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| apachelogger | shadeslayer: nice | 07:55 |
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| apachelogger | shadeslayer: how about error handling? :P | 07:55 |
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| MiMe | What is the minimum requirements to join the development team? | 10:01 |
| persia | So, an annoying bug was discovered for all preinstalled omap4 installs: specifically there is a "software channel" for the software centre enabled to connect to a special vendor PPA that expects universe to be enabled, but universe isn't enabled. | 10:59 |
| persia | Is this bug likely to even be user-visible for Kubuntu? | 10:59 |
| Riddell | persia: well no, we don't use Software Centre | 11:01 |
| persia | Riddell, I didn't think so: just wanted to confirm. Does KPK use software channels at all? | 11:08 |
| Riddell | it uses /usr/share/app-install/categories.xml | 11:16 |
| Riddell | not sure if it uses any others like that | 11:16 |
| persia | No, that's sufficiently different that the Kubuntu images won't be affected. | 11:17 |
| Riddell | kpackagekit uses its own desktop.db file which is made from app-install-data | 11:17 |
| persia | If someone adds extra channels (like app-install-data-partner), do those show there as well? | 11:18 |
| Riddell | cor, nothing but good comments for Kubuntu on the Ubuntu 10.10 article on slashdot | 11:37 |
| Riddell | we rock | 11:37 |
| nigelb | Riddell: +1 to that :) | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | so | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | ... | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | at installation I ticked the box "install the stuff I need to play me mp3s" | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | now I fire up rekonq | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | and notification pops up to install stuff | 11:41 |
| * nigelb hopes to have kubuntu maverick on laptop tonight :) | 11:41 | |
| apachelogger | I say install and it offers Video Encoding and MP3 Encoding | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | and that my dear friends is why those big categories for missing stuff just don't work out | 11:42 |
| persia | apachelogger, kubuntu-restricted-addons only has decoders, not encoders. You may need to filter some of the autocodec searchers. | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | there is no search going on | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | the apps that require stuff call the kubuntu notification helper | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | *with* the thing they would like to have | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | and the notification helper then puts all that foo into a category and recommends installing that category | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | so rekonq supposedly wants flash -> asks notification helper -> helper looks up flash -> flash is in multimedia category -> helper asks user to install all the stuff that is in the multimedia category | 11:44 |
| nigelb | yuck | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | in my case those are 2 completely and utterly unrelated things to rekonq | 11:44 |
| Riddell | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/kubuntu-on-netbooks-10020749/ nice review, guy seems curiously impressed by compositing effects | 11:48 |
| Riddell | agateau: do we need a session at UDS for Kubuntu and DX? | 12:07 |
| agateau | Riddell: don't think so | 12:08 |
| agateau | Riddell: except if you want to discuss the c.a fiasco | 12:08 |
| Riddell | c.a fiasco? | 12:10 |
| agateau | Riddell: dbusmenu-qt copyright assignment... :/ | 12:26 |
| Riddell | oh aye | 12:27 |
| Riddell | agateau: there's problems with the copyright assignment, I don't know if there's any chance of them getting fixed though, I might ask rick if he thinks it would be worth having a session about that | 12:28 |
| agateau | Riddell: I was ranting, I don't think there is a need for a session on the subject | 12:29 |
| Riddell | we may as well try | 12:30 |
| * apachelogger is sitting in the most boring lecture like ever | 12:33 | |
| Riddell | specs registered https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | 13:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: who from ubuntu one should I subscribe to the appdevs-kubuntu-n-ubuntu-one spec? | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: better ask in #ubuntuone who is interested I suppose | 13:38 |
| Riddell | rbelem: pnig | 14:03 |
| Riddell | whatever a pnig is | 14:03 |
| rbelem | Riddell, :-D | 14:03 |
| Riddell | you're not on the confirmed list for UDS, you need to contact jcastro to confirm if you're going | 14:04 |
| rbelem | Riddell, ok! I will ping him ;-) | 14:04 |
| rbelem | thx :-) | 14:05 |
| rbelem | Riddell, done :-) | 14:08 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Wth | 14:27 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Update broke my nVidia driver | 14:27 |
| Quintasan_Droid | not update to maverick but a typical apt-get update and upgrade | 14:28 |
| rbelem | Quintasan_Droid, to fix that, just apt-get install --install nvidia-current | 14:40 |
| rbelem | i experienced this issue too after upgrading | 14:40 |
| Quintasan_Droid | rbelem: thanks | 14:45 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Maybe you also know solution to this | 14:45 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Whenever I restart my PC using the buttons on the box itself my monitor claims to have no input signal, it flashes through digital and analog input. Usually I power it off, wait for few minutes and it works but wating is getting annoying | 14:47 |
| Quintasan_Droid | I have no idea what might be the issue, I 'm pretty sure cables are undamaged | 14:48 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Maybe Trouble came here and is sitting on my cables? | 14:49 |
| Quintasan_Droid | :P | 14:49 |
| * Trouble gets off Quintasan's cables | 14:49 | |
| Trouble | I should lose weight | 14:50 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Just what did I do to experience so damn annoying things | 14:50 |
