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pittijdstrand: yep, kees ack'ed it, too; it's in now06:57
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apwskaet, i wonder if 'open the work-items database for the new release' should be on the release checklist somewhere, it can be done as soon as a driver actually makes the release in launchpad i believe10:08
apw(its done now in theory btw)10:08
skaetapw,   am working through the checklist now.    If its not there,  I'll add it.10:13
apwskaet, fun bedtime reading i am sure ... congrats btw on surviving the release :)10:14
* cjwatson is going round sorting out the seeds10:14
cjwatsonmvo: oh, I noticed a comment from you that the dist-upgrader-all directory was only in -proposed, not -updates - want me to fix that?10:14
* skaet is glad to see cjwatson, and has some questions....10:15
cjwatsoncongratulations on the release, seems to have gone smoothly :)10:15
skaetcjwatson,  smoother than the stories robbiew has been telling me for the last couple of months at any rate ;)10:15
mvocjwatson: a fix for this would be much appreciated, ideally so that on copy from -proposed to -update the dist-upgrader-all dir is copied as well10:15
wgrantBug #23137110:17
ubot4Launchpad bug 231371 in soyuz "support dist-upgrader pocket copy " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23137110:17
skaetcjwatson,  which tasks from the checklist have you handled already?10:17
cjwatsonmvo: unfortunately it has to be manual, but I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Special%20case:%20update-manager%20updates10:20
cjwatsons/updated/wrote/ actually10:20
cjwatsonmvo: or rather, it has to be manual unless Soyuz is enhanced ... anyway, you'll see it in -updates in an hour or so10:20
mvocjwatson: great, thanks cjwatson!10:21
cjwatsonskaet: none yet, I was just starting on creating the new seeds10:21
cjwatsonskaet: can you access https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+driver ?  might as well do step 1 :-)10:22
* cjwatson runs 'for x in *.maverick; do bzr branch $x ${x%.maverick}.natty; done' and starts pushing those up10:26
* skaet has changed driver for maverick to ubuntu-core-dev.10:28
jmlhello10:42
skaetcjwatson,  jml indicates that a Natty distroseries has been created with status FUTURE.   Should we move it to FROZEN?10:42
cjwatsonFUTURE?  wow.10:43
cjwatsonshiny new lp feature?10:43
cjwatsonhang on a sec, need to finish seeds first.10:43
jmlcjwatson: shiny new lack of buck10:43
jmlbug10:43
jmlI have no idea how I misspelled that10:44
cjwatsonI fixed its displayname10:45
wgrantjml: Did you need DB hacking to do that?10:45
wgrantI can't see it in the UI.10:45
jmlwgrant: no. there's an option to change the status10:45
jmlwgrant: perhaps it's a restricted view?10:45
cjwatsonnatty seeds created, germinate output running (we don't need to wait for that)10:47
cjwatsonseed mirrors created too, so that's steps 2 and 310:47
cjwatsonchecked maverick release pocket queue, it's empty (step 4)10:47
wgrantAh, there.10:47
cjwatsonI assume we still ought to disable the publisher during distroseries initialisation?10:48
wgrantUh, yes.10:48
wgrantOr boom.10:48
jml:(10:48
jmlwgrant: is there a bug filed for that?10:48
wgrantHm, it's possibly OK if we do a careful run afterwards like the instructions say. But it's not tested TTBMK.10:49
cjwatsonpublisher disabled10:49
cjwatsonjml: yes, please move natty to FROZEN10:49
wgrantThe publisher, i-d-s and transactions have an interesting relationship :/10:49
skaet:)10:49
cjwatsonis it correct for both lucid and maverick to be CURRENT?10:50
cjwatsonIIRC before we've had the LTS be SUPPORTED.10:50
jmlcjwatson: need a losa to do that, I think.10:50
wgrantNeeds a LOSA, and yes Lucid should be supported.10:50
cjwatsonskaet: ok, you wanna chase a LOSA to change lucid -> SUPPORTED and natty -> FROZEN?10:50
cjwatsonI've created an ubuntu-11.04 milestone.  will go round and create the other milestones since I might as well10:51
skaetcjwatson,  jml's volunteered.10:51
skaetcjwatson, re: other milestones, sounds good.10:52
cjwatsonall milestones created11:09
cjwatsonhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+milestones11:09
skaet\o/11:09
cjwatsonhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+series indicates that the statuses are fixed11:09
cjwatsonoh, of course, germinate output won't work until the publisher has run, silly me11:10
cjwatsonmore-extra symlinks created (step 9)11:11
cjwatsonwgrant,jml: in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess step 10 and 12, do both of those need to be LPCONFIG=ftpmaster-publish now?  I know that step 12 does, but not sure about i-f-p11:12
skaetstep 8 is verified, btw.11:12
wgrantcjwatson: i-f-p shouldn't care.11:13
wgrantcjwatson: It's all DB work.11:13
cjwatsondoes it need an LPCONFIG environment variable at all, then?11:13
wgrantIt needs to run as a specific DB user.11:13
wgrantHm.11:13
wgrantBut that may be in the script.11:13
* wgrant checks.11:13
wgrantSomeone needs to check the configs (the key is archivepublisher/dbuser)11:14
wgrantThey're probably the same.11:14
cjwatsonany guess on filename?11:14
wgrantNot sure where the production configs live on prod, sorry.11:14
* cjwatson guesses at production-configs/ :-)11:14
wgrantAh.11:15
wgrantftpmaster/launchpad-lazr.conf in there, then.11:15
cjwatsonno dbuser there11:15
wgrantInheritance yay.11:15
cjwatsonnor in ftpmaster-publish/11:15
wgrantSo they're the same.11:15
cjwatsondoes meta/extends define the inheritance?11:16
wgrantYes.11:16
cjwatsonah, in fact ftpmaster-publish/launchpad-lazr.conf is really simple11:16
wgrantJust changing dirs?11:16
cjwatsonall it does is set error_reports/oops_prefix to FTPMASTERPUBLISH and error_reports/error_dir to /srv/launchpad.net/production-logs/lp_publish - otherwise it just extends ftpmaster11:17
wgrantDoesn't matter, then.11:17
cjwatsonand some log file fiddling in the non-lazr stuff11:17
cjwatsonok11:17
* cjwatson fixes the publisher steps in the process, where it does matter11:17
jmlit's going to be a few hours before we'll be ready to run the branch-distro script11:17
jml(step 11)11:18
cjwatsonjml: ok, but you guys consider yourselves notified?11:18
jmlcjwatson: indeed we do.11:18
cjwatsonpreparing to run i-f-p11:18
wgrantThe subsequent careful publisher could be amusing.11:19
wgrantBut we'll see.11:19
cjwatsonwill use '-a amd64,armel,i386,powerpc' (per the note in the process page, which comes from StevenK)11:19
cjwatsonamusing?11:19
ograskaet, hmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseManifest talks about the ARM releases living on releases.u.c (i'm not sure we want to move them, but the manifest page should be in sync)11:21
* ogra just noticed that now :(11:21
skaetogra, no worries.   let me look11:21
wgrantcjwatson: Amusing in that it might fail, due to some stuff that was done a couple of weeks ago. But it should be OK.11:22
cjwatsonogra: I explicitly checked with davidm and he said cdimage not releases11:22
ogracjwatson, perfect11:22
wgrantThe -a might be unnecessary now, but won't hurt.11:22
cjwatsonogra: where does that page talk about ARM living on releases.u.c?11:22
ogra(i personally dont like them on r.u.c because the download page gets confusingly full)11:22
cjwatsoni-f-p running11:22
cjwatson2010-10-11 10:23:02 ERROR   Parent series has pending builds.11:23
wgrantCrap.11:23
ograugh, i should have more coffee ...11:23
wgrantIndeed.11:23
persiacjwatson, Maybe just historical, but they did live on r.u.c for karmic/lucid.11:23
wgrantThree pending armel builds.11:23
ogracjwatson, skaet sorry for the noise ... a discussion in another channel got me confused11:23
skaetcjwatson, thankds for clarifying.11:23
wgrantInvestigating.11:23
cjwatsonhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending&arch_tag=all11:23
ograindeed its exactly the opposite of what i said. all is fine11:24
wgrantcjwatson: Their DB state is corrupt.11:24
wgrantcjwatson: There are pending, but not queued.11:24
wgrantWe'll need DB surgery to set them to some other state (probably Superseded).11:25
cjwatsonI'll go find a LOSA11:25
cjwatsonpersia: indeed.  moving them was an explicit decision, I'm told11:26
persiaAh, OK.  If it's intentional, it's good :)11:27
