[00:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: Package: project-neon-kdegraphics misses shlib deps
[00:33] <Riddell> but otherwise works stunningly well
[00:34] <Riddell> Quintasan: we should really big up this project neon, it's awesome
[00:34] <Riddell> how often do packages get rebuilt?
[03:10] <JontheEchidna> bleh @ #ubuntu+1 redirect
[04:52] <ScottK> rdieter_work: I don't recall if you found our patch to disable the experimental ARB_fragment_shader in mesa.  Turns out it's a trivial patch.  Here it is in case you didn't get it sorted already: isable the experimental ARB_fragment_shader
[04:52] <ScottK> oops
[04:52] <ScottK> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/mesa/maverick/annotate/head:/debian/patches/104_i915_fragment_shader_disable.patch
[04:52] <ScottK> There it is.
[08:24] <afiestas__> Riddell: yes, sorry for that :( (the catalog bug) 
[09:21] <apachelogger>  kword : Depends: koffice-libs (>= 1:2.2.82-0ubuntu1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:21] <apachelogger>          Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.5.2a) but 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed
[09:21] <apachelogger> kaboom
[09:21] <apachelogger> ...someone did a bogus build...
[10:17]  * apachelogger broke his system while trying to find the cause of a freeze -.-
[10:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: oh, btw, about that weird paintaing bug I was talking about the other day .... it seems my most favorite browser of them all is causing it
[10:18] <apachelogger> I can reproduce it every time by having rekonq as active window, switch to VT and back
[10:19] <apachelogger> of course that still doesnt rule out a bug in the driver
[10:19]  * apachelogger notes that mav's X has made nothing but trouble for apachelogger
[10:30] <apachelogger> oh
[10:30] <apachelogger> I did wrong
[10:30] <apachelogger> raster seems to be at fault
[10:30] <apachelogger> however I am not entirely sure how it plays into that
[10:31] <apachelogger> FTR: it also happens with arora
[11:02] <apachelogger> hm
[11:03] <apachelogger> seems something makes rekonq run against a wall and hit its head so badly that it does not work no more
[11:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: erm, i uploaded koffice packages, installed fine for me
[11:41] <shadeslayer> and lex verfied the packaging
[11:41] <apachelogger> sure if you happen to have 4.5.2a installed :P
[11:42] <shadeslayer> what do you have? 4.5.1 ?
[11:42] <shadeslayer> ah
[11:42] <shadeslayer> ohh
[11:42] <shadeslayer>  libkio5 (>= 4:4.5.2a)
[11:42] <shadeslayer> also, passport dispatched from embassy \o/
[11:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ive lost my packaging foo :(
[11:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did you fix or should i upload a update?
[11:46] <apachelogger> please upload
[11:46] <shadeslayer> ok
[11:52] <shadeslayer> oh oh oh 
[11:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i think ive found the code you mentioned http://pastebin.com/Qw24X8vR
[11:52] <shadeslayer> thats it right?
[11:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: does it do what you want to do? ;)
[11:55] <shadeslayer> idk im looking at what it does ... then code it into rekonq
[11:56] <shadeslayer> also... i have no idea why clicking a link in rekonq opens up konqueror -.-
[11:56] <Riddell> hi ROSHA, thanks for doing the last-minute banner on sunday
[11:57] <ROSHA> Riddell: your welcome :)
[11:57] <Riddell> ROSHA: if you're looking for artwork to help with we have a bunch of web pages that need updating, e.g. the wiki.kubuntu.org theme or the release pages or shipit all need updated with new logo and matching our website (http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/maverick/)
[12:02] <ROSHA> Riddell: sure...
[12:03] <ROSHA> Riddell: im working on it tonight :)
[12:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: konqueror wont start apturl when i type apt:rekonq in url bar
[12:17] <shadeslayer> same error as yesterday.. the %u thing
[12:18] <shadeslayer> and when i added http://pastebin.com/gjuFLnta to rekonq, same error pops
[12:18] <shadeslayer> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:klauncher said: Error loading 'apturl %u'.