| alvin | Quintasan_Droid: It might be bug 626974 | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 626974 in Ubuntu release notes "ABI change in xorg 1.9 breaks legacy nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers in Maverick" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626974 | 14:50 |
| alvin | Quintasan_Droid: What's the model of your card? | 14:51 |
| Quintasan_Droid | alvin: well, let me first somehow get my monitor working, GeForce. GTX 250 | 14:51 |
| Quintasan_Droid | Or something along these lines | 14:51 |
| alvin | Then it's not this bug. | 14:52 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1185492 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DownloadModel/DownloadDelegate.cpp Space text a little so that it isn't painted right on the border | 14:54 |
| Quintasan_Droid | What the heck is wrong with my monitor | 14:54 |
| Quintasan_Droid | It was working normally few weeks ago? | 14:55 |
| rbelem | Quintasan_Droid, no idea, maybe the problem is with the video card | 15:01 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, try it on another pc | 15:01 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1185494 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/PackageWidget.h SVN_SILENT: Include fixes | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh yes, error handling, but theres a small issue with that patch right now, when i type / in rekonq urlbar, it doest start file browsing mode, idk if thats a issue with my system or the patch itself :D | 15:14 |
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| shadeslayer | valorie: i feel your pain ... thats why i keep all my data on /Data :P | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/L0JpbQu9 | 15:36 |
| CIA-116 | [muon] jmthomas * 1185507 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Move the header code an searchbar code into PackageWidget. This way we don't have to add widgets from subclasses, and can use KVBox again. The splitter sizes are now proper. | 15:48 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: hola, are you able to approve specs for UDS? | 15:57 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, I guess so, yeah | 15:57 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, wanna paste me some links, I'll go ahead and approve for you | 15:58 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty these ones please | 15:58 |
| rickspencer3 | just approve all of them? | 15:59 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: yes please | 16:00 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: well not approve, accept for UDS-N | 16:00 |
| rickspencer3 | done | 16:00 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: thanks | 16:00 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: is there any point in having a discussion about the contributor agreement at UDS? | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, hmmm | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | depends on the content and context, I suppos | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | e | 16:01 |
| Riddell | seeing if it can be changed to make it acceptable to people who currently have specific objections | 16:02 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, I would talk to sabdfl and amanda about it | 16:03 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, fwiw, I just asked jono to give you all the powers in LP that you will need to manage Kubuntu blueprints, scheduling, etc... | 16:03 |
| * rickspencer3 hands keys to Riddel | 16:03 | |
| Riddell | agateau: do you need a session with Qt people about getting dbusmenu into Qt? | 16:04 |
| agateau | Riddell: could be useful, but I think there will be a canonical-nokia private meeting | 16:05 |
| agateau | Riddell: err, should have said "could be useful unless a canonical-nokia private meeting is planned" | 16:06 |
| Riddell | I might schedule a general qt patch review and could include that as a topic | 16:06 |
| agateau | Riddell: good plan | 16:06 |
| Riddell | since it's our biggest patch :) | 16:06 |
| agateau | Riddell: fyi I turned appmenu support into a plugin in my Qt branch, as requested by Nokia devs, hopefully this will go in soon | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw after installing neon, you just started it with /opt/bin/startkde? | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | and it automatically set the vars and stuff? | 16:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I didn't start a whole session, just individual apps | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: still nothing | 16:17 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, even on another pc? | 16:17 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, or the nvidia? | 16:18 |
| Quintasan | I mean the driver | 16:18 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, boot with the latest kernel that is installed and then dpkg -P nvidia-current; apt-get install nvidia-current | 16:19 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, try that and paste the result to me :-) use screen and byobu | 16:20 |
| Quintasan | It wants to rebuild the module but claims there is no kernel source | 16:21 |
| Quintasan | but I have it installed | 16:21 |
| Riddell | hi mgraesslin, I registered a Kubuntu and xorg session at UDS, anything else you'd like sessions on? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | 16:27 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: anything you would like to see in Project Neon? | 16:34 |
| * txwikinger wonders about a docky for KDE | 16:37 | |
| Riddell | Quintasan: umbrello! | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | And what on earth is that? | 16:40 |
| Riddell | my pride and joy | 16:40 |
| Riddell | well before I did Kubuntu anyway :) | 16:40 |
| Riddell | do you have kdesdk? | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | Installed? Nope. Packaged in P-N? Yes | 16:41 |
| Riddell | groovy | 16:44 |
| Quintasan | Is this awesome? | 16:45 |
