[01:47] <mcsean> Hi all, our teacher just accidentally upgraded our Edubuntu server to 10.04LTS and pulled the plug half-way through the update. Long story short, I now have it to the point where I'm able to put the server and login to the server. Unfortunately, I can't get my clients to boot from the server any more. I have run "ltsp-build-client", "ltsp-update-sshkeys", "ltsp-update-image", and "ltsp-update-kernels" but am still unable to boot a client. The error
[01:47] <mcsean>  I am receiving on the client is: "PXE-T02: Forbidden directory \n PXE-E3C: TFTP Error - Access violation \n PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM". On the server, I able to see that the client is requesting a DHCP lease and the server is responding...
[01:48] <mcsean> Sorry, looks like that got truncated... let me start over:
[01:48] <mcsean> Hi all, our teacher just accidentally upgraded our Edubuntu server to 10.04LTS and pulled the plug half-way through the update. Long story short, I now have it to the point where I'm able to put the server and login to the server.
[01:49] <mcsean> Unfortunately, I can't get my clients to boot from the server any more. I have run "ltsp-build-client", "ltsp-update-sshkeys", "ltsp-update-image", and "ltsp-update-kernels" but am still unable to boot a client.
[01:49] <mcsean> The error I am receiving on the client is: PXE-T02: Forbidden directory
[01:49] <mcsean> PXE-E3C: TFTP Error - Access violation
[01:49] <mcsean> PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM
[01:49] <mcsean> On the server, I able to see that the client is requesting a DHCP lease and the server is responding...
[01:50] <mcsean> with a DHCPACK, but quits after that.
[01:58] <stgraber> mcsean: tftpd is probably misconfigured
[01:58] <stgraber> mcsean: hang on a sec while I check something
[01:58] <stgraber> mcsean: what do you have in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa ?
[01:59] <mcsean> checking
[02:00] <stgraber> you sould have http://paste.ubuntu.com/511258/
[02:00] <stgraber> I know in some cases you get a different TFTP_DIRECTORY and that's causing the issue you describe
[02:00] <mcsean> ok -- I'll update it. right now, my TFTP_DIRECTORY is set to "/srv/tftp"
[02:00] <stgraber> if it's the case for you, modify it to look like what I pasted and then do: sudo restart tftpd-hpa
[02:01] <stgraber> the forbidden directory error should disappear after that
[02:02] <mcsean> Excellent... one other thing I noticed. While I was waiting for a response here, I chroot'ed into /opt/ltsp/i386 and found that it looks like hardy is still installed there. The client partially booted and then died and kicked me into a busybox shell.
[02:04] <mcsean> When chroot'ed, "cat /etc/issue" reports "Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l". I believe I saw instructions for rebuilding /opt/ltsp as I was searching today. Do I need to rebuild my ltsp client image now?
[02:06] <stgraber> you'd need to remove /opt/ltsp/i386, run ltsp-build-client, chroot and do your changes, run ltsp-update-image and finally ltsp-update-kernels (just in case)
[02:06] <stgraber> actually moving i386 is probably a better idea, just in case ;)
[02:08] <stgraber> you said before you ran ltsp-build-client, did you run it with --purge-chroot ? otherwise it wouldn't rebuild it (as /opt/ltsp/i386 already exists)
[02:09] <mcsean> No -- didn't know to do that. That makes sense... thankfully Edubuntu has been quite easy to maintain so I have not needed to dig much into all of the ltsp commands...
[02:10] <mcsean> I've moved the i386 to i386-orig and am ltsp-build-client'ing now. Appears to be working.
[02:11] <mcsean> In the future, after running an update on the server, what's the best process for updating the client image? Is that documented for 10.04 or is it the same as it was for previous versions?
[02:18] <mcsean> ...been searching regarding above question. The only thing that I can find is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot, but it says it's specific to 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, and 9.10. Is this procedure also valid for updating the chroot within 10.04?
[02:24] <stgraber> usually rebuilding is the only supported way for the chroot
[02:25] <stgraber> dist-upgrading the chroot isn't really supported
[02:30] <mcsean> stgraber: So, it's done now with the ltsp-build-client. Since I've just built it with the latest packages, do I need to do anything else? Based on what you've said, I shouldn't chroot into the image and do any updates there. I should just attempt to boot my client. Bingo....
[02:31] <mcsean> Looks like it's working!
[02:31] <mcsean> stgraber: nice -- it's working again. Thanks for your help!
[02:31] <highvoltage> stgraber ftw :)
[02:40] <stgraber> mcsean: you're welcome
[03:50] <mcsean> One more question for tonight -- does switching to xfce make the clients more responsive?
