| phillw | !topic | phillw | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ubot5 | phillw, please see my private message | 00:00 |
| phillw | !lxterminal | phillw | 00:02 |
| ubot5 | phillw, please see my private message | 00:02 |
| phillw | oooh, that's pretty darn cool | 00:03 |
| giampiero | Hello | 00:05 |
| phillw | hiyas giampiero | 00:06 |
| giampiero | I have a problem with both Aqualung and Gnome Mplayer, is it the place to ask? | 00:09 |
| phillw | giampiero: depends on the problem, I'll help if I can. | 00:10 |
| giampiero | Aqualung crackles when a song is played. I tried to re-install, but it didn't work. Any suggestions? | 00:12 |
| phillw | giampiero: I've seen it mentioned in passing through the forum areas, let me have a look for you to see if there is a resolution. I'll be a couple of minutes. | 00:13 |
| phillw | giampiero: cannot really see anything of note, can you tell me which version of lubuntu and also aqualung you are using. | 00:19 |
| giampiero | Lubuntu 10.10 Aqualung 0.9 | 00:22 |
| phillw | giampiero: I'll ask on the mailing list, there has been no reports of problems. 10.10 is new so there may be an issue with Aqualung, are you familiar with installing software? | 00:29 |
| giampiero | I think so | 00:29 |
| phillw | Some of us use deadbeef for audio, it's not in the official repos so we cannot include it. https://launchpad.net/~alexey-smirnov/+archive/deadbeef | 00:31 |
| phillw | it's a pretty mean little audio player. | 00:31 |
| giampiero | Thank you, i'll give it a try | 00:32 |
| zebastianortis | where do i regulate the brightness of the monitor in lubuntu | 01:43 |
| zebastianortis | cant seem to find it | 01:43 |
| zebastianortis | theres no power management in my preferences menu | 01:51 |
| Mossyfunk1 | how do I get non free stuff like flash player to work with lubuntu? can't find any restricted extras package and the direct install from adobe as never worked for me | 04:51 |
| bioterror | sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree | 04:51 |
| bioterror | if I remember right | 04:51 |
| bioterror | you can try to complete the flash<tab> ;) | 04:51 |
| bioterror | or was it flashplugin-nonfree | 04:52 |
| bioterror | apt-cache search nonfree | 04:52 |
| bioterror | :-) | 04:52 |
| bioterror | flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package) | 04:53 |
| bioterror | says my Linux Mint | 04:53 |
| Mossyfunk1 | awesome ty bioterror | 04:53 |
| bioterror | np, mate :-) | 04:53 |
| bioterror | you might also want to deinstall openjdk and use sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin | 04:54 |
| bioterror | oh, clock is already that much | 04:55 |
| bioterror | should I go or should I stay | 04:55 |
| Mossyfunk1 | too many clocks! | 04:55 |
| bioterror | Mossyfunk1, how's the spring in australia? | 04:55 |
| Mossyfunk1 | depends where you are | 04:56 |
| Mossyfunk1 | beautiful mostly =) | 04:56 |
| bioterror | I bet | 04:56 |
| bioterror | I've got a dream to visit your wonderland, but it's so far away | 04:56 |
| Mossyfunk1 | I'm sure I would have much more fun in the garden today than inside attempting to undo these horror screws in my HP laptop | 04:56 |
| bioterror | 13500km :-) | 04:56 |
| Mossyfunk1 | you in europe? | 04:57 |
| bioterror | yeah | 04:57 |
| Mossyfunk1 | ahhh cool | 04:57 |
| Mossyfunk1 | hehe i got a dream to visit yours tbh | 04:57 |
| bioterror | well, we don't have kengurus, koalas and the the most akward animal of them all: Platypus | 04:58 |
| Mossyfunk1 | haha | 04:58 |
| Mossyfunk1 | I see em every day nearly | 04:58 |
| Mossyfunk1 | we have kangaroos in our front yard grazing | 04:58 |
| bioterror | oh | 04:58 |
