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CruelCokeUbuntu for schools?01:04
CruelCokeMust be xorgless to thwart gaming01:05
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mcseanHas anyone discovered how to minimize, auto-hide, or decrease the icon size within the new launcher in Unity within 10.10 netbook edition?06:32
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alkisgGood morning08:18
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mhall119so, I think identifying all the games/apps that provide some kind of "lesson plan" concept, and working on some documentation on how to use those for teaching, would be a good idea19:03
mhall119also, I definitely want to see Laby included in the ubuntu-edu-* packages19:04
sebsebsebHI19:07
mhall119hi19:07
mhall119highvoltage: what's the state of moodle?19:08
sebsebsebmhall119: hi19:08
mhall119is that something that can be included in the default install?19:08
highvoltagemhall119: debian has made great progress in the last ubuntu release cycle, but unfortunately it wasn't ready in time for maverick19:08
highvoltagemhall119: we'll most likely have it soon in natty after the archives open19:08
mhall119cool19:09
highvoltagemhall119: and quite possibly a backport and at the very least also have it in the Edubuntu stable PPA19:09
mhall119also, there were a couple of public sites collecting moodle courses, depending on licenses maybe we could package some of them up for inclusion or installation19:09
highvoltagemhall119: as for having it in the default install, it would be nice in an edubuntu-server metapackage, we're having a session for that at UDS19:09
mhall119is that the "school server in a box" blueprint that dinda made?19:10
sebsebsebhighvoltage: In South Africa....  in South Africa....  in South Africa,  for the open week  session you just did :D  ,but made me wonder where you were actsually from19:10
sebsebsebhighvoltage: taking a guess19:10
sebsebsebGermany or something19:10
sebsebsebplus you used the euro sign19:10
mhall119he's Canadian now, eh?19:12
highvoltagemhall119: yes19:12
mhall119highvoltage: cool, I'm already subscribed to that one19:12
highvoltagesebsebseb: I'm from South Africa :)19:12
highvoltageliving in Canada at the moment, but I'm not a Canadian :)19:12
sebsebseboh ok19:13
highvoltage(or as stgraber pointed out, I'm in Quebec, which is a differents story alltogether)19:13
stgraber;)19:13
highvoltagemaybe I'll live in Germany next though :)19:13
mhall119oh, so you're French then?19:13
highvoltagemhall119: oui!19:13
mhall119eh?19:13
sebsebsebmhall119: the real French  are from France :D19:14
highvoltagemhall119: no :)19:14
stgraberhe's pretending to be19:14
mhall119Faux French?19:14
highvoltagemhall119: yes, but don't tell the Quebeccers that ;)19:14
mhall119is that like being Dutch?19:14
stgraberhighvoltage: too late, mgariepy is here ;)19:14
sebsebseband ubuntulog :D19:15
highvoltagemhall119: well, my first langauge is Afrikaans, which is much closer to Dutch :)19:15
sebsebsebwho mgariepy ?19:15
mhall119so you're French-Canadian-Dutch-African?19:16
highvoltagesure why not.19:16
stgrabersebsebseb: mgariepy is an actual quebeccer19:17
mgariepyfrench-canadian-wannabe-Dutch-african imo19:17
mgariepyi'm a french canadian.19:17
stgraber(and currently sitting just next to highvoltage and I)19:17
highvoltage:)19:17
mhall119is that (french-canadian-wannabe)-dutch-african, or french-canadian-(wannabe-dutch-african)?19:17
* mhall119 is so confused19:18
mgariepyit's (french-canadian-wannabe)-dutch-african, since he doesn't speak french yet.19:18
highvoltageFrench logic is kind of weirds like that19:18
highvoltagethey write things backwards19:18
stgraber(wannabe-french-canadian)-south-african (or -afrikaans)19:18
mhall119I'm just going to think of you as Asian and be done with it19:18
highvoltageit's not a web site. it's a site web19:18
highvoltagethey do it with everything.19:19
highvoltageand don't get me and stgraber started with taps and doorhandles19:19