[07:04] <mick_laptop> someone might want to change the /topic to - http://www.edubuntu.org/news/10.10-release :)
[07:09] <mick_laptop> is there any way to have edubuntu start w/ proprietary drivers? (the live cd)
[12:32] <jadarite> Hello, anyone there?
[12:35]  * highvoltage 
[12:35] <highvoltage> (although getting ready to leave for office)
[12:35] <jadarite> anyone willing to walk me through installation of edubuntu?
[12:36] <highvoltage> jadarite: I can give you a link to some documentation that's under construction if you'd like to test it from what's there already
[12:36] <highvoltage> if you get stuck, I should be back at the office in around 30-40 minutes
[12:37] <jadarite> ok but I already tried sites
[12:37] <jadarite> I am confused about one thing
[12:37] <jadarite> at boot up
[12:37] <jadarite> there are 2 areas
[12:37] <jadarite> disk priority
[12:37] <jadarite> and then 1st, 2nd, and 3rd device
[12:37] <jadarite> do I have to edit both areas?
[12:37] <jadarite> at disk priority it just hangs
[12:37] <jadarite> do I have to wait a long time for it to install
[12:38] <jadarite> or should it instantly show some progress meter?
[12:38] <highvoltage> I guess that's the partitioning screen you're talking about? does it look almost like this but with more "areas"? http://edubuntu.org/sites/default/files/docimages/050-install-now.png
[12:41] <jadarite> no
[12:41] <jadarite> nothing loads
[12:41] <jadarite> this is from boot of the computer
[12:41] <jadarite> black screen
[12:41] <jadarite> I used the universal USB install
[12:41] <jadarite> program
[12:41] <jadarite> I selected other at the end of the list
[12:42] <jadarite> then I just reboot the computer and select correct book device, right?
[12:42] <highvoltage> jadarite: yep
[12:43] <highvoltage> jadarite: did you write it to usb using the usb creator tool?
[12:43] <jadarite> the creator tool is in ubuntu right?
[12:43] <jadarite> I used a program through windows
[12:43] <jadarite> I downloaded it
[12:44] <jadarite> it is something liek USB unversal installer
[12:44] <jadarite> you load it, select the .iso to write to USB, and then you can check a box to format the USB
[12:44] <jadarite> I tried both approaches
[12:47] <jadarite> i read about installing edubuntu by installing ubuntu first.  Is this the only way?  Or can I install edubuntu directly without needing ubuntu installed first?
[12:51] <jadarite> I don't know what more I can do with the USB,  I have tried every permutation I can think of.
[12:51] <jadarite> I will see if the DVD approach works later
[13:14] <highvoltage> jadarite: yes, you can install ubuntu first
[13:14] <jadarite> but do you have to?
[13:15] <highvoltage> nope, you don't have to
[13:15] <jadarite> I am burning a DVD now
[13:15] <highvoltage> I'm not sure about that USB disk creator program you used though.
[13:15] <highvoltage> yes I guess DVD is safest bet at this stage
[13:15] <jadarite> it will take a while because we didn't put the .iso on the hard drive
[13:15] <jadarite> so it's burning from a USB stick
[13:15] <jadarite> We think that's why it is slow
[13:15] <highvoltage> we should find out how and put some documentation up on the site on how to do it from Windows some time
[13:17] <jadarite> that would be great
[17:27] <mick_laptop> hi everyone
[17:28] <mhall119> hellp
[17:28] <mick_laptop> i was thinking that it would be a cool idea to have an app that helps customized edubuntu cds
[17:28] <mick_laptop> helps create*
[17:28] <mhall119> customize them in what way?
[17:29] <mick_laptop> for instance:
[17:29] <mick_laptop> 1) include proprietary drivers by default
[17:30] <mick_laptop> 2) adds other educational apps
[17:30] <mick_laptop> 3) takes out the ability to install to disk
[17:30] <mick_laptop> that type of a thing
[17:30] <mhall119> #1 I think is already an option in the new installer
[17:31] <mick_laptop> oh?
[17:31] <mhall119> #2, well what other apps would you want included?
[17:31] <mick_laptop> #2 i can make a list
[17:31] <mhall119> mick_laptop: I think so, they added a checkbox to install proprietary stuff
[17:31] <mhall119> may just be codecs
[17:31] <mick_laptop> no not to install - i mean the live cd
[17:31] <mhall119> Jockey usually handles proprietary drivers in an efficient way though
[17:31] <mhall119> oh, have them running in the live session?
[17:54] <mick_laptop> mhall119: yes
[17:54] <mhall119> I think some of the proprietary video drivers are already setup that way
[18:02] <mhall119> there's a session about Qimo going on now in #ubuntu-classroom
[18:02] <mhall119> and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[19:09] <mick_laptop> that was very interesting