| Arthur_D | I have successfully used DSL liveCD | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Arthur_D | but unfortunately DSL project is dead | 00:00 |
| phillw | DSL and puppy are the only ones I can think of for that RAM | 00:00 |
| Arthur_D | okay, thanks anyway :) | 00:00 |
| phillw | if you search for "puppy linux" I think that project is still going | 00:01 |
| Arthur_D | yeah, looking through their pages. Trying to find minimum sys requirements | 00:03 |
| Arthur_D | problem is, I need to use a boot floppy in order to access the CDrom | 00:04 |
| Arthur_D | DSL had that, but their partition manager wouldn't let me resize the Windows 95 partition | 00:04 |
| Arthur_D | I realize I might have to give dual-booting up though. It's hard to find projects where I can use floppies nowadays | 00:08 |
| * phillw sorry was away, but I 'think' that http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ covers floppy disks. | 00:28 | |
| Arthur_D | thanks, will look at that (their site is really unprofessional, not a good sign) | 00:30 |
| phillw | Arthur_D: that site is an excellent resource, their instructions can be trusted. | 00:31 |
| Arthur_D | okay, I just hate the ads everywhere, thanks for the affirmation | 00:32 |
| phillw | Arthur_D: have a look at the resulst at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/search/floppy That may help you out. | 00:33 |
| Arthur_D | thanks a lot phillw for your kind help :) | 00:34 |
| phillw | all I can say is everyone I've asked to use that site has respsonded that it worked. Please let me know how you get on with a floppy install. | 00:34 |
| Arthur_D | problem is, all the instructions seems to be aimed at using floppy to boot from USB. I need to use floppy to boot from CD | 00:37 |
| szczur | Arthur_D, http://cutecomputer.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/boot-cdrom-through-grub/ < you can try this | 00:47 |
| szczur | it seems that this is the case :) | 00:47 |
| szczur | ahh, not exactly | 00:48 |
| szczur | nevermind | 00:48 |
| szczur | forget about it :) | 00:48 |
| Arthur_D | okay, thanks for trying anyway :) | 00:48 |
| Arthur_D | I got a tip from a guy over at #puppylinux that seems to be worth trying | 00:48 |
| Arthur_D | will need to try it later though, as I need to sleep soon ;) | 00:50 |
| szczur | you can try this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy | 00:51 |
| szczur | and then add cdrom entry from previous site i linked in :) | 00:52 |
| Arthur_D | hm, unfortunately my main computer doesn't have a floppy drive | 00:53 |
| Arthur_D | maybe I can get hold of one though | 00:53 |
| Arthur_D | good night folks, and thanks for all the help :) | 01:05 |
| dan__ | I have installed fresh 10.10 and when update manager tries to update packages it fails. First time on python-something, this time on "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.35-22-generic /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic" | 01:11 |
| dan__ | nvidia-common? there no nvidia components in this laptop.... intel onboard video | 01:12 |
| dan__ | is it trying to install the wrong kernel package? | 01:13 |
| dan__ | and the python-something failed last time | 01:13 |
| === dan__ is now known as Mossyfunk | ||
| phillw | !topic | 02:00 |
| ubot5 | Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 02:00 |
| === phillw changed the topic of #lubuntu to: 10.10 for Lubuntu has been released, please use the torrent at http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso.torrent. Documentation can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | ||
| === raskah is now known as Mossyfunk1 | ||
| === dan__ is now known as Mossyfunk | ||
| zebastianortis | let me put it this way, i recently upgrouded to 10.10 from 10.04 and now when i plug in the logitech 8 jack into the headphone thingy there's no sound, the laptop keeps playing it from its own internal mic, how do i fix this | 03:42 |
| zebastianortis | how do i make nautilus my default file manager on lubuntu? | 05:10 |
| kieths | hello? | 07:04 |
| kieths | Anybody familiar with Lubuntu run on a Pendrive with persistence enabled? I've lost sudo, and need to enter a nn-existant 'Recovery Mode' to repair it... | 07:06 |
| kieths | #ubuntu | 07:09 |
| Guest33604 | anyone | 08:08 |
| === Freejack is now known as Freejack` | ||
| sulumar | Good Morning | 08:48 |
| bioterror | hi | 08:48 |
| Mossyfunk | hello sulumar | 08:55 |
| Mossyfunk | hello bioterror | 08:55 |
| bioterror | morning | 08:55 |
| Mossyfunk | Does anyone know how to make an inserted medium show up as an icon on the desktop? | 08:58 |
| bioterror | does it show in pcmanfm? | 08:59 |
| bioterror | in file manager | 08:59 |
| Mossyfunk | yeah | 08:59 |
| Mossyfunk | just trying to make things as easy as possible for the laptop owner | 09:00 |
| bioterror | you're doing some pre-installations?-) | 09:01 |
| Mossyfunk | just one | 09:01 |
| bioterror | I hope it's a hot chick with nice body ;) | 09:01 |
| Mossyfunk | hehe nah just a good mate | 09:01 |
| Mossyfunk | just setting rythmbox for his ipod, and XP in a VM in case he needs it. just want the plug and play to show on desktop and i'm happy | 09:04 |
| Mossyfunk | come back phill =( | 09:05 |
| bioterror | :D | 09:06 |
| bioterror | why I dont have a usb stick in my shoulder bag | 09:07 |
| bioterror | I could boot something usefull instead of this windows xp :-) | 09:07 |
| Mossyfunk | hehe | 09:08 |
| Mossyfunk | you need XP? | 09:08 |
| bioterror | customers laptop | 09:09 |
| bioterror | I can access AD and stuff like that | 09:09 |
| Mossyfunk | ahhh | 09:09 |
| Mossyfunk | you work in pc repair? | 09:09 |
| Mossyfunk | whats AD? | 09:10 |
| bioterror | active directory | 09:10 |
| bioterror | Mossyfunk, I used to repair sun microsystems x86 based servers, but after oracle purchased Sun, I havent had any jobs regarding that ;) | 09:17 |
| Mossyfunk | oh wow | 09:17 |
| bioterror | even tho, I have done some Dell certificates and I'm qualified to service dell's, but havent serviced any dell servers | 09:18 |
| bioterror | now days I'm more like a local it support guy ;) | 09:18 |
| bioterror | but I enjoyd that Sun Microsystems service | 09:18 |
| bioterror | it was fun and challenging as long as it lasted, and the guys at finlands office were awesome | 09:19 |
| Mossyfunk | sounds it | 09:19 |
| Mossyfunk | i should really get some certs under my belt | 09:22 |
| Mossyfunk | i'm good with computers | 09:22 |
| Mossyfunk | started a course in IT years ago but had to leave before too much brain leaked out my ears | 09:25 |
| Mossyfunk | <<<<knows a little more than the level he started at lol | 09:25 |
| bioterror | :) | 09:26 |
| Mossyfunk | but right now i owe the tech college like $1400 lol | 09:26 |
| Mossyfunk | which i'm not paying | 09:26 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 09:26 |
| Mossyfunk | bloody job network was supposed to pay for the course, i did everything i was supposed to do and they didn't pay | 09:27 |
| bioterror | in my country education is free | 09:27 |
| bioterror | :-) | 09:27 |
| Mossyfunk | even short courses? | 09:27 |
| bioterror | it depends, but yeah | 09:28 |
| Mossyfunk | where are you from? | 09:28 |
| bioterror | finland | 09:28 |
| Mossyfunk | ahh cool | 09:28 |
| Mossyfunk | we get university on a loan scheme... you start paying it off in tax when you earn a certain amount | 09:29 |
