| judgen | jrmy, Ok | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| judgen | Can you not find it at all? | 00:03 |
| judgen | Are you using a dual head video card or two card? | 00:04 |
| judgen | Or do you mean your primary screen? just to find it? | 00:05 |
| judgen | I can help with either i think. | 00:06 |
| jrmy | laptop with a vga port on the back | 00:13 |
| jrmy | judgen | 00:13 |
| jrmy | my laptop is a gateway 1450 | 00:14 |
| judgen | Laptops are not my strong suite, but.. have you added the second gfx device in the Xorg? | 00:15 |
| jrmy | what? | 00:15 |
| jrmy | plugged in a monitor to the back? | 00:15 |
| jrmy | can we continue this in liek 20 minutes i gotta pick someone up | 00:16 |
| jrmy | bbl | 00:16 |
| judgen | ok | 00:16 |
| judgen | sure | 00:16 |
| * likemindead wishes there was more than one Xubuntu review for every 100 Ubuntu ones out there... | 00:28 | |
| judgen | anything in particular you want reviewed? | 00:35 |
| likemindead | Overall feel, I reckon. | 00:38 |
| likemindead | Any bugginess? | 00:39 |
| judgen | I am not an reviewer, but xubuntu feels faster, snappier and more polished than gnome in most ways. | 00:40 |
| judgen | I still think the lower function should be included as a button on the windowmanager, but toher than that nothing i dislike. | 00:41 |
| judgen | jrmy, bk? | 00:41 |
| likemindead | Yeah, I've been using Xubuntu for about two years now. Love Xfce. :D | 00:41 |
| === judgen is now known as judgen-zzz | ||
| judgen-zzz | I am off to sleep now | 00:52 |
| judgen-zzz | 01:52 here | 00:52 |
| jrmy | im back | 00:52 |
| jrmy | night | 00:53 |
| judgen-zzz | jrmy, i am off too bed, but check this out | 00:53 |
| judgen-zzz | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93591 | 00:53 |
| judgen-zzz | maybe you have a broken bios | 00:53 |
| judgen-zzz | and need a software update for it | 00:53 |
| judgen-zzz | but i do not know your symptoms | 00:53 |
| judgen-zzz | Is the screen completley black, or do you get any output to your screen? | 00:53 |
| Venim | so where does the xfce menu file sit at | 01:00 |
| jrmy | judgen-zzz: its completely black from what i can tell | 01:00 |
| charlie-tca | Venim: it is actively built when logging in | 01:01 |
| Venim | well its built off of old things | 01:02 |
| Venim | because i just reinstalled xubuntu | 01:02 |
| Venim | and its showing me old wine things | 01:02 |
| Venim | that are not installed | 01:02 |
| Venim | because i deleted ~/.wine | 01:02 |
| charlie-tca | It should be built off what you have installed. | 01:02 |
| Venim | but its not | 01:02 |
| charlie-tca | If you used an old /home, there are things in it from the old desktop that will get used | 01:02 |
| Venim | and i am | 01:03 |
| Venim | but i deleted ~/.wine | 01:03 |
| charlie-tca | It doesn't know you did not reinstall what you previously used | 01:03 |
| Venim | so it shouldn't pick it up there | 01:03 |
| Venim | so where is it building the wine programs off of | 01:03 |
| charlie-tca | uses the files in /home/.wine or .config/ and .local | 01:04 |
| charlie-tca | It is doing what it should. If you have a local configuration, it is not supposed to delete it | 01:05 |
| Venim | its not | 01:05 |
| Venim | but i got rid of .wine | 01:05 |
| Venim | so there shouldn't be any programs | 01:05 |
| charlie-tca | I would examine ~/.config and ~/.local for it | 01:07 |
| tywgg | Hey, just installed xubuntu on my netbook. It works very well. Only got one problem tho, I can add icons to my panel. | 01:07 |
| charlie-tca | you can't? | 01:07 |
| tywgg | Ye, sorry can't. | 01:08 |
| charlie-tca | You have to add the launcher to the panel. right-click the panel, left-click "add to ...", pick a launcher | 01:08 |
| tywgg | Ah, okay. | 01:08 |
| charlie-tca | and yes, gnome/ubuntu is easier to do that with | 01:09 |
| tywgg | Ye, I tot it would be the same as ubuntu. | 01:09 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 01:09 |
| charlie-tca | We like to think of our users as more capable of making things work the way they want it to. | 01:10 |
| tywgg | Cool. I have to say, I like it very much. And also, the booting speed seems faster than ubuntu. | 01:11 |
| Swishahouse | Greetings! | 01:42 |
| jrmy | hi | 01:43 |
| Swishahouse | I have updated this machine over several versions of ubuntu and have migrated to Xubuntu now 10.10. Is there a place where I can see the default package list because I feel like I have a bunch of packages I dont need anymore..... | 01:43 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, the manifest on the install cd | 01:44 |
| Swishahouse | I do not have the CD | 01:44 |
| Swishahouse | The manifest should be in the APT repo as well yes? | 01:44 |
| Swishahouse | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/xubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.manifest | 01:45 |
| Swishahouse | cheers =D | 01:45 |
| charlie-tca | yes sir | 01:46 |
| charlie-tca | Looks like the list | 01:47 |
| Swishahouse | is this the list for the Live CD only? | 01:47 |
| charlie-tca | They should be the same for both cd's, except the installer. | 01:47 |
| charlie-tca | Live cd uses ubiquity and casper, alternate image uses debian-installer | 01:48 |
| Swishahouse | I'll probably just focus on the gnome sections | 01:48 |
| Swishahouse | because i was getting errors that the gnomescreensaver darmon was running at the same time, etc | 01:48 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 01:49 |
| charlie-tca | we replaced gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver. If both are installed, you get errors | 01:49 |
| charlie-tca | The upgrade, to the best of my knowledge, does not remove gnome-screensaver | 01:49 |
| Swishahouse | so far everything seems to be great i just wanted to check on some of those gnome packages | 01:50 |
| Swishahouse | the only other issue ive came across is with irssi | 01:50 |
| Swishahouse | irssi | 01:51 |
| Swishahouse | TERM environment not set | 01:51 |
| Swishahouse | Can't initialize screen handling, quitting. | 01:51 |
| charlie-tca | yes. you can set it using export TERM xterm | 01:51 |
| charlie-tca | bug 621927 | 01:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 621927 in Ubuntu release notes "Embedded Terminal Emulator isn't giving a TERM variable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621927 | 01:51 |
| charlie-tca | It is in the xubuntu release notes | 01:52 |
| Swishahouse | sounds good | 01:53 |
| Swishahouse | i appreciate the help and the release =) | 01:54 |
| charlie-tca | Our pleasure | 01:54 |
| Swishahouse | would you recommend one of these bashrc changes shown in the launchpad? | 01:57 |
| charlie-tca | adding export to it? yes | 01:58 |
| charlie-tca | The same command will let it work automatically. | 01:58 |
| charlie-tca | Otherwise, you have to enter the export command everytime you restart | 01:58 |
| Swishahouse | cheers =) | 01:59 |
| Debby | is anyone familiar with wine & karmic? | 02:04 |
| Debby | Does Xubuntu 9.1 Koala support dial up internet? | 02:07 |
| autif | i installed virtualbox-ose on lucid and started the virtualbox-ose app. I created a virtual machine and started it. It fails saying that I need to install virtualbox-ose-dkms and run modprobe vboxdrv as root. I have rebooted the computer after the install, still no go. Does anyone know? | 02:45 |
| gr8m8 | do you have the ose-dkms installed now? | 02:48 |
| autif | yes | 02:49 |
| autif | i do | 02:49 |
| autif | it was installed with virtualbox-ose package | 02:49 |
| gr8m8 | and you modprobed the vboxdrv? | 02:50 |
| gr8m8 | try lsmod | grep vbox | 02:51 |
| autif | nada | 02:53 |