cjwatsonwgrant: mthaddon asked if he could have some SQL11:29
wgrantcjwatson: They should have some already, I would have thought.11:29
wgrantBut otherwise:11:29
wgranthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/510797/11:33
* cjwatson isn't seeing anything relevant on the internal LPHowTo page11:34
cjwatsonbut then, not a LOSA11:34
cjwatsonoh wait, there it is, it's on https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/IS/BuilddFixing11:35
wgrantYeah, I can't exactly browse the internal wiki yet.11:36
cjwatsonish11:36
cjwatsonwell, quite11:36
cjwatsonbut for mthaddon's benefit11:36
wgrantDoes that also specify deleting BuildQueues and BuildPackageJobs?11:36
cjwatsonyes11:36
cjwatsonand Job11:36
wgrantI don't think they exist in this case.11:36
wgrantRight, forgot that one.11:36
cjwatsonright - the context here is forcibly removing a build that kills buildds11:37
wgrantYeah.11:37
cjwatsonrerunning i-f-p, thanks mthaddon11:48
mthaddonnp11:49
cjwatson2010-10-11 10:48:54 ERROR   Parent series queues are not empty.11:49
cjwatsongar11:49
cjwatsondoes this really require non-RELEASE queues to be empty?11:49
wgrantIt shouldn't.11:50
cjwatsonshouldn't, looking at the code11:50
wgrantI glanced over the code last night.11:50
wgrantAnd it looked sane.11:50
cjwatsonoh, wait, NEW is non-empty11:50
cjwatsonhah, this is a bug11:50
wgrantOh?11:50
wgrantAh.11:51
wgrantpartner.11:51
wgrantIndeed.11:51
cjwatsonpartner is non-inherited, but i-f-p refuses if it has queue entries11:51
cjwatsonI guess I can just process these and then wait ...11:51
* cjwatson files a bug in the meantime11:52
wgrantOr maybe convince someone to cowboy the extra arg into i-f-p.11:52
cjwatsonit's probably faster to process NEW ...11:52
wgrantUnfortunately true.11:52
wgrantAnd then wait for the publisher.11:52
wgrantOh.11:52
wgrantBut they're sources, so no publisher required.11:52
wgrantIf you're quick.11:53
jmlfwiw, I reckon it'd be a good idea to have some common tag for bugs associated with doing the NewReleaseCycleProcess11:53
cjwatsonbug 658256, if you want to give it one11:53
ubot4Launchpad bug 658256 in soyuz "initialise-from-parent refuses if there are NEW queue entries for partner (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65825611:53
cjwatsonwgrant: not entirely sure I want to play that kind of game :)11:54
jmlcjwatson: thanks11:54
wgrantcjwatson: Well, i-f-p will work fine if you run it between accepting those sources and the builds finishing.11:54
cjwatsonhm, I guess it will11:54
jmlwgrant: did you say there was a bug for need to disable the publisher during distroseries initialisation?11:55
cjwatsonin that case, I should do a coffee resupply *first*.11:55
wgrantjml: I don't think there is. In the context of the whole process (with the extra careful runs later on) it will probably work fine, but it needs testing.11:55
cjwatsonwe'd have to disable the cron job for the manual careful runs anyway11:55
cjwatsonso the fact that the careful runs is needed is a bug, if you want to look at it that way11:56
cjwatson(i.e. should be possible to initialise new series without fiddling with publisher setup)11:56
cjwatsons/runs is/runs are/ what happened there ...11:56
wgrantWe want to make dirty pockets forcable for other reasons anyway, which would eliminate the need for the careful runs.11:58
cjwatsonindeed.11:58
cjwatsonpartner packages accepted, i-f-p running.  third time's the charm12:05
cjwatsonwgrant,jml: bug 55211 is essentially this, BTW.12:07
ubot4Launchpad bug 55211 in soyuz "shouldn't require careful publisher run when cloning new released distrorelease (heat: 4)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5521112:08
jmlcjwatson: ta. I'll mark https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/658269 as a dupe of that then.12:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 658269 in soyuz "Initializing new series requires fiddling with publisher setup (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]12:09
elmobtw, when you guys get bored with natty, don't forget antimony is down to 5Gb on /srv12:11
jpdsCan we remove jaunty from releases/ yet?12:12
