[00:00] <mkarnicki> csgeek: it's kinda low level, though.
[00:00] <mkarnicki> csgeek: using java version was (and is) quite a challenge.
[02:20] <lazyPower> honk
[02:20] <lazyPower> Fresh install of 10.10, i just added my Ubuntu 1 account, and after the wizard is run, my account info doesnt show up in the window. Nor can I "connect" my machine to my account. Any ideas?
[02:22] <nimbus> what happens when you open ubuntu one?
[02:22] <lazyPower> says Unknown, Disconnected. And the fields are all listed unknown.
[02:22] <lazyPower> i've killed and restarted the sync daemon, removed and re-added via the paswords dialogue as well. nothing seems to be jump-starting the app not receiving my info.
[02:23] <nimbus> try deleting the ubuntu one entry from system?pref>passwords
[02:23] <lazyPower> Shall i restart the sync daemon after having done that?
[02:23] <nimbus> no need
[02:24] <lazyPower> still no love
[02:27] <nimbus> restart u1. you should get prompted for a password
[02:28] <lazyPower> Already done that, no joy.
[02:29] <nimbus> no password prompt?
[02:30] <nimbus> what I had to do was purge couchdb* but I am not sure if that is the wisest thing to do.
[02:30] <nimbus> I haven't had any ill effects from doing that.
[02:30] <lazyPower> hmmm :/
[02:30] <lazyPower> I wonder if thats whats causing the Gwibber Facebook issue too
[02:31] <nimbus> it is linked to that problem
[02:31] <lazyPower> I'm unsure why this would be apparent on a fresh install though.
[02:31] <lazyPower> The CouchDB was empty at first boot... *shrug*
[02:33] <nimbus> sudo apt-get purge couchdb* if you plan to try that
[04:59] <lazyPower> nimbus, you're awesome. Purging the couchdb fixed U1, and gwibber as well.
[04:59] <nimbus> Glad it worked for you!
[05:00] <lazyPower> The who has been answered, now i want to know why.
[05:01] <nimbus> I am not sure what couchdb* does in 10.10
[05:01] <nimbus> It might still be used in Evolution
[05:01] <lazyPower> i know its in evo, that was one of the packages removed.
[05:02] <lazyPower> it archives the information for u1
[05:02] <lazyPower> i cant sync my bookmarks, contacts, or broadcast messages without couchdb
[05:02] <nimbus> so maybe it would be a good idea to reinstall couchdb at a later time when this gets ironed out
[05:05] <lazyPower> indeed
[05:05] <lazyPower> at any rate, thanks for the help mate.
[05:05] <nimbus> no problem
[05:06] <nimbus> gedit ~/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.stdout could also log some of the couchdb errors
[05:07] <nimbus> but I am sure mine is gone.
[05:18] <duanedesign> hello nimbus  lazyPower
[05:20] <nimbus> hello duanedesign
[05:20] <duanedesign> lazyPower: after purging couch did your information start to show up in the Ubuntu One Preferences panel?
[05:20] <lazyPower> yep
[05:20] <nimbus> mine too
[05:21] <lazyPower> duanedesign, having the same issue?
[05:27] <duanedesign> lazyPower: no. just being seeing a few users with this issue and loking for reasons why it might be happening
[05:28] <lazyPower> My thoughts are whatever data pipe there is into couchdb from the web-auth, its not passing that token.
[05:28] <lazyPower> the only environment variable i changed right off the flip is i installed chromium and set it to default browser.
[07:07] <mahen> hi
[07:07] <nimbus> hi
[07:51] <topyli> i have an old ubuntuone account and the web interface shows me a few old folders worth 300MB or so. how do i get rid of them?
[07:52] <topyli> the web interface won't let me delete them (or delete the entire account)
[07:54] <duanedesign> hello topyli
[07:54] <topyli> duanedesign: hi
[07:55] <duanedesign> topyli: is your computer still added to that account?
[07:56] <topyli> nope, i have a fresh install of maverick. i wasn't using ubuntuone during the last months of lucid. afaik i have removed all configuration from my computer
[07:56] <topyli> (old home dir, i hope there aren't any leftovers lurking somewhere)
[07:57] <topyli> the folders in question are user-defined (outside ~/Ubuntu One). u1sdtool --list doesn't list them
[07:57] <topyli> --list-folders even
[07:59] <duanedesign> topyli: yeah if your ocmputers no longer connected to that account it likely will not
[07:59] <duanedesign> topyli: i would open Ubuntu One Preferences, add your computer, then use u1sdtool --delete-folder
[08:00] <topyli> i do have folders that correspond to the folders on u1, i wouldn't want u1 to replace them :)
[08:00] <duanedesign> right
[08:01] <topyli> like replacing ~/Documents with a 6 month old copy :)
[08:01] <topyli> let me backup and try
[08:06] <topyli> ok i think it's deleting it
[08:15] <duanedesign> you can use the command:  tail -fn 50 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[08:16] <duanedesign> to watch the log
[08:33] <topyli> thanks duanedesign, this works!
