Xubuntu 9.10 Documentation

[00:11] Oh darn. I was about to reply with "right click on the title bar and choose resize" [00:11] But he's gone [01:35] Quick question. I was reading that 10.10 removes Brasero and junk and replaces it with Xfburn (which I already use) but when trying to do the network upgrade it still wants to re-install Brasero so that seems a bit odd. [01:36] Is there a listing of the Xubuntu-specific mirrors or something I can check my software sources against? [02:45] why is there no network places or any network browser in xubuntu ? [02:45] i cant find any kind of network browser at all [02:48] its called firefox [02:48] it is found in the quick launch which is red and blue and is right next to places [02:48] on the top panel [02:49] oh, network [02:49] gigolo [02:49] lol [02:49] thats found in applications> system> gigolo [02:49] however you kinda have to configure it first [02:51] eh, im kinda new anyways [02:51] hm can it browse netware shares [02:51] but since no one else seems to be around [02:51] not sure.. im nt to familiar with networking on linux [02:51] not* [02:51] ive only recently connected to another computer [02:53] but gigolo lets you look at files on a computer [02:53] and other stuff [02:53] but ive only really had experience with windows [02:54] hm [02:54] only way i found so far is to manually mount netshares to a local folder [02:55] kinda user unfriendly [02:55] !ssh [02:55] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [02:55] there used to be a places > network that was kinda neat then the developers in their wisdom desided nobody uses network anymore [02:55] this is the only way ive used it so far [02:56] in the file manager thunar type in the path bar smb://IPaddress where ip address is the ip of the comp you want to connect to [02:56] well i know i would of liked it :] [02:56] hm oh well, looks like its boned anyway , after 30 mins uptime the novell server just keeps rebooting, i guess the drive is toast anyway ;( [02:56] so much for saving that data [02:56] no way to access a netware partition locally i guess ? [02:58] !netware [02:58] !info netware [02:58] Package netware does not exist in lucid [02:59] well thats fail imo [02:59] there is a package called ncpfs that has something to do with netware but i found no way to start it [02:59] !ncpfs [02:59] yeah who needs network or servers anyway... [03:00] !info ncpfs [03:00] ncpfs (source: ncpfs): utilities to use resources from NetWare servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.6-7 (lucid), package size 730 kB, installed size 2432 kB [03:00] kalle_: you using 10.10? [03:00] !info ncpfs maverick [03:00] ncpfs (source: ncpfs): utilities to use resources from NetWare servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.6-8 (maverick), package size 730 kB, installed size 2428 kB [03:01] hm im not sure [03:01] maybe the one before that [03:01] i forget how to check [03:01] that's lucid :] [03:01] lsb_release [03:01] iirc [03:01] is 10.10 out or beta ? [03:02] i just might upgrade.. idk [03:02] my 10.04 version is modified anyways [03:03] 10.10 is out :] [03:03] but 10.04 is a lts [03:03] i kinda like how 10.04 is darker [03:03] !lts [03:03] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [03:04] !maverick [03:04] Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010 [03:05] nice how it still says welcome to 9.1 after i upgrade to the latest version [03:05] i guess linux will never be finished, then again what is these days [03:06] !version [03:06] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [03:06] most things are barely usable by the time support is cut coz its ancient history [03:06] nope not the right address [03:06] jrmy: which one? [03:07] it says 10.04.1 [03:07] so i can get an upgrade of xubuntu to 10.10 [03:08] sure its not a beta ? my update manager says i have all the latest updates [03:09] is it suppose to say ubuntu 10.04 or xubuntu 10.04 after putting in said lsb_release -a command? [03:09] jrmy: I think just 10.01\4.1 [03:09] jrmy: I think just 10.04.1 [03:10] they use the same base - it is just