| Mossyfunk | if you never earn enough, you never pay | 09:29 |
| bioterror | :D | 09:29 |
| Mossyfunk | how do i make shortcuts to programs on the desktop? | 09:32 |
| bioterror | ahhh | 09:32 |
| bioterror | it's a drag n drop thing | 09:33 |
| bioterror | you can do in terminal "find / |grep .desktop | 09:33 |
| bioterror | and you'll find the files you can drop to desktop | 09:33 |
| bioterror | hard to remember where those files are located | 09:34 |
| bioterror | or you can just cp those to ~/Desktop | 09:34 |
| Mossyfunk | so cp /usr/share/whatever .desktop ~/Desktop? | 09:39 |
| Mossyfunk | I thought lubuntu was supposed to be user friendly | 09:39 |
| sulumar | it is | 09:39 |
| sulumar | look it even allows you to be used if you compleetly crash your graphical interface | 09:40 |
| Mossyfunk | lol sulumar | 09:41 |
| Mossyfunk | ok idiot friendly then | 09:42 |
| sulumar | your lauthing but try that with Windows | 09:42 |
| Mossyfunk | indeed | 09:42 |
| Mossyfunk | i am not THAT new to linux | 09:42 |
| bioterror | nothing beats console with framebuffer ;) | 09:42 |
| Mossyfunk | but i'm setting this up for a low knowledge average windows user | 09:43 |
| sulumar | never got that working bioterror | 09:43 |
| sulumar | than use a dock, its easyer | 09:43 |
| Mossyfunk | thats true | 09:45 |
| Mossyfunk | how do I find out what version of GCC? | 09:45 |
| Mossyfunk | VMWare player is whining about not finding GCC 4.4.5 | 09:46 |
| sulumar | trying to install vmware tools | 09:46 |
| sulumar | ?? | 09:46 |
| Mossyfunk | no just trying to run it in the frst place | 09:47 |
| bioterror | dpkg -l gcc | 09:47 |
| Mossyfunk | No packages found matching gcc. | 09:47 |
| Mossyfunk | weird | 09:48 |
| sulumar | not really | 09:48 |
| bioterror | apt-cache show gcc | 09:48 |
| bioterror | you dont need developement software by default ;) | 09:48 |
| sulumar | gcc being te C compiler its not needed | 09:48 |
| bioterror | debian lenny has gcc 4.3.2 | 09:49 |
| Mossyfunk | well it was working fine on 10.04 | 09:49 |
| Mossyfunk | so lubuntu 10.04 must have had it | 09:49 |
| === Freejack is now known as Freejack` | ||
| sulumar | dont know, never used 10.04 in lubuntu | 09:53 |
| Mossyfunk | well the application says it wants gcc 4.4.5 and i can install 4.4 or 4.5 | 09:57 |
| bioterror | :) | 09:57 |
| Mossyfunk | which one should I go for? | 09:58 |
| Mossyfunk | 4.4 or 4.5? | 09:58 |
| bioterror | I would go for the 4.5 | 09:59 |
| Mossyfunk | ok =)\ | 10:00 |
| Mossyfunk | If i install a package, and it installs dependencies.... how do I getb synaptic to remove those dependencies along with the package? I tried marking the package for complete removal but only that one was selected | 10:04 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 10:04 |
| bioterror | if those packages arent needed anymore, sudo apt-get autoremove | 10:04 |
| bioterror | should get rid of them | 10:04 |
| Mossyfunk | well that would do the trick..... but assume i'm the owner of this laptop and i do things in the gui | 10:05 |
| bioterror | well | 10:06 |
| bioterror | !lxterminal | 10:06 |
| ubot5 | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 10:06 |
| bioterror | VERY POWERFUL! | 10:06 |
| Mossyfunk | from the wiki Lubuntu is targeted at "normal" PC users running on low-spec hardware. Such users may not know how to use command line tools, and in most cases they just don't have enough resources for all the bells and whistles of the "full-featured" mainstream distributions." | 10:06 |
| Mossyfunk | yes "I" know how to use the CLI | 10:07 |
| bioterror | somehow I dont see lubuntu as a noobie distro :-) | 10:07 |
| Mossyfunk | then the wiki is BS | 10:07 |
| bioterror | well, the tools are still new, you know | 10:08 |
| Mossyfunk | beause EVERY piece of literature on this distro and there aint much says lightweight and user friendly | 10:08 |
| Mossyfunk | true | 10:08 |
| Mossyfunk | gah maybe XFCE would be better | 10:08 |
| Mossyfunk | but I do like LXDE | 10:09 |
| bioterror | :-) | 10:09 |
| Mossyfunk | very clean and fast | 10:09 |
| bioterror | lubuntu looks so sleek | 10:09 |
| Mossyfunk | but thats the damn issue..., its not for me lol | 10:09 |
| Mossyfunk | ok well fuck it i'll pun on gnome and be done with it | 10:11 |
| Mossyfunk | but thats really lame | 10:11 |
| Mossyfunk | laters | 10:11 |
| bioterror | should I use less terminal and more GUI tools?-) | 10:14 |
| daira | Hello all, i have a problem with x settings. the resolution shown is 1600x1200 although the max and native res of my monitor is 1200x800. xrandr shows all resolutions up to 1600x1200 where only 1200x800 has 60hz beside, others have 0hz. i also cant find xorg.conf in /etc/X11 | 10:14 |
| bioterror | by default there's no xorg.conf | 10:15 |
| daira | also the bottom and the right of my screen is missing, because of bigger resolution | 10:15 |
| bioterror | you have to make one by running Xorg -configure | 10:15 |
| bioterror | and then copy that file to /etc/X11/ | 10:15 |
| daira | i tried that, but with sudo X -configure /home/daira/xorg.conf.new and i got blank screen | 10:17 |
| daira | after i did sudo Xorg -configure | 10:17 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 10:17 |
| daira | it seems that unichrome driver doesnt work | 10:17 |
| daira | can i change to vesa somehow_ | 10:17 |
| daira | just to check | 10:18 |
| bioterror | it's Xorg -config /path/to/your/config | 10:19 |
| bioterror | -configure makes you a config -file | 10:19 |
| daira | oh | 10:19 |
| daira | yes I used -config | 10:20 |
| daira | i just checked in tty | 10:20 |
| bioterror | okay | 10:20 |
| daira | seems like my monitor cant be automatically set up | 10:21 |
| daira | how can i do it manually | 10:21 |
| bioterror | with xorg.conf :-) | 10:23 |
| daira | http://paste.ubuntu.com/512247/ | 10:24 |
| daira | this is display from lshw | 10:24 |
| daira | what is text program in lubuntu? | 10:25 |
| daira | to open xorg.conf.new from terminal | 10:26 |
| sulumar | try nano$ | 10:26 |
| sulumar | nano | 10:26 |
| daira | what is one with gui | 10:26 |
| daira | so that i can copy my new xorg | 10:26 |
| daira | as i cant see my bottom toolbar | 10:27 |
| daira | so i dont know what i have :) | 10:27 |
| daira | leafpad | 10:27 |
| bioterror | alt+f2 | 10:28 |
| bioterror | then you can trype: gksudo leafpad | 10:28 |
| bioterror | and you have opened leafpad with root permissions | 10:28 |
| daira | i found allready thx :) | 10:28 |
| daira | here is my newly created xorg, can you please check on that as i have low understanding of X? | 10:29 |
| daira | http://paste.ubuntu.com/512249/ | 10:29 |
| daira | here is my x log | 10:31 |
| daira | http://paste.ubuntu.com/512250/ | 10:31 |
| daira | around 125 line there is something fishy | 10:31 |
| sulumar | thats what you created with configure | 10:32 |
| daira | i know, but it doesnt work | 10:34 |
| bioterror | you have a laptop or desktop? | 10:34 |
| daira | so the question is how can i manually configure it to use either vesa driver or to put correct parameters to work with my monitor | 10:34 |
| daira | laptop | 10:34 |
| bioterror | what kind of laptop? | 10:35 |
| daira | fujitsu siemens, dont know much about it because it is not mine | 10:35 |
| daira | i can paste you the lshw if it will help | 10:35 |
| bioterror | you can look below it and see a model | 10:35 |
| bioterror | that's what I'm interested | 10:35 |