| Mossyfunk1 | but I live very close to bush | 04:58 |
| bioterror | and I've seen videos about blue ringed octopus too! | 04:59 |
| Mossyfunk1 | yeah haha | 04:59 |
| Mossyfunk1 | we got some dangerous ones | 04:59 |
| bioterror | yeah | 04:59 |
| bioterror | your desert is full of dangerous snakes and scorpios :- | 04:59 |
| bioterror | :-) | 05:00 |
| Mossyfunk1 | this country is heady WAY too conservative for my liking | 05:00 |
| Mossyfunk1 | the liberals are none too liberal, and labour are all coset neocons haha | 05:00 |
| bioterror | might be, becouse you're technically british :D | 05:00 |
| Mossyfunk1 | I'm coming from english/french and irish migrangts | 05:01 |
| Mossyfunk1 | why would they make the screws so whacky? wtf. | 05:02 |
| bioterror | :) | 05:02 |
| Mossyfunk1 | can't even get the cd drive out | 05:02 |
| Mossyfunk1 | bastards trying to lock people in | 05:02 |
| * phillw please use #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat | 05:03 | |
| Mossyfunk1 | and I BET when I reach the cpu theres like 5mm thick of goop on the cpu making it overheat | 05:03 |
| Mossyfunk1 | oops | 05:03 |
| Mossyfunk1 | srry phillw forgot | 05:03 |
| bioterror | phillw, oh, sorry :) | 05:05 |
| * phillw it's not a problem, but makes it more difficult for people searching the logs :) | 05:05 | |
| bioterror | I didnt expect phill could be up this early ;) | 05:06 |
| bioterror | Mossyfunk1, the flash is working now? | 05:07 |
| phillw | bioterror: I am a lurker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker) | 05:07 |
| Mossyfunk1 | nope... didn't work | 05:07 |
| bioterror | should work if you restart your browser | 05:08 |
| bioterror | gotta hit the train station | 05:08 |
| bioterror | laters | 05:08 |
| phillw | tc bioterror | 05:09 |
| Mossyfunk1 | seeya | 05:10 |
| semitones_tea | is there a 10.10 lubuntu? | 05:12 |
| phillw | semitones_tea: yes | 05:13 |
| phillw | head down to 'get lubuntu' at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu please use a torrent. | 05:15 |
| === semitones_tea is now known as semitones_cereal | ||
| phillw | wb semitones_cereal | 05:22 |
| semitones_cereal | :) was i _cereal before once? | 05:24 |
| phillw | !topic | semitones_cereal | 05:30 |
| ubot5 | semitones_cereal: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 05:30 |
| semitones_cereal | what does wb mean? | 05:31 |
| semitones_cereal | welcome back right> | 05:31 |
| phillw | yep | 05:32 |
| semitones_cereal | oh i see, 10.10 is in the topic lol woops | 05:33 |
| phillw | is no problem, I am one of the documentors for the lubuntu, so I do I do try to keep it all up to date :) | 05:35 |
| semitones_cereal | cool :) one problem i notice with ubuntu | 05:35 |
| semitones_cereal | is google searches usually return old out of date documentation and forum archives | 05:36 |
| phillw | that's a google problem, we do have people within the community working like heck to keep our pages updated, I got that annoyed I hosted a class room and did all the notes for http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=119 | 05:40 |
| semitones_cereal | kk | 05:40 |
| dan__ | Hello =D | 10:22 |
| === dan__ is now known as Mossyfunk1 | ||
| Mossyfunk1 | thats betta =) | 10:25 |
| Mossyfunk1 | How can I make the quicksearch work in synaptic gui? | 10:25 |
| j_lundberg | does it need apt-xapian-index installed? | 10:28 |
| Mossyfunk1 | no idea | 10:39 |
| Mossyfunk1 | i'll install it | 10:39 |
| Mossyfunk1 | Whats a good media manager like Amarok for LXDE? | 11:19 |
| j_lundberg | I like the standard ubuntus rhythmbox, but don't know your needs | 11:21 |
| Mossyfunk1 | well fixed a friends laptop and decided to replace vista while I was at it >_> | 11:22 |
