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mcseanHi all, our teacher just accidentally upgraded our Edubuntu server to 10.04LTS and pulled the plug half-way through the update. Long story short, I now have it to the point where I'm able to put the server and login to the server. Unfortunately, I can't get my clients to boot from the server any more. I have run "ltsp-build-client", "ltsp-update-sshkeys", "ltsp-update-image", and "ltsp-update-kernels" but am still unable to boot a client. The error01:47
mcsean I am receiving on the client is: "PXE-T02: Forbidden directory \n PXE-E3C: TFTP Error - Access violation \n PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM". On the server, I able to see that the client is requesting a DHCP lease and the server is responding...01:47
mcseanSorry, looks like that got truncated... let me start over:01:48
mcseanHi all, our teacher just accidentally upgraded our Edubuntu server to 10.04LTS and pulled the plug half-way through the update. Long story short, I now have it to the point where I'm able to put the server and login to the server.01:48
mcseanUnfortunately, I can't get my clients to boot from the server any more. I have run "ltsp-build-client", "ltsp-update-sshkeys", "ltsp-update-image", and "ltsp-update-kernels" but am still unable to boot a client.01:49
mcseanThe error I am receiving on the client is: PXE-T02: Forbidden directory01:49
mcseanPXE-E3C: TFTP Error - Access violation01:49
mcseanPXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM01:49
mcseanOn the server, I able to see that the client is requesting a DHCP lease and the server is responding...01:49
mcseanwith a DHCPACK, but quits after that.01:50
stgrabermcsean: tftpd is probably misconfigured01:58
stgrabermcsean: hang on a sec while I check something01:58
stgrabermcsean: what do you have in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa ?01:58
mcseanchecking01:59
stgraberyou sould have http://paste.ubuntu.com/511258/02:00
stgraberI know in some cases you get a different TFTP_DIRECTORY and that's causing the issue you describe02:00
mcseanok -- I'll update it. right now, my TFTP_DIRECTORY is set to "/srv/tftp"02:00
stgraberif it's the case for you, modify it to look like what I pasted and then do: sudo restart tftpd-hpa02:00
stgraberthe forbidden directory error should disappear after that02:01
mcseanExcellent... one other thing I noticed. While I was waiting for a response here, I chroot'ed into /opt/ltsp/i386 and found that it looks like hardy is still installed there. The client partially booted and then died and kicked me into a busybox shell.02:02
mcseanWhen chroot'ed, "cat /etc/issue" reports "Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l". I believe I saw instructions for rebuilding /opt/ltsp as I was searching today. Do I need to rebuild my ltsp client image now?02:04
stgraberyou'd need to remove /opt/ltsp/i386, run ltsp-build-client, chroot and do your changes, run ltsp-update-image and finally ltsp-update-kernels (just in case)02:06
stgraberactually moving i386 is probably a better idea, just in case ;)02:06
stgraberyou said before you ran ltsp-build-client, did you run it with --purge-chroot ? otherwise it wouldn't rebuild it (as /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists)02:08
mcseanNo -- didn't know to do that. That makes sense... thankfully Edubuntu has been quite easy to maintain so I have not needed to dig much into all of the ltsp commands...02:09
mcseanI've moved the i386 to i386-orig and am ltsp-build-client'ing now. Appears to be working.02:10
mcseanIn the future, after running an update on the server, what's the best process for updating the client image? Is that documented for 10.04 or is it the same as it was for previous versions?02:11
mcsean...been searching regarding above question. The only thing that I can find is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot, but it says it's specific to 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10. Is this procedure also valid for updating the chroot within 10.04?02:18
stgraberusually rebuilding is the only supported way for the chroot02:24
stgraberdist-upgrading the chroot isn't really supported02:25
mcseanstgraber: So, it's done now with the ltsp-build-client. Since I've just built it with the latest packages, do I need to do anything else? Based on what you've said, I shouldn't chroot into the image and do any updates there. I should just attempt to boot my client. Bingo....02:30
mcseanLooks like it's working!02:31
