[07:43] <alourie> good morning
[08:10] <alourie> ara: good morning
[08:10] <ara> morning alourie
[08:10] <alourie> ara: I have a question if you don't mind
[08:11] <ara> alourie, go ahead
[08:12] <alourie> ara: I've been thinking about the new website, and beyond the bug I already opened on the landing page, I think it needs a bit of reorganizing. How can it be done? I mean, how do I tell the ideas I have?
[08:13] <alourie> opening a bunch of bugs doesn't seem to fit here
[08:13] <ara> alourie, have you seen that I fixed the landing page to show a motto?
[08:13] <alourie> oh?
[08:13] <ara> I fixed that yesterday
[08:14] <alourie> wow, I haven't even noticed :-)
[08:14] <alourie> hold on, I'll refresh the page
[08:17] <ara> alourie, and about the changes, what I am thinking of doing, is to put the content of the wp site as a LP branch, and you can do your changes and propose merges
[08:17] <ara> the wp-theme is already there as a branch, so if you want to make changes to the wp-theme you can branch that and propose your changes
[08:18] <ara> suggestions are great, but it is better if you actually implement them
[08:18] <alourie> ara: if you put it as a branch, I will work on it :-)
[08:19] <ara> alourie, the wp-theme is already as branch
[08:19] <ara> alourie, and the content, I will try to put it today
[08:19] <alourie> ara: that would be great. Btw, will it include the layout as well?
[08:20] <ara> alourie, the layout is the theme, and that's already in LP
[08:20] <ara> lp:~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/wp-theme
[08:22] <alourie> ara: ah, that's great
[08:27] <ara> good morning jibel
[08:27] <jibel> Good morning ara!
[08:33] <alourie> ara: I'd have to install wordpress to test changes, right?
[08:33] <ara> alourie, indeed
[08:34] <alourie> ara: cool, thanks
[08:41] <ara> jibel, can you check my comment at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/651250/comments/2
[08:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 651250 in ubuntu-qa-website "qa.u.c home page is missing title, description and favicon (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress]
[08:41] <ara> please
[08:48] <sulumar> Good morning
[08:48] <ara> morning sulumar
[08:48] <jibel> ara, I agree with the keyword meta tag, it's pretty useless for google.
[08:48] <jibel> Hi sulumar
[08:48] <jibel> but the description is used by the search result snippets
[08:49] <ara> jibel, OK, I will add the description, then
[08:50] <jibel> ara, great! many thanks.
[08:50] <ara> jibel, now I have changed the landing page a bit and placed a "fixed post" stating what Ubuntu QA is
[08:52] <jibel> that's better. it makes the site look less like a planet.
[08:53] <jibel> you dropped the menu on the right panel ?
[08:53] <ara> jibel, yes I did, I felt it was a bit redundant
[08:53] <ara> we have the menu on the top, anyway
[08:53] <ara> jibel, do you want it back?
[08:54]  * jibel is navigating to see if it makes sense to add it back
[08:59] <jibel> what's annoying is that it never changes while it should change with the context.
[08:59] <ara> jibel, what do you mean?
[09:01] <jibel> the sub-menu always displays the archive of the posts. When I'm on another section than the home page it's a bit confusing.
[09:01] <jibel> but I agree that the previous menu was redundant with the main navigation.
[09:02] <ara> jibel, what would you like to see? a submenu like the one we have at uds.ubuntu.com?
[09:02] <ara> I agree that would be nice to have
[09:02] <ara> wanna implement it?  ;-)
[09:04] <jibel> I don't see any submenu at all on uds.u.c, is it my lack of coffee this morning ? :-)
[09:05] <ara> jibel, it is my lack of coffee! I have seen it somewhere, maybe it wasn't uds.u.c :)
[09:05] <jibel> maybe, the right menu should be displayed only on the home page, and use the whole page for the content in other sections.
[09:05] <ara> wow, the colour at uds.u.c. is way too orange
[09:05] <jibel> yeah, not enough aubergine, indeed
[09:08] <ara> jibel, the page with the submenu is www.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <jibel> ara, that's it. But there's a lot of content on www.u.c, so it makes sense use a submenu. I don't think you can apply the same to qa.u.c because the site map is flat. There is only 1 level.
[09:13] <jibel> ara, my feeling is that we don't need that sub navigation excepted on the aggregation page.
[09:14] <jibel> and you could use the full width for the content like on other *.u.c web sites.
[09:14] <jibel> excepted on the home page of course.
[09:15] <ara> yes, that makes sense
[09:18] <alourie> jibel, ara: I think that the current sidebar should appear only with planet
[09:19] <alourie> and
[09:20] <alourie> ara: should I open bug to remove comments form from the pages?
[09:21] <ara> alourie, you can open a bug, but that's also changeable in the theme, so you can implement the changes
[09:21] <alourie> ara: ah, great
[09:23] <sulumar> jibel, could you give me the links to start SRU pls
[09:24] <sulumar> trashed a vm by accident and lost the history
[09:24] <jibel> sulumar, here it is : http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[09:24] <jibel> sulumar, don't hesitate to ask if you need help.