| autif | it is not included | 02:53 |
| autif | where do i find the driver module? | 02:53 |
| gr8m8 | just modprobe vboxdrv should work - in /lib/modules somewhere | 02:54 |
| gr8m8 | with sudo of course | 02:54 |
| autif | FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found. | 02:55 |
| gr8m8 | try find /lib/modules -name vbox | 02:55 |
| autif | sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-dkms | 02:56 |
| autif | Reading package lists... Done | 02:56 |
| autif | Building dependency tree | 02:56 |
| autif | Reading state information... Done | 02:56 |
| autif | virtualbox-ose-dkms is already the newest version. | 02:56 |
| autif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 02:56 |
| gr8m8 | yep | 02:56 |
| autif | autif@ws:/lib/modules$ find . | grep box | 02:56 |
| autif | ./2.6.32-25-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid/megaraid_mbox.ko | 02:56 |
| autif | ./2.6.32-21-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid/megaraid_mbox.ko | 02:56 |
| autif | autif@ws:/lib/modules$ | 02:56 |
| autif | no vboxdrv | 02:57 |
| gr8m8 | seems it didn't run the setup | 02:58 |
| gr8m8 | try sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup | 02:58 |
| autif | that files does not exist - virtualboc-ose does and does not take setup as a parameter | 03:00 |
| gr8m8 | I never use the ose version - someone in #ubuntu or #vbox might know if noone else here does | 03:02 |
| autif | will try vbox ose - i have used it with karmic (ubuntu, not xubuntu) | 03:03 |
| autif | seemed to work fine there | 03:03 |
| autif | will try #vbox or #ubuntu | 03:03 |
| autif | thanks gr8m8 | 03:03 |
| gr8m8 | I tried :] | 03:03 |
| xGrind | the sound is bad | 03:23 |
| xGrind | in the xubuntu 10.10 | 03:23 |
| gr8m8 | you need different music or... ? | 03:24 |
| === RonIn_ is now known as Guest60469 | ||
| jrmy | dude 10.10 sucks | 03:37 |
| jrmy | why did they even release it as a stable release? | 03:38 |
| jrmy | to many problems | 03:38 |
| gr8m8 | it might have been a bit rushed to make the 10/10/10 date... | 03:39 |
| jrmy | what they need to do is re make it and release it again | 03:40 |
| gr8m8 | there will be fixes along shortly... maybe | 03:41 |
| gr8m8 | bbiab | 03:41 |
| jrmy | how long had they been working on it anyways? | 03:41 |
| jrmy | ok | 03:41 |
| jrmy | ok so the live CD for xubuntu 10.10 cant seem to mount upon booting | 03:58 |
| jrmy | bbl | 04:01 |
| autif | so, i uninstalled virtualbox-ose and installed VirtualBox from the deb package from their website. Now when I run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup - it can not find the kernel headers - Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 2.6.32-25-generic cannot be found at | 04:08 |
| autif | /lib/modules/2.6.32-25-generic/build or /lib/modules/2.6.32-25-generic/source. | 04:08 |
| === jrmy_ is now known as jrmy | ||
| autif | was missing kernel headers - had xx.xx.xx, required xx.xx.xx-generic | 04:15 |
| jrmy | im still missing X essentially | 04:16 |
| jrmy | i think i just simply need to tell X what my screen has to be set to and it'll be fine | 04:16 |
| jrmy | but idk | 04:17 |
| gr8m8 | jrmy: can you google a xorg.conf for graphics? | 04:17 |
| jrmy | im to tired | 04:17 |
| jrmy | and im not smart enough to do commands | 04:17 |
| gr8m8 | k | 04:17 |
| jrmy | ive never used a terminal in all of my life of using a computer | 04:18 |
| autif | it worked!!!! | 04:18 |
| autif | now i have virtual machines | 04:18 |
| jrmy | until last month i think | 04:18 |
| jrmy | http://paste2.org/p/1032868 | 04:22 |
| jrmy | ^^ is this enough to figure my monitor specifications? | 04:23 |
| jrmy | i got this from being in a live cd of xubuntu 10.04 | 04:23 |
| jrmy | used xrandr to pop up said info | 04:24 |
| gr8m8 | jrmy: no - way short of what you need - in terminal do sudo lshw | grep vga to get the graphics card info then have a google for a xorg.conf to match it | 04:25 |
| gr8m8 | when you find one I'll help you get it used | 04:26 |
| jrmy | this works for laptops? | 04:26 |
| jrmy | cause with vga being said will this include my lcd screen? | 04:26 |
| gr8m8 | jrmy: it would just show the card not the diff screens - I would just do sudo lshw and check the lot | 04:29 |
| jrmy | do i need both display 0 and display 1? | 04:31 |
| jrmy | 0 is vga and 1 is the lcd | 04:31 |
| gr8m8 | from lshw? - it doesn't mention them | 04:32 |
| jrmy | yes from lshw | 04:32 |
| jrmy | btw both say unclaimed | 04:32 |
| gr8m8 | you need the card name like intel something or ati something or... | 04:32 |
| jrmy | intel 82830 CGC | 04:33 |
| gr8m8 | google intel 82830 xorg.conf | 04:33 |
| jrmy | doesnt seem to be anything useful or anything i havent tried | 04:38 |
| jrmy | idk im about to give up and go back to 10.04 | 04:47 |
| gr8m8 | jrmy: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=61433 | 04:47 |
| gr8m8 | has an xorg.conf and a line to add further down to get better graphics | 04:48 |
| jrmy | well if i wasnt to tired then maybe i'd figure this out | 04:52 |
| jrmy | so im going to bed | 04:52 |
| jrmy | night | 04:52 |
| raevol | hey all, with the default, foss ati drivers in meerkat, can one get dualhead support? what's the best way to turn that on? | 05:30 |
| Cityscape | I need help installing Nvidia graphics driver on Xubuntu 10.10, can anyone help me? | 05:31 |
| Cityscape | I have a Nvidia Vanta graphics card, what is the proper way to install the best driver for it? | 05:33 |
| gr8m8 | Cityscape: this has a howto | 05:36 |
| gr8m8 | !nvidia | 05:36 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 05:36 |
| Wizard | hi | 07:41 |
| bobby | hello | 07:42 |
| bobby | can somebody tell me what the difference between xfwm4 and openbox | 07:43 |
| raevol | anyone know how to get grandr to save its config across logins? do i just need to gksu it? | 08:06 |
| Sysi | if itäs just GUI for xrandr, no way afaik | 08:06 |
| Sysi | *it's | 08:06 |
| raevol | it is a gui for xrandr, it works for me, just doesn't save the config? | 08:06 |
| Sysi | i'm not sure, but arandr might have saving option | 08:06 |
| raevol | hmm ok | 08:07 |
| Sysi | if not, you need to create xrandr script to startup or xorg.conf | 08:08 |
| raevol | i really like the meerkat gtk theme for xubuntu :) | 08:08 |
| raevol | yea i need the xorg.conf, just am too lazy to figure out how to write one without trying guis first | 08:08 |
| raevol | i would like the xfwm4 meerkat theme, but it's so hard to resize windows... | 08:08 |
| Sysi | imo xrandr way would be easier | 08:09 |
| Sysi | alt rightclick | 08:09 |
| raevol | WOAH | 08:09 |
| raevol | i never knew that | 08:09 |
| raevol | omg that is so handy | 08:09 |
| raevol | oh god arandr ... | 08:11 |
| raevol | i don't understand if what i just saved in arandr will persist... | 08:11 |
| raevol | xrandr is command line right? | 08:12 |
| Sysi | yes | 08:12 |
| raevol | looks like i might need to figure it out :/ | 08:12 |
| gr8m8 | !xrandr | 08:13 |
| ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 08:13 |
| Sysi | xrandr --output FOO --mode fooxbar --right-of BAR | 08:14 |
| raevol | -_- | 08:15 |
| raevol | ok what xorg file does ubuntu use these days | 08:15 |
| raevol | /etc/X11? | 08:15 |
| Sysi | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 08:16 |
| raevol | i appear to now have one | 08:16 |
| raevol | not* | 08:16 |
| Sysi | not by default | 08:16 |
| raevol | is that normal if i just fresh installed? | 08:16 |
| Sterist | where did the Others category go in 10.10? | 08:16 |
| raevol | there doesn't happen to be a tool to generate an xorg.conf for me? i really am not much of an X person | 08:18 |