| Mossyfunk1 | he not great with computers just points and clicks just need a itunes replacement for ipod (not iphone and doesn't need store or any of that crap) | 11:23 |
| Mossyfunk1 | while remaining with the lightweightawesomeness that is lubuntu | 11:24 |
| j_lundberg | rhytmbox isn't super lightweight but should have pretty good ipod support | 11:26 |
| j_lundberg | if you install it with -- | 11:28 |
| j_lundberg | no-install-recommends its a bit smaller | 11:28 |
| Mossyfunk1 | you get your name from office space? | 11:28 |
| j_lundberg | real name :) | 11:29 |
| Mossyfunk1 | ahh ok | 11:29 |
| Mossyfunk1 | thought I remembered it from a movie | 11:29 |
| Mossyfunk1 | Rhythmbox seems pretty good for what he needs | 11:44 |
| Mossyfunk1 | How can I make it so when I plug in a storage device I get an icon on the desktop for it? | 11:44 |
| j_lundberg | don't know how to get desktop icons from automount | 12:01 |
| Mossyfunk1 | =( | 12:02 |
| Mossyfunk1 | Is there any difference between upgrade to 10.10 and fresh install? I like stuff to be clean >_> | 12:03 |
| j_lundberg | it is often a question of keeping old configurations, sometimes you want this sometimes you don't | 12:08 |
| Mossyfunk1 | hmmm I think I want a clean install | 12:12 |
| tlir | ello | 13:48 |
| buffcns2 | is lubuntu a lighter windows manager than normal ubunut's gnome? | 13:56 |
| szczur | yeah, much lighter | 13:56 |
| buffcns2 | oh ok, better than xubuntu too? | 13:57 |
| bioterror | depends | 13:57 |
| bioterror | lubuntu is about decission | 13:57 |
| bioterror | decissions | 13:57 |
| buffcns2 | I'm all for that | 13:58 |
| bioterror | things are done differently and tools might be a little more from stone age, but you get your things done and you have speed | 13:58 |
| buffcns2 | is ubuntu much different from ubuntu with lxde window manager installed? | 14:03 |
| bioterror | yes | 14:03 |
| bioterror | lubuntu comes without gnome packages | 14:03 |
| buffcns2 | ok | 14:04 |
| bioterror | gnome = heavy | 14:04 |
| bioterror | :) | 14:04 |
| buffcns2 | but even if it's not loaded? | 14:04 |
| buffcns2 | does lubuntu use it's ownder graphical login manager or gdm? | 14:05 |
| buffcns2 | *own | 14:05 |
| bioterror | should use lxdm | 14:05 |
| buffcns2 | ok, might just take a peak at lxde first | 14:06 |
| buffcns2 | be back soon....... hopefully | 14:07 |
| buffcns2 | back | 14:08 |
| buffcns2 | does lubuntu have lighter applications for web/email? | 14:12 |
| bioterror | yes | 14:12 |
| bioterror | firefox -> chromium | 14:12 |
| bioterror | thunderbird/evince -> sylpheed | 14:13 |
| buffcns2 | I think I have a new love | 14:13 |
| bioterror | hope that love lasts | 14:13 |
| buffcns2 | I normaly use evolution in gnome | 14:14 |
| bioterror | ahhh yes, s/evince/evolution/ ;) | 14:15 |
| bioterror | cant remember all applications that starts with E | 14:15 |
| bioterror | envice was for the pdf | 14:15 |
| bioterror | and actually, lubuntu uses it too | 14:15 |
| buffcns2 | ok so lubuntu packages the lighter apps as well? | 14:19 |
| bioterror | yes | 14:19 |
| bioterror | you dont have to have that newest and fastest computer with dual fysical cpus which both has 8 cores ;) | 14:19 |
| buffcns2 | so this old socket 478 celeron 2.8Ghz with 1.5Ghz cpu will be like lightning | 14:19 |
| bioterror | I bet it will be | 14:19 |
| buffcns2 | *1.5Gb ram rather | 14:20 |
| buffcns2 | I like the sound of that | 14:20 |
| gendoikari1 | hi everybody, ive got a fast question that the wiki doesnt anwser clearly | 14:20 |
| buffcns2 | one more qestion bioterror , default or lightweither irc client installed? | 14:20 |
| bioterror | buffcns2, I use ssh to my virtual server and I use weechat ;) | 14:21 |
