=== shrini1 is now known as shrini [13:00] i have branched lp:ubuntu-manual, now after editing , i have to commit the changes and then push back to lp...is this right? Is the description of revision that is displayed on Launchpad the commit statement? [13:01] drcooper, are you using the command line to commit and push back to launchpad? [13:01] nisshh: yes [13:01] drcooper, ok, easy as pie [13:02] all you need to do is pull first: bzr pull [13:02] once you have done that, then do a: bzr commit -m "Description of my changes." [13:02] then do a: bzr push [13:03] nisshh: actually i used the full url to branch as "branch lp:ubuntu-manual" was not working...so i can push back using "bzr push url" ? [13:03] drcooper, when doing the push and pulls though, you might want to add: lp:ubuntu-manual to the end [13:03] drcooper, yep [13:04] nisshh: where should i add lp:ubuntu-manual [13:04] ? [13:04] drcooper, dont add it, i thought it was working [13:04] but since it isnt, do not worry [13:05] nisshh: ok.. [13:05] drcooper, what URL did you use to fetch the branch? [13:06] nisshh: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick [13:07] drcooper, ah ok, that's fine, just wanted to make sure you were using the right one :) [13:07] nisshh: ok.. [14:22] Will ubuntu manual project cover the topice related to netbook edition? [14:22] *topics [14:22] drcooper, you mean will we have a manual for the netbook edition? [14:23] ya [14:23] or will current manual include topics related to unity [14:23] drcooper, possibly in the future, although the focus is on stock desktop Ubuntu for now [14:23] ok [14:38] nisshh: i get error on pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/511659/ [14:41] i get error on pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/511659/ ... anyone pls help [15:10] drcooper, easy, you need to use bzr's protocol, replace https with bzr+ssh [15:10] nisshh: how? [15:10] drcooper, see where you have the URL to push to? [15:11] nisshh: ya [15:11] nisshh: what should i change [15:11] drcooper, well, make https:// at the start of the URL, look like: bzr+ssh:// instead [15:11] that should fix your problem [15:12] nisshh: ok..will try [15:12] drcooper, do you have an SSH key registered with launchpad? [15:12] nisshh: ya [15:12] ok, good [15:13] drcooper, did it work? [15:13] nisshh: im using a proxy server to get to the internet...will that affect ur suggestion? [15:13] drcooper, possibly [15:14] nisshh: nope...i actually deleted the branch in attempts to fix it [15:14] nisshh: now i have to branch [15:14] nisshh: will update you if i have any trouble [15:14] drcooper, oh nice, you just deleted all your changes too :) [15:15] nisshh: :( [15:15] ok, sure [15:15] drcooper, next time you run into trouble, just leave stuff as is when asking for help, that way you wont lose your changes next time :) [15:16] nisshh: got it [15:16] drcooper, got the branch? [15:16] lol [15:16] * nisshh waves :) [15:17] i think someone clicked the wrong close button :) [15:24] nisshh: drcooper looks like he just dived into development :) [15:24] nisshh: btw, you could join my session about Ubuntu development tomorrow in the UOW! [15:34] bilalakhtar, yes drcooper has [15:34] bilalakhtar, and yes, i will be at your session (didnt know you were running one!) :) [15:34] * nisshh checks the schedule [15:42] nisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511698/ [15:42] nisshh: but nothing is seen in lp [15:50] drcooper, oh-oh, you created a NEW branch [15:50] bad idea [15:50] you need to push your changes to the existing one [15:51] but where is the new branch even if i did create one [15:51] nisshh: but where is the new branch even if i did create one [15:51] drcooper, at that link most likely, give me a moment to figure out what you did [15:53] nisshh: without the --create-prefix , i get error parent direcories missing...you may add ---create-prefix to create them [15:53] drcooper, also, you forgot the colon after bzr+ssh [15:53] drcooper, don't just do what bzr says, it is not always the best solution :) [15:54] nisshh: hmm [15:55] drcooper, use this command to grab the right branch: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual [15:55] that doesnt work for me [15:55] drcooper, and use this command when pushing: bzr push lp:ubuntu-manual [15:55] drcooper, what? does it come up with an error or something? [15:56] drcooper, works fine for me [15:56] nisshh: bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. [15:57] drcooper, aha, i know that error [15:57] nisshh: solution [15:57] ? [15:57] drcooper, can i have a link to your lp profile? [15:57] drcooper, one sec, just need to check something first [15:58] nisshh: https://launchpad.net/~rohitr [15:59] drcooper, ok, one moment [16:01] drcooper, can you please run this command and pastebin the output: cat .bazaar/authentication.conf [16:02] nisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511710/ [16:03] drcooper, ok, now run these two commands, this one first: bzr launchpad-login rohitr [16:03] the actual error i get is http://paste.ubuntu.com/511709/ [16:04] i have done that nisshh [16:04] drcooper, ah, that is a slightly different error [16:05] what if i change method from ssh to http or https [16:05] drcooper, no, use ssh [16:05] nisshh: what if i change method from ssh to http or https [16:05] nisshh: ok [16:07] drcooper, can you go to the branch's directory and: cat .bzr/branch/branch.conf [16:07] and pastebin the output please [16:07] i think i know EXACTLY what is wrong now [16:07] just want to know for sure [16:08] nisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511720/ [16:10] drcooper, ok, try this to pull: bzr pull bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/ [16:11] if that doesnt work, i have something else you can try [16:11] error : not a branch [16:11] nisshh: i think thats not the link to the branch [16:12] nisshh: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick/ [16:12] is [16:12] drcooper, no it isnt [16:13] drcooper, that is the link that