[08:34] <duanedesign> topyli: ok great
[09:13] <ojii> good morning everyone
[09:13] <ojii> is the 'shuffle play' in u1 music app for android to just play all my songs in random order? because I always get 'empty playlist'
[09:17] <duanedesign> morning ojii
[09:18] <ojii> good morning duanedesign
[09:18] <ojii> how was your ten ten ten?
[09:19] <duanedesign> ojii: good good. a little busy, but that is good
[09:20] <duanedesign> i am afraid i have been neglecting becoming aquainted with the mobile music service
[09:20] <ojii> o.O
[09:21] <duanedesign> i need to get that set up today :)
[09:21] <ojii> indeed you do
[09:21] <ojii> although it might only be useful for "small" music libraries
[10:22] <duanedesign> ojii: still around?
[10:22] <ojii> duanedesign, yes
[10:23] <duanedesign> ojii what address did you use when setting up your mobile app?
[10:23] <ojii> ?
[10:23] <duanedesign> might be different since i am on iphone
[10:23] <ojii> what do you mean with address?
[10:24] <duanedesign> to set up the mobile app to use. When you launch it for the first time it (at least the iphone app) asks for the address to get music from username and password
[10:27] <ojii> it only asked me for username password
[10:45] <duaneipho> beuno you around yet?
[10:45] <kklimonda> good morning
[10:46] <duaneipho> good morning kklimonda
[10:48] <duaneipho> don't suppose you have set up streaming mobile on iPhone?
[10:49] <kklimonda> nope, not an iPhone user :)
[10:50] <ojii> :D
[10:50] <duaneipho> heh,wish I could say the same
[10:52] <duaneipho> kklimonda you are going to uds?
[10:52] <duaneipho> thought I saw your name...
[10:53] <kklimonda> duaneipho: yes
[10:53] <duaneipho> nice. I am looking forward to it
[10:55] <kklimonda> indeed, so do I - I've gotten my visa so now all I need is a new suitcase ;)
[11:40] <duanedesign> rye: hello
[11:40] <rye> duanedesign, hi!
[11:42] <duanedesign> rye: could couchdb have anything to do with the mysterious Preferences issue?
[11:43] <rye> duanedesign, hm, let me check that
[12:03] <rye> duanedesign, you are 100% right
[12:03] <rye> desktop+ people, ubuntuone-preferences breaks if couchdb does not contain pairing record for ubuntuone!
[12:05] <diverse_izzue> hi all. i have U1 sync a number of subfolders dir/a dir/b dir/c, and would like to have it sync all of dir instead. how do i best change the config?
[12:09] <duanedesign> rye: aha
[12:10] <duanedesign> rye: i was thinking it was possible based on the input from users on the forum and on irc.
[12:11] <rye> duanedesign, updated bug #657850 and you know what the irony is... If you run ubuntuone-indicator while ubuntuone-preferences is open it fixes everything
[12:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657850 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu One Preferences applet doesn't display info properly (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657850
[12:11] <duanedesign> hehello diverse_izzue
[12:11] <diverse_izzue> hi duanedesign
[12:12] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: so you wish to sync dir/
[12:13] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: and currently you have dir/a, dir/b, dir/c syncing
[12:13] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, yes. so basically my question is, do i disable all the subdirectories first, and then enable dir, or the other way around. also, is there any risk that U1 gets confused?
[12:20] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue:  i am trying this locally to see how U1 reacts
[12:20] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, thanks!
[12:24] <rye> duanedesign, creating a quick workaround with dbus-send to fight that preferences bug
[12:28] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: ok
[12:29] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: it wouldnt let me sync the folder until i right-clicked on the sub folders and selected Ubuntu One > Stop Syncronizing This Folder
[12:29] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, good, so it protects itself from confusion :-)
[12:30] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: after i unsynced the folders i used the command:  u1sdtool --list-folders
[12:30] <diverse_izzue> does it then delete the synced data immediately on the server?
[12:30] <duanedesign> to insure it removed the folders from sync list
[12:31] <duanedesign> diverse_izzue: looks like it did. it removed the two subdirectories and now i only see the dir/ folder
[12:31] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, so in summary, nothing can go wrong :-)
[12:32] <duanedesign> heh, hopefully not
[12:32] <duanedesign> ;)
[12:32] <diverse_izzue> duanedesign, thank you! will try. but first have to purchase the 20 gb pack :-)
[12:33] <duanedesign> rye: trying to set up the mobile music app (isub) on my iphone. It requires a server address, do you know what that might be?
[12:35] <kklimonda> duanedesign: I've been using https://streaming.one.ubuntu.com/ to get raw responses from music server, maybe it's the same?
[12:36]  * duanedesign is checking
[12:42] <duanedesign> kklimonda: i think that might be it. Now it is complaining about my username and password instead of address :P
[12:43] <kklimonda> duanedesign: those are the same you use for your contact syncing
[12:43] <kklimonda> the mysterious sequence of numbers ;)
[12:53] <duanedesign> thank you kklimonda that did the trick
[15:58] <Krizz> anyone here?