| daira | amilo pro v2055 | 10:35 |
| daira | i can see your point now, i googled the model and it turned out with the same problem on forums | 10:37 |
| * phillw yawns and stretches... hiyas bioterror :) | 10:39 | |
| bioterror | hi | 10:40 |
| bioterror | daira, I'm reading something, just a moment | 10:40 |
| * phillw sends bioterror to make his home wiki page. | 10:40 | |
| bioterror | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6825844&postcount=19 | 10:42 |
| bioterror | there's a xorg.conf for you and you should also install xserver-xorg-video-openchrom | 10:43 |
| daira | ok thank you | 10:43 |
| daira | i will try this | 10:43 |
| phillw | kansasn00b is quite safe to follow the instructions from, one of the good guys on the forums. | 10:44 |
| bioterror | I hate when things go dirty with the Xorg ;) | 10:44 |
| * phillw sends a cookie to bioterror, well dug out :D | 10:44 | |
| bioterror | tomorrow I will take my Windows 7 training exam-book with me to work and maybe a usb stick | 10:47 |
| bioterror | daira, did it do the trick?-) | 10:49 |
| * bioterror is excited | 10:49 | |
| daira | bioterror, sry i had a phonecall. i will do it right now | 10:49 |
| bioterror | np | 10:49 |
| bioterror | I have to say that the ace of penguins game package in lubuntu reminds me of the 90's | 10:50 |
| phillw | bioterror: we needed something low on resource usage :) | 10:50 |
| bioterror | phillw, do you like mahjong?-) | 10:50 |
| * phillw doesn't play games. | 10:51 | |
| bioterror | sure :-) | 10:51 |
| bioterror | I play only when it's dark and no one sees | 10:51 |
| phillw | (never has the time, with being on 10 channels) | 10:51 |
| phillw | So, bioterror, would you make a wiki page up? (Or I can make you a template so you can edit it). | 10:52 |
| phillw | pokes |friTTe| | 10:53 |
| bioterror | xmahjongg and with a xmahjongg --tileset name --layout name --background name etc etc | 10:53 |
| bioterror | it looks good | 10:53 |
| bioterror | wiki, me :o | 10:53 |
| bioterror | I did once in my work maintenance a wike page, it was okay until one guy got editing rights and he ruined it :D | 10:53 |
| phillw | yeah, a bit about you, such as |friTTe| has set up. | 10:54 |
| * phillw is a wiki admin, I can reverse changes :D | 10:54 | |
| daira | Hello, it didnt work | 10:54 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 10:54 |
| daira | i will paste the log now | 10:54 |
| bioterror | is that file named xorg.conf and not xorg.conf.new?-) | 10:54 |
| bioterror | gotta ask | 10:54 |
| daira | i did x -config to a xorg file from the net | 10:55 |
| daira | from tty | 10:55 |
| bioterror | ahh | 10:55 |
| daira | before that i did service lxdm stop | 10:55 |
| bioterror | correct o mundo | 10:56 |
| daira | and unichrome was allready installed | 10:57 |
| daira | openchrome | 10:57 |
| bioterror | as I have some back ground with real unixes, I sometimes use runlevels. in linux you can use runlevel 3 (init 3) to shutdown X, and get it back on with run level 5 (init 5) | 10:57 |
| bioterror | daira, I expected that | 10:57 |
| daira | : ) | 10:58 |
| bioterror | daira, can you please copy that xorg.conf file to /etc/X11 | 10:58 |
| bioterror | and reboot? | 10:58 |
| daira | sure | 10:58 |
| bioterror | if it could help | 10:58 |
| daira | but one question | 10:58 |
| bioterror | you can always delete it or something like | 10:58 |
| bioterror | or! | 10:58 |
| bioterror | if you have one which is working you can always do /etc/X11/$ cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak | 10:59 |
| daira | i have no xorg that is working : ) | 10:59 |
| bioterror | okay | 10:59 |
| bioterror | it's a good thing that we have a fresh intallation, right? | 10:59 |
| daira | yes | 10:59 |
| bioterror | if everyting goes wrong, we can always go to back square #1 and reinstall :D | 11:00 |
| daira | i can also connect to irc from terminal | 11:00 |
| daira | what whas that irc client | 11:00 |
| bioterror | irssi? | 11:00 |
| daira | great | 11:00 |
| daira | cya | 11:00 |
| daira | : ) | 11:00 |
| daira | Hello | 11:02 |
| bioterror | it was fast | 11:02 |
| daira | It almost works :D | 11:02 |
| daira | i have few pixels at the bottom of the screen scrambled | 11:02 |
| daira | i will upload screenshot now | 11:02 |
| bioterror | hahaha | 11:02 |
| daira | how to printscreen | 11:03 |
| daira | here | 11:03 |
| daira | here :) | 11:03 |
| bioterror | alt+f2 | 11:03 |
| bioterror | and you can type "scrot screenshot.png" | 11:03 |
| bioterror | without "" | 11:04 |
| bioterror | and it will makde a screenshot.png in your ~/ | 11:04 |
| daira | great | 11:04 |
| bioterror | if you dont find one, you have to apt-get install scrot | 11:04 |
| daira | http://bayimg.com/JApCkAacn | 11:05 |
| daira | it didnt catch the scrambled bottom | 11:05 |
| phillw | You can hold the Fn key down and press the PrtSc key, that will take a screen shot and put it in your ~home directory. | 11:05 |
| daira | also i cant go down with my mouse | 11:05 |
| bioterror | looks fine to me :D | 11:05 |
| daira | to scrambled area | 11:05 |
| daira | it is around 1.5 siye of toolbar | 11:06 |
| daira | size | 11:06 |
| bioterror | but hey, we're almost there! | 11:06 |
| daira | sure : ) | 11:06 |
| daira | i could take photo but i have no camera : ) | 11:06 |
| bioterror | not even in your phone?-) | 11:06 |
| daira | no | 11:06 |
| daira | i had no phone until yesterday | 11:07 |
| daira | i got one from friend | 11:07 |
| daira | just to have it | 11:07 |
| daira | : ) | 11:07 |
| daira | some old junk | 11:07 |
| daira | all margins seems ok, mouse cannot go beyond | 11:07 |
| daira | except the bottom one | 11:07 |
| bioterror | I just read that samsung is make a new galaxy model with full qwerty and it's hitting stores for the x-mas | 11:07 |
| bioterror | is making | 11:08 |
| phillw | !flood | 11:08 |
| ubot5 | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 11:08 |
| daira | i will hardly spend any $$ ever on any phone : ) | 11:08 |
| daira | sry phillw, not used to irc : ) | 11:09 |
| phillw | daira: it's okay, just be aware that the bot may get upset ;) | 11:10 |
| phillw | if you want to chat and chill out, please use #lubuntu-offtopic | 11:10 |
| daira | bioterror, some ideas how to solve this? | 11:11 |
| bioterror | daira, I'm thinking | 11:11 |
| bioterror | :-) | 11:11 |
| bioterror | but you're not alone with your problem | 11:12 |
| daira | somethimes this bottom area shows this top (what is it called) area of a window but doubled | 11:13 |
| daira | like XChat: daira @ Ubuntu Servers ... of Xchat | 11:13 |
| daira | also i have a problem with audio, it hears well from notebook speakers but when i connect the external amp trough lineout port i hear nothing | 11:34 |
| daira | actually i cannot say it hears well because the sound is really bad, but i think that it is because of speakers | 11:35 |
| bioterror | I just got a new mug of coffee | 11:36 |
| bioterror | doping my brains out and continuing with your problem | 11:36 |
| bioterror | :-) | 11:36 |
| daira | : ) | 11:36 |
| daira | i found the problem | 11:37 |
| daira | the resoultion is set to 1280x768 | 11:37 |
| bioterror | yes | 11:37 |
| bioterror | :-) | 11:37 |
| daira | not to 1200x800 :D | 11:37 |
| bioterror | in the config file?-) | 11:37 |
| daira | i went to display settings | 11:37 |
| bioterror | you got it to 1200x800 @60Hz or automatic? | 11:38 |