the desktop environment that is diff [03:10] well it says http://paste2.org/p/1030751 [03:11] yeah still getting the hang of xubuntu/ubuntu [03:11] that looks fine - it won't mention the desktop you use [03:11] ok [03:14] there's http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release [03:15] is it possible to downgrade? [03:16] i found it, but thanks [03:16] its ironic that google.com/linux doesnt show up linux stuff as well [03:17] like if i type in "xubuntu" none of the results on the first page are the website [03:17] you can't really downgrade at all - only way I know is to install older version [03:17] I just click the link in the topic here [03:18] to get to xubuntus' website [03:18] i see [03:19] i know that it is xubuntu.org [03:19] so LTS are every .04 release? [03:20] the website isn't really a howto forum or anything so it prob is low on the search hits meter [03:20] possibly [03:21] nope every couple of years iirc - last was 8.04 I think [03:21] !release [03:21] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [03:21] well im upgrading [03:21] luck :] [03:21] yep [03:22] should i stop my music player and close out stuff btw? [03:22] no it should be fine to continue as normal [03:23] ok [03:23] then i'll pretty much be here till i need to reboot [03:24] in #ubuntu and #kubuntu there are a few ppl having some issues after the upgrade [03:24] that sucks [03:25] some of 'em aren't too pleased [03:25] i pretty much have all my files backed up either way [03:25] yeah i wouldnt be either [03:25] someone that does backups - you're rare it seems :] === Cityscape is now known as Maxx55 === Maxx55 is now known as register [03:27] heh === register is now known as Cityscape [03:27] yeah especially if its stuff like music ive written [03:29] so what kind of issues have been happening? [03:29] diff ones for diff folks - graphics, sound, wifi etc [03:30] yeah those blow [03:30] though ive only had an issue because of bad memory [03:31] Can anyone help me with damn small linux?x [03:31] it was weird when i installed wine on my desktop with ubuntu 10.04 and it changed the language to hebrew [03:31] maybe in a different channel [03:31] this is the xubuntu support channel [03:32] Cityscape: you can check for a dsl channel with /msg alis list *dsl* [03:32] there is [03:32] i just check [03:32] ed [03:32] what was the channel called? [03:32] #dsl is damn small linux [03:33] and or #damnsmalllinux [03:33] both work apparently [03:34] #damnsmalllinux is inactive as are all DSL channels that i could find. [03:34] All i want is to cange my default monitor resolution. :( [03:34] that can be a problem [03:35] does dsl have a X log? [03:35] isnt there an x11 config file? [03:35] Yah, DSL has X. [03:36] does dsl have a X log? [03:36] there is an X11 config file that specifies the resolution [03:36] is there a way to change to a mirror closer to my location when downloading updates and upgrades by any chance? [03:36] say for instance maybe MSU which is 6 miles or so east of me [03:37] some mirrors have limited bandwidth - distance isn't the best guide [03:37] because it is really lame that i can only download stuff at 200KB/s [03:38] waiting an hour for 600MB isnt my idea of fun [03:38] I'm not getting sound on a fresh 10.10 xubuntu install, but I have on almost every other ubuntu install [03:38] any help? [03:38] but I need to know how to change the default resolution. http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Vga%3Dxxx looked usful but I think it's only for booting from USB or CDROM. I have DSL installed on my hard drive. [03:38] with a new release all servers are going to be way busy [03:39] happyfac1: looked at alsamixer in terminal? [03:39] Cityscape: i believe you might be correct [03:39] jrmy: i'm downloding the xubuntu ISO and it been going 2 hours and it only half way. [03:39] moetunes: "error opening terminal: unknown" when trying to open alsamixer [03:40] City, that is the res for the screen buffer, that's a kernel arg, are you trying to change text res or X? [03:40] jrmy: correct about which? [03:40] i remember about