wgrantIt doesn't die for nearly three weeks, does it?12:13
jpdsDamn.12:13
wgrantAh, no, 12 days.12:14
cjwatsonantimony can be sorted by a mass purge of daily builds, I imagine12:14
cjwatsonelmo: also you could do an archive pass on /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/old-images/, if skaet didn't already ask for it12:15
cjwatson63G there12:15
elmocjwatson: ok - I'll RT that - who should be notified when that's done, you + skaet?12:15
cjwatsonplease12:15
cjwatsoninitial publish-distro run in progress for natty12:16
wgrantcjwatson: i-f-p still happy?12:16
wgrantHah.12:16
cjwatsonyep, i-f-p completed12:16
cjwatsonoddly quiet by comparison with the VERY NOISY rest of LP scripts12:16
cjwatson(i.e. no output on successful completion)12:17
cjwatsonjml: hm, though I notice that I said in 55211 that this wouldn't be a problem for normal non-released distroseries12:17
cjwatsonevidently I was confused12:17
wgrantWell, i-f-p is brand new.12:18
cjwatsonor else it doesn't actually require the careful run and we've just been overparanoid for years ...12:18
wgrantAnd less special than the publisher.12:18
cjwatsonwgrant: *blink*12:18
wgrantHm?12:18
cjwatsoni-f-p dates back to 200612:19
wgrantIt was largely rewritten a month or two ago.12:19
cjwatsonah, well, even so, it was always quiet12:19
wgrantAh.12:19
cjwatsonnot that I'm complaining12:19
wgrantThe careful publisher is necessary to get -proposed, -updates, -security, -backports indices.12:19
* cjwatson notes that in the bug12:21
wgrant(If not careful, it'll only publish indices for dirty pockets. And we don't copy non-RELEASE, so they'll be empty and clean.)12:24
wgrantHas it made it into the domination phase yet?12:26
wgrantI guess that should be quick.12:27
cjwatsonit's done12:34
wgrantYay.12:34
cjwatsonabout four minutes from init to get into domination phase.  when you asked it was in a-f.12:35
cjwatsonjust doing other checks before publishing partner12:35
wgrantHm, longer than I would have hoped.12:37
cjwatsoncan send you the log if you want12:37
wgrantNah.12:37
wgrantIf it worked, should be fine.12:37
cjwatsonactually, I think I misrea.12:37
cjwatson+d12:38
wgrantThere should have been nothing empty, so the publishing phase (A) should have been a no-op.12:38
cjwatson21 seconds to get to start of domination phase; domination took a bit under four minutes12:38
wgrantRight.12:38
wgrantThat's about what I would have expected.12:38
wgrantDomination should take < 20s, but that's a known issue.12:39
cjwatsonpackages were correctly not copied to partner; deleting that NRCP step12:39
wgrantExcellent.12:39
cjwatsonpublishing partner12:49
cjwatsonpackage sets were automatically copied over - thanks StevenK (IIRC), deleting that NRCP step12:50
jmlwgrant: a known issue you say? does it have a bug?12:50
cjwatsonI like this business of processes getting shorter12:51
wgrantjml: Bug 65437212:51
ubot4Launchpad bug 654372 in soyuz "Source domination is inefficient (affects: 1) (heat: 19)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65437212:51
jmlcjwatson: :)12:51
wgrantFix is easy, but I want to see if I can clean it up first.12:51
wgrantSince temp tables make me sad.12:51
jmlwgrant: I agree with everything you just said.12:52
cjwatsonpublisher re-enabled12:52
cjwatsonwaiting for the first automatic run now12:52
wgrantA couple of minutes past the hour, still?12:53
cjwatson:0312:54
cjwatsonlamont: can has new buildd chroots?12:57
cjwatson(for natty)12:57
cjwatsonlamont: oh, you'll need to wait for the first publisher run to happen, I guess12:57
wgrantIs there a reason we don't just copy the maverick ones across?12:57
lamontcjwatson: I have maverick release tarballs that claim to be natty12:58
cjwatsonwgrant: they have sources.list entries, don't they?12:58
cjwatsonlamont: that works12:58
lamontcjwatson: launchpad overwrites sources.list12:58
wgrantcjwatson: They've been overridden since PPAs were introduced.12:58
cjwatsoncopying is fine then12:58
* cjwatson updates the process12:59
* lamont tosses tarballs nattywards12:59
* lamont looks forward to his 5 day weekend12:59