[16:00] <rye> Krizz, yes, hello!
[16:01] <Krizz> can you help?
[16:01] <Krizz> ubuntu one doesn't show my storage % and I cant sync
[16:03] <Krizz> and my name, mail and level is unknown
[16:06] <Krizz> i take the silence as you can't help
[16:06] <rye> Krizz, bug #657850
[16:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657850 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu One Preferences applet doesn't display info properly (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657850
[16:07] <rye> Krizz, i surely can help!
[16:07] <rye> Krizz, please open the preferences application if it is not running (i suspect you are running Maverick Meerkat, right?)
[16:07] <rye> Krizz, and run the string from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/657850/comments/4
[16:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657850 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu One Preferences applet doesn't display info properly (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed]
[16:39] <karni> beuno: ping
[16:44] <beuno> karni, hi
[17:18] <duanedesign> rye: your indicator can just be added to startup applications?
[17:18] <rye> duanedesign, please wait for 10 minutes and i will answer "yes" :)
[17:18] <rye> duanedesign, uploading 0.0.4
[17:20] <duanedesign> was just answering all the u1 forum posts. Like to be thorough and give people multiple options when they 'want more info' about whats going on. Between u1sdtool, magicada, and the indicator they now have plenty of coices :)
[17:24] <duanedesign> choices*
[17:27] <rye> duanedesign, I am not adding the autostart .desktop file yet since I need to test it thoroughly, for some reason indicato nom-noms 30Mb of RAM when idle, which I think is unacceptable
[17:28] <duanedesign> ok
[17:29] <kklimonda> rye: isn't it normal for applications written in python? :)
[17:29] <duanedesign> rye: been working on a UI for viewing my irssi logs in CouchDB :)
[17:29] <rye> duanedesign, 0.0.4 is in Maverick and soon to be available in Lucid
[17:30] <duanedesign> rye: allright. I might just make a forum sticky on 'how to get more info from U1'
[17:30] <rye> kklimonda, well, python itself takes 4Mb, when all the imports are don it does +26Mb
[17:30] <olewolf> Hi. I hope someone can help me out: I'm trying desperately to get Ubuntu One to run on my Kubuntu machine. Harald Sitter's attempt doesn't appear to work at all, and the instructions at the bottom of "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#Does Ubuntu One support KDE?" doesn't even register my machine with one.kubuntu.org. I don't need a fancy tray icon, graphical status updates or anything; I just need the synchronization. Anyone?
[17:30] <rye> olewolf, what release are you running?
[17:30] <rye> hm... kubuntu
[17:30] <olewolf> rye: 10.10.
[17:31] <olewolf> rye: I tried with lucid as well, but was hoping ubuntuone-kde might work. Alas...
[17:32] <olewolf> (I realize the bottom entry of the FAQ is somewhat wrong, because the "u1sdtool -c" part is actually a command, not something that needs installation via apt-get.
[17:33] <olewolf> Still, installing the entire Ubuntu One client for Gnome doesn't appear to do anything except start the sync daemon in the background but not updating anything. (For good reason, since my computer isn't added.)
[17:34] <rye> olewolf, what does ubuntuone-preferences say when you run it in the Konsole?
[17:35] <rye> wow
[17:35] <rye> indicator works in kde o_O
[17:35] <olewolf> rye: I'm not sure what you mean by that; do you mean from, say, xterm?
[17:36] <rye> olewolf, in xterm or Konsole or gnome-terminal
[17:37] <olewolf> OK. Actually, it doesn't say anything at all when I start it in a terminal.
[17:37] <rye> olewolf, does it appear?
[17:37] <olewolf> It just launches the preferences window.
[17:37] <olewolf> Name, Email, Current plan are all unknown.
[17:37] <olewolf> They stay like that when I press "Manage account" and login in the browser.
[17:38] <rye> olewolf, could you please run this in another terminal - dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.ubuntu.sso /credentials com.ubuntu.sso.ApplicationCredentials.login_to_get_credentials "string:Ubuntu One" "string:Workaround for LP:657850" int64:0
[17:38] <rye> olewolf, that's from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/657850
[17:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657850 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ubuntu One Preferences applet doesn't display info properly (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed]
[17:41] <olewolf> rye: that doesn't seem to change anything; the window flashes briefly, but the information stays the same.
[17:41] <olewolf> I think that makes sense, though, as long as the computer isn't added to my Ubuntu One account.
[17:43] <rye> olewolf, the window flashes briefly? Some other window or preferences window?
[17:44] <olewolf> The preferences window. Well, something graphical happens; like the border briefly indicates activity or such.
[17:47] <olewolf> Oh, turns out that focus is turned over to the window when I execute that dbus statement. That's where the flash came from.
[17:48] <olewolf> Anyway, it didn't update any information, presumably because it doesn't know this information to begin with.