| Wizard | raevol: X -configure | 08:20 |
| Wizard | as root | 08:20 |
| Wizard | best way to do it :) | 08:20 |
| Wizard | than you don't have to change much in generated file | 08:20 |
| raevol | server already active for display 0 | 08:20 |
| Wizard | yeah, you have to do it from tty | 08:21 |
| Sysi | kill it with fi...service gdm stop | 08:21 |
| raevol | with X killed, or just from tty? | 08:21 |
| Wizard | and with X disabled | 08:21 |
| Sysi | or telinit 3 might be the best | 08:21 |
| Wizard | i don't remember if it accepts display parameter | 08:21 |
| raevol | ok going to go to tty, but what is the command to kill gfm? | 08:21 |
| Wizard | Sysi already wrote it | 08:22 |
| raevol | fi && service gdm stop? | 08:22 |
| raevol | like that? | 08:22 |
| Wizard | without fi and ampersands | 08:22 |
| raevol | ok | 08:22 |
| raevol | ok | 08:22 |
| raevol | brb :D | 08:22 |
| Wizard | i bet he will screw something up | 08:22 |
| Wizard | :P | 08:22 |
| raevol | :/ doesn't appear to have made one, unless it made it somewhere else | 08:25 |
| Wizard | in /root | 08:25 |
| Wizard | it even told you where it wrote it | 08:26 |
| raevol | guess i wasn't paying attention :[ | 08:26 |
| Wizard | don't worry | 08:26 |
| Wizard | few years and you will type it in vi from memory :P | 08:27 |
| raevol | sudo cat /root/xorg.conf isn't doing it, did it name it something else/ | 08:27 |
| raevol | no such file | 08:27 |
| Wizard | ehh | 08:27 |
| Wizard | /root/xorg.conf.new | 08:27 |
| Wizard | or something like this | 08:27 |
| raevol | sudo ls /root is giving nothing.. | 08:27 |
| Sysi | locate xorg.conf | 08:28 |
| raevol | i wonder if it failed | 08:28 |
| Wizard | i don't think so | 08:28 |
| raevol | yea there's an example noveau one that's it | 08:28 |
| raevol | (and a man and some xorg.conf.d) | 08:28 |
| gr8m8 | it'll be in the home dir | 08:29 |
| raevol | let me try again and read this time | 08:29 |
| raevol | brb | 08:29 |
| === Sterist is now known as Shuma-Gimmick | ||
| raevol | /home/raevol/xorg.conf.new ._. | 08:31 |
| raevol | can you link me to that xrandr guide again? | 08:32 |
| gr8m8 | !xrandr | 08:32 |
| ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 08:32 |
| raevol | thanks | 08:32 |
| gr8m8 | np | 08:32 |
| === Shuma-Gimmick is now known as Sterist | ||
| raevol | i hate writing xorg.confs... sigh | 08:35 |
| gr8m8 | i always google for one... | 08:36 |
| Sysi | never done one | 08:36 |
| raevol | :( | 08:36 |
| raevol | who said this would be easier :P | 08:36 |
| Wizard | :D | 08:37 |
| raevol | ok i saved it, is there a way to dynamically load it or do i need to log out/in? | 08:42 |
| gr8m8 | logout | 08:43 |
| raevol | k brb | 08:44 |
| raevol | no dice | 08:51 |
| raevol | back to grandrt | 08:51 |
| raevol | so when i am at gdm things seem fine | 09:06 |
| raevol | but when i log in i lose a screen | 09:06 |
| raevol | ideas on where it is loading a new config from? | 09:06 |
| raevol | it's in .config/xfwm4 | 09:13 |
| raevol | err | 09:13 |
| raevol | .config/xfce4/xfwm4 | 09:13 |
| raevol | that settings overwrites xorg.conf | 09:13 |
| raevol | got it... whew | 09:23 |
| raevol | thanks all | 09:23 |
| Sterist | how do i get to Wine now that the Others category is gone in the 10.10 apps menu? | 10:26 |
| Sysi | terminal | 10:29 |
| Sterist | oh man.. | 10:34 |
| Sterist | 10.10 is quickly becoming hell lol | 10:34 |
| Sterist | reminding me of Sony... removing features (-_-) | 10:35 |
| Sysi | new ubuntu way :/ | 10:36 |
| Sterist | they better not persue windows "qualities" any further... 10.04 was a perfect balance between simple and efficient | 10:37 |
| Sterist | now it's leaning towards "simple" | 10:37 |
| Sysi | 10.04 is LTS | 10:38 |
| Sterist | indeed | 10:38 |
| Sterist | first LTS released during my linux experience | 10:39 |
| Sterist | i only wish i discovered it years earlier... windows has caused so much grief | 10:40 |
| cata | hi | 11:14 |
| gigglefight | hello please kindly explain how to change display settings on xubuntu. I'm using vga cable. is it possible to change screen resolution 1360x768 or so... :) | 11:14 |
| cata | i recently attached a keyboard with volume up/down and mute keys and out of the box the keys worked as expected. However after a couple of hours, they stopped working. | 11:15 |
| TheSheep | gigglefight: try using xrandr | 11:15 |
| cata | can you give me a hint on which part/subsuystem of xfce manages volume keys and where to start debuggin? | 11:15 |
| gigglefight | from terminal; how to get xrandr | 11:15 |
| cata | +g | 11:15 |
| cata | i've read about some workarounds with xfce keybindings and amixer, but as it used to work for some time, i'd like to fix the broken thing that made it work | 11:16 |
| cata | i already tried restarting xfce4-volumed with no success | 11:16 |
| TheSheep | gigglefight: type 'xrandr' | 11:16 |
| cata | when attaching to xfce4-volumed with strace it doesn't react on keypresses | 11:17 |
| gigglefight | @TheSheep: thanks. :) | 11:17 |
| cata | however the keypresses are detected in xev | 11:17 |
| TheSheep | cata: I think there is a bug in xfce4-volumed, I just bound amixer to the media keys in the keyboard settings | 11:20 |
| cata | strange. i didn't do updates before it stopped working. | 11:21 |
| Sysi | take off/on numLock | 11:21 |
| gigglefight | @TheSheep: hello again; is it possible to increase the display resolution on xubuntu? i've tried xrandr | 11:23 |
| Sysi | what graphics card? | 11:24 |
| gigglefight | I'll check | 11:24 |
| gigglefight | @Sysi: I know this kinda sounds sad... How would I find my graphic card information. i'm a newbie. | 11:27 |
| Sterist | is there a way to revert to 10.04's Theme but stay on 10.10? | 11:31 |
| gigglefight | @Sysi: it's Intel Graphics Controller | 11:32 |
| gigglefight | 82810 | 11:32 |
| Sterist | FYI 40 updates available on Proposed right now | 11:33 |
| cata | Sysi: That fixed it. how weird is that? | 11:34 |
| gigglefight | with an Intel 82810 Graphics Controller, would that support a higher resolution or different display type? if so, how to go about adjusting the screen resolution, it's only given me the option for a 800x600 resolution. | 11:34 |
| Sysi | cata: not very :/ | 11:34 |
| cata | i would have never figured that out by chance though. :) | 11:34 |
| Sysi | gigglefight: sounds a bit weird (hilight works better without @) | 11:35 |
| * cata toggles volume up and down like crazy | 11:35 | |
| gigglefight | sysi: thanks. | 11:36 |
| Sysi | Sysi does the google | 11:36 |
| Sysi | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-426133.html | 11:36 |
| daira | Hello people, i just installed fresh xubuntu on my friends notebook and although the native resolution should be 1280x800 what i get is 1600x1200 with refresh rate 0hz. When i change resoultions the screen gets scrambled, and only on 1600x1200 it holds together although there is large part of screen invisible on right and bottom. any suggestions? | 13:20 |
| daira | just to mention that only on 1200x800 i can select 60hz but the screen gets scrambled like on any other ( i have tried them all) | 13:21 |
| gr8m8 | daira: there should be something in the X log about what's going on there | 13:23 |
| daira | gr8m8, i will check the log | 13:24 |
| daira | gr8m8, can i kindly ask you to check the log @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/511621/ becouse my understanding of x is very low. | 13:28 |
| daira | thank you in advance | 13:28 |
| gr8m8 | daira: sure :] | 13:40 |
| daira | thx | 13:40 |
| gr8m8 | daira: line 171 suggests you might need to give the driver some options for the screen size in the config file | 13:44 |