| daira | it is on 1280x768 | 11:38 |
| daira | i have no option for 1200x800 | 11:38 |
| daira | i should enter that manually i think | 11:38 |
| daira | into xorg | 11:38 |
| bioterror | yes | 11:38 |
| bioterror | and I gave the xorg.conf with correct settings with the post 19 | 11:38 |
| daira | i am using this xorg right now | 11:39 |
| bioterror | okay | 11:39 |
| daira | the one from the link you gave me | 11:39 |
| bioterror | just a moment | 11:39 |
| bioterror | ctrl and + mark | 11:39 |
| bioterror | does it change something? | 11:39 |
| daira | no | 11:40 |
| bioterror | Modes "1280x768@60" "1280x720@60" "800x600@60" "1280x800@60" "800x600@56" | 11:40 |
| daira | but i have to use shift for + mark | 11:40 |
| daira | i can see that also in xorg.conf but i cannot choose it from gui | 11:41 |
| daira | "Virtual1280 768" what is this | 11:41 |
| bioterror | that comes from the amiga times | 11:42 |
| bioterror | virtual desktop size or something like that | 11:42 |
| bioterror | remove those modes and put only 1200x800 | 11:43 |
| bioterror | and restart the X | 11:43 |
| daira | should i remove virtual also : ) | 11:45 |
| bioterror | yeah | 11:45 |
| bioterror | leave just 1200x800 | 11:45 |
| bioterror | let's see if that works | 11:45 |
| daira | what is shortcut to restart x | 11:45 |
| daira | ? | 11:45 |
| daira | CTRL ALT BACKSPACE? | 11:46 |
| bioterror | if it works | 11:46 |
| bioterror | I've seen comments that it doesnt work | 11:46 |
| bioterror | try it out | 11:46 |
| daira | i will reboot | 11:46 |
| daira | just to wait my download to finish | 11:47 |
| bioterror | :D | 11:47 |
| bioterror | there goes nothing ;) | 11:58 |
| daira | hey, now it is like before i believe | 12:01 |
| daira | 1600x200 | 12:01 |
| daira | 1200 | 12:01 |
| bioterror | ? :D | 12:02 |
| daira | what is terminal command to check resolution?\ | 12:02 |
| daira | xrandr outputs that i am using 1600x1200 @ 0 hz : ) | 12:03 |
| bioterror | what :D | 12:03 |
| daira | haha | 12:03 |
| bioterror | *double facepalm* :D | 12:04 |
| daira | seems like i should remove more things from xorg than just modes | 12:04 |
| bioterror | can you pastebin? | 12:04 |
| bioterror | I would like to see it | 12:04 |
| daira | xorg? | 12:04 |
| daira | http://paste.ubuntu.com/512306/ | 12:05 |
| bioterror | okay | 12:07 |
| bioterror | there's different kind of resolutions | 12:10 |
| daira | ... | 12:14 |
| bioterror | I have no idea about those sync rates | 12:14 |
| daira | i remember some website where it calculated syncrates for you | 12:23 |
| bioterror | hey | 12:25 |
| bioterror | hey hey hey! | 12:26 |
| bioterror | back to square #1 | 12:26 |
| bioterror | okay | 12:26 |
| bioterror | http://pastebin.org/166294 try that one | 12:27 |
| daira | ok | 12:28 |
| bioterror | "crosses fingers" | 12:28 |
| daira | hello | 12:40 |
| daira | still 1600 x 1200 | 12:40 |
| daira | and xorg is empty now when i opened it | 12:41 |
| bioterror | cant be | 12:41 |
| bioterror | it just cant be | 12:41 |
| daira | i will try again | 12:41 |
| bioterror | if you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:41 |
| daira | what is happening : ) | 12:42 |
| daira | even the txt i download from pastebin is empty | 12:42 |
| daira | yes, it is empty | 12:42 |
| daira | with nano also | 12:42 |
| bioterror | i m p o s s i b l e | 12:43 |
| bioterror | okay | 12:43 |
| bioterror | I'm gathering myself | 12:43 |
| bioterror | let's open terminal | 12:43 |
| daira | i had to shutdown by holding power button | 12:43 |
| bioterror | hey | 12:43 |
| bioterror | open terminal | 12:43 |
| daira | did it | 12:43 |
| bioterror | let's do it like this | 12:43 |
| bioterror | sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:44 |
| bioterror | and paste that stuff | 12:44 |
| bioterror | Wed14:27 <bioterror> http://pastebin.org/166294 try that one | 12:44 |
| daira | 0 lines | 12:44 |
| bioterror | and close it with ctrl+x | 12:44 |
| bioterror | press y as yes | 12:44 |
| bioterror | and press then enter | 12:44 |
| bioterror | and can you cofirm with "$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" | 12:47 |
| bioterror | that there's not that stuff | 12:47 |
| daira | ok | 12:47 |
| bioterror | you can paste with your mouses middle button (3) | 12:47 |
| bioterror | if you dont have three buttons, you can emulate it by pressy both buttons at the same time | 12:48 |
| daira | what does cat do? | 12:48 |
| bioterror | it shows that file | 12:49 |
| bioterror | nothing more, nothing "less" ;) | 12:49 |
| daira | it just shows nothing | 12:49 |
| bioterror | how | 12:49 |
| bioterror | you just added stuff in there? :D | 12:49 |
| bioterror | let's try it this way alt+f2 to open the "run prompt" | 12:50 |
| bioterror | gksudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:50 |
| bioterror | paste that pastebin what I gave to you | 12:50 |
| bioterror | and save it | 12:50 |
| daira | ok | 12:50 |
| bioterror | by pressing ctrl+s | 12:50 |
| daira | just a minute | 12:51 |
| bioterror | gksudo should ask the permission to run as root | 12:51 |
| daira | i did | 12:54 |
| bioterror | if we now do in terminal cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:54 |
| bioterror | does it show us something? | 12:54 |
| daira | shows xorg | 12:55 |
| daira | full | 12:55 |
| bioterror | does it now have those parameters in side it? :D | 12:55 |
| daira | yes :D | 12:56 |
| bioterror | how about reboot or something | 12:56 |
| bioterror | and wonder if it's empty again | 12:56 |
| daira | ok | 12:56 |
| daira | how can i reboot from terminal? | 12:56 |
| bioterror | :D | 12:56 |
| bioterror | sudo reboot | 12:56 |
| daira | hello | 12:59 |
| bioterror | gimme some good news | 12:59 |
| daira | I am using irrsi now | 12:59 |
| daira | : ) | 12:59 |
| daira | screen scrambled | 12:59 |
| daira | on 1200x800 | 12:59 |
| daira | I wonder if 1200x800 is the real resolution for this monitor | 12:59 |
| daira | if 1280x768 worked partially | 13:00 |
| bioterror | you can try 1280x800 | 13:00 |
| daira | yes | 13:00 |
| daira | i think that should do the trick | 13:00 |
| bioterror | we have got nothing to lose | 13:01 |
| daira | i will go to tty2 and edit it in nano | 13:01 |
| daira | what exactly should i edit? | 13:01 |
| bioterror | the line with "virtual 1200 800" | 13:02 |
| bioterror | change it to 1280 | 13:02 |
| bioterror | I think | 13:02 |
| daira | i did | 13:02 |
| daira | lemme try : ) | 13:02 |
| daira | WHOILA | 13:04 |
| daira | it works : ) | 13:04 |
| bioterror | \o/ | 13:04 |
| daira | thank you bioterror | 13:04 |
| bioterror | np | 13:05 |
| bioterror | so, you had a problem with sounds. HAHAHAHA : | 13:05 |
| bioterror | :D | 13:05 |
| daira | yes : ) | 13:05 |
| bioterror | I have 55 minutes of my workday left | 13:05 |
| bioterror | what shall we do now | 13:05 |
| bioterror | 4th mug of coffee, maybe?-) | 13:05 |
| daira | i will google it first : ) | 13:05 |
| bioterror | daira, I bet it's a little satisfying when you small things like that to work | 13:08 |
| daira | i just love the fact that when i configure the notebook with linux they never call me again, it allways works | 13:09 |
| daira | so it's worth the trouble : ) | 13:09 |
| daira | it would be good to paste correct xorg.conf to forums maybe | 13:10 |
| phillw | pop it onto http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332 to help others. | 13:13 |