[17:49] <rye> hm
[17:50] <olewolf> I've tried to purge and reinstall the Ubuntu One clients, including killing every running process and deleting whatever accumulated in .cache, .config, and .local/share.
[17:57] <rye> olewolf, could you please download the script from http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-account-info ?
[17:58] <rye> olewolf, another question is any gnome-keyring process running ?
[17:59] <olewolf> rye: I just thought about that, too when I looked over the script. The keyring is running.
[18:00] <rye> olewolf, is ubuntu-sso-login process running? Could you please kill it and re-run that dbus string?
[18:00] <olewolf> Done.
[18:01] <olewolf> Apparently that restarts the ubuntu-sso-login.
[18:02] <olewolf> The script (ubuntuone-account-info) fails in line 83 or 79. Not sure which line, it says both. It complains that the global name "url" isn't defined.
[18:03] <olewolf> Anyway, according to the script, that's when it reports an error retrieving user data.
[18:03] <rye> olewolf, i hadn't pushed the latest version where that url is removed, ok, that means that SSOCredentials did not find credentials
[18:03] <rye> nessita, ping, do you know how we can run sso gui to force authorization?
[18:03] <rye> nessita, i.e. not via dbus call / signals?
[18:13] <nessita> rye: give me a few minutes, I'm just starting having lunch
[18:13] <nessita> rye: brb in 15
[18:15] <olewolf> rye, nessita: I think I may have figured it out. Removing the .gnome/keyrings directory (I'm using KDE, so I don't need all those Gnome keys) causes u1sdtool -c to open a window where I can sign in. Connecting seems to take a while, however.
[18:16] <olewolf> A long while, that is. Too long.
[18:18] <rye> olewolf, i'd say that it may not even have started to connect
[18:18] <rye> olewolf, could you please run u1sdtool --status ?
[18:19] <olewolf> Not necessary. It turns out I had to recreate the keyrings directory with permissions 700. That caused the process to finish successfully (for now...).
[18:21] <olewolf> Status says, "With User With Network", "processing queues", and "is_connected: True". Seems good.
[18:21] <rye> olewolf, ok, that looks good
[18:22] <olewolf> Opening the preferences recognize my settings. And ~/Ubuntu One is filling; synchronization is active. Cool.
[18:23] <olewolf> So, the problem was I had to "rm -rf ~/.gnome2/keyring ; mkdir ~/.gnome2/keyring ; chmod 755 ~/.gnome2/keyring. With everything killed, that is.
[18:23] <olewolf> Maybe also with all the various ubuntuone files in .local/share and such deleted.
[18:24] <olewolf> So, thanks for your help, at least as far as troubleshooting goes. :)
[18:25] <rye> olewolf, you can install magicicada application to see what syncdaemon is doing
[18:27] <olewolf> rye: Yes, I saw that mentioned somewhere. It doesn't seem necessary now, though.
[18:31] <nessita> rye: I'm back. Can you repeat your question please? not sure I understood what you need to do
[18:32] <rye> nessita, already fixed, gnome-keyring was not cooperating
[18:32] <nessita> rye: ok then
[18:32] <nessita> olewolf: when you say connecting is taking a long time, what do you mean?
[18:32] <olewolf> nessita: More than 60 seconds for a simple login. :)
[18:33] <olewolf> nessita: However, it appears it was because of a broken keyring.
[18:33] <nessita> olewolf: but 60 seconds where? I mean, do you see a SSO blocked screen? or nothing at all?
[18:33] <nessita> does the SSO screen appears and you entered user and pass?
[18:34] <olewolf> nessita: No, just the login windows saying connecting. It appeared eventually, when I removed the keyring directory. Then it stayed in the "connecting" mode until I created the directory. It's a keyring issue, not an ubuntuone issue.
[18:34] <olewolf> nessita: It's fixed now, though.
[18:35] <nessita> olewolf: ok, so you've logged in already? what does u1sdtool -s show?
[18:35] <olewolf> nessita: It's all working now. No worries. :)
[18:35] <nessita> olewolf: ok!
[18:35]  * nessita continues hacking
[18:40] <mcarter_> Kicking the tyres on Maverick Meerkat.
[18:40] <mcarter_> Can I access Ubuntu One from a different Linux distro - specifically Slackware?
[18:41] <kklimonda> mcarter_: you can access your files through the web interface
[18:41] <kklimonda> mcarter_: and there is nothing ubuntu-specific in a client that I'm aware of but it may not be easy to install it from scratch
[18:44] <mcarter_> So, is it like mounting a gvfs mount point?
[18:46] <mcarter_> Not sure how I'd actually accomplish it, but is that basically how it's done?
[18:46] <kklimonda> no
[18:47] <kklimonda> the web interface is just that - you go to http://one.ubuntu.com/ and have access to your files
[18:48] <kklimonda> client is a daemon that keeps local files in sync with what you have on a server
[18:49] <mcarter_> Ah, so if I didn't want to use a web interface, I could run a daemon. Where could I get this from?