[09:25] <sulumar> thx
[09:25] <jibel> sulumar, there is one in lucid that I'm failing to reproduce - bug 533369
[09:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 533369 in debootstrap (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 2 other projects) "Fails to debootstrap squeeze chroot due to missing apt-get (affects: 1) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533369
[09:26] <jibel> maybe you'll be luckier than me
[09:27] <ara> alourie, you can open a bug and link the branch your working on with it, then request a merge
[09:29] <sulumar> ill try
[09:29] <jibel> sulumar, the 2 kde bug 656195 and bug 656196 are easy target too.
[09:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656196 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "add new Indian Rupee Unicode symbol (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656196
[09:30] <jibel> The second is trivial while the first needs to recompile kdevelop.
[09:33] <sulumar> ill try to understand and reproduce debootstrap on 10.10 and 10.04 if needed
[09:33] <alourie> ara: can you give me the lp link again for the theme branch?
[09:33] <alourie> I reconnected and lost history
[09:36] <ara>  lp:~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/wp-theme
[09:36] <jibel> sulumar, the problem with deboostrap only exists in lucid when you try to create a debian squeeze chroot with a buildd variant. If you don't know debootstrap too much, you can start with easier tests.
[09:39] <sulumar> in fact i dont know debootsrtap at all but that allows me to learn it
[09:49] <alourie> ara: thansk
[09:49] <jibel> sulumar, you'll find documentation about debootstrap here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[09:50] <sulumar> thx
[10:15] <sulumar> ok ill try something else to start
[10:16] <sulumar> bootstrap is a bit too complicated to learn in paralel with windows
[10:21] <sulumar> think im not good enough to do sru AND a course
[10:33] <jibel> :-)
[10:35] <jibel> sulumar, I proposed bug 657865
[10:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657865 in josm-plugins (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "josm-plugins cannot be installed with maverick version (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657865
[10:36] <jibel> sulumar, the current version in maverick is not installable because of conflicting files between josm and josm-plugins
[10:36] <jibel> sulumar, the version in -proposed fixes that by removing the conflicting files from josm-plugins.
[10:37] <sulumar> ill check that
[10:37] <jibel> sulumar, so with -proposed enabled josm-plugins and josm should be installable together.
[10:44] <sulumar> Josm even pulls josm-plugins
[10:47] <sulumar> with -proposed enable it is fixed$
[10:48] <jibel> that's because josm-plugins is a recommend of josm and recommends are installed by default
[10:49] <sulumar> so with the bug in launchpad i do what now ??
[10:51] <jibel> sulumar, add a comment with the result of the test and set change the tag verification-needed to verification-done
[10:51] <jibel> sulumar, the bug number on the pending sru list will become green when the page is refreshed (every hour)
[10:52] <jibel> sulumar, then the sru manager will publish this version to maverick-updates and every user of maverick will benefit of that fix \o/
[10:53] <jibel> sulumar, I've verified it too, that was not a conflicting file but a version bump in the conflict rule.
[10:54] <sulumar> as long as its fixed
[10:55] <jibel> sulumar, do you have an ipod ?
[10:55] <sulumar> Tagchanged, VM Trashed
[10:55] <sulumar> nope
[10:56] <sulumar> sorry for the ipod, im not that apple
[10:56] <jibel> no problem. There is a bug that requires an ipod.
[10:58]  * jibel picking another report.
[11:03] <jibel> sulumar, do you use empathy ?
[11:04] <sulumar> i do
[11:07] <jibel> there is bug 654981 then. You just need to use it as you usually do and ensure that is still work as expected.
[11:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 654981 in empathy (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "SRU empathy to 2.32.0.1 in maverick (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654981
[11:07] <jibel> bug 615045 in lucid is well documented, and is a good candidate.
[11:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 615045 in man-db (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Running catman makes man display junk data (affects: 1) (heat: 64)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615045
[11:36] <sulumar> using the proposed empathy
[11:36] <sulumar> seems to work
[11:39] <jibel> sulumar, you need to use it for some time. Do you see the same behavior than Martin in comment 2 ?
[11:42] <sulumar> not at all
[11:43] <sulumar> the window is the same as before
[11:43] <sulumar> can move and resize it any way i want
[11:52] <sulumar> and i tested empathy with an ALICE bot to force conversation
[11:52] <sulumar> it seems to work
[13:11] <jibel> sulumar, great! thanks you for confirming. We'll wait a few more days to gather more feedback from other users.
[13:24] <alourie> wow, I have wp with new ubuntu-qa theme! yea!
[15:02] <cr3> bladernr: learn to use the mouse :)
[15:21] <bladernr> cr3:  it's not so much the mouse as it is the MT team's touch driver for the mouse ;-)
[19:55] <ara> QA meeting in 5 minutes at #ubuntu-quality
[19:55] <kamusin> :)
[21:45] <lourie> I think that the topic needs to be updated
[21:45] <lourie> *channel topic