| gendoikari1 | is libxml2 the standard xml parser used by lubuntu? | 14:21 |
| buffcns2 | that's ok, i know my way arround irssi too | 14:21 |
| gendoikari1 | nobody knows? | 14:23 |
| bioterror | I have to raise hands up and say I dunno | 14:24 |
| buffcns2 | I'm new in here | 14:24 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| gendoikari1 | mmm im going to write a simple configurator for lubuntu shortcuts, and i want to use as many standard lubuntu library as possibile | 14:25 |
| gendoikari1 | as it said in development tips | 14:25 |
| bioterror | you could ask about that from the mailing list, gendoikari1 | 14:26 |
| gendoikari1 | i think i'll do it | 14:26 |
| bioterror | there's alot of knowledge too | 14:27 |
| thorlap | wubi : no install for lubuntu 10.10 | 15:58 |
| madpenguin | Hi, how do I upgrade my system to 10.10 from 10.04? | 16:16 |
| madpenguin | i have several bugs with 10.04 | 16:16 |
| hyperair | run sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 16:16 |
| madpenguin | that's all? | 16:16 |
| phillw | cheers hyperair, I've been waiting for that CLI string. | 16:17 |
| * phillw goes and updates wiki | 16:17 | |
| madpenguin | is that like 'dist-upgrade?' | 16:17 |
| hyperair | madpenguin: trust me when i say you won't be saying "that's all?" after you're done. | 16:17 |
| hyperair | it's a more complete form | 16:17 |
| hyperair | it does wahtever update-manager usually does, but in the command line | 16:17 |
| madpenguin | oh | 16:18 |
| madpenguin | is it safe to that in lubuntu? | 16:18 |
| madpenguin | because 10.10 is released, right? | 16:18 |
| bioterror | yes | 16:18 |
| bioterror | it should be ;) | 16:18 |
| phillw | madpenguin: yes it is safe. | 16:18 |
| madpenguin | ok | 16:19 |
| madpenguin | i copy pasted the sudo command given so i'll try it after i've chatted ;) | 16:19 |
| madpenguin | i'm used to dist-upgrade so it looks peculiar to me | 16:20 |
| madpenguin | I have an abiword bug ... is there any knowledge on that one? | 16:20 |
| madpenguin | it might get fixed by the kernel upgrade? | 16:20 |
| hyperair | dist-upgrade is the imperfect solution that may not completely clean up afterward | 16:21 |
| madpenguin | or when the other packages upgrade | 16:21 |
| madpenguin | hyperair, oh, okay | 16:21 |
| hyperair | i'm not sure what this cleanup entices, but i'm told that it'd bad. | 16:21 |
| madpenguin | i don't know either | 16:21 |
| madpenguin | i notice a few nuisance bugs but the abiword was really annoying | 16:21 |
| * hyperair doesn't use abiword | 16:22 | |
| madpenguin | since I can't copy anything to abiword unless it's unformatted | 16:22 |
| hyperair | i've been told that it's gotten very much better since the last time i've tried. | 16:22 |
| madpenguin | hyperair, i just use it for temp. tasks | 16:22 |
| * hyperair uses ooo writer | 16:22 | |
| madpenguin | when i try to copy something via paste only, it crashes | 16:22 |
| madpenguin | ooo writer is openoffice? | 16:23 |
| madpenguin | actually, i do, too, normally... I should install it | 16:24 |
| madpenguin | it's not there in default install but that's fine... i know what to do | 16:24 |
| madpenguin | i haven't been using lately but when i need a word processor, i usually use that | 16:24 |
| madpenguin | when i run sudo do-release-upgrade -d, is there anything i need to know? | 16:25 |
| madpenguin | will I be asked to input anything? | 16:25 |
| * bioterror is waiting for Libre Office | 16:25 | |
| phillw | hyperair: can you just proof read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10? | 16:25 |
| madpenguin | bioterror, yeah, that's the new one, right? they have to change their name | 16:26 |