[18:50] <kklimonda> I believe you can download it from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client
[18:50] <mcarter_> rsync?
[18:51] <kklimonda> no, it's not rsync - the protocol is a custom one
[18:52] <mcarter_> OK.
[18:52] <mcarter_> Thanks for the link - that looks like what I'm after.
[19:16] <mahen> hey guys... I still encounter many issues with the Linux U1 client, trying to sync my 20 GB mp3 directory... Well 1) it began to sync 3.7 GB, then I never managed to get more.  2) there's one night during which my computer uploaded 4 GB, none of which was store on the server 3) from that point U1 client tended to disconnect itself easily as soon as there was some other network activity 4) now (for several days), I don't even manage to connect
[19:16] <mahen>  at all. When I click on connect it first spend 2 minutes spinning my harddrive, then there is an indefinite amount of time during which my CPU is at 100%...
[19:16] <mahen> (sorry for my English ;)
[19:19] <rye> mahen, could you please pastebin ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[19:20] <mahen> sure rye
[19:25] <kevin_> rye, thank you! The bug report was submitted and today I got a response that fixed the problem! :D
[19:26] <rye> kevin_, umm? Could you please remind me what bug report you are talking about?
[19:26] <kevin_> rye, one sec.
[19:27] <kevin_> rye: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/657850
[19:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657850 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ubuntu One Preferences applet doesn't display info properly (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed]
[19:27] <rye> kevin_, ah, yes, by the way, was that your freshly-installed system?
[19:27] <kevin_> rye, no, it had all the updates already installed
[19:40] <Tarrasch> Using ubuntu 10.04, I've noticed that Ubuntu One has totally removed my folder with my work and replaced it with an old unsynchronized version, the one lying on the Ubuntu One. Any way to recover my files?
[19:40] <Tarrasch> Maybe 'Ubuntu One' didn't remove the files, rather nautilus or some other part of Ubuntu replaced the files, however, I'm most interesting in any way to recover.
[19:41] <rye> Tarrasch, switching to private
[19:45] <rye> facundobatista, ping
[19:46] <facundobatista> rye, pong
[19:48] <rye> facundobatista, mahen has a syncdaemon that nom-noms CPU at full speed while being in READY state, it is reproducible, I believe I should ask for the debug log first
[19:50] <facundobatista> rye, "nom-noms"?
[19:50] <rye> mahen, let's ask syncdaemon to be more verbose, could you please run u1sdtool --quit?
[19:50] <rye> facundobatista, i mean consumes 100% cpu, sorry, too many lolcats
[19:51] <mahen> rye : done
[19:51] <rye> mahen, now please run ubuntuone-syncdaemon as /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuons-syncdaemon --debug > ~/syncdaemon-debug.log in the terminal
[19:52] <rye> mahen, after that please open another terminal and see whether it still consumes all 100% of CPU?
[19:52] <mahen> rye : I always get Another instance is running
[19:54] <mahen> do you mind if i'm back in 45 minutes ?
[19:54] <mahen> I really have to go :-/
[19:54] <rye> mahen, ah, you are running the indicator which keeps it alive. Could you please update ubuntuone-indicator to 0.0.4.1 with sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:54] <mahen> indeed the  indicator is running
[19:54] <rye> mahen, i fixed that issue, it should not keep syncdaemon awake now
[19:55] <mahen> ok that's good now
[19:55] <rye> mahen, then simply killall ubuntuone-indicator
[19:55] <mahen> here's the log
[19:56] <rye> mahen, ah, ok
[19:56] <mahen> sending... that's long :)
[19:56] <mahen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/511075/
[19:56] <mahen> I have to go : I'll be right back, sorry & thanks again to both of you :)
[20:02] <rye> mahen, ok, when you return could you please try running ubuntuone-syncdaemon in debug for more time so that it actually reaches READY state and still consuming 100% CPU
[20:05]  * rye reboots
[20:12] <rye> omg
[20:13] <rye> i just removed my ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/fsm (-delete instead of -empty), how much should I be worried?
[20:14] <beuno> I would call the cops
[20:17] <nessita> rye: ugh
[20:18] <nessita> rye: facundobatista is the guy to ask
[20:18]  * rye is doing a backup of UDFS on another machine and will reconnect soon to see what happens :)
[20:18] <nessita> rye: if I were you, I'll ask facundobatista before reconnecting
[20:18] <beuno> I assume since you can start fresh from anther laptop, it should be recoverable?
[20:21] <rye> beuno, yes, i have a local server running client in headless mode even though i have not yet found a way to make it working w/o much hacking
[20:21] <facundobatista> rye, I think you'll have a zillion of errors, and it will converge to safe (famous last words)
[20:21] <facundobatista> rye, the errors will be because the client will try to create again everything in the server, and it's already there
[20:21] <facundobatista> rye, anyway, please back up first
[20:30] <tim> hello
[20:30] <tim> i need help with singing on
[20:31] <tim> i type my email in but it says its the wrong captcha solution
[20:31] <mrandrzejak> U1 unable to log into acct. magicicada just sits there too.