| gr8m8 | daira: line 250 doesn't look good | 13:45 |
| === DBeets_ is now known as DBeets | ||
| daira | not supported : ) | 13:47 |
| daira | i am using 10.04 xubuntu, maybe an kernel update would help? | 13:47 |
| daira | fresh install | 13:48 |
| daira | with updates applied | 13:48 |
| gr8m8 | daira: unichrome driver is maybe not the best but it is the right one for your card | 13:48 |
| gr8m8 | it seems it needs you to give it alot of options in the config 'cause it can't figure it out for itself | 13:49 |
| daira | can i use some alternative? i remember in using puppy linux that there were some vesa and some other drivers that worked on almost every notebook | 13:49 |
| buffcns2 | is xubuntu lighter than normal ubuntu? | 13:49 |
| buffcns2 | I mean on cpu ram etc | 13:50 |
| gr8m8 | daira: yep - you can set a xorg.conf and name vesa as the driver - google will help - but if you give all the options in a config the unichrome driver should work better | 13:51 |
| gr8m8 | buffcns2: a little bit better - not so much lately | 13:51 |
| gr8m8 | daira: there should be some posts about unichrome xorg out there | 13:53 |
| daira_ | how should i do that, i think that i should use 1200x800 @ 60hz | 13:53 |
| buffcns2 | gr8m8, thanks, that's kinda what i thought | 13:54 |
| daira_ | if you dont know precisely i can google ofcourse and find out | 13:54 |
| gr8m8 | daira_: you can use sudo X -configure to get a base xorg.conf from a tty after you stop X with sudo service gdm stop | 13:54 |
| buffcns2 | does xubuntu still use gdm for graphical login manager like normal ubuntu? | 13:54 |
| gr8m8 | yep | 13:55 |
| buffcns2 | cheers | 13:55 |
| gr8m8 | np :] | 13:55 |
| sidh | Greetings | 13:59 |
| sidh | I would like to disable the graphical network manager in xubuntu (10.04 LTS), and use the old but reliable /etc/network/interfaces file | 14:00 |
| sidh | do you know how to do that ? | 14:00 |
| charlie-tca | a manual change in the file disables network manager control | 14:02 |
| sidh | GREAT | 14:02 |
| sidh | because, not having internet because of a Xorg problem (kernel update w/ nvidia drivers) , is quite awful and useless | 14:03 |
| daira | where is gr8m8 :) | 14:09 |
| charlie-tca | left the building? | 14:10 |
| charlie-tca | At least, left the channel | 14:10 |
| daira | can someone else help me from what i have written or do i have to start all over :) | 14:13 |
| daira | when i stopped x the screen was also scrambled | 14:14 |
| daira | so i couldnt run X -configure | 14:14 |
| daira | brb | 14:16 |
| === NastX is now known as NastY | ||
| === NastY is now known as NastX | ||
| NastX | Hi i have some a problem. I want to use xfce-notifyd for my system, but every time i try to install some kde applications, synaptic wants to remove xfce-notifyd - is there some work aorund? | 15:03 |
| NastX | *around | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | Probably not. file a bug against the kde apps for doing that? | 15:04 |
| Sysi | install it back afterwards | 15:04 |
| NastX | Sysi, if i install it back it wants to remove ALL kde apps... | 15:05 |
| NastX | this keeps bugging me | 15:05 |
| Sysi | does synaptic use aptitude? | 15:05 |
| NastX | yes | 15:05 |
| Sysi | install it with apt-get | 15:06 |
| NastX | oh wait xD | 15:06 |
| NastX | synaptic uses apt sry... | 15:06 |
| ko2 | does anyone know to install xvid codec on xubuntu 10.10? | 15:06 |
| Sysi | are you watching dvd rr file? | 15:07 |
| ko2 | "rr" ? | 15:07 |
| Sysi | *or | 15:07 |
| Sysi | !dvd | 15:07 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 15:07 |
| Sysi | oh, same factoid for both | 15:08 |
| ko2 | thanks. how about installing adobe flash player? i've the donload install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz | 15:14 |
| Sysi | xubuntu-restricted-extras also contains flash | 15:14 |
| vidd | has the official flash player been remoed from apt? | 15:14 |
| vidd | =] | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | There is a flash installer in Synaptic Package Manager | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | It automatically grabs it from adobe and installs it | 15:15 |
| ko2 | @Sysi, sttill progress download | 15:17 |
| vidd | my gksu lock seams to be not working correctly | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | huh? what is wrong with it? | 15:18 |
| vidd | it does not seam to want to take my password | 15:18 |
| vidd | but if i sudo synaptic, its just fine | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | It should be accepting it, but it will be a blank instead of the dots now | 15:19 |
| jrmy | why is xchat logging me into the server twice? | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | vidd: also, at least 10.04 and 10.10, you can't run update in terminal until the automatic run finishes. | 15:20 |
| vidd | charlie-tca, its showing dots...it just isnt taking the password | 15:20 |
| jrmy | answer me this, is xubuntu made to work on old computers? | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | jrmy: not specifically | 15:21 |
| vidd | running in terminal is fine | 15:21 |
| vidd | the gksu seems broke | 15:21 |
| jrmy | then what is xubuntu made to work for? ubuntu is just fine | 15:21 |
| jrmy | the only difference between the 2 really is gnome and xfce | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu is made to run on any computer with enough cpu and ram. It is lighter in resources thatn Ubuntu. | 15:22 |
| vidd | jrmy, there are those that like to run lighter apps then the default ubuntu fair | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | Haven't you asked this before? | 15:22 |
| jrmy | im wondering why xubuntu 10.10 wont work on either of my computers | 15:22 |
| vidd | whats the command to reinstall a package? | 15:23 |
| jrmy | yet the live cd boots just fine on a 64 bit computer | 15:23 |
| jrmy | and the live cd is 32 bit | 15:23 |
| vidd | jrmy, try installing with an alt cd | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | But you have asked the same question about xubuntu, haven't you? | 15:23 |
| jrmy | i have at least 256 MB of ram on both, the cd cannot boot on eiother of them | 15:24 |
| * vidd HATES the live cd install | 15:24 | |
| charlie-tca | and you have received the same answer before | 15:24 |
| jrmy | im trying to figure out how rtetarded xubuntu 10.10 is | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | That is starting to look like a troll | 15:25 |
| jrmy | if it cant seem to work on a computer that meets its requirements | 15:25 |
| vidd | IMO the live cd is for fixing broken systems, fixing/recovering data from windows computers, and seeing if you actually want the stuff before you install | 15:25 |
| Sysi | IMO livecd is great | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu are not guaranteed to work on any particular system unless you purchase the computer with it pre-installed. | 15:25 |
| vidd | jrmy, you need more than 256 MB ram to run the live cd | 15:25 |
| jrmy | for 10.10? | 15:26 |
| jrmy | works fine for 10.04 | 15:26 |
| Sysi | livecd and installed xubuntu have different system requirements | 15:26 |
| vidd | Sysi, i have alot of light-weight pc's....i need the garenteed install of the alt cd =] | 15:26 |
| Sysi | alternate install is slow | 15:26 |
| _maddy | hi | 15:27 |
| jrmy | ive installed 10.04 fine on both | 15:27 |
| vidd | Sysi, you have GOT to be kidding | 15:27 |
| Sysi | jrmy: keep that, LTS | 15:27 |
| jrmy | idk im annoyed at 10.10 especially cuase i cant get it working | 15:27 |
| vidd | jrmy, if you get 10.04 to work...why not just upgrade? | 15:27 |
| Sysi | vidd: honestly, i don't | 15:27 |