| bioterror | madpenguin, openoffice developers didnt like oracle, made a fork | 16:26 |
| hyperair | phillw: nope. not yet. | 16:26 |
| bioterror | and canonical, novell and red hat is behind them now too | 16:26 |
| hyperair | phillw: see, i've been running do-release-upgrade since this afternoon. | 16:26 |
| hyperair | phillw: it's now 2326 | 16:26 |
| hyperair | i started running it at around 2pm i think | 16:26 |
| hyperair | 10 hours and it's still not done. wtf >_> | 16:27 |
| hyperair | screw dpkg and its useless fsyncs | 16:27 |
| hyperair | i have btrfs! i don't need those damn fsyncs | 16:27 |
| madpenguin | bioterror, oh, i see | 16:27 |
| madpenguin | as long as the quality doesn't go down, right? | 16:27 |
| phillw | hyperair: should I take that posting down for the CLI ? | 16:27 |
| hyperair | phillw: what? | 16:27 |
| madpenguin | phillw, when does it ask you if you want to upgrade?? | 16:27 |
| phillw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10? | 16:28 |
| hyperair | phillw: do-release-upgrade -d? yeah sure. | 16:28 |
| madpenguin | oh, the update manager... | 16:28 |
| hyperair | phillw: actually do-release-upgrade is good enough. | 16:28 |
| madpenguin | but, better to do it via CLI, right? via terminal console, correct? | 16:28 |
| hyperair | phillw: my mirror's outdated or something so for some reason it needs -d | 16:28 |
| phillw | I'm running ubuntu 9.10 as my dongle refuses to work with 10.04 and 10.10, it's a real PITA | 16:28 |
| hyperair | -d is for development releases. | 16:28 |
| hyperair | phillw: ouch. | 16:28 |
| hyperair | phillw: have you filed a bug? | 16:28 |
| madpenguin | what dongle do you have, phillw? | 16:29 |
| phillw | yes, and it's a very lonely unloved bug that I've bounced several times. | 16:29 |
| madpenguin | usb one? | 16:29 |
| * phillw is part of the bug squad, to really rub it in :'( | 16:29 | |
| hyperair | phillw: which bug? did you poke the right people? | 16:29 |
| madpenguin | I was using one for my desktop...but, it's wireless g... with zd1211b chipset... works | 16:31 |
| madpenguin | i read that the only wireless n chipsets working is broadcom or ralink...hard to believe | 16:31 |
| madpenguin | those two are among the worse wireless chipsets in linux | 16:32 |
| madpenguin | can't say how many posts I've seen in any linux-based forum with wireless discussions of ppl owning those chipsets! | 16:32 |
| madpenguin | comments? suggestions? :) | 16:32 |
| phillw | hyperair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/529794?comments=all | 16:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 529794 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Lucid 10.04 Alpha3 network-manager 0.8 fails to connect on boot Huawei E172 3G USB modem (affected: 4, heat: 22)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:39 |
| hyperair | hmm | 16:39 |
| phillw | gee, that ubot is fast :) | 16:39 |
| hyperair | heh | 16:40 |
| hyperair | phillw: have you poked cyphermox? | 16:40 |
| phillw | I don't know cyphermox | 16:41 |
| phillw | I could get it running with the dev kernel in 10.04 of ubuntu, but it wouldnot work with lubuntu 10.04; it's really annoying :( | 16:42 |
| jumpingclear | Are the instructions on the wiki for a minimal install still valid for 10.10? ie do we still need to add the lubuntu-desktop ppa and use the --no-install-recommends option? | 18:54 |
| gilir | jumpingclear, just skip the lubuntu-desktop ppa, the rest should be valid | 19:01 |
| jumpingclear | gilir, thanks. Also is there a list of what is included in lubuntu-desktop-base? I assume it is lubuntu-desktop minus apps? I have had major problems with standard iso and selecting an encrypted home so I am trying the minimal route. | 19:08 |