| bioterror | daira, I had a problem with Dell D600 regarding suspend/resume. when I solved my problem, my son broke the DC adapter on the motherboard :-) | 13:15 |
| daira | :D | 13:16 |
| bioterror | I enjoyed a working suspend/resume for a 5 days | 13:16 |
| bioterror | and I had that problem for like 4 months | 13:16 |
| daira | i found this for my audio problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/76784 | 13:16 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 76784 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Audio-output error in Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pro V2055 (affected: 0, heat: 2)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 13:16 |
| daira | how to enter sound configuration on lubuntu? | 13:17 |
| bioterror | oookay | 13:24 |
| bioterror | daira, amixer -q set "Duplicate Front" mute | 13:24 |
| bioterror | put that in your terminal | 13:24 |
| daira | still not working | 13:25 |
| bioterror | you dont hear anything at all? | 13:26 |
| daira | no | 13:26 |
| daira | only on speakers | 13:26 |
| daira | seems like it is old problem, but i havent found any solution to it | 13:29 |
| bioterror | usb soundcard, hahaha | 13:29 |
| daira | no way : ) | 13:30 |
| === kancerman_ is now known as kancerman | ||
| bioterror | daira, http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/02/sound-problems-in-ubuntu-gutsy-710.html :D | 13:44 |
| daira | i found the solution | 13:45 |
| daira | just now | 13:45 |
| bioterror | you got it working | 13:45 |
| daira | must try it | 13:45 |
| daira | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/184314/comments/49 | 13:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 184314 in linux (Ubuntu) "Headphone jack does not work in NC1502 (affected: 1, heat: 7)" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:45 |
| daira | now, how to find out what alsadriver version am i using? | 13:45 |
| bioterror | $ dpkg -l alsa-base | 13:47 |
| bioterror | ii alsa-base 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3 ALSA driver configuration files | 13:47 |
| daira | thx | 13:47 |
| daira | seems like i have the latest alsa driver | 13:47 |
| bioterror | you really got yourself a laptop with issues | 13:49 |
| daira | although this is vt17xx card and mine is vt23xx | 13:50 |
| daira | if i have the same driver version and i manually compile it, will it override previous driver? | 13:52 |
| bioterror | you can try it ;) | 13:53 |
| daira | : ) | 13:54 |
| daira | i got some errors in "make" | 13:55 |
| bioterror | :D | 13:55 |
| bioterror | errors are bad, warning are okay | 13:55 |
| daira | http://paste.ubuntu.com/512361/ | 13:56 |
| bioterror | well, my work day is done and I'm about to hit the train station and head to my home | 13:56 |
| daira | heh, thx for help | 13:57 |
| bioterror | hope the leafs are off the tracks so that the train is not late like 40 minutes or something like and the train goes all the way to my home station | 13:57 |
| daira | should i try to compile it | 13:57 |
| bioterror | we have had somekind of problems today | 13:57 |
| daira | and gl with your train : ) | 13:57 |
| bioterror | aahhhh | 13:57 |
| bioterror | you're compiling a whole kernel | 13:57 |
| bioterror | daaamn | 13:57 |
| daira | omg : ) | 13:58 |
| bioterror | if I got it right? | 13:58 |
| bioterror | or something like | 13:58 |
| daira | no | 13:58 |
| daira | just alsa driver i believe | 13:58 |
| bioterror | or what was it doing in the kernel folder :D | 13:58 |
| daira | dunno | 13:58 |
| bioterror | hahaha | 13:58 |
| bioterror | okay | 13:59 |
| daira | i will ask this in ubuntu irc, now that you are going home : ) | 14:01 |
| bioterror | thanks for the confidence ;) | 14:04 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys | 15:09 |
| kosaidpo | is it possible to install a gaia theme on lubuntu | 15:09 |
| kosaidpo | cus icudnt at all | 15:09 |
| kosaidpo | if so can someone tell me how please | 15:09 |
| OlMightyGreek | hi | 15:45 |
| OlMightyGreek | is there a 64bit version of lubuntu? | 15:45 |
| bioterror | not yet, but do you have over 3GB of RAM?-) | 15:46 |
| OlMightyGreek | yes | 15:46 |
| OlMightyGreek | 4gb | 15:46 |
| bioterror | it depends on the kernel configuration if sees it all | 15:46 |
| bioterror | 4GB is the limit on 32bit system | 15:47 |
| === Mossyfunk is now known as Mossyfunk|Sleepi | ||
| === Mossyfunk|Sleepi is now known as keyboardface | ||
| === keyboardface is now known as Mossyfunk|Sleep | ||
| daira | is there a way for aqualung not to open another instance when i click another song from the file manager | 16:39 |
| phillw | bioterror: if they want a 64Bit version, they need to use minimal install and put the 64bit kernel on. | 17:03 |
| eee701FTW | I want to remove some applications from my fresh install of lubuntu 10.10. However, it wants to remove lubuntu-desktop as well in every case. | 17:20 |
| eee701FTW | how do I remove, say, chromium without removing lubuntu-desktop too? | 17:20 |
| phillw | eee701FTW: the desktop package is a meta package and be removed | 17:20 |
| eee701FTW | Okay, thanks. Just appeared to be a bad idea at a glance. | 17:21 |
| eee701FTW | prob solved. | 17:21 |
| eee701FTW | cya | 17:21 |
| phillw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/RemoveLubuntuDesktop | 17:22 |
| b0mz | Hi guys, i want to get lubuntu on an USB with unetbootin.. I dont see lubuntu on the distro list, does it work if i choose ubuntu or xubuntu but with the lubuntu.iso file? =/ | 17:45 |
| phillw | b0mz: unetbootin will put it on if you have the iso file on your computer. lubuntu is not 'adopoted' yet. | 17:46 |
| phillw | b0mz: please use the torrents, the servers are getting hammered !!!!! | 17:46 |
| b0mz | phillw: ok, so i can choose ubuntu then? phillw im downloading it from an swedish server :) | 17:47 |
| phillw | you would need to download the lubuntu iso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Get%20Lubuntu and then tell unetbootin to use that iso to create the usb. | 17:48 |
| b0mz | phillw: yes i know, but lubuntu doesnt exist in unetbootin list.. my question was if it doesnt matter if i choose ubuntu or xubuntu from that list | 17:50 |
| * phillw thinks the secondary server is quiet if you need a direct download. That's my server area and they haven't shouted at me... yet :P | 17:50 | |
| b0mz | :) | 17:50 |
| phillw | b0mz: if you have the lubuntu iso, then you can tell unebootin to use a local iso. | 17:50 |
| phillw | *unetbootin* | 17:51 |
| b0mz | aight now i see that, sorry... my mistake | 17:51 |
| phillw | b0mz: there is no need to apologise while you are learning :) | 17:51 |
| b0mz | thanks ;) | 17:52 |
| camster | hello! just installed lubuntu. i was running a webcam on cheese and recording video just fine under ubuntu 10.04. cheese loads in lubuntu but recording video fails. is there anything i can do to get it to work? thx | 17:52 |
| camster | i switched to lubuntu as its faster on this cheap computer | 17:53 |
| camster | cheese does see the webcam in lubuntu, but attempting to record video does not work | 17:54 |
| phillw | camster: I'm sorry, I'm not really up to speed on multimedia stuff, if you head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 and have a read of what they have, if you need to ask a question, use the lubuntu tag. | 17:54 |
| camster | ok thanks | 17:56 |
