=== SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [07:55] shadeslayer: nice [07:55] shadeslayer: how about error handling? :P === KRF_ is now known as KRF [10:01] What is the minimum requirements to join the development team? [10:59] So, an annoying bug was discovered for all preinstalled omap4 installs: specifically there is a "software channel" for the software centre enabled to connect to a special vendor PPA that expects universe to be enabled, but universe isn't enabled. [10:59] Is this bug likely to even be user-visible for Kubuntu? [11:01] persia: well no, we don't use Software Centre [11:08] Riddell, I didn't think so: just wanted to confirm. Does KPK use software channels at all? [11:16] it uses /usr/share/app-install/categories.xml [11:16] not sure if it uses any others like that [11:17] No, that's sufficiently different that the Kubuntu images won't be affected. [11:17] kpackagekit uses its own desktop.db file which is made from app-install-data [11:18] If someone adds extra channels (like app-install-data-partner), do those show there as well? [11:37] cor, nothing but good comments for Kubuntu on the Ubuntu 10.10 article on slashdot [11:37] we rock [11:40] Riddell: +1 to that :) [11:40] so [11:40] ... [11:41] at installation I ticked the box "install the stuff I need to play me mp3s" [11:41] now I fire up rekonq [11:41] and notification pops up to install stuff [11:41] * nigelb hopes to have kubuntu maverick on laptop tonight :) [11:41] I say install and it offers Video Encoding and MP3 Encoding [11:42] and that my dear friends is why those big categories for missing stuff just don't work out [11:42] apachelogger, kubuntu-restricted-addons only has decoders, not encoders. You may need to filter some of the autocodec searchers. [11:42] there is no search going on [11:43] the apps that require stuff call the kubuntu notification helper [11:43] *with* the thing they would like to have [11:43] and the notification helper then puts all that foo into a category and recommends installing that category [11:44] so rekonq supposedly wants flash -> asks notification helper -> helper looks up flash -> flash is in multimedia category -> helper asks user to install all the stuff that is in the multimedia category [11:44] yuck [11:44] in my case those are 2 completely and utterly unrelated things to rekonq [11:48] http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jamies-mostly-linux-stuff-10006480/kubuntu-on-netbooks-10020749/ nice review, guy seems curiously impressed by compositing effects [12:07] agateau: do we need a session at UDS for Kubuntu and DX? [12:08] Riddell: don't think so [12:08] Riddell: except if you want to discuss the c.a fiasco [12:10] c.a fiasco? [12:26] Riddell: dbusmenu-qt copyright assignment... :/ [12:27] oh aye [12:28] agateau: there's problems with the copyright assignment, I don't know if there's any chance of them getting fixed though, I might ask rick if he thinks it would be worth having a session about that [12:29] Riddell: I was ranting, I don't think there is a need for a session on the subject [12:30] we may as well try [12:33] * apachelogger is sitting in the most boring lecture like ever [13:25] specs registered https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty [13:38] apachelogger: who from ubuntu one should I subscribe to the appdevs-kubuntu-n-ubuntu-one spec? [13:38] Riddell: better ask in #ubuntuone who is interested I suppose [14:03] rbelem: pnig [14:03] whatever a pnig is [14:03] Riddell, :-D [14:04] you're not on the confirmed list for UDS, you need to contact jcastro to confirm if you're going [14:04] Riddell, ok! I will ping him ;-) [14:05] thx :-) [14:08] Riddell, done :-) [14:27] Wth [14:27] Update broke my nVidia driver [14:28] not update to maverick but a typical apt-get update and upgrade [14:40] Quintasan_Droid, to fix that, just apt-get install --install nvidia-current [14:40] i experienced this issue too after upgrading [14:45] rbelem: thanks [14:45] Maybe you also know solution to this [14:47] Whenever I restart my PC using the buttons on the box itself my monitor claims to have no input signal, it flashes through digital and analog input. Usually I power it off, wait for few minutes and it works