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Lyon_Hey, is there any way to enable a mono sound output?00:39
sebsebsebLyon_: and if you don't get help here either, you may want to try ##linux00:41
craig__hi there. i'00:42
Lyon_alright00:42
craig__opps. i have an hp laptop (with strange keybd layout :D) and i'm trying to get the wifi to work. it seems to have a broadcom that is particularly troublesome...there's a lot about it on the net ... but all the instructions assume that i will get some identifying info about my hard ware from the lspci command.00:43
craig__...instead, i see no entry for wireless controllers of any sort!00:43
Lyon_<sauvin> Lyon_: You are not in ##linux. Please see the topic or visit us in ##linux-ops. The folks in #freenode may also be able to help. The ops in here are the only ones in this channel who can see what you say. This is an automated message; I am not necessarily awake.00:44
Lyon_so much for that00:44
craig__huh?00:44
sebsebsebLyon_: oh right00:45
sebsebsebLyon_: I guess your not registered on the network?00:45
Lyon_no00:45
sebsebsebLyon_: ok some channels you need to be registerd on the network first to be able to use, that being one of them00:45
craig__yeah no nick, just installed this stuff. sort of rushing through the steps.00:45
craig__if you mean me, that is.00:45
sebsebsebcraig__: nope I meant Lyon_00:46
craig__oh00:46
sebsebseb!register | Lyon_00:46
ubot2Lyon_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode00:46
sebsebsebLyon_: try your question again in #ubuntu,  I see someone there now, that  may be able to help you00:47
craig__anyway my question is: is there anything i can do to make ubuntu acknowledge my hardware? or does this mean that my hardware is maybe physically fried?00:49
sebsebseb!details | craig__00:50
ubot2craig__: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:50
craig__yes. i'm running lucid, but have done core updates today, so i think my core is more like 10.10. my laptop is an HP Pavillion dv9205us; I infer from HP's always hard-to-sift support site that my wireless chipset is Broadcom 4322. I have no wireless, and the computer seems in all ways unawares of the wireless hardware.00:53
aveilleuxthe HP dv series always has problems with Ubuntu...00:55
craig__i've found a few related threads and have attempted to pursue them. they usually start with using lspci to get my exact chipset model number. but when i run lspci, i don't see any at all.00:55
craig__aveilleux: works like a charm in every other way. litterally installed it while napping00:55
aveilleuxcraig__: I know, it's always one thing. My ex's dv6000 had an issue with the video chipset.00:56
craig__yep. did you get it sorted?00:56
aveilleuxcraig__: The video, yes.00:57
craig__good. i'll take that as a positive omen.00:58
craig__the ironic thing is that the reason i installed ubuntu now is that the wifi broke in vista. i figured it was easier to install ubuntu than to fix wireless drivers. now i'm wondering if maybe the hardware fried.01:00
sebsebseb!version | craig__01:03
ubot2craig__: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »01:03
aveilleuxThat's not what he wants, sebsebseb01:04
aveilleuxcraig__: If it doesn't work in two different OSs, then it's probably the hardware01:04
sebsebsebaveilleux:  yeah I guess not, but sounded like he had maybe upgraded to 10.1001:04
aveilleuxcraig__: Though to be fair, upgrading to ubuntu from Vista fixed my ex's DV drive :P01:09
aveilleuxDVD801:09
craig__well thanks for the trick aveilleux. so it's 10.04 yet. i know it's odd that the wifi was nix on two OSs, but i had figured it was fixable in vista, and since so many folks had problems with broadcom in ubuntu, well i figured it wasn't fried.01:10
craig__but now that i've tried many things and can't even see it.... starting to wonder.01:11
craig__any suggestions?01:11
aveilleuxcraig__: You can replace the wifi cards on most modern laptops.01:11
craig__replace? i figured it was on the motherboard, no?01:12
craig__i don't have any of the original paperwork for the computer, but maybe i can find a diagram on google. god knows that hp won't provide one.01:13
aveilleuxcraig__: There's probably a door on the bottom of the machine01:14
craig__yeah i can't mess with it just now, because that's the machine i'm using!01:16
craig__but i also don't want to order replacement parts for a computer that should IMO never have been purchased in the first place, on pure speculation that the thing's fried. also, i doubt i could replace it with a different wifi, could i???01:17
aveilleuxcraig__: Uh, almost all modern laptops I've seen can swap out the wireless cards. It's a standard slot.01:18
craig__i'm sure the slot is standard. if all cards were the same, however, ubuntu would probably have accepted mine.01:23
aveilleuxcraig__: The ccard is probably dead.01:23
craig__why do you think? is that what it means when lspci doesn't show it?01:24
aveilleuxcraig__: That, and the fact that it failed to work on both OSs01:26