cjwatsonskaet: current status: steps 1-15 and 17 done (reload the process page if you haven't recently, since I deleted a couple of steps)13:00
lamontcjwatson: once the flood gates are open for a bit (like say next monday), I'll roll newer, shinier, less stale tarballs13:00
lamontnatty done, tossing final-bits maverick tarballs in as well13:01
skaetcjwatson, ack, will reload.13:01
cjwatsondoko: if you'd like to go ahead and upload new toolchain bits, they should at least not bounce now13:01
wgrantNRCP does say to wait until the first normal run finishes. But that shouldn't matter for internal stuff.13:02
skaetcjwatson,  have done first pass of the page updates UbuntuDevelopment, ReleaseSchedule, ArchiveAdmin.13:03
skaetalso sent note off to rosetta13:03
cjwatsonwgrant: it does, but for the upload queue I don't believe it matters13:03
cjwatsonNRCP doesn't express parallelisable things very well13:03
wgrantcjwatson: Ah, for the queue, no.13:04
wgrantBut even builds should work as soon as the chroots and careful publisher are done.13:04
skaetcjwatson,  18,28 in new page done.13:04
cjwatson'k13:04
cjwatsonqueuebot should be looking at natty now13:05
lamontcjwatson: as long as you're tweaking, you could add a similar bullet to upload fresh tarballs for the just-released suite as well (makes ppa/whatnot builds slightly faster via smaller dist-upgrades)13:05
* skaet breaking for lunch and to run an errand.13:05
cjwatsonlamont: done13:06
wgrantErm.13:06
cjwatsonlack of previous version is because rmadison isn't up to date yet13:07
wgrantAh, of course.13:07
cjwatsonthat'll sort itself out in a few hours13:07
cjwatsonand the "New" bit there just means new in the queue13:07
cjwatson(as opposed to "Updated" which is "there was already a package in the queue, but now there's a newer version as well")13:07
wgrantRight.13:08
wgrantPackage set memberships seem to have been correctly copied as well. This is good.13:09
cjwatsonyep13:12
cjwatsonupdated archive reports to point to natty (step 19)13:42
wgrantEr.13:48
wgranta.u.c has directories.13:48
wgrantBut no indices.13:48
wgrantAh, there now.13:48
pittithe official excuse is of course "just in case you need a package to check if the queues are working"13:50
wgrantcjwatson: You might want to add a note that i-d-s -a probably won't be necessary in future, since it skips disabled archs.13:55
cjwatsonoh, I'll just delete that bit in the process then, thanks13:58
cjwatson(YM i-f-p)13:59
wgrantEr, yes, the method is iDS, but the script is still i-f-p.13:59
cjwatsonmerge-o-matic updated (step 20)14:00
dokocjwatson: gcc-defaults and binutils waiting for approval14:01
cjwatsonany ordering constraints?14:01
cjwatsonwgrant: are you sure it skips them?  I don't see that in InitialiseDistroSeries._copy_architectures14:04
wgrantcjwatson: That bit wasn't CP'd, it seems.14:04
wgrantIt's definitely in db-devel.14:04
wgrantSo it will be there next time.14:05
wgrantBug #64971714:05
cjwatsonok, I was looking in devel, didn't know it was behind db-devel14:05
ubot4Launchpad bug 649717 in soyuz "InitialiseDistroSeries should not copy disabled DASes (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64971714:05
wgrantConfusingly, production and db-devel have DistroArchSeries.enabled, but devel doesn't.14:06
wgrantSince it was a late patch at the end of last cycle.14:06
cjwatsonok, process edited14:07
cjwatsondoko: sorry, not sure you saw that was directed at you - does it matter if gcc-defaults and binutils build in paralle?14:08
cjwatsonparallel14:08
wgrantI'm not sure how it wasn't CPd, though. It was in production-stable before my thing to not publish disabled indices was CPd :(14:09
dokocjwatson: no14:12
dokocjwatson: sorry, distracted with the ac100 ...14:13
cjwatsonok, accepted, thanks14:27
cjwatsondoko: anything else after binutils, gcc-defaults, and the eglibc copy?15:34
dokocjwatson: you'll get gcc-4.4, gcj-4.4 and gnat-4.4 in a few minutes. for 4.5, I'll have to merge tomorrow's linaro release first.15:35
dokoit should be ok to continue with the toolchainish bits15:35
cjwatsonok.  I didn't understand your last sentence though?15:35
dokodebhelper, perl, cdbs, dpkg, etc15:36