| jrmy | i upgraded and... | 15:28 |
| Sysi | for my experience, alternate installer is slower | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | _maddy | 15:28 |
| ubottu | _maddy: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 15:28 |
| Sysi | jrmy: just use the LTS? | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | I agree. Alternate install is slower than desktop install run side-by-side | 15:28 |
| _maddy | which program you guys recommend for torrents? | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | transmission is the default | 15:29 |
| jrmy | client? | 15:29 |
| jrmy | no way to downgrade back to 10.04 is there? | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | !downgrade | 15:31 |
| ubottu | Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system. | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | Doesn't look like it | 15:31 |
| cody-somerville | jrmy, What problem are you having? | 15:31 |
| jrmy | X and 10.10 is my problem | 15:32 |
| vidd | Sysi, charlie-tca perhaps i should revisit the live cd install for 10.10. prior versions were not to my liking..perhaps im just biased? | 15:32 |
| cody-somerville | jrmy, Could you elaborate? | 15:32 |
| vidd | jrmy, your x server keep crashing? | 15:32 |
| jrmy | it will not start | 15:32 |
| jrmy | and people have tried to help | 15:32 |
| Sysi | vidd: for 10.10 they've removed some features, but also add some | 15:32 |
| vidd | so you get the log-in screen? | 15:33 |
| jrmy | i dont know how to configure X, im to much of a noob | 15:33 |
| vidd | or does it fail prior to log-in screen? | 15:33 |
| jrmy | i boot the kernel does the check right before the login screen and.. nothing | 15:33 |
| charlie-tca | vidd: Actually, the live installer now takes away most of your choices. You won't like it | 15:33 |
| jrmy | screen black and unresponsive | 15:34 |
| vidd | jrmy, when it gets like that, can you hit [ctrl][alt][f1]? | 15:34 |
| jrmy | my X log shows that it is unable to find a proper screen | 15:34 |
| jrmy | vidd: "unresponsive" | 15:35 |
| vidd | jrmy, do you have multiple video output? | 15:35 |
| jrmy | my computer is a laptop gateway solo 1450 with an intel 83something and has a vga output | 15:36 |
| vidd | im assuming you are looking at the laptop screen | 15:36 |
| jrmy | 82830 CGC | 15:37 |
| jrmy | no im using my desktop | 15:37 |
| vidd | |0-< | 15:37 |
| vidd | on the system with the issue.... | 15:37 |
| vidd | you are looking at the laptop screen and not an external monitor | 15:38 |
| jrmy | yes | 15:38 |
| jrmy | ive tried both | 15:38 |
| jrmy | i really wish i could show you the Xorg.0.log | 15:39 |
| cody-somerville | try running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 15:39 |
| vidd | and you have succefully installed 10.4 on this laptop without issue? | 15:39 |
| jrmy | well besides some flickering in tty yes | 15:39 |
| vidd | I had similar issues with a specific laptop in a previous version.... | 15:40 |
| jrmy | not completely compatible with the kernel screen resolution it chooses for that but it works non ethe less and X works just fine | 15:40 |
| jrmy | or at least i assume it is screen res | 15:41 |
| jrmy | is there by any chance i can copy all of the Xorg.0.log file on the laptop using tty mode? | 15:42 |
| jrmy | a way* | 15:42 |
| jrmy | and shubmitting it on pastebin | 15:42 |
| jrmy | or an equivalent | 15:43 |
| vidd | so you CAN get into tty on the laptop | 15:43 |
| jrmy | yes.. X is the issue | 15:43 |
| vidd | when i asked, you said it was unresponsive =\ | 15:44 |
| jrmy | by default it boots into X | 15:44 |
| vidd | in tty run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 15:44 |
| jrmy | only way i can get to tty without editing the command or whatever in grub is by recovery mode | 15:44 |
| jrmy | sure | 15:45 |
| vidd | jrmy, did you install 10.10 by live cd, alt cd, or upgrade? | 15:46 |
| jrmy | upgrade | 15:47 |
| jrmy | i used the copmmand then startx and nothing once again | 15:47 |
| vidd | just for S&G select an older kernal version in grub | 15:48 |
| vidd | and you cant "startx" in recovery mode (unless i am mistaken) | 15:48 |
| jrmy | im very sure the log file is pertinent to my issue | 15:48 |
| vidd | im sure it is too.... | 15:49 |
| vidd | but to get it, we need access to the full system | 15:49 |
| jrmy | old kernel cant start x either its what file shave been replaced by 10.10 | 15:49 |
| jrmy | files have* | 15:49 |
| vidd | i dont need x to start | 15:49 |
| jrmy | the old ones worked | 15:49 |
| jrmy | perhaps if i knew which ones to keep when upgrading i would of done so | 15:50 |
| === NastX is now known as NastY | ||
| _maddy | can't you do a fresh install from a cd? | 15:51 |
| vidd | ??? | 15:51 |
| jrmy | however with the older kernel it doesnt bring the screen black | 15:51 |
| jrmy | but none the less i cant startx | 15:52 |
| vidd | so an older version kernael gets you up? | 15:52 |
| vidd | you can get to a tty without being in recovery mode? | 15:52 |
| jrmy | yes | 15:52 |
| vidd | good | 15:52 |
| vidd | in that version, run "sudo apt-get -f install" | 15:53 |
| vidd | tell me what happens | 15:53 |
| jrmy | 0 for upgrade, install, and remove | 15:54 |
| vidd | ok... | 15:54 |
| vidd | now run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 15:54 |
| jrmy | now what? | 15:55 |
| vidd | follow the steps on the screen | 15:55 |
| jrmy | there is nothing | 15:55 |
| vidd | it will try to fix your x server | 15:55 |
| vidd | just another prompt? | 15:56 |
| jrmy | it just does it and goes to the command entry again | 15:56 |
| vidd | type "lspci" | 15:57 |
| vidd | what vedio cards does this system have? | 15:57 |
| jrmy | i tolf you once already | 15:58 |
| vidd | you did NOT tell me the card chipset output from lspci | 15:59 |
| jrmy | an intel 82830 CGC | 15:59 |
| vidd | you dont have 2? | 15:59 |
| jrmy | well i had said so before | 15:59 |
| jrmy | both the vga port and my lvsd screen use it | 16:00 |
| jrmy | i think its called lvsd | 16:00 |
| vidd | there should be "VGA compatible controller" and "Display controller" | 16:00 |
| jrmy | right | 16:00 |
| jrmy | i'll use the command again | 16:01 |
| vidd | please tell me the entire information including the (rev#) | 16:01 |
| jrmy | only thing more you get is rev 04 for the vga | 16:02 |
| jrmy | no rev for the lvsd/ display controller | 16:02 |
| jrmy | same ship | 16:02 |
| jrmy | chip* | 16:03 |
| jrmy | one is 2 other is 2.1 for the positioning or whatever its called | 16:03 |
| vidd | if its an intel chip, it should say something like 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) | 16:03 |
| jrmy | in lsmod its says something more about that | 16:04 |
| jrmy | get rid of the part after the colon and rep[lace the 2 witrh a four and basically | 16:04 |
| jrmy | so i have to type out word for word seriously? | 16:05 |
| jrmy | when you should already know | 16:05 |
| vidd | how should i already know? | 16:06 |
| vidd | im not there looking at your screen | 16:06 |
| vidd | anyway.... | 16:06 |
| jrmy | 00:02.0 vga compatible controller: intel corporation 82830 CGC [chipset graphics controller] (rev 04) | 16:07 |
| vidd | set your kernel boot parameters to "Safe Graphics Mode" | 16:07 |
| jrmy | 00:02.0 display controller: intel corporation 82830 CGC [chipset graphics controller] | 16:07 |
| vidd | also, try disabling kernel mode setting | 16:07 |
| jrmy | whoops .1* | 16:08 |
| jrmy | 00.02.1 should be for display | 16:08 |
| jrmy | i donty know how to disable kernel mode | 16:09 |
| vidd | i figured that | 16:09 |
| jrmy | nmor do i know how to boot in safe graphics mode | 16:09 |
| jrmy | nor* | 16:09 |