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| Riddell | totally awesome | 16:47 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: does a full neon session work? | 16:47 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I do not know, I think I will work on it after we get all modules packaged | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | I need to change all the Descriptions in control files to make it look somehow uniform | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | not some random CAPS LOCK INGENIOUS BLABBERING | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | :P | 16:49 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: it seems to me like neon is ready for some publicity | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | Well, I hope to package the rest of modules today | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | and I think we can get a Session entry in no time | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | Where are my minions? | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ^^ | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 16:51 |
| shadeslayer | publicity? | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | nope | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | Session entry for X | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | huh | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | where the hell are bindings? | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: you were supposed to be working on them | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | and entry for X | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | I thought I requested a build yesterday | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | loads of machines are down i think | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | only 3-4 PPA builders | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | ( for each arch ) | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | Apparently there is no recipe | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | I wonder why. | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Well, I'm giving the entry for X to you so you can have the honour of putting everything in motion :P | 16:54 |
| Quintasan | pbuilding kdebindings | 16:54 |
| Quintasan | wish me luck | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:55 |
| Quintasan | uhh | 16:55 |
| Quintasan | and we need to work on that python crap | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | also we need to keep a seprate cache for neon | 16:56 |
| Quintasan | any idead how to set this up? | 16:56 |
| Quintasan | still no edu lucid builds | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger said to look at the earlier scripts | 16:56 |
| Quintasan | oh god | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | i found the var, but how do we proceed? patch svn packages? | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | patching svn? | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | same goes for X entry | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | we could put X entry in meta package | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | do we have any other way to go around it? | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | but then it wont be a meta package :P | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | for X entry - I agree | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: no idea about other way | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | Who cares what is inside when it works? | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | :P | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | missing deps on edut | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | and then we have the issue of bashrc and such | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | bah | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | the proper env vars | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | what is the issue with bashrc? | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | I get it | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | I think we need to ask apachelogger | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | I have no idea how to deal with that | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | me neither | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | maybe we should ship bashrc_neon in our meta package | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | and patch konsole to use that as default | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | makes sense | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | hmm edu build for lucid requested | 17:02 |
| Quintasan | bindings are building | 17:02 |
| * shadeslayer still has weird issue with rekonq | 17:04 | |
| Quintasan | hmm | 17:19 |
| Quintasan | !info python-sip-dev | 17:20 |
| ubottu | python-sip-dev (source: sip4-qt3): Python/C++ bindings generator development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.5-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 331 kB, installed size 1300 kB | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | We need 4.11 or later | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | damn | 17:20 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: please accept https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-qt-patch-review | 17:25 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, done | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: ask apachelogger what? | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | ask apachelogger about asking apachelogger logger | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | :P | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: 17:58 < shadeslayer> and then we have the issue of bashrc and such | 17:58 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ^^ | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | oh yes | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | what issue? | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ok so we start up neon, launch bash, wont konsole pick up settings from ~/.bashrc | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | the issue being, the environment vars are picked from stable install | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | if you export the environment as part of the KDE startup it will pick up those | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | so launching a app ( say rekonq ) will make it start from /usr/local/bin/rekonq, instead of /opt/usr/local/bin/rekonq | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | ah so we have to patch startkde | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | and how do we ship our neon entry for KDM? | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | Nattys archives are not open yet? | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: no | 18:01 |