[12:21] <shadeslayer> well it works ... rekonq can now handle magnet links, but still have ^
[12:22] <apachelogger> works here
[12:23] <shadeslayer> and now rekonq puts ftp handling to dolphin
[12:23] <shadeslayer> which is awesome
[12:24] <shadeslayer> hmm.. ive made alot of code redundant in rekonq i think using those 3 lines, i just lost file browser handling
[12:25] <shadeslayer> something is wrong in my system
[12:25] <shadeslayer> bbiab
[12:26] <Riddell> 4000 unread e-mails to go
[12:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hmm what could be wrong?
[12:30] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[12:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/3MNOAlLt.html
[12:32] <apachelogger> kbunny is a different story
[12:32] <apachelogger> ...
[12:32] <shadeslayer> meh .. stupid rekonq/konqueror
[13:03] <sheytan> Hey
[13:03] <sheytan> Will we have something like in Ubuntu for testing 5.1/7.1 spearkers systems?
[13:04] <sheytan> same thing is for kmix. Before maverick i had sliders for all of my speakers (front, side, center, etc)
[13:04] <sheytan> now i've only got one ;D
[13:08] <Riddell> sheytan: yes, it's in KDE Platform 4.6
[13:09] <sheytan> Riddell cool, thank you :)
[13:18] <Riddell> 3000 unread e-mails to go!
[13:22]  * Nightrose notes that Riddell can handle about 1000 emails in 1h
[13:22] <Nightrose> impressive
[13:22] <Riddell> when I do get round to reading them I'm fast :)
[13:22] <Nightrose> ;-)
[14:10]  * apachelogger gave up reading mails
[14:10] <apachelogger> they just keep on coming it is sort of depressing
[14:11] <Riddell> that's why I've resorted to batch processing
[14:12] <dasKreech> Select all -> delete
[14:13]  * Riddell down to 1000 unread e-mails!
[14:17] <Quintasan> Riddell: well, sorry for late response, school etc.
[14:17] <Quintasan> Riddell: I was planning to get it rebuilt every week or two
[14:17] <Quintasan> daily rebuilds are too much I think
[14:26] <Riddell> Quintasan: how does a rebuilt get triggered?
[14:27] <Quintasan> Riddell: I think we need to trigger it
[14:27] <Quintasan> I set it to build weekly but I usually forget the revision number -_-
[14:28] <Quintasan> We will have builds for two most recent releases
[14:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: any idea how to write a funtion in zsh to execute bzr pull for each directory in work/*?
[14:42] <al> for i in work/*; do pushd "$i" && bzr pull; popd; done
[14:42]  * apachelogger hands Quintasana phonon
[14:43] <al> s,\*,*/,
[14:46] <Quintasan> apachelogger: why are you giving me a phonon?
[14:46] <Quintasan> I already have one
[14:48] <apachelogger> got to much phonon in my arse, quite the pain...
[15:11] <sheytan> IDEA: make java independent from firefox for kubuntu 11.04 :)
[15:12] <yofel> what does java have to do with firefox?
[15:47] <apachelogger> who was whining to me about amarok randomly stopping playback with phonon-vlc?
[17:19] <nixternal> open source software sucks! it isn't any more secure than proprietary software! free software really isn't free!
[17:19] <nixternal> these are the 3 things I heard on my recent interview with an amazing company
[17:26] <Riddell> gosh, time to give up on the whole freedom thing then
[17:27] <nixternal> hehe, right
[17:27] <nixternal> how can someone read my resume, then have the balls to talk trash like that?
[17:27] <nixternal> i think they were trying to see how my temper was. i controlled it
[17:27] <nixternal> but what they didn't see, was me keying their cars in the parking lot and slashing their tires :p
[17:34] <nigelb> nixternal: o.O seriously?
[17:34] <nigelb> anyway, now the internets know you did it :p
[17:44] <nixternal> that's why I don't support public channel logging :D
[18:07] <debfx> apachelogger: I complained about that a few months ago
[18:07] <apachelogger> fix0red
[18:08] <debfx> oh, nice :)
[18:57] <shadeslayer> ok so i have a EC2 server for a hour, do you guys want to do anything ? :D
[19:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i just upload with version bump and it builds against 4.5.1 right?
[19:22] <shadeslayer> ( koffice )
[19:41]  * shadeslayer runs around skreaming
[19:41] <shadeslayer> X is taking 40 %
[19:41] <shadeslayer> why doesnt it just kill my system -.-
[19:41] <apachelogger> of what?