| vidd | check out http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2010/02/intel-82830-cgc-830m-graphics.html | 16:09 |
| jrmy | one sec | 16:09 |
| vidd | step-by-step instructions for disabling kernel mode | 16:10 |
| _maddy | any idea why Transmission gives error "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." but still the download works? | 16:10 |
| jrmy | 16:11 | |
| jrmy | -+ | 16:11 |
| jrmy | sorry i dropped my keyboard | 16:11 |
| jrmy | anyways i have to take someone to work on short notice | 16:12 |
| vidd | jrmy, near the middle of his post there is info about editing grub....that is what you want | 16:12 |
| jrmy | i opened the link vidd | 16:12 |
| jrmy | and ok | 16:12 |
| maxamillion | cody-somerville: what were you talking about? | 16:12 |
| vidd | !hi | maxamillion | 16:12 |
| ubottu | maxamillion: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 16:12 |
| maxamillion | vidd: hello | 16:13 |
| maxamillion | vidd: long time no see | 16:13 |
| vidd | ive been busy | 16:13 |
| maxamillion | ha! did you really just shoot me a bot message :P | 16:13 |
| cody-somerville | lol | 16:13 |
| jrmy | ah, ive disabled kernel before | 16:13 |
| jrmy | doesnt work | 16:13 |
| vidd | work's been a nightmare....kid just started kindergarden | 16:13 |
| jrmy | bbl vidd | 16:13 |
| maxamillion | vidd: oh wow | 16:14 |
| vidd | my oldest is having my second grandchild next month | 16:15 |
| maxamillion | vidd: congrats! | 16:17 |
| vidd | you only say that cuzz you dont know her might-as-well-be-husband | 16:17 |
| maxamillion | vidd: ah, I do not ... | 16:18 |
| vidd | =] | 16:18 |
| vidd | but this is a help chat for computer issues.... | 16:19 |
| maxamillion | vidd: rgr that | 16:19 |
| vidd | where throwing the problem out the fortyith story window onto an empty parking lot does NOT get you a jail term | 16:19 |
| vidd | =] | 16:20 |
| maxamillion | lol | 16:20 |
| vidd | do we know when/if the xterm issue will be fixed? | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | It is already in proposes for testing | 16:42 |
| vidd | so....a week or less? | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | I think we will see the fix within a week at the most | 16:42 |
| vidd | i hope so | 16:43 |
| vidd | i like using nano to edit config files | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | me too. That bug is getting a LOT of dups | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | I just add gedit to my desktop | 16:43 |
| Sysi | switch to other terminal emulator for while | 16:44 |
| vidd | mousepad does the trick...but its ANNOYING! | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | They did fix terminator differently | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | but it was the same bug. The fix this time will be in VTE, which will fix everything | 16:44 |
| vidd | i hope it happens soon.... | 16:45 |
| vidd | i have 5 machines in need | 16:45 |
| vidd | an two more waiting to upgrade | 16:45 |
| jrmy | ok im back | 16:46 |
| vidd | jrmy, on that page i sent you the link to.... | 16:46 |
| jrmy | so you want me yto boot 10.10 anbd do safe graphics? | 16:46 |
| jrmy | as in the live cd | 16:47 |
| vidd | yes | 16:47 |
| vidd | not nesisarrily the live cd.... | 16:47 |
| jrmy | explain otherwise how i do this? | 16:47 |
| jrmy | -? | 16:47 |
| vidd | follow the instructions to have grub boot your system into safe grafix mode | 16:47 |
| jrmy | it says to push F4 then boot | 16:47 |
| vidd | look further down the page | 16:48 |
| jrmy | next step try ubuntu without installing | 16:48 |
| vidd | further down | 16:48 |
| vidd | way further | 16:48 |
| jrmy | ok where? | 16:49 |
| vidd | where it talks about grub | 16:49 |
| jrmy | safe graphics still correect? | 16:49 |
| vidd | right...but set grub | 16:49 |
| jrmy | ok so setting grub to do safe graphics | 16:50 |
| vidd | right | 16:50 |
| vidd | and where it says "gedit" use "nano" since you dont have a grafic environment to work in | 16:50 |
| jrmy | explain | 16:51 |
| jrmy | cause youre not making sense | 16:51 |
| jrmy | none of that mentions "safe graphics mode" | 16:51 |
| vidd | there are steps like "open gedit" | 16:51 |
| vidd | you cant open gedit because your xserver wont load | 16:52 |
| jrmy | it talks about disabling kernel mode.. | 16:52 |
| jrmy | make yourself clear | 16:52 |
| vidd | so you have to open the files in a cli text editor like nano | 16:52 |
| jrmy | !nano | 16:53 |
| ubottu | Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code | 16:53 |
| vidd | READ THE PAGE | 16:53 |
| jrmy | i have | 16:53 |
| jrmy | i dont see hwat youre talking about | 16:53 |
| jrmy | i915.modeset=0 does not work i repeat a second time | 16:54 |
| jrmy | err once | 16:54 |
| jrmy | is this your "safe grahpics mode"? | 16:55 |
| jrmy | safe graphics mode = i915.modeste=0? | 16:55 |
| jrmy | modeset* | 16:55 |
| jrmy | i said this before i left | 16:56 |
| jrmy | that it didnt work | 16:56 |
| jrmy | i hate going through these steps again | 16:56 |
| jrmy | if they didnt work the first time in grub why will it work with nano? | 16:57 |
| jrmy | are they essentially the same? | 16:57 |
| vidd | add this to your grub entry: | 16:57 |
| vidd | i915.modeset=0 nomodeset | 16:57 |
| jrmy | ctrl alt F7 aka X is stuck on the pre boot screen | 16:59 |
| jrmy | but im in tty mode firstly | 16:59 |
| ovrflw0x | i installed 10.10 on sony vaio vgc-fw12 brightness Fn keys don't work! | 17:00 |
| ovrflw0x | vgn*-fw12 | 17:00 |
| jrmy | aka the screen that has the asterisks and says stuff that it loads for X or at least i assume its loading for X | 17:00 |
| jrmy | sound and battery are in this screen | 17:00 |
| ovrflw0x | anybody? | 17:02 |
| jrmy | i believe you can make them work again by customiing them | 17:02 |
| jrmy | customiing them* | 17:02 |
| ovrflw0x | from where? | 17:02 |
| jrmy | i dont know if it is the same as 10.04 however | 17:02 |
| vidd | jrmy, you have a login screen? or a prompt for safe grafix mode? | 17:03 |
| jrmy | i cant get X to boot on mine | 17:03 |
| jrmy | none of these vidd | 17:03 |
| jrmy | just tty | 17:03 |
| jrmy | vidd more then likely if i try startx it'll go black again | 17:04 |
| vidd | worse come to worse you can always remove/purge x11-common (and all grfical stuff dependant thereon) and reinstall xubuntu-desktop | 17:04 |
| jrmy | if i could reinstall xubuntu-desktop from 10.04 it would | 17:04 |
| vidd | why are you typing startx? | 17:04 |
| jrmy | lol | 17:04 |
| jrmy | starts x does it not? | 17:05 |
| vidd | i dont believe so | 17:05 |
| ovrflw0x | vidd, how to make this Fn keys work man i can't lower the freakin brightness | 17:05 |
| jrmy | !startx | 17:05 |
| vidd | ovrflw0x, dunno | 17:05 |
| jrmy | does fn down and up work? | 17:06 |
| jrmy | thats how it worked for me | 17:06 |
| vidd | jrmy, i restart x by sending the command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" | 17:06 |
| jrmy | well idk | 17:08 |
| jrmy | want to see the log yet? | 17:08 |
| jrmy | Xor.0.log | 17:08 |
| jrmy | xorg* | 17:09 |
| jrmy | i wish i knew commands casue i could probably fix it myself | 17:09 |
| jrmy | but who knows if i even know the issue | 17:09 |
| vidd | can you upload them now? | 17:09 |
| jrmy | upload the log? | 17:10 |
| vidd | ye | 17:10 |
| vidd | s | 17:10 |
| jrmy | as in to a pastebin or show them on my screen | 17:10 |
| vidd | into a pastebin | 17:10 |
| jrmy | i can less /var/log/Xorg.0.log but i dont know how to put it on a pastebin from this computer | 17:11 |
| jrmy | there is no way im going to type everything out onto this computer that im talking with | 17:11 |
