[00:00] I have successfully used DSL liveCD [00:00] but unfortunately DSL project is dead [00:00] DSL and puppy are the only ones I can think of for that RAM [00:00] okay, thanks anyway :) [00:01] if you search for "puppy linux" I think that project is still going [00:03] yeah, looking through their pages. Trying to find minimum sys requirements [00:04] problem is, I need to use a boot floppy in order to access the CDrom [00:04] DSL had that, but their partition manager wouldn't let me resize the Windows 95 partition [00:08] I realize I might have to give dual-booting up though. It's hard to find projects where I can use floppies nowadays [00:28] * phillw sorry was away, but I 'think' that http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ covers floppy disks. [00:30] thanks, will look at that (their site is really unprofessional, not a good sign) [00:31] Arthur_D: that site is an excellent resource, their instructions can be trusted. [00:32] okay, I just hate the ads everywhere, thanks for the affirmation [00:33] Arthur_D: have a look at the resulst at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/search/floppy That may help you out. [00:34] thanks a lot phillw for your kind help :) [00:34] all I can say is everyone I've asked to use that site has respsonded that it worked. Please let me know how you get on with a floppy install. [00:37] problem is, all the instructions seems to be aimed at using floppy to boot from USB. I need to use floppy to boot from CD [00:47] Arthur_D, http://cutecomputer.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/boot-cdrom-through-grub/ < you can try this [00:47] it seems that this is the case :) [00:48] ahh, not exactly [00:48] nevermind [00:48] forget about it :) [00:48] okay, thanks for trying anyway :) [00:48] I got a tip from a guy over at #puppylinux that seems to be worth trying [00:50] will need to try it later though, as I need to sleep soon ;) [00:51] you can try this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy [00:52] and then add cdrom entry from previous site i linked in :) [00:53] hm, unfortunately my main computer doesn't have a floppy drive [00:53] maybe I can get hold of one though [01:05] good night folks, and thanks for all the help :) [01:11] I have installed fresh 10.10 and when update manager tries to update packages it fails. First time on python-something, this time on "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.35-22-generic /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic" [01:12] nvidia-common? there no nvidia components in this laptop.... intel onboard video [01:13] is it trying to install the wrong kernel package? [01:13] and the python-something failed last time === dan__ is now known as Mossyfunk [02:00] !topic [02:00] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic === phillw changed the topic of #lubuntu to: 10.10 for Lubuntu has been released, please use the torrent at http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso.torrent. Documentation can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu === raskah is now known as Mossyfunk1 === dan__ is now known as Mossyfunk [03:42] let me put it this way, i recently upgrouded to 10.10 from 10.04 and now when i plug in the logitech 8 jack into the headphone thingy there's no sound, the laptop keeps playing it from its own internal mic, how do i fix this [05:10] how do i make nautilus my default file manager on lubuntu? [07:04] hello? [07:06] Anybody familiar with Lubuntu run on a Pendrive with persistence enabled? I've lost sudo, and need to enter a nn-existant 'Recovery Mode' to repair it... [07:09] #ubuntu [08:08] anyone === Freejack is now known as Freejack` [08:48] Good Morning [08:48] hi [08:55] hello sulumar [08:55] hello bioterror [08:55] morning [08:58] Does anyone know how to make an inserted medium show up as an icon on the desktop? [08:59] does it show in pcmanfm? [08:59] in file manager [08:59] yeah [09:00] just trying to make things as easy as possible for the laptop owner [09:01] you're doing some pre-installations?-) [09:01] just one [09:01] I hope it's a hot chick with nice body ;) [09:01] hehe nah just a good mate [09:04] just setting rythmbox for his ipod, and XP in a VM in case he needs it. just want the plug and play to show on desktop and i'm happy [09:05] come back phill =( [09:06] :D [09:07] why I dont have a usb stick in my shoulder bag [09:07] I could boot something usefull instead of this windows xp :-) [09:08] hehe [09:08] you need XP? [09:09] customers laptop [09:09] I can access AD and stuff like that [09:09] ahhh [09:09] you work in pc repair? [09:10] whats AD? [09:10] active directory [09:17] Mossyfunk, I used to repair sun microsystems x86 based servers, but after oracle purchased Sun, I havent had any jobs regarding that ;) [09:17] oh wow [09:18] even tho, I have done some Dell certificates and I'm qualified to service dell's, but havent serviced any dell servers [09:18] now days I'm more like a local it support guy ;) [09:18] but I enjoyd that Sun Microsystems service [09:19] it was fun and challenging as long as it lasted, and the guys at finlands office were awesome [09:19] sounds it [09:22] i should really get some certs under my belt [09:22] i'm good with computers [09:25] started a course in IT years ago but had to leave before too much brain leaked out my ears [09:25] <<< :) [09:26] but right now i owe the tech college like $1400 lol [09:26] which i'm not paying [09:26] hmmm [09:27] bloody job network was supposed to pay for the course, i did everything i was supposed to do and they didn't pay [09:27] in my country education is free [09:27] :-) [09:27] even short courses? [09:28] it depends, but yeah [09:28] where are you from? [09:28] finland [09:28] ahh cool [09:29] we get university on a loan scheme... you start paying it off in tax when you earn a certain amount [09:29] if you never earn enough, you never pay [09:29] :D [09:32] how do i make shortcuts to programs on the desktop? [09:32] ahhh [09:33] it's a drag n drop thing [09:33] you can do in terminal "find / |grep .desktop [09:33] and you'll find the files you can drop to desktop [09:34] hard to remember where those files are located [09:34] or you can just cp those to ~/Desktop [09:39] so cp /usr/share/whatever .desktop ~/Desktop? [09:39] I thought lubuntu was supposed to be user friendly [09:39] it is [09:40] look it even allows you to be used if you compleetly crash your graphical interface [09:41] lol sulumar [09:42] ok idiot friendly then [09:42] your lauthing but try that with Windows [09:42] indeed [09:42] i am not THAT new to linux [09:42] nothing beats console with framebuffer ;) [09:43] but i'm setting this up for a low knowledge average windows user [09:43] never got that working bioterror [09:43] than use a dock, its easyer [09:45] thats true [09:45] how do I find out what version of GCC? [09:46] VMWare player is whining about not finding GCC 4.4.5 [09:46] trying to install vmware tools [09:46] ?? [09:47] no just trying to run it in the frst place [09:47] dpkg -l gcc [09:47] No packages found matching gcc. [09:48] weird [09:48] not really [09:48] apt-cache show gcc [09:48] you dont need developement software by default ;) [09:48] gcc being te C compiler its not needed [09:49] debian lenny has gcc 4.3.2 [09:49] well it was working fine on 10.04 [09:49] so lubuntu 10.04 must have had it === Freejack is now known as Freejack` [09:53] dont know, never used 10.04 in lubuntu [09:57] well the application says it wants gcc 4.4.5 and i can install 4.4 or 4.5 [09:57] :) [09:58] which one should I go for? [09:58] 4.4 or 4.5? [09:59] I would go for the 4.5 [10:00] ok =)\ [10:04] If i install a package, and it installs dependencies.... how do I getb synaptic to remove those dependencies along with the package? I tried marking the package for complete removal but only that one was selected [10:04] hmmm [10:04] if those packages arent needed anymore, sudo apt-get autoremove [10:04] should get rid of them [10:05] well that would do the trick..... but assume i'm the owner of this laptop and i do things in the gui [10:06] well [10:06] !lxterminal [10:06] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [10:06] VERY POWERFUL! [10:06] from the wiki Lubuntu is targeted at "normal" PC users running on low-spec hardware. Such users may not know how to use command line tools, and in most cases they just don't have enough resources for all the bells and whistles of the "full-featured" mainstream distributions." [10:07] yes "I" know how to use the CLI [10:07] somehow I dont see lubuntu as a noobie distro :-) [10:07] then the wiki is BS [10:08] well, the tools are still new, you know [10:08] beause EVERY piece of literature on this distro and there aint much says lightweight and user friendly [10:08] true [10:08] gah maybe XFCE would be better [10:09] but I do like LXDE [10:09] :-) [10:09] very clean and fast [10:09] lubuntu looks so sleek [10:09] but thats the damn issue..., its not for me lol [10:11] ok well fuck it i'll pun on gnome and be done with it [10:11] but thats really lame [10:11] laters [10:14] should I use less terminal and more GUI tools?