| giampiero | Hello, how can I get SoundJuicer to rep cd tracks into mp3? | 19:12 |
| gilir | jumpingclear, you only have lubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-core | 19:12 |
| gilir | lubuntu-desktop have the complete list here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications | 19:12 |
| gilir | lubuntu-core is only the files manager, window manager, the panel and the session manager | 19:13 |
| giampiero | Hello, how can I get SoundJuicer to rip cd tracks into mp3? Can anybody help? | 19:14 |
| jumpingclear | Sorry, my mistake, I meant lubuntu-core. I don't use many of the lubuntu defaults so would rather add my own but am not sure what lubuntu-core leaves out. | 19:16 |
| jumpingclear | OK I will install lubuntu-core and then try apt-get lubuntu-desktop and see what is left | 19:18 |
| sulumar | Hi, i just switched to lubuntu, finding out that gnome was far too havy for 512 MBRam, and wanted to know if there are any recomendations on what to do next | 19:55 |
| bioterror | you mean like drop some daemons? | 19:57 |
| sulumar | id rather not touch the deamons, never know when im going to need them | 20:00 |
| bioterror | I usually unmark all the bluetooths and stuff like that which I'm not going to use | 20:01 |
| sulumar | usefull | 20:01 |
| sulumar | i thought more like extend the desktop funktionality by ie installing some applets well if there are any usefull for lxde | 20:05 |
| nolatux | Hello! | 22:01 |
| nolatux | Hello! | 22:01 |
| jumpingclear | has anyone got lubuntu 10.10 to work with an encrypted home directory? Worked well with 10.04 but doesn't seem to access the encrypted directory with 10.10 | 22:17 |
| gilir | jumpingclear, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxdm/+bug/635698 | 22:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 635698 in lxdm (Ubuntu) "encrypted home-folder not unlocked when login (affected: 2, heat: 10)" [High,In progress] | 22:22 |
| * phillw you got to love the ubot :) | 22:31 | |
| zebastianortis | how can i make a text file that only i(root) can open? | 22:38 |
| zebastianortis | anyone here can help me | 22:38 |
| zebastianortis | i want to make a journal | 22:38 |
| bioterror | sudo nano file | 22:38 |
| bioterror | or you can use alt+f2 and type "gksudo leafpad" | 22:39 |
| bioterror | or what ever is the desired text editor | 22:39 |
| zebastianortis | i just opened the terminal, typed gksudo leafpad file saved as and was able to click and open it without it asking me for my password, fail? | 22:41 |
| jumpingclear | gilir, thanks, I should have checked launchpad for bugs. Took me a while to realise the problems I was having were due to the encrypted home. | 22:41 |
| zebastianortis | i meant a file that only i can open and that will ask me for the root pw everytime | 22:42 |
| zebastianortis | theres a folder i made for my journal, whereon only root has access and which i want pcmanfm to popup a prompt upon clicking | 23:55 |
| zebastianortis | a password prompt | 23:55 |
| zebastianortis | much like when you open synaptic it doesnt just say access denied but prompts for password | 23:55 |
| Arthur_D | hi everyone. Would it be too much of a pain to use Lubuntu on a Pentium (100 MHz or thereabouts) 24mb RAM system? | 23:57 |
| Arthur_D | I know it's under the minimum requirements, but I wondered if anyone had used it below that | 23:58 |
| phillw | hiyas Arthur_D 24MB would most likely below what even lubuntu can manage. | 23:59 |
| Arthur_D | alrighty | 23:59 |
| phillw | there is DSL and puppy linux that you may want to try | 23:59 |
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