one of the light weight distros not being made for hdd installation [03:40] jrmy: that might be DSL then. [03:40] happyfac1: edit your .bashrc file and add the line export TERM=xterm then logout/login [03:41] in theory [03:41] im not completely certain [03:42] dsl works fine from hdd [03:42] it has forums on it [03:42] *on doing it [03:42] royalk: all I want is to change the default boot resolution for DSL. right stuff doesn't look quite right on boot. [03:43] Cityscape: you need to find out why it doesn't do the right res - the X log will tell - it might be the best the driver can do [03:44] moetunes: I've unmuted everything and nothing [03:45] moetunes: I'm guessing that it's running at too high of a res. I running a intel 486 with a 1 MB graphics card. [03:45] well moetunes lets hope i dont have a problem with 10.10 as well [03:45] Cityscape: noone in here will know what driver dsl has for that [03:45] you can set that vga arg in grub i believe [03:46] on that link you sent [03:46] happyfac1: in terminal cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp - watch out it is loud - ctrl+c to stop it [03:46] i havent tried dsl yet.. just might burn myself a copy [03:46] happyfac1: ant noise? [03:47] i think i like puppy should put that on cd too [03:47] jrmy: I wouldn't bother - it uses old kernel and horrible packaging [03:47] moetunes: no sir [03:47] happyfac1: no errors mentioned? [03:47] moetunes: i'll be using a cd-rw no biggy [03:47] moetunes: no, it ran [03:48] jrmy: it's good for old computer like my 486 but on a Pentium 3 or higher machine I would never use it as a main distro. [03:48] #gentoo [03:48] happyfac1: in terminal do lsmod | grep snd how many lines do you get? [03:48] my computer is pretty slow as well [03:48] moetunes: 13 [03:48] cool [03:49] so im interested in these light weight distro's [03:49] however i think im set with xubuntu [03:50] What new features does Xubuntu 10.10 have? [03:50] jrmy: what are your computer's specs? [03:50] happyfac1: what does aplay -l return [03:51] moetunes: two playback devices on card 0 [03:51] jrmy: DSL is really light. It only requires a 486 with 16 MB RAM. [03:51] p3 @ 1.2GHz 256+128MB mem 8MB graphics [03:51] happyfac1: and the card name? [03:51] *is? [03:51] moetunes: Intel ICH5 [03:52] moetunes: which works on ubuntu [03:52] happyfac1: ubuntu 10.10? [03:52] jrmy: similar to mine, I have a 750 Mhz AMD processor, 1 GB RAM and 8 MB graphics. [03:52] Cityscape: what is a 486 anyways? [03:52] moetunes: I'm not sure, but 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10 [03:53] happyfac1: can you paste what lsmod | grep snd returned? [03:53] !paste [03:53] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:53] jrmy: it's an inter processor from about 1992. they range from 15 Mhz to 100 Mhz [03:53] was about to say that [03:54] oldest processor i own is a pentium [03:54] moetunes: yea I'll run pastebinit [03:54] k [03:54] is paste2.org the new pastebin? [03:54] jrmy: okay 486 is one model before pentium. [03:54] i see [03:55] moetunes: [03:55] http://pastebin.com/9a8VkHZs [03:55] yep [03:55] jrmy: if your interested in lightweight distro's...have you tried Lubuntu? [03:55] im attached to the software center with ubuntu and xubuntu so i didnt like lubuntu [03:56] heh [03:56] the software center does have just about everything [03:56] afaik [03:58] happyfac1: that looks fine - with /dev/dsp working but not outputting anything I need to ask you to check the connectors and that whatever you are running sound through is turned on pls [03:58] isnt there a 7zip in linux ? or something that can extract multivolumes [03:58] maybe i need to binary copy them into one file ? [03:58] yes [03:59] !find 7zip [03:59] Found: p7zip, p7zip-full, p7zip-rar [03:59] !find rar [03:59] Found: librarian-dev, librarian0, rarian-compat, guile-library, hol88-library, hol88-library-help, hol88-library-source, koverartist, libclaw-dynamic-library-dev, libclaw-dynamic-library1 (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rar&searchon=names&suite=lucid§ion=all [03:59] !info p7zip [03:59] p7zip (source: p7zip): 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.04~dfsg.1-1 (lucid), package size 350 kB, installed size 1000 kB [03:59] i tryed p7zip [03:59] didnt work [03:59] i think i have 7zip installed [03:59] idk though [04:00] happyfac1: if everything is connected/on then it is bug filing time - I'm outta ideas on what else to check [04:00] !bug [04:00] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [04:00] jrmy: yah I love the software center too. [04:00] hm unknown suffix ignored ? [04:00] p7zip -d filename ? [04:00] kalle_: dont mind my answers though.. im still sorta a noob [04:00] what's the suffix [04:00] moetunes: ok thanks I'll keep trying... /dev/dsp will work even if muted, right? [04:01] happyfac1: yep [04:01] moetunes: alrighty I'll keep trying [04:01] lol so are the developers jrmy hehe ;=) [04:01] heh [04:01] Question: How large is the Xubuntu 10.10 ISO supposed be? My download just finished at 380 MB. [04:01] happyfac1: last thought - have you selected the pcm as the master? [04:02] Cityscape: 713,584kb for 32 bit [04:02] So then 380 MB would be a failed download then right? [04:02] yes [04:02] lol [04:02] dang it :( [04:03] Why it is tell me its complete a 380 MB!!!!!!!! [04:03] opps, missed a lot of letters there. [04:03] Cityscape: bad connection, try another server [04:03] your torrent client is impatient [04:03] :P [04:03] lol [04:04] I was downloading which Google Chrome [04:04] *with [04:05] i used http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/ [04:05] oh my bad.. i find it pointless to download them unless via torrent [04:05] torrenting is much faster [04:05] I can't anywhere else to download. [04:05] jrmy: bandwidth isn't free [04:06] jrmy: I have very low bandwidth so torrent is a poor option for me. [04:06] yeah i was gonna comment on that [04:06] jrmy: oh, I thought you said pointless via torrent nvm lol [04:06] but heh you beat me to it [04:06] hey* [04:06] oh [04:07] I can't find anywhere else to download 10.10, :( :( :( [04:07] do you want to download it via torrent? [04:08] moetunes: how do I select the pcm as the master? [04:09] jrmy: sure, i'm willing to try anything right now. [04:10] do you have a client to download torrents firstly? [04:10] I have Transmission. [04:10] jrmy: what are you running now? [04:10] it's what I use for torrents [04:10] do you have 32 bit or 64? [04:11] that too [04:11] hm well binary copy did the trick ;=) [04:11] This is my other computer running Ubuntu 10.10 x86. it has transmission. [04:11] I want to download Xubuntu 10.10 - 32 bit [04:12] happyfac1: if the sound icon doesn't let you I don't know - try to right click it [04:12] well if anyone knows somethin i dont then yeah they should tell you [04:12] but the link for the torrent [04:12] i downloaded the alternate version cd pretty earlier [04:12] moetunes: I thought pcm was seperate from the master, either way they are both unmuted and maxed [04:13] how do i completely kill x im try ing to instal the official nvidia drivers [04:13] other then http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/, does anyone know where I can download xubuntu 10.10? [04:13] twinkie_addict: service gdm stop or pkill Xorg [04:14] thanks [04:14] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/xubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [04:14] open the link in a browser or flie>add url and paste that [04:15] and viola [04:15] voila* [04:16] Cityscape^^ [04:16] jrmy: and this is an official ISO? cause I don't want an ISO from a 3rd party. [04:16] yes [04:16] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/ is where i found it [04:17] its down at the bottom [04:17] jrmy: okay thanks a lot. I think Xubuntu will be perfect for my computer. Ubuntu ran just a little slow. (but then some people say the Xubuntu is just a slow as regular ubuntu) [04:18] no, its definitely faster on slow pc's [04:19] okay thanks jrmy. are you on this channel often? [04:19] whenever i come on irc, yes [04:20] which is usually everyday unless im doing something important [04:20] how would I contact you in the future? (I