| === david is now known as Guest739 | ||
| sepplmaster | hey to all! i am looking for a backup solution, like deja dup for lubuntu but i do not want to use nautilus. can anyone help me? | 18:38 |
| phillw | sepplmaster: depends if you like cli or gui? | 18:41 |
| phillw | (command line or grphics) | 18:41 |
| phillw | *graphics) | 18:41 |
| bioterror | I've heard only good about rsync | 18:44 |
| phillw | okies, give me one moment and I'll dig a couple of links out for you to look at. | 18:45 |
| * phillw here's one I wrote earlier :D http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25#p27 | 18:46 | |
| sepplmaster1 | phillw: excuse me, but i was afk. well graphics would be better | 19:06 |
| === sepplmaster1 is now known as sepplmaster | ||
| phillw | sepplmaster: use either CloneZilla or Pybackpack. | 19:07 |
| phillw | both are excellent Graphical systems. | 19:07 |
| sepplmaster | phillw: i have heared about pybackpack, and will try it. i was not sure wether it depends on nautilus. clone zilla is only for entire partitions so it is not my favourite. | 19:08 |
| phillw | pybackpack is good for normal backups, I use clonezilla for disk backups. | 19:09 |
| sepplmaster | phillw: the forum entry looks interesting, marked it as a favourite, will try pybackpack now. | 19:10 |
| phillw | there are some others around, but I only have experience of them two. you can ask in #ubuntu-beginners to ask what others recommend. | 19:10 |
| sepplmaster | phillw: i chose #lubuntu because i thought you will know about the problems with nautilus dependencies but good idea. i will try! thank you for now. | 19:12 |
| phillw | just let them know that you don't want gnome and are using lubuntu. But pybackpack is pretty lean and mean. | 19:13 |
| phillw | sepplmaster: you can "/join #lubuntu-offtopic" if you want, we don't bite :) | 19:20 |
| aaq | any one out there, one who cares? | 20:58 |
| bioterror | me | 20:58 |
| bioterror | what's your problem? | 20:58 |
| aaq | well after i installed lubuntu | 20:59 |
| aaq | and uodated | 20:59 |
| aaq | it deleted win7 boot | 20:59 |
| bioterror | okay | 20:59 |
| bioterror | this is though one | 20:59 |
| aaq | 3rd time :( | 21:00 |
| bioterror | well | 21:00 |
| bioterror | I'm trying to gather myself up | 21:00 |
| bioterror | and we can try to do it | 21:00 |
| bioterror | okay! ;) | 21:00 |
| bioterror | have you used terminal? | 21:01 |
| bioterror | is it weird for you? | 21:01 |
| aaq | not motch | 21:01 |
| aaq | its like matrix | 21:01 |
| bioterror | but you know how to use nano?-) | 21:01 |
| aaq | nano? | 21:01 |
| aaq | sry | 21:01 |
| aaq | but does this happend with ubuntu to? | 21:02 |
| phillw | !grub2 | aaq | 21:03 |
| ubot5 | aaq: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 21:03 |
| phillw | aaq: if you just want to re-install the windows boot loader and loose the ubuntu area, you can do that, else sometimes a re-install of grub2 will settle things down for you. | 21:04 |
| aaq | i want lubuntu and win. | 21:05 |
| bioterror | well | 21:05 |
| aaq | so i guess i have to look into grub | 21:06 |
| phillw | aaq: give me one moment | 21:06 |
| bioterror | we could edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 21:06 |
| bioterror | we only need to dig out your windows partition (which is /dev/sda1 for sure) and the UUID for it | 21:06 |
| phillw | aaq: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708 | 21:06 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys | 21:07 |
| kosaidpo | im wondein how ican install gaia theme they look cool and wanna install one but i see no way to | 21:07 |
| kosaidpo | can someone please tell me how | 21:07 |
| phillw | aaq I have more detailed instructions for if that does not work, but get the win boot loader back on & make sure win7 is happy, then put grub2 back on. | 21:07 |
| aaq | ok. thanks | 21:08 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: hello : D | 21:08 |
| kosaidpo | have you ever tried gaia them on lubuntu ? | 21:09 |
| phillw | hiyas kosaidpo yes, I saw your question earlier, but I'm not a 'themes' person, you may be better asking on the mailing list, unless one of the people who know how to do it are in. | 21:10 |
| phillw | I do have a forum posting of it, so can always try to find that. | 21:10 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: okies thnaks mych other then that hows you | 21:10 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: /join #lubuntu-offtopic | 21:12 |
| kosaidpo | /join #lubuntu-offtopic | 21:12 |
| kosaidpo | hihi | 21:12 |
| kosaidpo | idk why icant get on it | 21:12 |
| kosaidpo | ahh the lil space : ) | 21:12 |
| aaq | well now i just need to know how to get acess to lubuntu to fix grub ^^ | 21:35 |
| bioterror | sounds like livecd and chroot | 21:35 |
| bioterror | !chroot | 21:35 |
| ubot5 | A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot | 21:35 |
| phillw | aaq: do you have a cd with (l)ubuntu on it? | 21:39 |
| aaq | usb | 21:39 |
| phillw | but you can boot from it? | 21:39 |
| aaq | yes | 21:39 |
| phillw | one moment .... | 21:39 |
| phillw | aaq: you will be able to use http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 just be really careful with device names !!!! | 21:41 |
| aaq | ok ill try | 21:41 |
| aaq | thanks' | 21:41 |
| phillw | aaq: if it is just a grub issue, have a read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 | 21:44 |
| aaq | yes and no i think | 21:45 |
| phillw | aaq: try http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 first, I don't really think it is a kernel issue; as I doubt you have deleted that. | 21:46 |
| aaq | but this make ma head hurt | 21:46 |
| phillw | "When a good Grub2 becomes a poorly Grub2" is the section you want | 21:47 |
| mark76 | When good Grubs go bad | 21:47 |
| phillw | aaq: it makes your head hurt? Just imagine how much it hurt my head when I wrote it !!!! | 21:48 |
| aaq | :) | 21:48 |
| aaq | well i know nothing of this | 21:49 |
| aaq | just looking forward to my girlfrind is going to fix hers | 21:49 |
| phillw | aaq: just so as you know, http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57#p81 | 21:51 |
| phillw | my instructions are checked out before I post them on my forum or onto the lubuntu wiki area. | 21:51 |
| aaq | well i have reinstalled win and lubunto 2 times so i dont care if it goes to hell. i just want to find i way to get it working even if that mean reinstalling | 21:53 |
| aaq | but i guess someone it working his ass off over this? its not only me? | 21:54 |
| phillw | 10.10 is fairly recent, let me have a look and see if it is having issues with Win7 | 21:54 |
| aaq | but i installed 10.10 | 21:55 |
| aaq | and it was some linux image update and then it failed | 21:56 |
| phillw | is okay, I'm just asking Mr Grub :) | 21:56 |
| phillw | aaq: then you will need to use http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35 to get a replacement kernel. Again, be really careful of device names. | 21:58 |
| phillw | aaq: there are no reported issues from thousands of users with 10.10 and Win7. Can I suggest that you check the install cd passes the self test. | 21:59 |
| aaq | hmm | 22:00 |
| phillw | if you're on usb, then you need to manually check the iso download on both your computer and the usb stick | 22:00 |
| aaq | well it did work until i updated | 22:00 |
| aaq | so i had both win7 and lubuntu 10.10 | 22:01 |