[20:31] <mrandrzejak> honk
[20:32] <rye> mrandrzejak, hi, what release are you running and what environment (ubuntu / kubuntu)?
[20:33] <rye> tim, are you registering a new user?
[20:33] <mrandrzejak> maverick/ubuntu hello rye!
[20:33] <tim> yeah
[20:33] <mrandrzejak> you helped me with magicicada last friday and also the indicator.
[20:33] <mrandrzejak> but after boot up, U1 never signs in
[20:34] <mrandrzejak> the prefs can see my U1 acct, but never connects.
[20:34] <rye> mrandrzejak, what does u1sdtool --status say?
[20:34] <rye> mrandrzejak, by the way, are you running a ppa version of indicator or the one I put using ubuntuone public files?
[20:34] <mrandrzejak> not sure
[20:34] <rye> tim, ok, let me check new accounts creating
[20:35] <mrandrzejak> i think it might be from the deb file
[20:35] <mrandrzejak> do u have a link to the ppa?
[20:35] <mrandrzejak> info
[20:35] <tim> i have a googlemail account dont know if that has anything to do with it?
[20:35] <mrandrzejak> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:35] <mrandrzejak> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[20:35] <rye> mrandrzejak, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:rye/ubuntuone-extras; sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-indicator; killall ubuntuone-indicator; ubuntuone-indicator
[20:36] <rye> tim, no, it should not matter
[20:36] <tim> a bug maybe?
[20:37] <rye> mrandrzejak, there should be sudo apt-get update; between add repository and install
[20:37] <rye> tim, checking in a vm to see whether captcha works
[20:38] <mrandrzejak> affirmative
[20:39] <mrandrzejak> upgrading it seemed to trigger the U1 to work now
[20:40] <mrandrzejak> but...
[20:40] <mrandrzejak> ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
[20:41] <mrandrzejak> i remember u saying there was a bug with U1 not loading up at boot
[20:44] <tim> rye any luck dude?
[20:44] <rye> tim, updating...
[20:44] <tim> ok
[20:44] <rye> mrandrzejak, yes, there is a bug , i have a patch for that to work, that's bug #651237
[20:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 651237 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "ubuntuone-launch fails to start syncdaemon if dbus call times out (affects: 2) (heat: 309)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651237
[20:45] <mrandrzejak> ohh you have a patch!! please advise :) thanks
[20:48] <rye> mrandrzejak, if you open /usr/bin/ubuntuone-launch there is a string d.addCallback(wait_for_ready, sync_daemon_tool) - if you replace addCallback with addBoth it will work
[20:48] <mrandrzejak> ok, thanks
[20:49] <rye> hm,
[20:49] <rye> Roman Yepishev 7 hours ago  ?
[20:50] <rye> weird, it looks like I approved my own branch w/o reviewer or Chipaca did that
[20:51] <rye> ok, 55% maverick update in vm...
[20:52] <tim> ok
[20:52] <mrandrzejak> so it should look like this:
[20:52] <mrandrzejak> d.addBoth(wait_for_ready, sync_daemon_tool)
[20:52] <rye> mrandrzejak, yes
[20:52] <mrandrzejak> thanks
[20:52] <rye> mrandrzejak, this will be included in next stable release upgrade for the client
[21:10] <rye> facundobatista, okay, after i removed the metadata and reconnected I got no files deleted but it looks like UDFs are not re-scanned
[21:11] <rye> facundobatista, so no md for files within UDFs, only within root
[21:12] <facundobatista> rye, if you issue a --refresh-folders, what happen?
[21:12] <rye> facundobatista, refresh-volumes does not help
[21:14] <rye> facundobatista, --rescan-from-scratch ftw
[21:15] <rye> facundobatista, it just downloads files locally from the server
[21:15] <facundobatista> rye, did it work?
[21:15] <rye> facundobatista, yup
[21:15] <facundobatista> rye, awesome
[21:15] <rye> facundobatista, yup, i expected alarms all over the place
[21:15] <facundobatista> jajaj
[21:17] <Dink> The 10.10 release notes mentions a beta client for windows, is it not available ?
[21:17] <rye> mandel, ping ^
[21:18] <mandel> Dink, hello, the pacakage should be avaialabe mid this week, you got us with a bit of work regarding the explanationf o what to expect and what not etc..
[21:18] <mandel> Dink, the msi and all the info should be up this week the latests, sorry for the small delay but my team is not that big ;)
[21:19] <Dink> Ahh no worries.
[21:19] <Dink> Got a bit excited when I read that part. Currently using dropbox and would love to switch to ubuntuone once the msi is ready.
[21:20] <mandel> Dink, may I ask you a question? which os are u using? xp, vita (oh god!), 7 or 7 x64?