-) [10:14] Hello all, i have a problem with x settings. the resolution shown is 1600x1200 although the max and native res of my monitor is 1200x800. xrandr shows all resolutions up to 1600x1200 where only 1200x800 has 60hz beside, others have 0hz. i also cant find xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [10:15] by default there's no xorg.conf [10:15] also the bottom and the right of my screen is missing, because of bigger resolution [10:15] you have to make one by running Xorg -configure [10:15] and then copy that file to /etc/X11/ [10:17] i tried that, but with sudo X -configure /home/daira/xorg.conf.new and i got blank screen [10:17] after i did sudo Xorg -configure [10:17] hmmm [10:17] it seems that unichrome driver doesnt work [10:17] can i change to vesa somehow_ [10:18] just to check [10:19] it's Xorg -config /path/to/your/config [10:19] -configure makes you a config -file [10:19] oh [10:20] yes I used -config [10:20] i just checked in tty [10:20] okay [10:21] seems like my monitor cant be automatically set up [10:21] how can i do it manually [10:23] with xorg.conf :-) [10:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/512247/ [10:24] this is display from lshw [10:25] what is text program in lubuntu? [10:26] to open xorg.conf.new from terminal [10:26] try nano$ [10:26] nano [10:26] what is one with gui [10:26] so that i can copy my new xorg [10:27] as i cant see my bottom toolbar [10:27] so i dont know what i have :) [10:27] leafpad [10:28] alt+f2 [10:28] then you can trype: gksudo leafpad [10:28] and you have opened leafpad with root permissions [10:28] i found allready thx :) [10:29] here is my newly created xorg, can you please check on that as i have low understanding of X? [10:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/512249/ [10:31] here is my x log [10:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/512250/ [10:31] around 125 line there is something fishy [10:32] thats what you created with configure [10:34] i know, but it doesnt work [10:34] you have a laptop or desktop? [10:34] so the question is how can i manually configure it to use either vesa driver or to put correct parameters to work with my monitor [10:34] laptop [10:35] what kind of laptop? [10:35] fujitsu siemens, dont know much about it because it is not mine [10:35] i can paste you the lshw if it will help [10:35] you can look below it and see a model [10:35] that's what I'm interested [10:35] amilo pro v2055 [10:37] i can see your point now, i googled the model and it turned out with the same problem on forums [10:39] * phillw yawns and stretches... hiyas bioterror :) [10:40] hi [10:40] daira, I'm reading something, just a moment [10:40] * phillw sends bioterror to make his home wiki page. [10:42] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6825844&postcount=19 [10:43] there's a xorg.conf for you and you should also install xserver-xorg-video-openchrom [10:43] ok thank you [10:43] i will try this [10:44] kansasn00b is quite safe to follow the instructions from, one of the good guys on the forums. [10:44] I hate when things go dirty with the Xorg ;) [10:44] * phillw sends a cookie to bioterror, well dug out :D [10:47] tomorrow I will take my Windows 7 training exam-book with me to work and maybe a usb stick [10:49] daira, did it do the trick?-) [10:49] * bioterror is excited [10:49] bioterror, sry i had a phonecall. i will do it right now [10:49] np [10:50] I have to say that the ace of penguins game package in lubuntu reminds me of the 90's [10:50] bioterror: we needed something low on resource usage :) [10:50] phillw, do you like mahjong?-) [10:51] * phillw doesn't play games. [10:51] sure :-) [10:51] I play only when it's dark and no one sees [10:51] (never has the time, with being on 10 channels) [10:52] So, bioterror, would you make a wiki page up? (Or I can make you a template so you can edit it). [10:53] pokes |friTTe| [10:53] xmahjongg and with a xmahjongg --tileset name --layout name --background name etc etc [10:53] it looks good [10:53] wiki, me :o [10:53] I did once in my work maintenance a wike page, it was okay until one guy got editing rights and he ruined it :D [10:54] yeah, a bit about you, such as |friTTe| has set up. [10:54] * phillw is a wiki admin, I can reverse changes :D [10:54] Hello, it didnt work [10:54] hmmm [10:54] i will paste the log now [10:54] is that file named xorg.conf and not xorg.conf.new?-) [10:54] gotta ask [10:55] i did x -config to a xorg file from the net [10:55] from tty [10:55] ahh [10:55] before that i did service lxdm stop [10:56] correct o mundo [10:57] and unichrome was allready installed [10:57] openchrome [10:57] as I have some back ground with real unixes, I sometimes use runlevels. in linux you can use runlevel 3 (init 3) to shutdown X, and get it back on with run level 5 (init 5) [10:57] daira, I expected that [10:58] : ) [10:58] daira, can you please copy that xorg.conf file to /etc/X11 [10:58] and reboot? [10:58] sure [10:58] if it could help [10:58] but one question [10:58] you can always delete it or something like [10:58] or! [10:59] if you have one which is working you can always do /etc/X11/$ cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak [10:59] i have no xorg that is working : ) [10:59] okay [10:59] it's a good thing that we have a