| phillw | I'm guesssing there was a file corruption as you downloaded the updates. | 22:01 |
| aaq | maybe but it happend 3 times :) | 22:02 |
| aaq | should i dl updates while installing? | 22:04 |
| phillw | no, do not do the updates. get the system up and stable first. | 22:04 |
| phillw | aaq: ensure you do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/CheckCD to the iso file you're using to make the usb stick with. | 22:06 |
| aaq | kk | 22:08 |
| head_victim | Is there anywhere that has differences between Lubuntu and a mini iso with lxde over the top? | 22:15 |
| head_victim | Google is only showing me something from 2009 | 22:15 |
| phillw | head_victim: I'm not sure, but you now have two options to install lubuntu via the mini-iso | 22:17 |
| phillw | standard and cut-down | 22:18 |
| head_victim | I was curious because I have a Lubuntu 10.10 in a VM from the Beta and I have a 10.04 that was originally gnome with lxde installed over the top and they look very different. | 22:19 |
| * phillw has just realised has missed a page on the wiki :'( | 22:20 | |
| phillw | head_victim: if you have gnome with it, you will have a legacy of gnome on it. | 22:21 |
| bioterror | !removing gnome | 22:22 |
| bioterror | :D | 22:22 |
| head_victim | I'm thinking simply using Lubuntu will just be "easier" | 22:22 |
| phillw | you can rid your system of gnome | 22:22 |
| phillw | head_victim: and a lot faster :) | 22:22 |
| bioterror | I have to remember that ubuntu mini iso is for the 64bit installation | 22:23 |
| head_victim | phillw: so lubuntu is quicker than mini iso + lxde? | 22:23 |
| phillw | lxde and lubuntu work very closely together, so you will get a system that works well together. | 22:23 |
| head_victim | Ok. I'm hoping the scroll wheel flicking through all my open windows will be gone when I install it properly as opposed to in a vm. It's painful with a free scrolling mouse | 22:24 |
| phillw | head_victim: I can only repeat what others say, and that is that they love lubuntu. | 22:25 |
| head_victim | My 2.4 celeron is starting to really chug with gnome and xfce wasn't really much different. | 22:25 |
| phillw | lxde is smaller than xubuntu, "A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MiB of RAM is probably a bottom-line configuration that may yield slow yet usable system with Lubuntu." and we know it works on such systems. | 22:26 |
| head_victim | Yeah I was pretty happy with it in the vm. It may just save me buying a new pc if I'm lucky. | 22:27 |
| phillw | head_victim: I do see people pop on here thanking the team for breathing life into an older computer. | 22:28 |
| kosaidpo | peace out guys | 22:28 |
| head_victim | It's coupled with a quad core sitting beside it with synergy so I don't NEED another powerhouse, I just use this for irc, amsn & skype. It's nice while gaming to have a whole second PC sitting there with other things going. I never thought dual head was a good solution when you can have dual PCs. | 22:29 |
| === head_v is now known as head_victim | ||
| phillw | head_victim: if it meets the minimum spec, you'll be very pleasantly suprised. lubuntu is very gentle on resources and RAM | 22:31 |
| head_victim | RAM is cheap and so easy to expand. The CPU has been my bottleneck for ages. | 22:31 |
| phillw | gnome is an eater of CPU, lxde is not. | 22:32 |
| szczur | head_victim, about this mini.iso + lxde vs lubuntu. if you will add lubuntu ppa to the mini.iso based system there will be no difference except the gtk theme and so on | 22:33 |
| szczur | you can install lubuntu and then disable unneded daemons | 22:34 |
| aaq | @phillw now i got both win7 and lubuntu up and running. so now its just to never update lubuntu? | 22:34 |
| meetingology | aaq: Error: "phillw" is not a valid command. | 22:34 |
| head_victim | szczur: so not a huge performance difference? | 22:34 |
| szczur | bluetooth for example if you don't use it | 22:34 |
| szczur | head_victim, not really | 22:34 |
| head_victim | szczur, fair enough I'll stick with Lubuntu install then, just a little easier. | 22:34 |
| szczur | but if you want only your software (for example you use gedit and not leafpad) you can use mini.iso | 22:35 |
| szczur | and install everything manually | 22:35 |
| szczur | this will save you a couple of megabytes :) | 22:35 |
| head_victim | Yeah, I'm still working on getting chromium to do everything I want but it's getting there. | 22:35 |
| phillw | aaq: I'd leave it be, if it is working. I'm still asking for you. | 22:35 |
| head_victim | I have 80gb for / so I think I'm safe :) | 22:36 |
| szczur | ohh, so there's no problem i think :) | 22:36 |
| szczur | another advantage is that you know what you have on your system and that you have only software you want. but it's more time consuming that installing ready to use lubuntu | 22:37 |
| head_victim | Anyone been able to get the program "mail-notification" working? Everytime I try to add a mailbox it aborts with a small list of gtk and glib errors. | 22:37 |
| head_victim | szczur, yeah that's handy but looking at Lubuntu it doesn't seem to dump a bunch of stuff needlessly anyway | 22:38 |
| szczur | that's true | 22:38 |
| * phillw waves to szczur | 22:39 | |
| szczur | what are the specs of PC you're trying to put Lubuntu on? | 22:39 |
| szczur | hi phillw :) | 22:39 |
| szczur | and high five goes to bioterror | 22:39 |
| szczur | as well gilir | 22:39 |
| bioterror | *5* | 22:40 |
| head_victim | 2.4 celeron, 3gb ram 7600gs video card 80gb / and 500gb /home | 22:40 |
| szczur | O_o | 22:40 |
| szczur | whoa :) | 22:40 |
| phillw | szczur: /join #lubuntu-offtopic | 22:40 |
| head_victim | The CPU is really killing me and making me want to buy a new PC. Lubuntu is my effort to save buying a new pc. | 22:41 |
| szczur | ireplace celeron with pentium | 22:41 |
| szczur | 12kB of L2 cache is overkill | 22:41 |
| szczur | 128* | 22:41 |
| head_victim | Is this error something easily fixed or is it hinting that the program requires a gnome install? http://www.lubuntu.pastebin.com/V21EHX4q | 22:47 |
| szczur | head_victim, i'd ask you to post it in bugzilla and/or ubuntu forums | 22:49 |
| phillw | head_victim: we do not use evolution in lubuntu | 22:49 |
| szczur | this would help us squash the bug and fix the problem | 22:50 |
| head_victim | phillw yeah it's not only for evolution mailboxes | 22:50 |
| head_victim | szczur no dramas, I wasn't sure if it was just a "it's dependant on gnome" thing or not. | 22:50 |
| szczur | maybe, the problems is that lxpanel doesn't work in the same way as gnome panel is, I think | 22:51 |
| szczur | -, | 22:51 |
| head_victim | Ah fair enough I know enough about things to get me into trouble | 22:52 |
| head_victim | Not much more :) | 22:52 |
| szczur | head_victim, try gnubiff > http://gnubiff.sourceforge.net/ | 22:54 |
| szczur | don't know if it will work but it doesn't need GNOME to work | 22:54 |
| szczur | maybe it is worth to try | 22:54 |
| head_victim | szczur, setting it up now | 23:01 |
| head_victim | I found a little script on the forum that sort of does what I want | 23:01 |
| kieths | Question regarding customizing a USB Pendrive 'live' version... | 23:06 |
| phillw | ask away kieths | 23:08 |
| kieths | Installating with 'persistence' develops problems after perhaps 30~50 boots (suspect writing too much to the USB / SD card). Goal is to customized once, write once, then only read, as in 'livecd' but using an SD / USB pendrive | 23:08 |