[19:42] <apachelogger> the universe?
[19:42] <apachelogger> our lifes?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> my system 
[19:42] <apachelogger> oh
[19:42] <shadeslayer> CPU time ofcourse
[19:42] <apachelogger> I was scared for my soul there for a moment
[19:43] <apachelogger> that was promised to someone in exchange for supremacy
[19:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: question on koffice still pending
[19:44] <apachelogger> yes
[19:44] <apachelogger> no
[19:44] <apachelogger> maybe
[19:44] <apachelogger> surely
[19:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://10.cloud.ubuntu.com/ : see that as well
[19:45] <apachelogger> is it pr0n?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> yes
[19:45] <apachelogger> misrenders
[19:46] <apachelogger> oh wellz
[19:46] <apachelogger> looks boring
[19:46]  * apachelogger continues doing fun things
[19:47] <shadeslayer> i wonder what happens to my instance when pbuilder is building a package 
[19:48] <apachelogger> what instance?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ive uploaded a new version, it should build against 4.5.1
[19:48] <shadeslayer> EC2 instance
[19:48] <apachelogger> that reminds me, I need to do my object oriented design stuff things
[19:48] <shadeslayer> i have 5 mins left :P
[19:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I have so no idea what EC2 is
[19:48] <apachelogger> must be boring stuff too
[19:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
[19:49] <apachelogger> the short version?
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Elastic Compute Cloud
[19:49] <apachelogger> that sounds like seriuosly weird pr0n
[19:49] <apachelogger> anyhow
[19:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do you have to pay for that?
[19:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: canonical is footing the bill for one hour
[19:50] <shadeslayer> so you get a EC2 machine for one hour right now.. absolutely free
[19:50] <apachelogger> for what?
[19:50] <apachelogger> I mean
[19:50] <apachelogger> where are they going with that?
[19:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's just a taster session
[19:51] <shadeslayer> trial if you may say :)
[19:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: in the hope that when you start to use EC2 for real stuff you'll use ubuntu on it
[19:51] <apachelogger> ah
[19:51] <Riddell> and at 0.08USD an hour, it's costing canonical too much :)
[19:51] <shadeslayer> oic this is what happens : Broadcast message from root@domU-12-31-39-07-89-F2
[19:51] <shadeslayer> (unknown) at 18:51 ... The system is going down for power off NOW! Connection to 184.73.83.250 closed by remote host.
[19:52] <Riddell> it's not costing..
[19:52] <apachelogger> EC2 is 0.08/hour :O
[19:53] <Riddell> I used it for building much of 4.5.2, cost about $2 in total for a day's use of several machines
[19:54] <apachelogger> I see
[20:15] <sheytan> yofel you can't install java without firefox
[20:19] <shadeslayer> sheytan: you can..
[20:19] <shadeslayer> i have
[20:19] <shadeslayer> use openjdk ?
[20:19] <sheytan> shadeslayer will it work in rekonq/chrome/
[20:19] <sheytan> ?
[20:19] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:21] <shadeslayer> sheytan: http://imagebin.ca/view/ybtWtH3s.html
[20:21] <shadeslayer> i so hate kde right now
[20:22] <apachelogger> oho
[20:22]  * apachelogger is pretty sure sheytan wants to make some kubuntu presentation template thing stuff foo rainbow unicorn
[20:22] <shadeslayer> whenever i open rekonq chrome opens a tab with /var/cache/kde/foo url
[20:23] <Tscheesy> apachelogger: any news at the kubuntu-docs - Front ?
[20:23] <sheytan> apachelogger more info please :)
[20:23] <apachelogger> Tscheesy: was there news expected?
[20:23] <sheytan> shadeslayer removing firefox wants to install 40 packages :D
[20:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw how do you check if a KUrl is pointing to a local dir/file ?