fresh intallation, right? [10:59] yes [11:00] if everyting goes wrong, we can always go to back square #1 and reinstall :D [11:00] i can also connect to irc from terminal [11:00] what whas that irc client [11:00] irssi? [11:00] great [11:00] cya [11:00] : ) [11:02] Hello [11:02] it was fast [11:02] It almost works :D [11:02] i have few pixels at the bottom of the screen scrambled [11:02] i will upload screenshot now [11:02] hahaha [11:03] how to printscreen [11:03] here [11:03] here :) [11:03] alt+f2 [11:03] and you can type "scrot screenshot.png" [11:04] without "" [11:04] and it will makde a screenshot.png in your ~/ [11:04] great [11:04] if you dont find one, you have to apt-get install scrot [11:05] http://bayimg.com/JApCkAacn [11:05] it didnt catch the scrambled bottom [11:05] You can hold the Fn key down and press the PrtSc key, that will take a screen shot and put it in your ~home directory. [11:05] also i cant go down with my mouse [11:05] looks fine to me :D [11:05] to scrambled area [11:06] it is around 1.5 siye of toolbar [11:06] size [11:06] but hey, we're almost there! [11:06] sure : ) [11:06] i could take photo but i have no camera : ) [11:06] not even in your phone?-) [11:06] no [11:07] i had no phone until yesterday [11:07] i got one from friend [11:07] just to have it [11:07] : ) [11:07] some old junk [11:07] all margins seems ok, mouse cannot go beyond [11:07] except the bottom one [11:07] I just read that samsung is make a new galaxy model with full qwerty and it's hitting stores for the x-mas [11:08] is making [11:08] !flood [11:08] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:08] i will hardly spend any $$ ever on any phone : ) [11:09] sry phillw, not used to irc : ) [11:10] daira: it's okay, just be aware that the bot may get upset ;) [11:10] if you want to chat and chill out, please use #lubuntu-offtopic [11:11] bioterror, some ideas how to solve this? [11:11] daira, I'm thinking [11:11] :-) [11:12] but you're not alone with your problem [11:13] somethimes this bottom area shows this top (what is it called) area of a window but doubled [11:13] like XChat: daira @ Ubuntu Servers ... of Xchat [11:34] also i have a problem with audio, it hears well from notebook speakers but when i connect the external amp trough lineout port i hear nothing [11:35] actually i cannot say it hears well because the sound is really bad, but i think that it is because of speakers [11:36] I just got a new mug of coffee [11:36] doping my brains out and continuing with your problem [11:36] :-) [11:36] : ) [11:37] i found the problem [11:37] the resoultion is set to 1280x768 [11:37] yes [11:37] :-) [11:37] not to 1200x800 :D [11:37] in the config file?-) [11:37] i went to display settings [11:38] you got it to 1200x800 @60Hz or automatic? [11:38] it is on 1280x768 [11:38] i have no option for 1200x800 [11:38] i should enter that manually i think [11:38] into xorg [11:38] yes [11:38] and I gave the xorg.conf with correct settings with the post 19 [11:39] i am using this xorg right now [11:39] okay [11:39] the one from the link you gave me [11:39] just a moment [11:39] ctrl and + mark [11:39] does it change something? [11:40] no [11:40] Modes "1280x768@60" "1280x720@60" "800x600@60" "1280x800@60" "800x600@56" [11:40] but i have to use shift for + mark [11:41] i can see that also in xorg.conf but i cannot choose it from gui [11:41] "Virtual 1280 768" what is this [11:42] that comes from the amiga times [11:42] virtual desktop size or something like that [11:43] remove those modes and put only 1200x800 [11:43] and restart the X [11:45] should i remove virtual also : ) [11:45] yeah [11:45] leave just 1200x800 [11:45] let's see if that works [11:45] what is shortcut to restart x [11:45] ? [11:46] CTRL ALT BACKSPACE? [11:46] if it works [11:46] I've seen comments that it doesnt work [11:46] try it out [11:46] i will reboot [11:47] just to wait my download to finish [11:47] :D [11:58] there goes nothing ;) [12:01] hey, now it is like before i believe [12:01] 1600x200 [12:01] 1200 [12:02] ? :D [12:02] what is terminal command to check resolution?\ [12:03] xrandr outputs that i am using 1600x1200 @ 0 hz : ) [12:03] what :D [12:03] haha [12:04] *double facepalm* :D [12:04] seems like i should remove more things from xorg than just modes [12:04] can you pastebin? [12:04] I would like to see it [12:04] xorg? [12:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/512306/ [12:07] okay [12:10] there's different kind of resolutions [12:14] ... [12:14] I have no idea about those sync rates [12:23] i remember some website where it calculated syncrates for you [12:25] hey [12:26] hey hey hey! [12:26] back to square #1 [12:26] okay [12:27] http://pastebin.org/166294 try that one [12:28] ok [12:28] "crosses fingers" [12:40] hello [12:40] still 1600 x 1200 [12:41]