[00:04] <paul_h1> TheMuso: any idea of the timescales we're talking about? I mean in terms of getting everything ready for binux to be proposed as an official variant of ubuntu and then using it to pilot changes that could then be incorporated into the main ubuntu cd?
[00:05] <TheMuso> paul_h1: It will never be an official variant of Ubuntu as such, its going to be a testing ground for Ubuntu accessibility. We will use the Ubuntu archive + a PPA to build disks.
[00:06] <dutchie> ping AlanBell and Pendulum re: persona
[00:09] <paul_h1> TheMuso: oh okay. so same question really. any idea as to when we can start doing this?  I do realise it's something you do when you've got time :) just wondering if you have any idea on roughly how long it's gonna take :)
[00:10] <TheMuso> paul_h1: No ETA, its done when its done.
[00:30] <Pendulum> dutchie: heya
[00:30] <dutchie> Pendulum: any news on them?
[00:31] <Pendulum> dutchie: I failed to get anything done :-/
[00:31] <dutchie> :(
[00:31] <dutchie> i did mine
[00:31] <Pendulum> I'm aiming for by the end of this week
[00:31] <Pendulum> and I think AlanBell did his
[00:32] <Pendulum> I've got 2 long carrides in the next 3 days so I'm going to try to work on them from the car and then stick them in the etherpad docs when I'm online
[00:32] <dutchie> cool#
[06:47] <AlanBell> Pendulum: no, I started it, but didn't get far
[06:48] <AlanBell> will be doing more work on it over the next week or so
[12:13] <AlanBell> 12:10 < gord> there is no accessibility stuff in unity for this release, it sucks, we know :( just didn't have anyone on staff to do it. we are hiring people to take  care of that for 11.04 i think though
[12:15] <Pendulum> missing in more than just Unity. I'm really not thrilled about the whole "can't use Orca to install Maverick" thing
[12:15] <Pendulum> :-/
[12:17] <AlanBell> yeah, but I don't know who to poke about that one!
[12:18] <Pendulum> no idea
[12:19] <Pendulum> I'm not even sure if there's been a bug filed on it yet
[12:19] <AlanBell> well I guess I should do another blog post comparing the Lucid install (which sucks) to the Maverick install (which is basically impossible)
[12:20] <Pendulum> go for it :-)
[12:20] <Pendulum> I suppose the good news is that it's better on the LTS?
[12:20] <AlanBell> kind of
[12:20] <Pendulum> s/better/not completely broken
[12:21] <AlanBell> guess it needs an accessible webkit
[12:22] <AlanBell> although I can see an argument for a whole separate installer for audio
[12:22] <AlanBell> must try vinux too
[12:29] <Pendulum> yeah
[12:31] <AlanBell> what I think would be nice is if you start the live CD without a monitor plugged in it just does an audio install
[12:31] <AlanBell> which would work well for the headless server in a rack scenario
[12:33] <Pendulum> yeah
[12:34] <Pendulum> okay, I'm out until probably Wednesday night or Thursday. I hope everyone has a good week!