craig__if i had known i would have fixed it in vista first.01:27
craig__just to generate more data01:27
craig__there's a lot of stuff like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/ that basically says this hardware is unusual in that (for IP reasons) i have to manually download and install the firmware before i can play drivers.01:30
craig__of course, i've tried to do that, and failed. my point is just that it's exceptional. yes, it could be fried. but my firmware installation could also be friend, and the hardware's fine.01:31
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harrisonkthis is an offtopic question: the site w3schools.com I find to be a good place to learn about html especialy the fact that you can find out what a <tag> does ie. <div> is there anything like that for python?03:44
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aveilleuxharrisonk_away: Yes04:15
aveilleuxkarrisonk_away: Whoops. Not the question you were asking. I believe there's a good Python reference on the project homepage04:15
brandon_1Just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 netbook edition, can I change the new unity interface back to the old one?06:13
brandon_1by old one I mean the unity interface that was used on 10.0406:14
stlsaintbrandon_1: sorry, im unfamiliar with UNR06:14
brandon_1yes me as well06:15
brandon_1I'm finding it extremely difficult to use06:15
stlsaintubuntu in general or just UNR?06:16
duanedesignhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159279606:17
duanedesignthere was a thread on the forums about that^06:17
brandon_1well specifically UNR and the newest unity interface06:17
duanedesignbrandon_1: when the login screen is displayed in the bottom bar, a menu will say ubuntu netbook edition - click on this and it will display the available sessions06:18
duanedesignnot sure if there is an option for what you want, but worth looking.06:19
brandon_1thanks for the forum link, from a quick glance that's what i'm looking for06:22
brandon_1in short I really dug the unity interface in the previous version, so much so I haven't touched my mac or windows in over a week.  However the new interface is way slow, difficult to use, and doesn't display webpages properly.06:24
brandon_1currently the only solution I've come up with is to use the normal desktop interface06:24
aoglobalentI am doing a new Ubuntu install. I want to partition my drives and am having an issue doing so. Can some one help me? I can not allow the partitioning to be done automatically, because a particular software I am trying to install on my ubuntu box requires a separate partition. So I need my primary Ubuntu Drive, a second partition, and a swap drive.....06:53
aoglobalent870I need help manually partitioning my hard drive on a Ubuntu 10 instal07:27
duanedesignwhat are you having trouble with aoglobalent870 ?08:18
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freezehey guys09:44
freezei need help09:44
hobgoblin!ask09:45
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:45
freezehow do i change permissions for a file i need to edit? at the top it shows read-only. im on ubuntu09:45
hobgoblinwhat file and where is it?09:49
freezeNetworkManager.state file it is located in /var/lib/NetworkManager09:50
hobgoblinok - you need to edit it as root - sudo nano /file/name will open a text editor as root - there are GUI options too - but I don't know what versionyou use - ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu etc09:53
hobgoblinctrl+x Y enter to save in nano09:54
hobgoblinif you want to backuo the file before you edit it sudo nano -B /file/name09:54
freezeI saved it10:00
freezebut somehow it does not apply? im on ubuntu netbook 10.1010:00
hobgoblinediting doesn't apply? No idea what you mean by that10:01
freezemy bad, it applies10:02
freezei'm gonna restart10:02
freezebrb10:02
freezebleargh10:04
freezewireless still doesn't work on my netbook..10:05
shahanmy .iso of ubuntu 10.10 desktop 32 bit is not loading.. I hve created a startup disk using ubuntu 10.04 toolkit12:16
shahanit shows "process 286() Glib warning getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user (0)" (there may have some spelling mistake)\12:17
shahanI have checkd the MD5SUM for several time :(12:18
shahan.12:25
duanedesignhello all12:31
Silver_Fox_Hello.15:03
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harrisonkhello15:14
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irvingI having trouble getting a full screen16:27
AbhiJitirving, if this is virtualbox issue then you can ask in #vbox16:28
irvingok I'll try there. i get virtual box  to fill the screen but  ubuntu is a smaller box in the virtual box window16:29
Silver_Fox_irving,  Have you installed guest addons ?16:30
irvingyes - i stalled guest additions and rebooted both virtual box and ubuntu. When i Ctrl-F i get a full screen with ubuntu in a small in the middle. i want to expand this to fill the screen16:32
shahanHello :)16:39