| vidd | does the computer you are currently on have an ftp or openssh server on it? | 17:12 |
| jrmy | it had ssh but i dont know about the server part | 17:12 |
| vidd | actually, you would want the openssh server on the problem computer | 17:12 |
| jrmy | i used it to connect to the one im on now but not the other | 17:12 |
| jrmy | but i suppose i could sudo apt-get install openssh-server | 17:13 |
| vidd | on the broke machine, type "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" | 17:13 |
| jrmy | however knowing how to get the rsa code is another story | 17:13 |
| jrmy | ok it already is | 17:14 |
| vidd | with ssh server on the broken machine, you can remote into the broke machine, display the contents of the log file, highlight, copy, paste to pastebin from good computer | 17:14 |
| jrmy | ahead of you already | 17:15 |
| jrmy | lol | 17:15 |
| vidd | spelling it out for others who may read this later with similar issues | 17:16 |
| jrmy | im just suprised i didnt hink about this before | 17:16 |
| vidd | when you asked if i wanted to read the log file, i had assumed you already did this =] | 17:16 |
| jrmy | lol | 17:17 |
| jrmy | nope | 17:17 |
| jrmy | im learning | 17:17 |
| vidd | its what i get for assuming | 17:18 |
| vidd | =] | 17:18 |
| jrmy | anyways the important stuff will be past the modes on the bottom | 17:18 |
| jrmy | http://paste2.org/p/1033795 | 17:18 |
| jrmy | or at least i assume | 17:18 |
| vidd | having log files is always better than not having log files =\ | 17:18 |
| jrmy | i dont know what is and isnt so important in the log file | 17:19 |
| vidd | xorg is looking for /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d | 17:20 |
| vidd | and /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic | 17:21 |
| jrmy | neither exist i assume | 17:21 |
| jrmy | brb | 17:22 |
| vidd | is this a 64-bit system or a 32-bit system? | 17:23 |
| jrmy | back | 17:23 |
| jrmy | 32 | 17:24 |
| jrmy | i havent had a new computer since liek 99 i think | 17:24 |
| vidd | not the version you put on...but the processor | 17:24 |
| vidd | kk | 17:24 |
| jrmy | laptop was from the same year i believe | 17:24 |
| jrmy | which i got for free recently | 17:24 |
| vidd | found the issue | 17:25 |
| jrmy | good | 17:25 |
| jrmy | so was i correct with the log file being pertinent? | 17:25 |
| vidd | xorg is trying to set resolution to 640x480 and your monitor does not support that mode | 17:26 |
| vidd | Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration | 17:26 |
| jrmy | right | 17:26 |
| jrmy | ive been wanting to know how to fix that | 17:26 |
| vidd | let me do some research real quick | 17:27 |
| jrmy | k | 17:27 |
| vidd | sudo Xorg -configure | 17:28 |
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| vidd | jrmy, you may need to kill your xserver to run that | 17:29 |
| jrmy | i'll paste2 what it says | 17:30 |
| jrmy | http://paste2.org/p/1033811 | 17:30 |
| vidd | jrmy, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution | 17:31 |
| vidd | for now, choose vesa | 17:31 |
| jrmy | what? | 17:33 |
| jrmy | ah, ok | 17:33 |
| * jrmy asked ubottu | 17:34 | |
| jrmy | ok so use vesa | 17:34 |
| vidd | once the new xorg config file is set, reboot and take out the adjustments to the grub entry | 17:35 |
| jrmy | as in i915.modeset blah blah blah? | 17:36 |
| jrmy | im still reading btw | 17:36 |
| vidd | yes | 17:36 |
| jrmy | well xrandr is useless since x wont initiate but i know my monitor can use 1024 by 768 which is what i liek using anyways | 17:36 |
| jrmy | so yeah | 17:37 |
| vidd | its not "useless" just "currently not available" | 17:38 |
| vidd | once we get x to load, then we use xrandr to fix it up | 17:38 |
| jrmy | well the manual for xorg.conf is a bit overwhelming | 17:43 |
| jrmy | nor do i know what most of it means | 17:43 |
| jrmy | cant i just use nano to write it? | 17:43 |
| jrmy | why do they make it so complicated? | 17:43 |
| jrmy | perhaps i'd rather have things indexed | 17:44 |
| vidd | if you know where to put it, then yes, you can use nano to write it | 17:44 |
| Sysi | (thanks for talking about that i915.modeset=0 i fixed one error in my system with that) | 17:44 |
| jrmy | indexing makes things easier for me i believe | 17:44 |
| vidd | but if you set some settings incorrectly, you can cause physical damage to your monitor | 17:44 |
| jrmy | well physical damage wouldnt be good no | 17:45 |
| vidd | Sysi, no problem...please pay at the door =] | 17:45 |
| jrmy | heh | 17:45 |
| jrmy | well im close to fixing it i assume.. yet it seems like a big leap | 17:46 |
| vidd | Sysi, your fee is three helpful instructions =] | 17:46 |
| Sysi | about? :) | 17:47 |
| vidd | anything you can help with | 17:47 |
| jrmy | if i saved the newly written config file as /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d then i assume the system will find it and if i wrote it correctly X will work | 17:48 |
| vidd | from the help ive recieved over the years, i only have 749,613 instructions left to go =] | 17:48 |
| jrmy | however it also depends if it lets me overwrite it | 17:48 |
| vidd | jrmy, no...you dont want to overwrite the .d..... | 17:48 |
| vidd | that is an app | 17:49 |
| jrmy | .d is default? | 17:49 |
| vidd | no..its what makes xorg work | 17:49 |
| jrmy | once again something else i dont understand | 17:49 |
| vidd | you should save it as xorg.conf | 17:49 |
| jrmy | can i edit said app? | 17:49 |
| jrmy | oh | 17:49 |
| jrmy | well ok | 17:49 |
| jrmy | same directory? | 17:50 |
| jrmy | and will it know to find it? | 17:50 |
| vidd | it should | 17:50 |
| knome | /etc/X11/Xorg.conf | 17:51 |
| vidd | the ".d" indicates its a deamon | 17:51 |
| jrmy | or do i use /home/jrmy/xorg.conf.new? | 17:51 |
| vidd | knome, tyvery much | 17:51 |
| vidd | jrmy, /etc/X11/Xorg.conf | 17:51 |
| knome | np | 17:51 |
| vidd | knome, btw...awesome artwork this release | 17:52 |
| jrmy | so overwrite this file if it exists | 17:52 |
| knome | vidd, good to hear you like | 17:52 |
| knome | +it | 17:52 |
| knome | vidd, and thanks | 17:52 |
| vidd | overwrite /etc/X11/Xorg.conf if it exists | 17:52 |
| vidd | most likely it does not | 17:52 |
| jrmy | ok now i just need to know what to write | 17:53 |
| vidd | it is important that you set the path correctly | 17:53 |
| jrmy | heh | 17:53 |
| jrmy | how do i "save as" with nano? | 17:53 |
| judgen | jrmy, how much video ram does the system tell you that you have on that laptop? | 17:53 |
| vidd | [ctrl] [x] | 17:53 |
| jrmy | in bios it says *MB | 17:53 |
| vidd | then correct the path | 17:53 |
| jrmy | ctrl x exits nano | 17:54 |
| jrmy | 8* | 17:54 |
| vidd | yes...and when it exits it prompts to save | 17:54 |
| knome | jrmy, ctrl+O (save) asks for path | 17:54 |
| vidd | you can accept the stated path, or change it | 17:54 |
| jrmy | judgen: how do i check for video ram otherwise? | 17:54 |
| judgen | Bios does not matter in this equation. Your laptop is very well documented with a buggy bios if it is newer than 30.* and it only makes 1mb available to Linux and other OS'es (except windows wich can use the full 8 mb) | 17:54 |
| jrmy | lsmod? | 17:55 |
| jrmy | then video | 17:55 |
| jrmy | er modinfo video | 17:55 |
| jrmy | or just modinfo video | 17:55 |
| judgen | lspci | 17:56 |
| judgen | then see what number your gfx card has | 17:56 |
| jrmy | 00:02.0 and 00:02.1 | 17:56 |
| jrmy | yes? | 17:56 |
| judgen | then this is my example "lspci -v -s 00:02.0" | 17:56 |
| jrmy | or is it the rev # | 17:56 |
| jrmy | ok | 17:57 |
| jrmy | so do i want the display controller or the vga controller? | 17:57 |
| judgen | vga should be the one | 17:57 |