always keep a list of people I might like to contact again) [04:20] this channel is fine [04:21] okay. talk to ya later [04:21] i basically have no life [04:21] bye ;) [04:21] so im on irc everyday [04:21] bye [04:21] * Cityscape is hoping to get a fresh start with Xubuntu 10.10 [04:21] :] [04:21] * Cityscape waves bye to everyone [04:24] i think on average xubuntu uses only half of my ram [04:24] so for only having 300 some odd thats pretty good [04:24] moetunes: well that was the first person i helped :] [04:24] linux wise [04:24] feelsgoodman.jpg [04:25] hehe :] [04:26] 3 more minutes till its done downloading my upgrade to 10.10 [04:26] ok, 5 minutes? it just chaged [04:27] changed* [04:27] I thought you had a slow connection [04:27] 6... grrrr [04:27] 200KB/s average is slow compared to my isp rating [04:28] i'm dling ubuntu 10.10 at 1.5 MB/s on torrents now :D [04:28] which is 750KB/s expected and in the 800's to 900's on average [04:28] I'm suprised you got that speed with so many wanting 10.10 [04:29] there's only 127 seeds and 134 leechers [04:29] well its mostly upgrades with stuff i already had [04:29] with 10.04 i was hitting around 2MB/s :D [04:30] moetunes: isn't the joy of bittorrent the more people dling the faster your speeds? [04:30] basically [04:30] it should be [04:30] more sources = faster speeds [04:30] wel potentially [04:30] well* [04:30] depends if people want to limit there upload speed [04:30] unless people are lame and [04:30] yea that [04:31] their* [04:31] yeah.. [04:31] moetunes: I'm seeing if ubuntu 10.10 has the same sound issue [04:31] * jrmy frowns upon that [04:32] happyfac1: it will either be something with the xfce sound app or the driver - if it is the driver ubuntu will have the same issue so good luck :] [04:32] I hope it isn't the driver... [04:33] moetunes: first linux install on this old machine that had sound issues, so probably xfce [04:34] xfce = <3 [04:35] and now the installation of the upgrade [04:35] i like the mouse too [04:36] heh [04:36] upgrades always mess stuff up [04:36] fresh installs for life [04:36] wb [04:37] Hello again [04:39] I just started downloading the Xubuntu 10.10 torrent to the same folder as my previous download of Xubuntu 10.10 that did not complete. That torrent is now picking up from where my browser left off. Is this good or should I delete my old iso and start downloading from the beginning? [04:39] so yeah you were the first person i helped with a linux issu [04:39] happyfac1 - you may also want to install the drivers (Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers). It may find the sound driver for you. [04:40] autif: none there [04:40] jrmy: you gave me the link to the torrent, remember? [04:40] not even a propriety one? [04:40] obviously [04:40] sucks! [04:40] worth the try [04:41] Cityscape: i dont know why you didnt delete that one in the first plcae [04:41] jrmy: so I should delete that one then, right? [04:41] i'd do so to be safe [04:42] okay thanks [04:42] never heard of that before [04:42] magic sysrq keys are my favorite <3 [04:43] happyfac1: havent heard of this.. what does it do? [04:43] http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm [04:44] ok im happy with my speed that i downloaded.. it says its gonna take 2 hours to install [04:44] err 2 and 45 minutes [04:48] Cityscape: have you used a torrent client before? [04:51] heh [04:51] i would have been fine [04:51] er the torrent [04:52] each chunk has crc [04:52] and md5sum the finished file [05:06] what does ulimit -u do? [05:14] anyone notice that the suspend and hibernate buttons are gone in 10.10? [05:15] well when you click logout they are no longer there [05:15] right [05:16] thats one of the changes [05:16] i myself never used them [05:16] me either lol [05:17] but i still dont see the point of removing them [05:17] who knows [05:17] does it show up for laptops? [05:18] im sure someone somewhere is pissed [05:18] lol [05:18] lol [05:20] been around before the internet [05:20] had it [05:20] some time in the 80's i believe [05:20] whoops wrong tab [05:20] lol [05:21]