dokoautoconf/automake15:36
cjwatsonoh, right15:37
cjwatsondoko: does gcc-4.4 need to wait for armel to finish with binutils?15:44
dokocjwatson: no15:45
cjwatsonok, accepted15:45
dokocjwatson: preparing base-files. should issue mention 11.04, or something else?15:45
cjwatsonI already uploaded base-files15:46
cjwatson("Ubuntu natty (development branch)" is the standard form)15:46
dokoahh, ok15:46
cjwatsonif you want to review/accept it from the queue, that would be good15:47
cjwatsonnot that the different-reviewer protocol really matters at this point, the freeze is just for ordering purposes15:47
* cjwatson starts on dpkg15:47
* skaet back from picking up her Toshiba AC100 :D, and wondering what still needs doing?16:22
skaetcjwatson, which tasks are left?16:23
Riddellrelease natty :)16:24
skaetlol16:24
Riddellquickly, before we add any bugs16:24
skaetRiddell, in about 6 months .....16:24
skaetand there's a few bugs there today (or so maverick's release notes indicate ;) )16:26
cjwatsonskaet: we're in the middle of step 21, which is mostly on doko16:28
skaetcjwatson,  anything I can do to help with the reports?16:29
cjwatsonwhich reports?16:31
cjwatsonjml: any progress on the branch creation?16:35
jmlcjwatson: slow progress.16:35
jmlcjwatson: in 45 mins I'll be in a position to ask for a cherry pick, once the cherry pick is done, I'll be in a position to create the branches.16:36
cjwatsonwill anything break if I push stuff to lp:ubuntu/natty/SOURCEPACKAGE in the meantime, for things I'm working on?16:37
jmlcjwatson: I don't know. Give me a moment in which to educate myself enough to guess.16:39
jmlcjwatson: probably not.16:42
cjwatsonhm, I bet the short name (ubuntu/natty/SOURCEPACKAGE) as opposed to the long name (~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/SOURCEPACKAGE/natty) doesn't exist yet, though?16:50
skaetcjwatson,  ..."modify various reports (britny, anastacia, jessica) to point to new distroseries17:03
cjwatsonoh that's done17:04
cjwatson(and reload the process page, since I updated the names ...)17:04
cjwatsonthere's a lot of stuff that's basically really quick s/maverick/natty/g in a bunch of places; those ones require cocoplum access17:05
cjwatsondone step 26 (the cdimage stuff) - a lot of the later steps are parallelisable17:09
cjwatsonmerges.ubuntu.com seems to be working broadly as expected - I think17:10
skaethmm,  I can't seem to access cocoplum,  should I have access?17:10
skaetor do I need to wait to qualify for some group for that?17:10
cjwatsonno, but we should get you that RSN17:10
skaetI've done 28 already earlier.17:11
cjwatsonRT sent to get you archive access17:12
skaetthanks...  editing through the ArchiveAdministration page helped explain some of the things I had questions about. ;)17:14
cjwatsonright, that doubles as the page every new archive admin gets to read as part of training17:15
cjwatson... and traditionally, also edit to fix any inadequacies :)17:15
skaetheh,  when I have access, will do the (now standard) read, review and clarify the ambiguities ;)17:23
cjwatsonubiquity intro message restored for next upload (step 30)17:30
skaet\o/17:31
skaetI'll start working through the bugs that needed to be release noted then, and get them targeted to Natty.   Should I am to milestone them for Alpha 1, so we don't loose focus?17:31
skaetor just release target them, and let teams set milestones?17:32
skaetcjwatson,   all is good with the scripts to start generating natty_probs.html and natty_outdate.html?17:37
* skaet needs to change locations. Back on line after dinner. 17:42
cjwatsonskaet: yep, those scripts are running17:45
cjwatsonhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html17:45
cjwatsonskaet: release-noted bugs> I think some discretion is probably called for depending on the nature of the bugs ...17:46
cjwatsonfor nasty ones, alpha-1 seems a good idea17:46
skaetcjwatson,  fair 'nuf.   I was planning on reading each anyhow, so will be selective with the alpha-1 milestoning.17:48
cjwatsonrelease-targeting is definitely right either way17:49

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