[20:23] <Tscheesy> hm-- in lucid yes.. nowadays not anymore
[20:23] <shadeslayer> sheytan: lol
[20:24] <apachelogger> sheytan: you know a presentation design thing one can use for kubuntu presentations
[20:24] <apachelogger> sheytan: surely there is something isLocalish()
[20:24] <apachelogger> eh
[20:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[20:24] <Tscheesy> apachelogger: users missing the l18n for kubuntu-docs
[20:24] <sheytan> shadeslayer http://pastebin.com/rR2Egw2z
[20:24] <apachelogger> Tscheesy: uh, dunno, you should talk to dpm about that I suppose
[20:25] <sheytan> apachelogger well, i start my new job tomorrow, so i can't promisse i'll finish it in this week ;)
[20:25] <apachelogger> sure, whenever you get to it....
[20:25] <shadeslayer> sheytan: what language is that in :D
[20:25] <shadeslayer> ok i can read what it wants to install tho
[20:26] <sheytan> shadeslayer polish, the first one says 'to remove' 2nd- 'to install' ;)
[20:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: klingon
[20:26] <apachelogger> :P
[20:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hahaha
[20:26]  * apachelogger totally would digg a klingon version of kubuntu
[20:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you mean http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=xx-klingon
[20:26] <shadeslayer> and http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=xx-klingon#hl=xx-klingon&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=756&q=Kubuntu&btnG=GoogleDaq+yInej&fp=ae59aff5dacbc858
[20:26] <Tscheesy> apachelogger: i expect it a general problem
[20:27] <apachelogger> Tscheesy: that is why you should poke dpm about it
[20:27]  * apachelogger is not really involved with docs translations foo
[20:27] <shadeslayer> sheytan: meh... gnomey stuff 
[20:27] <apachelogger> gnome?
[20:27] <shadeslayer> look at how they name their libraries ... libsoup
[20:27] <sheytan> shadeslayer can i get rid of it?
[20:28] <shadeslayer> sheytan: if apt-get wants to install them, i wouldnt
[20:28] <apachelogger> http://www.lubasf.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/gnome.jpg
[20:28] <sheytan> shadeslayer apt-get wants too
[20:28] <sheytan> ;//
[20:28] <shadeslayer> now why would it want to install gnome-doc-utils 
[20:30]  * apachelogger just finished repairs on his space ship
[20:30] <apachelogger> hooray
[20:30] <apachelogger> \o/
[20:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what does it run on?
[20:30] <shadeslayer> Plasma? :D
[20:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if it were that would have explained why it broke down ... :P
[20:31] <shadeslayer> ;P
[20:31] <shadeslayer> whee krunner froze
[20:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: aha! pinotree says my issue is a known regression
[20:37] <apachelogger> who is regressing?
[20:37] <shadeslayer> KDE
[20:37] <apachelogger> omg!
[20:37] <apachelogger> why are they doing that
[20:37] <shadeslayer> no idea :P
[20:37] <apachelogger> silly
[20:37] <apachelogger> also I have no idea what you are talking about
[20:37] <apachelogger> are we still talking about space ship engines?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253414
[20:38] <shadeslayer> my stupid browser issue
[20:38] <apachelogger> ah
[20:38] <apachelogger> ic
[20:38] <apachelogger> well, see, it works for me :P
[20:38] <shadeslayer> you have 4.5.1
[20:38] <apachelogger> good thing we did not deploy with 4.5.2
[20:38] <apachelogger> :P
[20:38] <shadeslayer> thats why
[20:39] <shadeslayer> heh... 
[20:39] <apachelogger> we should introduce a deploy-like-debian-policy
[20:39] <apachelogger> KDE 3.2.1 would have been more than suitable for maverick :P
[20:39] <shadeslayer> well.. i wouldnt go THAT far
[20:39] <shadeslayer> svn commit 1183317
[20:40] <shadeslayer> ill patch our packages
[20:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any idea where opensuse keeps its patches and such?
