[11:45] <daker> stats just want to tell you that there is an ubuntu web font used in askubuntu
[11:45] <AlanBell> where is it hosted?
[11:51] <daker> AlanBell: http://sstatic.net/askubuntu/all.css?v=7710c2ff227d
[11:51] <daker> Ctrl+F ubuntu
[11:52] <AlanBell> interesting stuff
[11:59] <AlanBell> just updated bug 655305 with that info
[11:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 655305 in ubuntu-font-family "font.ubuntu.com needs the font hosted for web embedding (affects: 2) (heat: 37)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655305
[12:01] <AlanBell> interesting that they are referencing "Ubuntu Mono","Ubuntu Beta Mono A"
[12:06] <daker> ya
[12:13] <AlanBell> newz2000: what is the latest on the wiki update? any of my branches going to make it in tomorrow?
[12:14] <AlanBell> personally I would be a lot more comfortable updating the theme that is there but not making it default quite yet
[12:14] <AlanBell> there are still lots of things that don't look great under the light theme, such as the info pages with the revision history etc
[12:15] <AlanBell> ideally there should be a trunk branch for the code in the Ubuntu-website project rather than your +junk area
[12:15] <AlanBell> I don't think I can do a merge request to your branch, but I attached my branch to all the bugs I worked on
[13:11] <AlanBell> newz2000: what did you think of my suggestion to add an accessible theme to the wiki (non-default, but selectable in preferences)
[14:34] <newz2000> AlanBell: Sorry, didn't catch your suggestion so didn't consider it yet, sounds reasonable
[14:34] <AlanBell> it was burried in my long rambling email
[14:35] <newz2000> AlanBell: will you be around a couple min? I've got to reboot real quick
[14:35] <AlanBell> sure
[14:35] <AlanBell> http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/SimpleMente
[15:10] <AlanBell> newz2000: back?
[15:10] <newz2000> AlanBell: yes, sorry. Got mobbed when I rebooted
[15:10] <AlanBell> hah
[15:11] <newz2000> AlanBell: ive me 90 seconds
[15:13] <newz2000> hey AlanBell
[15:13] <newz2000> Yes, today I will try to package all the work done on the wiki together
[15:13] <newz2000> I've not looked over your patches but I did look at your demo site
[15:13] <newz2000> Thanks for the work you did, how happy are you with the rsults?
[15:16] <AlanBell> pretty happy
[15:17] <AlanBell> the dots at the top I am not happy with right now
[15:17] <AlanBell> they were an experiment which I think failed :)
[15:17] <newz2000> Can you give me a link to your demo site? (if it is still up)
[15:17] <AlanBell> http://libertus.co.uk:8080 can you see that?
[15:19] <newz2000> AlanBell: yep
[15:19] <AlanBell> good, my laptop picked up the same IP as before then :)
[15:19] <newz2000> wow, that's amazing
[15:20] <AlanBell> I am going to back out the bigger dots at the top, don't like them so much
[15:20] <newz2000> yeah, I think we've deviated a bit radically from the designer's intent with the background image and the dots
[15:20] <AlanBell> I was trying to get some of the popular bits from the askubuntu.com site in
[15:21] <AlanBell> the theory was to have a run of dark dots in a line across, which continues into light dots in the margins
[15:22] <newz2000> AlanBell: are you pushing your changes into lp?
[15:22]  * newz2000 has not had a chance to look yet
[15:22] <newz2000> I've not seen an merge proposal yet though
[15:22] <AlanBell> can I do that to your branch?
[15:23] <AlanBell> or does it have to be in ubuntu-website project first?
[15:23] <newz2000> AlanBell: push them up to LP somewhere and then submit it as a merge proposal (through the web interface)
[15:23] <AlanBell> ok, it is on LP, I will just fix the nasty dots and do the merge proposal
[15:23] <newz2000> thanks a bunch for your help Alan, I'll be merging this stuff in today
[15:25] <newz2000> AlanBell: oh, don't be disapointed, but I'll probably reject your MP and cherry pick some parts out of it.
