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apacheloggershadeslayer: nice07:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: how about error handling? :P07:55
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MiMeWhat is the minimum requirements to join the development team?10:01
persiaSo, an annoying bug was discovered for all preinstalled omap4 installs: specifically there is a "software channel" for the software centre enabled to connect to a special vendor PPA that expects universe to be enabled, but universe isn't enabled.10:59
persiaIs this bug likely to even be user-visible for Kubuntu?10:59
Riddellpersia: well no, we don't use Software Centre11:01
persiaRiddell, I didn't think so: just wanted to confirm.  Does KPK use software channels at all?11:08
Riddellit uses /usr/share/app-install/categories.xml11:16
Riddellnot sure if it uses any others like that11:16
persiaNo, that's sufficiently different that the Kubuntu images won't be affected.11:17
Riddellkpackagekit uses its own desktop.db file which is made from app-install-data11:17
persiaIf someone adds extra channels (like app-install-data-partner), do those show there as well?11:18
Riddellcor, nothing but good comments for Kubuntu on the Ubuntu 10.10 article on slashdot11:37
Riddellwe rock11:37
nigelbRiddell: +1 to that :)11:40
apacheloggerat installation I ticked the box "install the stuff I need to play me mp3s"11:41
apacheloggernow I fire up rekonq11:41
apacheloggerand notification pops up to install stuff11:41
* nigelb hopes to have kubuntu maverick on laptop tonight :)11:41
apacheloggerI say install and it offers Video Encoding and MP3 Encoding11:41
apacheloggerand that my dear friends is why those big categories for missing stuff just don't work out11:42
persiaapachelogger, kubuntu-restricted-addons only has decoders, not encoders.  You may need to filter some of the autocodec searchers.11:42
apacheloggerthere is no search going on11:42
apacheloggerthe apps that require stuff call the kubuntu notification helper11:43
apachelogger*with* the thing they would like to have11:43
apacheloggerand the notification helper then puts all that foo into a category and recommends installing that category11:43
apacheloggerso rekonq supposedly wants flash -> asks notification helper -> helper looks up flash -> flash is in multimedia category -> helper asks user to install all the stuff that is in the multimedia category11:44
apacheloggerin my case those are 2 completely and utterly unrelated things to rekonq11:44
Riddellhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/kubuntu-on-netbooks-10020749/  nice review, guy seems curiously impressed by compositing effects11:48
Riddellagateau: do we need a session at UDS for Kubuntu and DX?12:07
agateauRiddell: don't think so12:08
agateauRiddell: except if you want to discuss the c.a fiasco12:08
Riddellc.a fiasco?12:10
agateauRiddell: dbusmenu-qt copyright assignment... :/12:26
Riddelloh aye12:27
Riddellagateau: there's problems with the copyright assignment, I don't know if there's any chance of them getting fixed though, I might ask rick if he thinks it would be worth having a session about that12:28
agateauRiddell: I was ranting, I don't think there is a need for a session on the subject12:29
Riddellwe may as well try12:30
* apachelogger is sitting in the most boring lecture like ever12:33
Riddellspecs registered https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty13:25
Riddellapachelogger: who from ubuntu one should I subscribe to the appdevs-kubuntu-n-ubuntu-one spec?13:38
apacheloggerRiddell: better ask in #ubuntuone who is interested I suppose13:38
Riddellrbelem: pnig14:03
Riddellwhatever a pnig is14:03
rbelemRiddell, :-D14:03
Riddellyou're not on the confirmed list for UDS, you need to contact jcastro to confirm if you're going14:04
rbelemRiddell, ok! I will ping him ;-)14:04
rbelemthx :-)14:05
rbelemRiddell, done :-)14:08
Quintasan_DroidUpdate broke my nVidia driver14:27
Quintasan_Droidnot update to maverick but a typical apt-get update and upgrade14:28
rbelemQuintasan_Droid, to fix that, just apt-get install --install nvidia-current14:40
rbelemi experienced this issue too after upgrading14:40
Quintasan_Droidrbelem: thanks14:45
Quintasan_DroidMaybe you also know solution to this14:45
Quintasan_DroidWhenever I restart my PC using the buttons on the box itself my monitor claims to have no input signal, it flashes through digital and analog input. Usually I power it off, wait for few minutes and it works but wating is getting annoying14:47
Quintasan_DroidI have no idea what might be the issue, I 'm pretty sure cables are undamaged14:48