mcseanstgraber: nice -- it's working again. Thanks for your help!02:31
highvoltagestgraber ftw :)02:31
stgrabermcsean: you're welcome02:40
mcseanOne more question for tonight -- does switching to xfce make the clients more responsive?03:50
mick_laptopsomeone might want to change the /topic to - http://www.edubuntu.org/news/10.10-release :)07:04
mick_laptopis there any way to have edubuntu start w/ proprietary drivers? (the live cd)07:09
jadariteHello, anyone there?12:32
* highvoltage 12:35
highvoltage(although getting ready to leave for office)12:35
jadariteanyone willing to walk me through installation of edubuntu?12:35
highvoltagejadarite: I can give you a link to some documentation that's under construction if you'd like to test it from what's there already12:36
highvoltageif you get stuck, I should be back at the office in around 30-40 minutes12:36
jadariteok but I already tried sites12:37
jadariteI am confused about one thing12:37
jadariteat boot up12:37
jadaritethere are 2 areas12:37
jadaritedisk priority12:37
jadariteand then 1st, 2nd, and 3rd device12:37
jadaritedo I have to edit both areas?12:37
jadariteat disk priority it just hangs12:37
jadaritedo I have to wait a long time for it to install12:37
jadariteor should it instantly show some progress meter?12:38
highvoltageI guess that's the partitioning screen you're talking about? does it look almost like this but with more "areas"? http://edubuntu.org/sites/default/files/docimages/050-install-now.png12:38
jadariteno12:41
jadaritenothing loads12:41
jadaritethis is from boot of the computer12:41
jadariteblack screen12:41
jadariteI used the universal USB install12:41
jadariteprogram12:41
jadariteI selected other at the end of the list12:41
jadaritethen I just reboot the computer and select correct book device, right?12:42
highvoltagejadarite: yep12:42
highvoltagejadarite: did you write it to usb using the usb creator tool?12:43
jadaritethe creator tool is in ubuntu right?12:43
jadariteI used a program through windows12:43
jadariteI downloaded it12:43
jadariteit is something liek USB unversal installer12:44
jadariteyou load it, select the .iso to write to USB, and then you can check a box to format the USB12:44
jadariteI tried both approaches12:44
jadaritei read about installing edubuntu by installing ubuntu first.  Is this the only way?  Or can I install edubuntu directly without needing ubuntu installed first?12:47
jadariteI don't know what more I can do with the USB,  I have tried every permutation I can think of.12:51
jadariteI will see if the DVD approach works later12:51
highvoltagejadarite: yes, you can install ubuntu first13:14
jadaritebut do you have to?13:14
highvoltagenope, you don't have to13:15
jadariteI am burning a DVD now13:15
highvoltageI'm not sure about that USB disk creator program you used though.13:15
highvoltageyes I guess DVD is safest bet at this stage13:15
jadariteit will take a while because we didn't put the .iso on the hard drive13:15
jadariteso it's burning from a USB stick13:15
jadariteWe think that's why it is slow13:15
highvoltagewe should find out how and put some documentation up on the site on how to do it from Windows some time13:15
jadaritethat would be great13:17
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mick_laptophi everyone17:27
mhall119hellp17:28
mick_laptopi was thinking that it would be a cool idea to have an app that helps customized edubuntu cds17:28
mick_laptophelps create*17:28
mhall119customize them in what way?17:28
mick_laptopfor instance:17:29
mick_laptop1) include proprietary drivers by default17:29
mick_laptop2) adds other educational apps17:30
mick_laptop3) takes out the ability to install to disk17:30
mick_laptopthat type of a thing17:30
mhall119#1 I think is already an option in the new installer17:30
mick_laptopoh?17:31
mhall119#2, well what other apps would you want included?17:31
mick_laptop#2 i can make a list17:31
mhall119mick_laptop: I think so, they added a checkbox to install proprietary stuff17:31
mhall119may just be codecs17:31
mick_laptopno not to install - i mean the live cd17:31
mhall119Jockey usually handles proprietary drivers in an efficient way though17:31
mhall119oh, have them running in the live session?17:31
mick_laptopmhall119: yes17:54
mhall119I think some of the proprietary video drivers are already setup that way17:54
mhall119there's a session about Qimo going on now in #ubuntu-classroom18:02
mhall119and #ubuntu-classroom-chat18:02
mick_laptopthat was very interesting19:09

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