[20:54] <apachelogger> OBS
[20:55] <Riddell> which is always a faff to navigate
[20:55] <Riddell> but maybe they think the same about launchpad
[20:56] <apachelogger> actually OBS is much nicer to navigate once you got the idea
[20:56] <Riddell> can't say I've ever worked it out
[20:56]  * shadeslayer has no idea of OBS
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: first hit on a search for kdelibs https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kdelibs&project=home%3Ariddell
[20:57] <shadeslayer> :>
[20:57] <shadeslayer> and the 4-5 hit is : https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=amarok-nightly-kdelibs&project=home%3Aapachelogger
[20:57] <Riddell> some long lost attempt to work out how to use it :)
[20:58] <apachelogger> well, you google for opensuse factory build service project
[20:58] <apachelogger> that should probably have an appropriate link somewhere
[20:58] <apachelogger> once on the project package you for example go to packages and there you just need to search to find all their current packages in the repo
[20:59] <Riddell> https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=kdelibs4&project=openSUSE%3AFactory
[20:59] <apachelogger> you end up there and there you just go to the source files tab
[20:59] <apachelogger> voila
[20:59] <apachelogger> if you want the history that is the tab next to it
[20:59] <apachelogger> and so forth
[20:59] <Riddell> it helps that you don't have to log in first nowadays
[20:59]  * apachelogger really finds OBS a much more coherent product for distribution development
[21:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, that was rather inconvenient :)
[21:01] <shadeslayer> hmm.. no patches that fix the krun issue
[21:02] <shadeslayer> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253414 and http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253294 
[21:02] <shadeslayer> those should give me 2 patches, but i only have one
[21:02] <shadeslayer> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.5/kdelibs/kio/kio/krun.cpp?r1=1172681&r2=1183317&pathrev=1183317
[21:02]  * apachelogger sings wrong
[21:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why two patches?
[21:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pinotree said that there are 2 patches that fix that issue
[21:03] <shadeslayer> the one im having in 4.5.1
[21:03] <shadeslayer> erm
[21:03] <shadeslayer> 4.5.2
 known regression, ask your distro to backport the two fixes in their packages
[21:04] <shadeslayer> and then i got pointed to kde bug 253414
[21:05] <apachelogger> I am not sure I follow
[21:05] <apachelogger> but oh well
[21:05] <apachelogger> https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=4_5_BRANCH.diff&package=kdelibs4&project=KDE%3ADistro%3AFactory&srcmd5=d1a8becf68fb73323a40d5f5b366d4ae
[21:05] <apachelogger> somewhere in there
[21:06] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ca/1960358 ?
[21:06] <shadeslayer> just those 2 things?
[21:07] <apachelogger> ask dfaure?
[21:08] <sheytan> shadeslayer i saw your shot and the ubuntu font looks way better then for me. Can i see your settings?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> sheytan: huh?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> which shot?
[21:11] <sheytan> shadeslayer yesterday, a screenshot you showed of the 'open with' dialog window
[21:11] <sheytan> and the font looks better for you :D
[21:11] <shadeslayer> ohh
[21:12] <shadeslayer> everything is default here
[21:12] <sheytan> shadeslayer, well, mine should be too, but it looks different
[21:13] <shadeslayer> no idea what im supposed to give you here :P
[21:13] <shadeslayer> everything is default
[21:13] <sheytan> shadeslayer a screenshot of your settings please :D
[21:14] <shadeslayer> sheytan: http://imagebin.ca/view/0-TxAM5.html
[21:15] <shadeslayer> how do i check if a KUrl points to a local dir/file?
[21:16] <sheytan> shadeslayer :( have the same and it looks different ;/
[21:17] <sheytan> shadeslayer http://i.imgur.com/Xl4ja.png
[21:17] <shadeslayer> sheytan: pastebin .fonts.conf
[21:18] <sheytan> shadeslayer http://pastebin.com/Zvc8HjJY
[21:19] <shadeslayer> sheytan: line 16, change to    <const>hintslight</const>
[21:25] <sheytan> shadeslayer nothing changed
[21:25] <shadeslayer> sheytan: did you restart?
[21:25] <sheytan> shadeslayer yes
[21:25] <shadeslayer> hmm.. no idea then
[21:26] <shadeslayer> try chaning to hintmedium
[21:26] <shadeslayer> maybe it helps
[21:26] <sheytan> ill try ;)
[21:26] <sheytan> thank you :)
[21:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how do you check if a KUrl is a local file?
[21:30] <trichard> hello, some yawp data engines don't work with KDE4.5 anymore. I noticed there's a new version on kde-look which says it fixes this problem. Is there any chance we can get this in kubuntu 10.10?
[21:30] <trichard> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-yawp/+bug/636338
[21:33] <shadeslayer> fix uploaded for my own issue :P
[21:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: rekonq patch review : http://pastebin.com/XhLrkrEY