Quintasan_DroidMaybe Trouble came here and is sitting on my cables?14:49
* Trouble gets off Quintasan's cables14:49
TroubleI should lose weight14:50
Quintasan_DroidJust what did I do to experience so damn annoying things14:50
alvinQuintasan_Droid: It might be bug 62697414:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 626974 in Ubuntu release notes "ABI change in xorg 1.9 breaks legacy nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers in Maverick" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62697414:50
alvinQuintasan_Droid: What's the model of your card?14:51
Quintasan_Droidalvin: well, let me first somehow get my monitor working, GeForce. GTX 25014:51
Quintasan_DroidOr something along these lines14:51
alvinThen it's not this bug.14:52
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1185492 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DownloadModel/DownloadDelegate.cpp Space text a little so that it isn't painted right on the border14:54
Quintasan_DroidWhat the heck is wrong with my monitor14:54
Quintasan_DroidIt was working normally few weeks ago?14:55
rbelemQuintasan_Droid, no idea, maybe the problem is with the video card15:01
rbelemQuintasan, try it on another pc15:01
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1185494 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/PackageWidget.h SVN_SILENT: Include fixes15:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh yes, error handling, but theres a small issue with that patch right now, when i type / in rekonq urlbar, it doest start file browsing mode, idk if thats a issue with my system  or the patch itself :D15:14
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shadeslayervalorie: i feel your pain ... thats why i keep all my data on /Data :P15:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://pastebin.com/L0JpbQu915:36
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1185507 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Move the header code an searchbar code into PackageWidget. This way we don't have to add widgets from subclasses, and can use KVBox again. The splitter sizes are now proper.15:48
Riddellrickspencer3: hola, are you able to approve specs for UDS?15:57
rickspencer3Riddell, I guess so, yeah15:57
rickspencer3Riddell, wanna paste me some links, I'll go ahead and approve for you15:58
Riddellrickspencer3: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty these ones please15:58
rickspencer3just approve all of them?15:59
Riddellrickspencer3: yes please16:00
Riddellrickspencer3: well not approve, accept for UDS-N16:00
Riddellrickspencer3: thanks16:00
Riddellrickspencer3: is there any point in having a discussion about the contributor agreement at UDS?16:01
rickspencer3Riddell, hmmm16:01
rickspencer3depends on the content and context, I suppos16:01
Riddellseeing if it can be changed to make it acceptable to people who currently have specific objections16:02
rickspencer3Riddell, I would talk to sabdfl and amanda about it16:03
rickspencer3Riddell, fwiw, I just asked jono to give you all the powers in LP that you will need to manage Kubuntu blueprints, scheduling, etc...16:03
* rickspencer3 hands keys to Riddel16:03
Riddellagateau: do you need a session with Qt people about getting dbusmenu into Qt?16:04
agateauRiddell: could be useful, but I think there will be a canonical-nokia private meeting16:05
agateauRiddell: err, should have said "could be useful unless a canonical-nokia private meeting is planned"16:06
RiddellI might schedule a general qt patch review and could include that as a topic16:06
agateauRiddell: good plan16:06
Riddellsince it's our biggest patch :)16:06
agateauRiddell: fyi I turned appmenu support into a plugin in my Qt branch, as requested by Nokia devs, hopefully this will go in soon16:08
shadeslayerRiddell: btw after installing neon, you just started it with /opt/bin/startkde?16:09
shadeslayerand it automatically set the vars and stuff?16:09
Riddellshadeslayer: I didn't start a whole session, just individual apps16:10
shadeslayerah ok16:10
Quintasanrbelem: still nothing16:17
rbelemQuintasan, even on another pc?16:17
rbelemQuintasan, or the nvidia?16:18
QuintasanI mean the driver16:18
rbelemQuintasan, boot with the latest kernel that is installed and then dpkg -P nvidia-current; apt-get install nvidia-current16:19
rbelemQuintasan, try that and paste the result to me :-) use screen and byobu16:20
QuintasanIt wants to rebuild the module but claims there is no kernel source16:21
Quintasanbut I have it installed16:21