| kieths | Problems developed include incorrect sudoers mode, and corrupted file. Correctable (using Ubuntu to mount casper, etc.), but bothersome. | 23:10 |
| kieths | Prefer to mount (something) to modify the core list of file one time, then save to USB and only read. | 23:10 |
| phillw | kieths: select no area for persistance, else 'burn' the usb as a CD - it would mean you have no memory for what you do on the computer. It's more likely that you need a usb stick that meets speedboost requirements. | 23:12 |
| kieths | Hmmm... Currently using a 4GB Class 10 SD (EeePC supports boot to SD). Currently doing a persistence of 3GB. Killed Google Chrome, added Firefox, a couple other aps, scripts, and replaced teh built in network drivers. Needless to say, there's some extra space needed for these mods. But I don't want it 'auto-modding' and breaking the work done (it's corrupting mods, I suspect due to writing too often). | 23:15 |
| phillw | kieths: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tomarcher/archive/2006/06/02/615199.aspx should point you in the correct direction, I have one that I use for ubuntu / lubuntu usb installs. | 23:16 |
| phillw | I also have one from Canonical store which is also working perfectly. | 23:17 |
| kieths | Tok a quick glance. Will read in detail this afternoon. | 23:17 |
| kieths | Thinking I need to pre-modify an ISO to add in dependencies, etc before blasting to SD/USB. That make any sense? | 23:18 |
| kieths | For the corrupted files / wrong mode issue, I was able to mount my Lubuntu SD card using Ubuntu 10.04 (full install), and using root, correct the corrupted problems, temporarily. Building the bootable SD takes perhaps 2 hours. Glitching takes seconds if something goes wrong. If only I could clone it once I get it right. | 23:23 |
| phillw | kieths: yup it does, you may want to take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html or possibly look at remastersys via http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html | 23:24 |
| head_victim | kieths, I've run persistent usb installs on standard (even cheap) usb drives before for months. | 23:24 |
| head_victim | Tried it with a different SD card? | 23:25 |
| phillw | kieths: soz for the gaps, I have to and dig the links up !!!! | 23:25 |
| phillw | *to go and* | 23:25 |
| kieths | Not yet. Copied the linx, will sincerely read and research. Got the one Class 10 4GB. Got a ton of 1GB cards. If I could create a custom card - as in no Google Chrome wasting space, no wrong drivers, only the stuff I need, it may fit to 1 GB. THEN, if I could CLONE the SD card to backup the effort...amazing solution. | 23:27 |
| head_victim | Good luck getting down to 1gb :) | 23:28 |
| kieths | The 1GB is too small for any kind of persistence, though. Wouldn't matter. A thumb drive is perfect for copying out any data. | 23:28 |
| phillw | kieths: you can use minimal install, then the minimal lubuntu install. | 23:28 |
| kieths | I can install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS in a 1GB SD card. Lubuntu should fit easily. | 23:29 |
| phillw | and No, I have not yet written up the full instructions yet :p | 23:29 |
| kieths | Lubuntu is good stuff. I have a serious problem with Google Chrome, though. | 23:30 |
| phillw | lubuntu is, from memory, about 540MB atm, so should happily fit on a SD card. | 23:30 |
| kieths | Yes, definately. | 23:30 |
| * phillw is getting used to it. I have to use Ffox for some of my web-dev stuff; but chromium is becomming a really good browser. | 23:31 | |
| kieths | I truly believe that missing Google Chrome, it could hold FF and choice other aps/scripts under the 1 GB mark. | 23:31 |
| * phillw is biased as I also know the guy who deals with the *buntu / Chromium bugs really quickly; he's a star. | 23:32 | |
| kieths | Chrome is crashing on me seriously. It finally gave up, and no longer runs under the USB install. Can't figure which dependency glitched. Installed FF, killed teh G-C shortcuts. FF works much better, and has much more add-on support. | 23:32 |
| kieths | Chrome is lighter weight, but no running one all the websites I visit. | 23:33 |
| phillw | kieths: please file a bug report. Fabian cannot get it investigated unless it is reported. If you prefer, just email what information you have on it over phillw@phillw.net and I will ensure he gets to know about it. "Bugs that are not reported will only be fixed by accident" | 23:34 |
| kieths | Is there an effort to make a module-picker for building customized Lubuntu (similar to the Slax concept)? | 23:35 |
| phillw | kieths: there is a difference between Chrome and Chromium, which have you been using? | 23:35 |
| kieths | Default in Lubuntu 10.04. It doesn't run, so I can't open it and read it to tell you. | 23:36 |
| phillw | well, if you're running 10.04 you are long way out of date. you may well find that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Have%2010.04%20and%20want%2010.10? sorts out your problems | 23:38 |
| kieths | I tried to use it when I first flashed. It worked. Booted perhaps 20+ times, then one day is simply would run Google at all. Click, pause like it's opening, then.... nothing. Pulled in FF via GZ file on USB, installed smooth, problem resolved (for me at the time). | 23:38 |
| phillw | I really think it is a hardware issue, either the SD card / USB stick. | 23:39 |
| kieths | There is, and will constantly be minor and major version updates. I'm trying to make an SD card that...works. I can change OS's for each release, but it will take a bout 2 hours of customizing each time. It's like your alarm clock - there's a new version of firmware that adds 12 new 'bells'. As long as it wakes me in the morning.... | 23:41 |
| phillw | 10.10 of lubuntu will be here untill 11.04 :) | 23:41 |
| kieths | Wish for a familiar browser that has all the add-ons I use daily - forecastfox, fasterfox, and various others. Never liked the Google colors or feel, and it crashing permanently gave me another excuse to not use that. | 23:43 |
| kieths | OK.. will pull down 10.10 | 23:43 |
| kieths | ...IF it uses Firefox. | 23:43 |
| phillw | no, you can do it via the mini-iso and have no browser at all. The reason we use chromium is that is less resource hungry than Ffox. | 23:45 |
| kieths | Serious note, thanks, phillw, for the links. Will research, and hopefully find input to better the SD situation. Will also buy a second card for comparison. | 23:45 |
| kieths | Agreed.. Google is smaller footprint and resource wise. It just kills my morning weather forecasts (bottom bar - not a website), the international times (Foxclocks, again bottom bar), and several others. I'll pay the bandwidth and resources, even if using an older 900 MHz box, for the conveniences. | 23:47 |
| kieths | Familiar wins over quick to crash | 23:48 |
| stlsaint | phillw: sup, i added lubuntu to autojoin but moved to other lappy so i had to readd :D | 23:51 |
| kieths | Got to run for a bit. Thanks again Phillw, for your advice and assistance. | 23:52 |
| phillw | stlsaint: lol, you may want to pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic once in a while, we relax in there | 23:52 |
| bioterror | :D | 23:52 |
| head_victim | szczur, I've been able to get that gnubiff configured pretty well actually thanks for the pointer | 23:57 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!