JoeMaverickSetthi! :)16:39
shahanI am having a great problem regarding Maverick16:42
shahanPlease check out there http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159316516:43
shahanthe100BiLL: Welcome :)16:43
hobgoblinif irving comes back and they are using maverick - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158888916:43
lebron228Help18:33
AbhiJitask18:34
lebron228tryin 2 download gapminder n can't figure it out18:34
lebron228brand spankin' new to ubuntu/linux18:34
lebron228downloaded adobe air18:35
aveilleuxlebron228: I'm assuming Flash works properly on the browser you're trying to use GapMinder on18:36
lebron228tryin' to get gapminder desktop18:36
lebron228believe it does_ firefox on edubuntu18:36
aveilleuxlebron228: Which version of Ubuntu are you on? 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)?18:36
lebron22810.04 _ couldn't figure how to download 10.10  :(18:37
lebron228glad I was able to figure this xchat out18:38
aveilleuxlebron228: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/10.10/release/ ?18:38
aveilleuxlebron228: In any case. Flash works in Firefox, right? Have you tested that?18:39
lebron228how would I test that? i mean I think it's used for Zynga Poker right?18:39
lebron228mafia wars on FB18:40
lebron228pretty sure it works18:40
aveilleuxlebron228: Here's a better test. http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/18:42
lebron228have a box on desktop 'gapminderdesktop.air' I double click thinking it will set it up but it doesn't18:43
lebron228k18:43
lebron228says I have latest version installed18:44
aveilleuxlebron228: Okay. So what happens when you click "Install" on the Download page?18:45
aveilleuxlebron228: Download page of GapMinder18:45
lebron228Installing application but then try again. so i tried to follow instructions on bottom of page18:45
aveilleuxlebron228: Let me get a test system up, give me a little bit18:46
lebron228sure thnx18:46
JoeMaverickSettlebron228: when it comes to "Installing Application" it also shows "Try Again" at the bottom?19:02
JoeMaverickSettis that what you mean?19:03
lebron228yes Joe..... looks like I missed u19:16
HesAlwaysNearUshello, got problem with Wired LAN internet connection. I adding everything manually, conections shows, that connected to Internet, but pages ar not loading - it shows that web loads, loads for few minuts, and then says, that cannot connect... sorry for my english. Any ideas?19:34
aveilleuxlebron228: Ahh, I get it. Open up Applications > Accessories > Adobe AIR Application Installer19:42
lebron228k19:42
lebron228askin 2 select installation package19:43
aveilleuxlebron228: Navigate to where you downloaded the application and open it19:43
lebron228the gapminder?19:43
aveilleuxlebron228: Yes19:44
lebron228EUREKA!19:45
lebron228thank u sooo much19:45
aveilleuxno problem19:45
lebron228i wouldn't know I had 2 do that19:45
lebron228is that typical?19:45
lebron228I'm trying to upgrade to Meerkat from Lynx. do I need to burn a dvd in order to do this?19:48
aveilleuxlebron228: No, you can just upgrade (once the upgrade script is available) from System > Administration > Update Manager19:49
lebron228so it's not available yet?19:50
aveilleuxNot that I'm aware of. I haven't been able to upgrade, anyway.19:50
lebron228k19:50
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Silver_Fox_Hello.20:34
meindian523eh oh20:41
nhandlerIf I have a wifi network with a WPA key that uses DHCP, is there a way to Netboot a device ?21:04
meindian523aveilleux, the upgrade script is available21:12
meindian523you probably have LTS releases only set in your upgrade cycle21:13
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raubvogelIn snmpd, should I configure my stuff in snmpd.local.conf and leave snmpd.conf untouched?21:53
kydan Hello all, im trying to do the automated update from 10.04 to 10.10 and its hanging on doing the install at 9 minutes remaining configuring openSSL. Anyone availble to help?22:07
stlsaintkydan: how long has it been stuck there?22:07
kydanthe last entry in the Terminal window for the upgrade says: Installing new version of the config file /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd22:08
kydanumm well I left for about 45 minutes when it said nine minutes left22:08
kydanand came back to my desk and its still working onstalling a config file22:08
kydanwhich...should be rather quick22:08
kydanon installing*22:08
kydanstlsaint: I wonder if it may have something to do with my hacked on version on Novell iPrint, as I did notice that my iPrint printer disappeared and it looks like its doing something with the cups daemon22:11
kydanstlsaint: but at this point I dont think its giong to be moving anywhere...whats the safest way to start the upgrade again?22:12
stlsaintreboot and start again22:19
stlsaintthebwt: W00t!!22:20
kydanstlsaint: well, that was my original idea, but I didnt want to be too rash!22:21
thebwtheya stlsaint22:22

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