but wating is getting annoying [14:48] I have no idea what might be the issue, I 'm pretty sure cables are undamaged [14:49] Maybe Trouble came here and is sitting on my cables? [14:49] :P [14:49] * Trouble gets off Quintasan's cables [14:50] I should lose weight [14:50] Just what did I do to experience so damn annoying things [14:50] Quintasan_Droid: It might be bug 626974 [14:50] Launchpad bug 626974 in Ubuntu release notes "ABI change in xorg 1.9 breaks legacy nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers in Maverick" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626974 [14:51] Quintasan_Droid: What's the model of your card? [14:51] alvin: well, let me first somehow get my monitor working, GeForce. GTX 250 [14:51] Or something along these lines [14:52] Then it's not this bug. [14:54] [muon] jmthomas * 1185492 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/DownloadModel/DownloadDelegate.cpp Space text a little so that it isn't painted right on the border [14:54] What the heck is wrong with my monitor [14:55] It was working normally few weeks ago? [15:01] Quintasan_Droid, no idea, maybe the problem is with the video card [15:01] Quintasan, try it on another pc [15:02] [muon] jmthomas * 1185494 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/PackageModel/PackageWidget.h SVN_SILENT: Include fixes [15:14] apachelogger: oh yes, error handling, but theres a small issue with that patch right now, when i type / in rekonq urlbar, it doest start file browsing mode, idk if thats a issue with my system or the patch itself :D === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [15:31] valorie: i feel your pain ... thats why i keep all my data on /Data :P [15:36] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/L0JpbQu9 [15:48] [muon] jmthomas * 1185507 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Move the header code an searchbar code into PackageWidget. This way we don't have to add widgets from subclasses, and can use KVBox again. The splitter sizes are now proper. [15:57] rickspencer3: hola, are you able to approve specs for UDS? [15:57] Riddell, I guess so, yeah [15:58] Riddell, wanna paste me some links, I'll go ahead and approve for you [15:58] rickspencer3: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty these ones please [15:59] just approve all of them? [16:00] rickspencer3: yes please [16:00] rickspencer3: well not approve, accept for UDS-N [16:00] done [16:00] rickspencer3: thanks [16:01] rickspencer3: is there any point in having a discussion about the contributor agreement at UDS? [16:01] Riddell, hmmm [16:01] depends on the content and context, I suppos [16:01] e [16:02] seeing if it can be changed to make it acceptable to people who currently have specific objections [16:03] Riddell, I would talk to sabdfl and amanda about it [16:03] Riddell, fwiw, I just asked jono to give you all the powers in LP that you will need to manage Kubuntu blueprints, scheduling, etc... [16:03] * rickspencer3 hands keys to Riddel [16:04] agateau: do you need a session with Qt people about getting dbusmenu into Qt? [16:05] Riddell: could be useful, but I think there will be a canonical-nokia private meeting [16:06] Riddell: err, should have said "could be useful unless a canonical-nokia private meeting is planned" [16:06] I might schedule a general qt patch review and could include that as a topic [16:06] Riddell: good plan [16:06] since it's our biggest patch :) [16:08] Riddell: fyi I turned appmenu support into a plugin in my Qt branch, as requested by Nokia devs, hopefully this will go in soon [16:09] Riddell: btw after installing neon, you just started it with /opt/bin/startkde? [16:09] and it automatically set the vars and stuff? [16:10] shadeslayer: I didn't start a whole session, just individual apps [16:10] ah ok [16:17] rbelem: still nothing [16:17] Quintasan, even on another pc? [16:18] Quintasan, or the nvidia? [16:18] I mean the driver [16:19] Quintasan, boot with the latest kernel that is installed and then dpkg -P nvidia-current; apt-get install nvidia-current [16:20] Quintasan, try that and paste the result to me :-) use screen and byobu [16:21] It wants to rebuild the module but claims there is no kernel source [16:21] but I have it installed [16:27] hi mgraesslin, I registered a Kubuntu and xorg session at UDS, anything else you'd like sessions on? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty [16:34] Riddell: anything you would like to see in Project Neon? [16:37] * txwikinger wonders about a docky for KDE [16:40] Quintasan: umbrello! [16:40] And what on earth is that? [16:40] my pride and joy [16:40] well before I did Kubuntu anyway :) [16:40] do you have kdesdk? [16:41] Installed? Nope. Packaged in P-N? Yes [16:44] groovy [16:45] Is this awesome? === ferai is now known as jefferai [16:47] totally awesome [16:47] Quintasan: does a full neon session work? [16:48] Riddell: I do not know, I think I will work on it after we get all modules packaged [16:49] I need to change all the Descriptions in control files to make it look somehow uniform [16:49] not some random CAPS LOCK INGENIOUS BLABBERING [16:49] :P [16:50] Quintasan: it seems to me like neon is ready for some publicity [16:50] Well, I hope to package the rest of modules today [16:50] and I think we can get a Session entry in no time [16:50] Where are my minions? [16:50] shadeslayer: ^^ [16:51] hmm? [16:51] publicity? [16:52] nope [16:52] Session entry for X [16:52] huh [16:52] oh [16:52] ah [16:52] where the hell are bindings? [16:52] Quintasan: you were supposed to be working on them [16:52] and entry for X [16:52] I thought I requested a build yesterday [16:52] loads of machines are down i think [16:53] only 3-4 PPA builders [16:53] ( for each arch ) [16:53] Apparently there is no recipe [16:53] I wonder why. [16:54] shadeslayer: Well, I'm giving the entry for X to you so you can have the honour of putting everything in motion :P [16:54] pbuilding kdebindings [16:54] wish me luck [16:55] ok [16:55] uhh [16:55] and we need to work on that python crap [16:56] also we need to keep a seprate cache for neon [16:56] any idead how to set this up? [16:56] still no edu lucid builds [16:56] apachelogger said to look at the earlier scripts [16:57] oh god [16:57] i found the var, but how do we proceed? patch svn packages? [16:57] patching svn? [16:57] hmm [16:57] same goes for X entry [16:57] we could put X entry in meta package [16:57] do we have any other way to go around it? [16:57] but then it wont be a meta package :P [16:57] for X entry - I agree [16:57] Quintasan: no idea about other way [16:58] Who cares what is inside when it works? [16:58] :P [16:58] hehe :P [16:58] missing deps on edut [16:58] and then we have the issue of bashrc and such [16:58] bah [16:58] the proper env vars [17:00] what is the issue with bashrc? [17:00] hmm [17:00] I get it [17:01] I think we need to ask apachelogger [17:01] I have no idea how to deal with that [17:01] me neither [17:01] maybe we should ship bashrc_neon in our meta package [17:01] and patch konsole to use that as default [17:02] makes sense [17:02] hmm edu build for lucid requested [17:02] bindings are building [17:04] * shadeslayer still has weird issue with rekonq [17:19] hmm [17:20] !info python-sip-dev [17:20] python-sip-dev (source: sip4-qt3): Python/C++ bindings generator development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.5-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 331 kB, installed size 1300 kB [17:20] hmm [17:20] We need 4.11 or later [17:20] damn [17:25] rickspencer3: please accept https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-qt-patch-review [17:26] Riddell, done [17:53] Quintasan: ask apachelogger what? [17:57] ask apachelogger about asking apachelogger logger [17:57] :P [17:58] apachelogger: 17:58 < shadeslayer> and then we have the issue of bashrc and such [17:58] shadeslayer: ^^ [17:58] hmm? [17:58] oh yes [17:58] what issue? [17:59] apachelogger: ok so we start up neon, launch bash, wont konsole pick up settings from ~/.bashrc [17:59] the issue being, the environment vars are picked from stable install [17:59] well [18:00] if you export the environment as part of the KDE startup it will pick up those [18:00] so launching a app ( say rekonq ) will make it start from /usr/local/bin/rekonq, instead of /opt/usr/local/bin/rekonq [18:00] ah so we have to patch startkde [18:01] and how do we ship our neon entry for KDM? [18:01] Nattys