[15:25] <newz2000> I will use your work but probably not the whole patch
[15:25] <newz2000> I don't want you to think I'm ungrateful, I'm extraordinarily grateful
[15:26] <AlanBell> thats fine
[15:26] <AlanBell> have a look now
[15:26] <newz2000> great
[15:28] <AlanBell> lp:~alanbell/ubuntu-website/light-moin-theme is where it is at
[15:29] <AlanBell> where was your branch?
[15:32] <AlanBell> This branch is not mergeable into lp:~newz/+junk/light-wiki.
[15:34] <newz2000> AlanBell: ok, I'll just poke at that
[15:36] <AlanBell> http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/SimpleMente is the accessible theme, quite plain but screenreader friendly
[15:37] <AlanBell> 13:10 < akgraner> I like the headers in Purple oops I mean aubergine and the links in orange though
[15:37] <AlanBell> 13:10 < akgraner> Love it! Love it! Love it!! - did I mention I love that part
[15:46] <newz2000> AlanBell: I'll look at it
[15:47] <newz2000> She'll be disapointed about the aubergine
[15:47] <newz2000> It's not part of the Ubuntu web branding
[15:47]  * newz2000 tries to take the guidelines very seriously
[15:51] <AlanBell> yeah, read all them :)
[15:51] <newz2000> There's a funny story behind this
[15:51] <newz2000> When the brand guidelines came out, they said that "orange = Ubuntu, aubergine = Canonical"
[15:51] <newz2000> And then Lucid shipped with a purple desktop wallpaper. :-)
[15:51] <newz2000> Got everyone really confused.
[15:51] <AlanBell> actually no, they said aubergine=commercial
[15:52] <newz2000> ah, right
[15:52] <AlanBell> then they split "enterprise" and "developer" with different dot sizes and pitches
[15:52] <newz2000> yeah, clever.
[15:52] <AlanBell> and there are 5 different aubergines
[15:53] <AlanBell> in theory in at least one of the design documents (or it might have been a draft I was reviewing) Canonical should be aubergine with orange as an accent colour and Ubuntu should be orange with Aubergine as an accent colour
[15:54] <AlanBell> there were pie charts for the quantities to use
[15:56] <AlanBell> the voice slider, thats the one
[15:56] <newz2000> ok, you may have gotten into them more than I have. :-)
[15:57] <AlanBell> yeah, but I tend to take the captain Jack Sparrow approach to such things
[15:57] <AlanBell> more of a guideline than an actual law :)
[15:59] <AlanBell> http://design.canonical.com/brand/5.%20Ubuntu%20colour%20palettes%20and%20colour%20landscape.pdf found the pie charts
[16:00] <newz2000> oh yeah, forgot about those
[16:01] <AlanBell> some things like cool grey as a background are nice in theory, but then I asked some low vision users in #ubuntu-accessibility to have a look at it, then I made the text darker and the background lighter until they said it stopped looking fuzzy and hard to read
[16:02] <newz2000> yeah, I've thought that about the server pages especially
[16:03] <AlanBell> -accessibility is a great channel to idle in, you can always post a link to a development site and ask for feedback on it either in terms of low vision or screen reader use
[16:08] <newz2000> good tip
[16:21] <AlanBell> newz2000: there are a whole heap of 404 errors for missing images in /assets/ on my box, I kind of assumed that was because I set it up wrong
[16:21] <newz2000> Hm...
[16:21] <newz2000> You probably don't have all the files actually
[16:21] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/511730/
[16:22] <AlanBell> yeah, I am not too bothered about them, but they probably should be fixed one way or another for deployment
[16:24] <AlanBell> and web hosting of the font is comming very soon according to sabdfl this morning Bug #655305
[16:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 655305 in ubuntu-font-family "font.ubuntu.com needs the font hosted for web embedding (affects: 2) (heat: 37)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655305