[21:20] <Dink> XP
[21:20] <Dink> 32bit
[21:20] <mandel> Dink, cool, no worries for you then :D
[21:20] <Dink> hehe good :)
[21:22] <mandel> Dink, nevertheless if you have any quetions when ever you install the msi, go to launchpad, lp:ubuntuone-windows-installer of ping me here (I shouldbe faster than launchad answers)
[21:22] <mandel> rye, what the heck are u doing here, do you ever rest ? O_o
[21:24] <rye> mandel, i am resyncing my computer and shutdown, yeah...
[21:24] <mandel> rye, so you dont rest :P
[21:25] <Dink> Cool. Yeah looking forward to it and I will definitely test it out for you guys. Tend to use the bleeding edge when it comes to this stuff. Waiting to jump on 11.04 ;)
[21:26] <mandel> Dink, superb! your input will be very welcome
[21:27] <Dink> ohh ohh the gates for 11.04 have been opened. Let the breakage begin :P
[21:27] <rye> mandel, 330 files to go, ah, need to file a bug for chicarra not supplying size for content queue changed signal...
[21:28] <mahen> rye : what is your timezone actually ?
[21:28] <rye> mahen, +0300, so it is 23:28 here
[21:28] <rye> yeah...
[21:29] <rye> no bug file today
[21:29] <mandel> rye, puff, one question, how much do we usually take to sync 9gb using chicharra? u1sync taes ages.. and that is why I used for windows...
[21:29] <mahen> rye : ah OK, I hour earlier here... Are you a Canonical employee in an office or working in your spare time ? :) (then I let you sleep, oops sorry :)
[21:29] <mahen> -I +1
[21:30] <rye> 9gb depends on the number of content blobs - count(nodes)*2 second for metadata + content upload blobs that will take up to 2 seconds to initiate upload, max transfer rate and so on
[21:30] <rye> mandel, that's why i am that crazy on the estimates in the indicator now
[21:30] <mandel> mahen, make him work, all canonical guys are lazy bastards, specailly the europeans hehe
[21:30] <rye> mahen, Canonical contractor, home based
[21:31] <mahen> ok :)
[21:31] <mandel> rye, yeah... neverthelessjot down all your ideas, we are going to refactor chicharra so that it can be properly used on windows...
[21:33] <mandel> rye, I'm thinking that we could start using M$ minutes... hehe
[21:34] <rye> neverthelessjot is not a supported word. Sentence dropped
[21:34] <rye> wow, vm updated
[21:35] <rye> mandel, while you are at it, port deb packages to windows too and dbus, kthanxbye
[21:36] <mandel> rye, dont get me started, I had to write a lot of code for things like the keyring, dbus etc.. the stuff that replaces dbus is crazy, all the UI code is c# (there are two ui, the shell extension and the Ui) which communicate through named pipes with a process that hosts services that will launch u1sync accordingly, fucking crazu
[21:36] <mandel> crazy
[21:36] <mandel> I hate working on windows...
[21:37] <rye> mandel, i knew you'll like my request
[21:38] <mandel> rye, well, with me around, it will make the port o other os easier... l
[21:39] <mandel> rye, by the way, are u going to uds?
[21:39] <rye> mandel, nope
[21:39] <mandel> rye, how come? tired of travelling?
[21:42] <rye> mandel, no, not really in the list of invited people and even if i were, i would have needed a week only to get adapted to the timezone shift
[21:43] <ajmitch> rye: surely it's not that bad for you?
[21:43] <mandel> rye, oh, what a pity, last time in burssles you did not join us for any drink.. my fault, my car was not big enough :P
[21:44] <rye> ajmitch, nope, i won't meet nessit@ who would otherwise kill me for being non-pep[0-1000] compatible in my python code
[21:45] <ajmitch> heh
[21:45] <mandel> rye, hahahah dude, I once had to make like 5 revs in my branch because of my docstrings
[21:47] <rye> mandel, last UDS i fully regained consciousness only on Wednesday or so :)
[21:48] <kklimonda> rye: wasn't the last uds in brussels?
[21:48] <rye> kklimonda, yup
[21:48] <kklimonda> rye: don't you live somewhere in europe?
[21:49] <mandel> rye, this cycle for me is going to be crazy, uds, desktopcouch sprint, chicharra sprint... and I hope that nothing else..
[21:49] <rye> kklimonda, yup :) 2 hours by jet
[21:49] <kklimonda> mandel: what are you going to do at the desktopcouch sprint?
[21:50] <kklimonda> mandel: or rather is there something in particular you guys are going to work there
[21:50] <mandel> kklimonda, we are going to focus on performance, we also want to make the code smarted, we noticed that gwibber was not using the lib correctly
[21:50] <kklimonda> rye: bah, now I'm getting nervous.. maybe I shouldn't fly to Florida a day before UDS ;)
[21:51] <kklimonda> mandel: oh? What were they doing wrong?