archives are not open yet? [18:01] Quintasan: no [18:01] * Quintasan is too lazy to package new SIP [18:01] I wonder what version debian has [18:02] weird rekonq [18:06] Quintasan: dude [18:07] add docbook-xml to kdeedu [18:12] oh oh oh [18:12] Quintasan: we dont have amarok in there :O [18:13] * shadeslayer gets cracking [18:16] Quintasan: maybe we should disable tests? [18:37] wow.. those animations are awesome in kpk [18:41] well, they are most likley to fail :P [18:41] shadeslayer: docbook doesnt get pulled? [18:41] wth is wrong with those dependencies [18:41] no [18:41] brb fixing [18:41] ive fixed it [18:41] oh [18:41] thanks [19:17] Could someone take a look at Bug 660093? I have this feeling we'll be the ones to fix it. [19:17] Launchpad bug 660093 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "Akonaditray null launcher appear after upgrading to Maverick Meerkat" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660093 [20:23] the yawp package needs an update, it seems to be incompatible with KDE 4.5.2 [21:05] trichard: i can put it in the PPA, but ill need Riddell's approval [21:09] shadeslayer: ok [21:09] trichard: whats the new version? and where are the sources ? [21:09] shadeslayer: I think this bug is related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-yawp/+bug/636338 [21:09] Launchpad bug 636338 in plasma-widget-yawp (Ubuntu) "yawp doesn't display any data" [Undecided,New] [21:10] newest version is 0.3.5 and is located http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=94106 [21:12] trichard: ok, ill get to it tomorrow :) [21:13] shadeslayer: thanks! [21:13] i wonder where dantti is these days [21:13] i need to poke him about a kpk bug [21:13] trichard: no problem [21:17] yawp doesn't seem to work with kde 4.5.1 [21:22] debfx: needs a Backport then i guess [21:24] shadeslayer: an SRU preferably [21:25] debfx: but its a new release, i dont think itll be SRU'able ... but ill need to look at the diff [21:25] shadeslayer: maybe we can cherry-pick a commit that fixes the issue [21:26] possibly ... [21:28] im sleeping, ill have a look tomorrow [21:37] shadeslayer: my approval for what? [21:40] Riddell: I wrote in the wiki vlc and phonon backend vlc, where it's gone? [21:43] twiddle [21:43] Lex79: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-coding [21:43] shadeslayer: If it's totally broken without the update, a new version might get through SRU. [21:43] ok thanks :) [22:18] Hm, when i double click my video in smplayer to start fullscreen i see the ubuntu wallpaper for half a second. How is this possible? I'm running KDE [22:29] Riddell: I think we ought to add HAL free for 12.04 to our long term goals. It seems upstream is working on it and it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at if there is anything they've missed or any of our own stuff. [22:33] ScottK: they want to be hal free for next release (or hoping at least) [22:34] bulldog98: Yes and we want all our major transitions done for 11.10, so it would be good to get on it sooner rather than later. [22:44] Hi All, are any of you experiencing issues with the NViDIA driver not working in 10.10 [22:46] cragdor: works for me [22:47] Doh, Seems its not working for a number of people on the internet, i also get this error in dmesg: The NVIDIA GPU 0000:02:00.0 (PCI ID: 10de:0615) installed [22:47] [ 10.437966] NVRM: in this system is not supported by the 260.19.06 NVIDIA Linux [22:47] [ 10.437967] NVRM: graphics driver release [22:48] Yet i'm sure a new GTS250, should be [23:05] there hasn't been a Kubuntu Meeting since July? === valorie_ is now known as valoriez [23:31] we made this in Digital Fundamentals lab today: http://imgur.com/L4noV [23:32] each board is a BCD to 7-segment display decoder. (2 people worked on each board) [23:50] multiplexer? :) [23:55] I guess it could be called that [23:56] It takes a binary number and outputs it as something that can turn lights off and on in the 7 segment display [23:56] also it called "mux" or something like that iirc [23:57] yes it is [23:57] basically we were making this chip: http://www.physics.montana.edu/faculty/babbitt/Physics361/7segDisplay.pdf [23:58] nice :) [23:58] me and my lab partner did the logic for segment 'e'