| vidd | jrmy, that is the 00:02:0 | 17:58 |
| jrmy | yeah 00.02.1 didnt work anyways | 17:58 |
| vidd | pastebin the results | 17:59 |
| judgen | ok | 17:59 |
| judgen | you should have 512kb non-prefetchable and 7,5-8mb with prefetchable video ram | 18:00 |
| judgen | if your bios works properly | 18:00 |
| jrmy | http://paste2.org/p/1033850 used -v and -s with the command and got this | 18:01 |
| jrmy | my biso version is 36.00.16 i believe | 18:01 |
| jrmy | which apparently is the older one | 18:01 |
| judgen | good =D | 18:02 |
| vidd | jrmy, you have your xorg set up now? | 18:02 |
| jrmy | verdict? | 18:02 |
| jrmy | no | 18:02 |
| jrmy | i dont know how entirely | 18:02 |
| jrmy | i know i can use nano and i need certain info but how to write it in the language it reads is above my head | 18:03 |
| jrmy | so what does it say my vram is? | 18:04 |
| jrmy | i dont know how to read it | 18:04 |
| jrmy | ok well i have to go get food now.. im hungry so bbiab | 18:05 |
| judgen | ok this question must be silly, but i have missed some of the conversation.. Have you installed the intel 915 drivers, deleted the xorg.conf and ran a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" ? | 18:05 |
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| jrmy | i am back | 19:46 |
| jrmy | judgen: no i havent installed any drivers | 19:52 |
| jrmy | there is drivers i can install? | 19:52 |
| jrmy | im suprised no one has said anything | 19:52 |
| jrmy | if that fixes it then derp | 19:53 |
| jrmy | anyone here? | 19:53 |
| jrmy | apparently it didnt work judgen when i tired remobing the module then getting the drivers | 20:10 |
| DBeets | !LTS | 20:17 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) | 20:17 |
| DBeets | !lucid | 20:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 | 20:17 |
| Sysi | !investigation | 20:17 |
| ubottu | Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". | 20:17 |
| charlie-tca | Update is out for TERM issue. Just need to run updates | 20:24 |
| Sysi | wohou | 20:24 |
| TheSheep | yay | 20:28 |
| kaolbrec | \o/ | 20:28 |
| TheSheep | an advantage of the dumb terminal: debconf won't block updates with its silly dialogs :D | 20:30 |
| jrmy | i dont want physical damage to my laptops video chip so im probably not going to be writing a Xorg.conf anytime soon | 20:42 |
| spy6 | hi there | 21:14 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | spy6 | 21:15 |
| ubottu | spy6: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 21:15 |
| spy6 | anyhow the theming of the panels got lost on update | 21:15 |
| spy6 | any idea hot to reset them to default? | 21:15 |
| spy6 | s/hot/how/ | 21:15 |
| charlie-tca | !panels | 21:19 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | The community page tells how to reset them completely | 21:19 |
| spy6 | charlie-tca: thanks | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 21:25 |
| spy6 | hmm .. i guess there is any theming missing | 21:36 |
| spy6 | "/etc/xdg/xfce4/panel" is just the xfce default, but not the xubuntu defaults | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | That is where xubuntu gets its default panel | 21:37 |
| spy6 | hmmm | 21:39 |
| spy6 | okay ... how to recover the theme shown at xubuntu.org? :) | 21:45 |
| spy6 | is that theme "albatros"? | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | change you theme in Applications -> Settings -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Appearance to albatross, then change | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | Window Manager theme to albatross | 21:48 |
| mark76 | Which version of Xubuntu? | 21:48 |
| mark76 | It's Bluebird in 10.10 | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | 10.04 and 10.10 | 21:48 |
| mark76 | Albatross is so last year :p | 21:49 |
| charlie-tca | mark76: the theme shown at http://xubuntu.org is albatross | 21:49 |
| mark76 | http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/xubuntu-10.10-screenshot-theme.png&imgrefurl=http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/47566&usg=__dqnwqmP2NWqBJHhqjS5M5M1SLLA=&h=301&w=400&sz=117&hl=en&start=3&sig2=a0KlNixZ7xpL-PxBaWJgRw&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=DuMpTIzcf8vVuM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3DXubuntu%2B10.10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=JMq0TJi-OYnN | 21:51 |
| mark76 | 4gb4ne2fDQ | 21:51 |
| mark76 | Dear God! | 21:51 |
| mark76 | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/47566 | 21:51 |
| mark76 | Much nicer :) | 21:55 |
| Makdaam | hello | 21:55 |
| Makdaam | I've got a problem with my Intel i915 + ATI Mobility Radeon combo | 21:55 |
| mark76 | Is it an Xfce4 problem, Makdaam? | 21:58 |
| mark76 | Hey jrmy | 21:59 |
| Makdaam | nope | 22:00 |
| Makdaam | :) | 22:00 |
| Makdaam | but there's noone on #ubuntu that would help me | 22:00 |
| Makdaam | it's probably X related or driver/kernel related | 22:01 |
| Wizard | hi | 22:01 |
| Wizard | I have unusual problem :D | 22:01 |
| Makdaam | BTW where's xorg.conf in 10.04? | 22:01 |
| spy6 | hmmm.... | 22:01 |
| spy6 | makdaam: maybe you haven't one | 22:02 |
| mark76 | Yeah. Trying to get help in the Ubuntu room can be a bit like shouting into the wind at times | 22:02 |
| charlie-tca | Normally there is no xorg.conf anymore | 22:02 |
| spy6 | in this case its generated on the fly | 22:02 |
| Wizard | i've found a song, most of it is in polish, last verse is in some romance language | 22:02 |
| Wizard | any spaniards, portuguese, romanians, moldovans, italians here? :D | 22:02 |
| Makdaam | how do I dump it into a file? | 22:02 |
| mark76 | :/ | 22:02 |
| spy6 | hmm ... my menu is grey .. the rest of my workspace is black .. did i miss anything related to the menu? | 22:03 |
| Makdaam | Wizard: try unilang | 22:03 |
| Wizard | i don't have proper lyrics | 22:03 |
| jrmy | hey mark76 | 22:03 |
| Wizard | i have only a link to song | 22:04 |
| Wizard | ;P | 22:04 |
| Wizard | i don't even know where to look for help | 22:04 |
| mark76 | Berlitz? | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | spy6: you changed both window manager and appearance themes to albatross? | 22:04 |
| Makdaam | Wizard, I'd try unilang :) it's a forum centred on languages... | 22:06 |
| Wizard | k, i'll try | 22:07 |
| Wizard | hmm #romanian exists | 22:07 |
| Makdaam | heh, problem solved | 22:31 |
| Wizard | yup | 22:31 |
| Makdaam | HP not only makes lousy PCs, has incompetent tech support, but also lies about laptop specs | 22:31 |
| Wizard | and probably messes acpi | 22:32 |
| Makdaam | I got a sigsegv in glxgears/glxinfo and anything OpenGL related because Mesa tried to use the ATI Radeon... which is not a part of this laptop | 22:32 |
| Wizard | :) | 22:34 |
| Wizard | kewl | 22:35 |
| xubuntu116 | hola | 23:05 |
| xubuntu116 | hola | 23:05 |
| xubuntu116 | hola | 23:05 |
| xubuntu116 | que hay | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | !english | 23:06 |
| ubottu | The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 23:06 |
| xubuntu116 | only english? | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 23:06 |
| xubuntu116 | why? | 23:06 |
| charlie-tca | There are other channels that are language specific | 23:06 |
| vidd | !es | 23:07 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. | 23:07 |
| xubuntu116 | ok | 23:07 |
| xubuntu116 | thnaks | 23:07 |
| vidd | de nada | 23:07 |
| vidd | i hope he(?) was looking for spanish =] | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | apparently, he did not want english, huh? | 23:15 |
| vidd | most like his english is sketchy | 23:17 |
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