bzr keeps trying to use, but it isnt working [16:13] i should us it to push right? nisshh [16:13] wait a sec [16:14] drcooper, when you branch a fresh branch from launchpad, are you running the command from inside another branch? or just a normal directory? [16:15] drcooper, because it should not keep history when branching a new branch [16:15] normal dir nisshh [16:15] hmmm [16:16] drcooper, ok, try this: bzr branch bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick/ [16:16] if THAT doesnt work, then im going to facepalm [16:18] nisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511726/ [16:18] :( [16:18] ssh isnt picking up my proxy i guess [16:19] drcooper, yep, your proxy is the problem [16:19] apparently to get bzr to work with it, you will need to fiddle with your .bashrc [16:19] nisshh: so i cant contribute to any project ? [16:19] drcooper, yes you can [16:19] drcooper, any reason why you need the proxy? [16:20] nisshh: im in an institute and we can get to internet only through the proxy [16:20] drcooper, ah bugger [16:21] drcooper, hang on a sec, ill consult one of my knowledgeable friends in another channel :) [16:21] nisshh: ok [16:21] drcooper, he says it is possible, just annoyingly difficult [16:22] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/509543 [16:22] Launchpad bug 509543 in bzr "not able to branch from launchpad behind proxy (squid) (dup-of: 186920)" [Undecided,Fix released] [16:22] Launchpad bug 186920 in bzr "bzr xmlrpc client doesn't use http proxy, causing network errors trying to resolve lp: urls" [High,Fix released] [16:23] popey, ah, thanks [16:27] nisshh, popey my bzr is version 2.2 , the fix mentioned is to upgrade to 2.1 [16:27] drcooper, there is an environment variable you should set [16:28] nisshh: which one [16:28] drcooper, but first, do you know for sure if your proxy allows ssh connections? [16:28] nisshh: i do not know [16:28] nisshh: it doesnt let mail clients work [16:29] drcooper, if it doesnt, you have no hope unless you appeal to whoever manages the proxy server [16:29] nisshh: :( [16:29] drcooper: do you have an ssh server outside the network? [16:29] preferably running on port 443? [16:29] http://popey.com/blog/2010/02/25/proxies-in-the-way-of-testing/ [16:30] popey, drcooper is at an institute behind a proxy server, seems unlikely :| [16:30] popey: im not aware of one [16:30] no, you misunderstand [16:30] I'm asking if you have a VPS or other 'server' outside [16:30] like where you host your website [16:30] i see [16:30] popey, to test the proxy? is that what your thinking? [16:31] nisshh, popey im lost [16:32] ok, simple question drcooper, do you have access to a server which has ssh server installed, which is on the internet somewhere, _outside_ your organisation? [16:33] popey i do not have... [16:33] ok, forget that suggestion then :) [16:33] popey nisshh is ssh necessory to run bzr push? [16:34] pass [16:35] drcooper, just finding out now, i certainly have never tried it [16:36] drcooper, just try: bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/maverick [16:37] drcooper, if that doesnt work, i give up sorry :( [16:37] nisshh: that works [16:37] nisshh: push does not [16:37] drcooper, ah ok [16:37] drcooper, what error does it come up with when you push? [16:39] not surprised push fails [16:39] no authentication [16:39] nisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/511736/ [16:39] popey, exactly [16:39] drcooper, yep, looks like ssh is required, because of launchpad authentication [16:40] im so screwed [16:40] drcooper, sorry i am unable to help more, i suggest you get in touch with whoever administers your proxy server, and ask them to enable ssh over it [16:41] drcooper, also, see the last comment in that bug report that popey linked to :) [16:41] nisshh: is ssh even trying to contact the proxy server? [16:41] that has an environment variable that you can set that may work [16:41] drcooper, no idea [16:49] drcooper: not if you dont tell it to [16:50] i use ssh through a proxy server here, but it requires some very specific configuration [16:50] if you haven't done that configuration, it flat out wont work [16:50] i see [16:50] popey : how to do that [16:50] proxy servers are annoying :| [16:50] drcooper: as I said, you need a server outside your network [16:51] ohh [16:51] :( [16:51] drcooper, do you live at this institute? or do you have access to computers outside of it? [16:52] nisshh: i live in the campus [16:52] drcooper, ah ok [16:52] I'm afriad I can't help without a box outside your network [16:53] same [16:53] makes it very difficult [16:54] * nisshh goes and watches a movie [16:54] * drcooper will have to do that for the rest of his time in the damned institute [16:55] thants 2.5 years :( [17:00] is there any alternate way other than bzr...popey...to contribute? [17:00] contribute code [17:01] drcooper, not really :( [17:01] drcooper, you could always just hunt for bugs or something [17:01] drcooper, which won't require bzr [17:02] nisshh: i was really pumped up to start contributing code and now this :( [17:05] drcooper, it happens, i know :| [17:08] nisshh, popey how come my bzr launchpad-login works? it uses https? [17:11] * dutchie is now a proud thinkpad owner [17:19] Success! Wrote 166 pages [17:24] drcooper: its still possible to contribute from behind a proxy [17:24] popey how [17:27] well, you can find bugs, check the source code out and build the packages locally to test them, then create patches and attach those to the bug report [17:27] which is exactly what we ask people to do when they're patching code [17:48] popey will this ( http://shells.red-pill.eu/ ) help to fix my problem as u mentioned? [17:53] popey can i use myfreedom to tunnel th proxy? [17:54] popey i meant "yourfreedom" [17:58] i have never used that shell account provider [17:58] i personally have a VPS I use [17:59] which I have an SSH server running on port 443 [20:28] popey: i got it working [20:28] :) === Zeike is now known as brandonj === Daker is now known as daker