| * Quintasan is too lazy to package new SIP | 18:01 | |
| Quintasan | I wonder what version debian has | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | weird rekonq | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: dude | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | add docbook-xml to kdeedu | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh oh | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: we dont have amarok in there :O | 18:12 |
| * shadeslayer gets cracking | 18:13 | |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: maybe we should disable tests? | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | wow.. those animations are awesome in kpk | 18:37 |
| Quintasan | well, they are most likley to fail :P | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: docbook doesnt get pulled? | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | wth is wrong with those dependencies | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | no | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | brb fixing | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | ive fixed it | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | oh | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | thanks | 18:41 |
| ScottK | Could someone take a look at Bug 660093? I have this feeling we'll be the ones to fix it. | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 660093 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "Akonaditray null launcher appear after upgrading to Maverick Meerkat" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660093 | 19:17 |
| trichard | the yawp package needs an update, it seems to be incompatible with KDE 4.5.2 | 20:23 |
| shadeslayer | trichard: i can put it in the PPA, but ill need Riddell's approval | 21:05 |
| trichard | shadeslayer: ok | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | trichard: whats the new version? and where are the sources ? | 21:09 |
| trichard | shadeslayer: I think this bug is related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-yawp/+bug/636338 | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 636338 in plasma-widget-yawp (Ubuntu) "yawp doesn't display any data" [Undecided,New] | 21:09 |
| trichard | newest version is 0.3.5 and is located http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=94106 | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | trichard: ok, ill get to it tomorrow :) | 21:12 |
| trichard | shadeslayer: thanks! | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder where dantti is these days | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | i need to poke him about a kpk bug | 21:13 |
| shadeslayer | trichard: no problem | 21:13 |
| debfx | yawp doesn't seem to work with kde 4.5.1 | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: needs a Backport then i guess | 21:22 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: an SRU preferably | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: but its a new release, i dont think itll be SRU'able ... but ill need to look at the diff | 21:25 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: maybe we can cherry-pick a commit that fixes the issue | 21:25 |
| shadeslayer | possibly ... | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | im sleeping, ill have a look tomorrow | 21:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: my approval for what? | 21:37 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: I wrote in the wiki vlc and phonon backend vlc, where it's gone? | 21:40 |
| Riddell | twiddle | 21:43 |
| Riddell | Lex79: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-coding | 21:43 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: If it's totally broken without the update, a new version might get through SRU. | 21:43 |
| Lex79 | ok thanks :) | 21:43 |
| trichard | Hm, when i double click my video in smplayer to start fullscreen i see the ubuntu wallpaper for half a second. How is this possible? I'm running KDE | 22:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think we ought to add HAL free for 12.04 to our long term goals. It seems upstream is working on it and it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at if there is anything they've missed or any of our own stuff. | 22:29 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: they want to be hal free for next release (or hoping at least) | 22:33 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: Yes and we want all our major transitions done for 11.10, so it would be good to get on it sooner rather than later. | 22:34 |
| cragdor | Hi All, are any of you experiencing issues with the NViDIA driver not working in 10.10 | 22:44 |
| bulldog98 | cragdor: works for me | 22:46 |
| cragdor | Doh, Seems its not working for a number of people on the internet, i also get this error in dmesg: The NVIDIA GPU 0000:02:00.0 (PCI ID: 10de:0615) installed | 22:47 |
| cragdor | [ 10.437966] NVRM: in this system is not supported by the 260.19.06 NVIDIA Linux | 22:47 |
| cragdor | [ 10.437967] NVRM: graphics driver release | 22:47 |
| cragdor | Yet i'm sure a new GTS250, should be | 22:48 |
| valorie_ | there hasn't been a Kubuntu Meeting since July? | 23:05 |
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| JontheEchidna | we made this in Digital Fundamentals lab today: http://imgur.com/L4noV | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | each board is a BCD to 7-segment display decoder. (2 people worked on each board) | 23:32 |
| Lex79 | multiplexer? :) | 23:50 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess it could be called that | 23:55 |
| JontheEchidna | It takes a binary number and outputs it as something that can turn lights off and on in the 7 segment display | 23:56 |
| Lex79 | also it called "mux" or something like that iirc | 23:56 |
| Lex79 | yes it is | 23:57 |
| JontheEchidna | basically we were making this chip: http://www.physics.montana.edu/faculty/babbitt/Physics361/7segDisplay.pdf | 23:57 |
| Lex79 | nice :) | 23:58 |
| JontheEchidna | me and my lab partner did the logic for segment 'e' | 23:58 |
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