[21:51] <ajmitch> kklimonda: you'll be fine, it's only a short trip :P
[21:51] <mandel> kklimonda,  so we want to make sure that the code is smart to tell the devel what is going on wrong
[21:51] <kklimonda> ajmitch: right - 14 hours or so ;)
[21:51] <rye> kklimonda, it depends :)
[21:51] <ajmitch> kklimonda: I live in NZ, flights to europe are at least 24 hours :)
[21:51] <kklimonda> mandel: oh, that sounds.. well, cool and scary :)
[21:51] <mandel> kklimonda, well, the problem they had is that they inserted docs in the db and then very quiclky called a view, that means that for every insert the will rebuild the index used in the view
[21:51] <rye> mandel, import desktopcouch -> pop up 'You are agree to the following terms of usage: do not store everything in the database, blah blah blah'
[21:52] <mandel> kklimonda, that is qhy desktopcouch was using 100% cpu (well an others )
[21:52] <kklimonda> mandel: right, I remember ken talking about it. What would be a better approach here? rebuilding view only on querying it? wouldn't it slow querying down too much?
[21:53] <mandel> kklimonda, well, that is the issue, couchdb will aonly rebul the vie when you query it, they were adding, and then quering everytime, so for one doc, they were rebuilding the full index
[21:53] <kklimonda> rye: heh, "by importing this module you acnowledge the fact that you know desktopcouch is slow and you should use it only for buzz word"? ;)
[21:54] <kklimonda> mandel: oh, that makes sense - ken was talking about rebuilding view every time that were adding a new document but I couldn't understand how were they doing it.
[21:54] <kklimonda> mandel: but it's still going to be slow - just not as slow..
[21:55] <mandel> kklimonda, yes, we will try to improve those details.. the guys of couchdb want to make it faster, we will add a nice abstraction layer
[21:55] <mandel> kklimonda, that will hopefully avoid those issues... how, I have no clue :P
[21:55] <kklimonda> I guess it shouldn't be as bad if you launch a view rebuild every 10 minutes or so.. but then the idea is for other developers to use desktopcouch as well
[21:55] <kklimonda> I can imagine that it's going to get really messy really fast
[21:56] <kklimonda> if we start dropping there things like settings, message logs, rss feeds..
[21:56] <rye> tim, if you are still here - just checked signup and captcha works
[21:56] <kklimonda> too bad, I love the idea.
[21:56] <tim> hmm
[21:56] <mandel> kklimonda, yes, that is why we have the sprint, which is just after uds, we start that weekend and stay til the 4th
[21:56] <tim> mine doesnt seem to work
[21:56] <mandel> kklimonda, I guess we will wak around asking people what they will like to do :D
[21:57] <kklimonda> mandel: count me in, I do have some ideas :)
[21:57] <mahen> good night everyone & thanks again for your kindness :)
[21:57] <mahen> cheers
[21:57] <tim> and guess what ubuntu 10.10 when you download an iso bootable image and try to open it, it will automatically go to a burning program xD
[21:57] <kklimonda> mandel: do you have any solution for a full text search btw? ;)
[21:58] <mandel> kklimonda, puf, no, I mean you can use that java thing they have in apache but... we ould like to have something less expensive
[21:58] <mandel> kklimonda, you have to be very smart with views, kinda of a pain
[21:58] <kklimonda> or should we just wait for tracker to get accepted as a dependency of gnome? that would probably fix the issue
[21:58] <mandel> kklimonda, haha that would be nice
[21:59] <mandel> kklimonda, will you be at uds?
[21:59] <kklimonda> mandel: I know, I've already took some time to check various solutions for this issue but none of them were really suitable for desktop
[21:59] <kklimonda> mandel: yeah
[21:59] <mandel> kklimonda, yep, that is our point
[21:59] <kklimonda> tracker would be perfect
[21:59] <mandel> kklimonda, at uds, look for chad and me, we are in the desktopcouch sprint, the rest will be there later, although I'm not fully sure
[22:00] <kklimonda> mandel: will do, do you have some blueprints I could subscribe to?
[22:00] <kklimonda> mandel: or should I just look for a big futon? ;)
[22:01] <mandel> kklimonda, not yet, they told us about this last week, so look for the sofa hehe
[22:01] <mandel> kklimonda, and we are easy to rcognize, a spaniard and a bold guy with a goatty hehe
[22:01] <kklimonda> :D
[22:01] <kklimonda> I hope there are some kind of identificators issued at the beginning? ;)
[22:02] <mandel> kklimonda, ys, you will get a tag with the irc nick, but if you want a few days later I can point you to our flicker profiles, is easier when you see faces, specially becaue is you first uds, right?
[22:02] <kklimonda> right
[22:03] <kklimonda> flick profiles would be great :)
[22:07] <rye> ok, will go offline now, 00:03 :)
[22:07] <rye> see you all tomorrow!
[22:25] <duffydack> I just put 2x 1.4mb png files in my sync folder, and published.. copied links and trying to display in browser, nothing, its 'waiting' for ubuntuone.  Checked u1 client, and it still says synchronising..but they are sync`d...
[22:33] <duffydack> client now says sync complete, republished, still nothing