Riddellhi mgraesslin, I registered a Kubuntu and xorg session at UDS, anything else you'd like sessions on? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty16:27
QuintasanRiddell: anything you would like to see in Project Neon?16:34
* txwikinger wonders about a docky for KDE16:37
RiddellQuintasan: umbrello!16:40
QuintasanAnd what on earth is that?16:40
Riddellmy pride and joy16:40
Riddellwell before I did Kubuntu anyway :)16:40
Riddelldo you have kdesdk?16:40
QuintasanInstalled? Nope. Packaged in P-N? Yes16:41
QuintasanIs this awesome?16:45
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Riddelltotally awesome16:47
RiddellQuintasan: does a full neon session work?16:47
QuintasanRiddell: I do not know, I think I will work on it after we get all modules packaged16:48
QuintasanI need to change all the Descriptions in control files to make it look somehow uniform16:49
Quintasannot some random CAPS LOCK INGENIOUS BLABBERING16:49
RiddellQuintasan: it seems to me like neon is ready for some publicity16:50
QuintasanWell, I hope to package the rest of modules today16:50
Quintasanand I think we can get a Session entry in no time16:50
QuintasanWhere are my minions?16:50
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^^16:50
QuintasanSession entry for X16:52
Quintasanwhere the hell are bindings?16:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: you were supposed to be working on them16:52
shadeslayerand entry for X16:52
QuintasanI thought I requested a build yesterday16:52
shadeslayerloads of machines are down i think16:52
shadeslayeronly 3-4 PPA builders16:53
shadeslayer( for each arch )16:53
QuintasanApparently there is no recipe16:53
QuintasanI wonder why.16:53
Quintasanshadeslayer: Well, I'm giving the entry for X to you so you can have the honour of putting everything in motion :P16:54
Quintasanpbuilding kdebindings16:54
Quintasanwish me luck16:54
Quintasanand we need to work on that python crap16:55
shadeslayeralso we need to keep a seprate cache for neon16:56
Quintasanany idead how to set this up?16:56
Quintasanstill no edu lucid builds16:56
shadeslayerapachelogger said to look at the earlier scripts16:56
Quintasanoh god16:57
shadeslayeri found the var, but how do we proceed? patch svn packages?16:57
Quintasanpatching svn?16:57
shadeslayersame goes for X entry16:57
shadeslayerwe could put X entry in meta package16:57
Quintasando we have any other way to go around it?16:57
shadeslayerbut then it wont be a meta package :P16:57
Quintasanfor X entry - I agree16:57
shadeslayerQuintasan: no idea about other way16:57
QuintasanWho cares what is inside when it works?16:58
shadeslayerhehe :P16:58
Quintasanmissing deps on edut16:58
shadeslayerand then we have the issue of bashrc and such16:58
shadeslayerthe proper env vars16:58
Quintasanwhat is the issue with bashrc?17:00
QuintasanI get it17:00
QuintasanI think we need to ask apachelogger 17:01
QuintasanI have no idea how to deal with that17:01
shadeslayerme neither 17:01
shadeslayermaybe we should ship bashrc_neon in our meta package17:01
shadeslayerand patch konsole to use that as default17:01
Quintasanmakes sense17:02
Quintasanhmm edu build for lucid requested17:02
Quintasanbindings are building17:02
* shadeslayer still has weird issue with rekonq 17:04
Quintasan!info python-sip-dev17:20
ubottupython-sip-dev (source: sip4-qt3): Python/C++ bindings generator development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.5-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 331 kB, installed size 1300 kB17:20
QuintasanWe need 4.11 or later17:20
Riddellrickspencer3: please accept https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-qt-patch-review17:25
rickspencer3Riddell, done17:26
apacheloggerQuintasan: ask apachelogger what?17:53
Quintasanask apachelogger about asking apachelogger logger17:57
Quintasanapachelogger: 17:58 < shadeslayer> and then we have the issue of bashrc and such17:58
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^^17:58
shadeslayeroh yes17:58
apacheloggerwhat issue?17:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok so we start up neon, launch bash, wont konsole pick up settings from ~/.bashrc17:59
shadeslayerthe issue being, the environment vars are picked from stable install17:59
apacheloggerif you export the environment as part of the KDE startup it will pick up those18:00
shadeslayerso launching a app ( say rekonq ) will make it start from /usr/local/bin/rekonq, instead of /opt/usr/local/bin/rekonq18:00
shadeslayerah so we have to patch startkde18:00
shadeslayerand how do we ship our neon entry for KDM?18:01
QuintasanNattys archives are not open yet?18:01
shadeslayerQuintasan: no18:01
* Quintasan is too lazy to package new SIP18:01
QuintasanI wonder what version debian has18:01
shadeslayerweird rekonq18:02
shadeslayerQuintasan: dude18:06
shadeslayeradd docbook-xml to kdeedu18:07
shadeslayeroh oh oh 18:12
shadeslayerQuintasan: we dont have amarok in there :O18:12
* shadeslayer gets cracking18:13
shadeslayerQuintasan: maybe we should disable tests?18:16
shadeslayerwow.. those animations are awesome in kpk18:37
Quintasanwell, they are most likley to fail :P18:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: docbook doesnt get pulled?18:41
Quintasanwth is wrong with those dependencies18:41
Quintasanbrb fixing18:41
shadeslayerive fixed it18:41
ScottKCould someone take a look at Bug 660093?  I have this feeling we'll be the ones to fix it.19:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 660093 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "Akonaditray null launcher appear after upgrading to Maverick Meerkat" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66009319:17
trichardthe yawp package needs an update, it seems to be incompatible with KDE 4.5.220:23
shadeslayertrichard: i can put it in the PPA, but ill need Riddell's approval21:05
trichardshadeslayer: ok21:09
shadeslayertrichard: whats the new version? and where are the sources ? 21:09
trichardshadeslayer: I think this bug is related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-yawp/+bug/63633821:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 636338 in plasma-widget-yawp (Ubuntu) "yawp doesn't display any data" [Undecided,New]21:09
trichardnewest version is 0.3.5 and is located http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9410621:10
shadeslayertrichard: ok, ill get to it tomorrow :)21:12
trichardshadeslayer: thanks!21:13
shadeslayeri wonder where dantti is these days21:13
shadeslayeri need to poke him about a kpk bug21:13
shadeslayertrichard: no problem 21:13
debfxyawp doesn't seem to work with kde 4.5.121:17
shadeslayerdebfx: needs a Backport then i guess21:22
debfxshadeslayer: an SRU preferably21:24
shadeslayerdebfx: but its a new release, i dont think itll be SRU'able ... but ill need to look at the diff21:25
debfxshadeslayer: maybe we can cherry-pick a commit that fixes the issue21:25
shadeslayerpossibly ...21:26
shadeslayerim sleeping, ill have a look tomorrow 21:28
Riddellshadeslayer: my approval for what?21:37
Lex79Riddell: I wrote in the wiki vlc and phonon backend vlc, where it's gone?21:40
RiddellLex79: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-coding21:43
ScottKshadeslayer: If it's totally broken without the update, a new version might get through SRU.21:43
Lex79ok thanks :)21:43
trichardHm, when i double click my video in smplayer to start fullscreen i see the ubuntu wallpaper for half a second. How is this possible? I'm running KDE22:18
ScottKRiddell: I think we ought to add HAL free for 12.04 to our long term goals.  It seems upstream is working on it and it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at if there is anything they've missed or any of our own stuff.22:29
bulldog98ScottK: they want to be hal free for next release (or hoping at least)22:33
ScottKbulldog98: Yes and we want all our major transitions done for 11.10, so it would be good to get on it sooner rather than later.22:34
cragdorHi All, are any of you experiencing issues with the NViDIA driver not working in 10.1022:44
bulldog98cragdor: works for me22:46
cragdorDoh, Seems its not working for a number of people on the internet, i also get this error in dmesg: The NVIDIA GPU 0000:02:00.0 (PCI ID: 10de:0615) installed22:47
cragdor[   10.437966] NVRM: in this system is not supported by the 260.19.06 NVIDIA Linux22:47
cragdor[   10.437967] NVRM: graphics driver release22:47
cragdorYet i'm sure a new GTS250, should be22:48
valorie_there hasn't been a Kubuntu Meeting since July?23:05
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JontheEchidnawe made this in Digital Fundamentals lab today: http://imgur.com/L4noV23:31
JontheEchidnaeach board is a BCD to 7-segment display decoder. (2 people worked on each board)23:32
Lex79multiplexer? :)23:50
JontheEchidnaI guess it could be called that23:55
JontheEchidnaIt takes a binary number and outputs it as something that can turn lights off and on in the 7 segment display23:56
Lex79also it called "mux" or something like that iirc23:56
Lex79yes it is23:57
JontheEchidnabasically we were making this chip: http://www.physics.montana.edu/faculty/babbitt/Physics361/7segDisplay.pdf23:57
Lex79nice :)23:58
JontheEchidname and my lab partner did the logic for segment 'e'23:58

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