stgraber(though, the taps and doorhandles issue seems to be quebec-specific, not french related)19:20
mhall119highvoltage: you want fun, get a Brit and someone from the southern USA to talk about biscuits19:20
mhall119or tea for that matter19:20
sebsebsebmhall119: uh what?19:21
mhall119british biscuits and USA biscuits are totally different things19:21
sebsebsebuhmm USA calls them cookies19:22
highvoltageamerican biscuits is more like rusks, right?19:22
sebsebsebhere now as well sometimes19:22
mhall119no, cookies are sweet pasteries19:22
mhall119with chocolate chips in them19:22
mhall119you eat them with a glass of milk19:22
sebsebsebwell there are both ehre, biscuites and cookies :D19:23
mhall119we have both here too19:23
* highvoltage attempts to get back to work and salvage some productivity from this afternoon19:23
sebsebsebwhats that about tea?19:23
mhall119only what you call biscuites we call crackers19:23
mhall119sebsebseb: tea should be served in a large glass with lots of ice, and milk is in no way involved19:24
sebsebsebtea with ice?19:24
mhall119yes19:24
mhall119sometimes sugar19:24
sebsebsebtea is meant to be hot19:24
mhall119sometimes not19:24
sebsebseband it can have milk or sugar in it19:24
sebsebsebI mean can have no milk at all, or  milk, and sugar can be in it19:24
mhall119hot tea is only consumed when you're sick19:24
sebsebsebtheres also iced tea which is something else19:24
mhall119and I mean really sick, not just feeling a bit sniffly19:25
sebsebsebtea and cofee :)19:25
sebsebsebtea or coffee19:25
sebsebseband loads of differnet types of tea there are as well19:25
mhall119we have iced coffee too, but that's really a yuppie thing19:25
sebsebsebyuppie thing?19:25
mhall119for starbucks customers19:25
mhall119people who drink over-priced coffee because it's trendy19:26
sebsebseboh19:26
mhall119come to UDS, I'll expose you to all of our culinary faults19:27
sebsebsebwell whilst we are on about differences,  Americans are wrong,  British Engish is the correct one :D19:27
sebsebsebmhall119: no I won't be going to UDS19:27
sebsebsebFlorida is all the way over there19:28
sebsebseband going some where else that week anyway19:28
mhall119too bad, I'd have bought you a pickled pig's foot19:28
mhall119if I'd have, I'd even treat you to some homemade BBQ19:28
sebsebsebplus  1.  not a develoepr  2.  don't like Ubuntu that much anymore.  so yeah UDS isn't really for me19:28
sebsebseband yes I know non devs can go as well19:29
mhall119non-Ubuntu people can go too19:29
highvoltage14:24 < mhall119> hot tea is only consumed when you're sick19:29
highvoltagelol19:29
mhall119highvoltage: that's really a matter of taste though, lots of people here still stick with coffee when they're sick19:29
sebsebsebmhall119: well Ubuntu for a bit again for me, but only since I am trying out Unity on my desktop19:29
mhall119I wish Unity ran better on my EeePC 70119:30
mhall119highvoltage: any plans or thoughts on making an Edubuntu Netbook interface for 11.04?19:31
sebsebsebit would be great if it didn't crash when opening applications, well I guess the clean install maybe help, since  I  also installed netbook packages/s  when I shoudn't have realy, so that could be to do with it19:31
sebsebsebplus started with the RC last Saturday and got all the updates,  so yeah,  not done it again with final19:31
sebsebsebjust yet19:31
mhall119something that'll work well on the Intel ClassMates19:31
sebsebsebmhall119: or Edubuntu could use Gnome Shell :)19:31
mhall119I'm not sure how all the Gnome-dependent stuff like Sabayon will work with Shell19:32
sebsebsebremind me what Sabayon is,  other then that Gentoo based distro19:32
mhall119desktop profile editor19:32
sebsebsebI remember this was mentioend in open week before, I guess Edubuntu session19:32
mhall119lets you customize the desktop for different users19:33
mhall119menus, panels, etc19:33
sebsebsebthe forks/patches will be interesting to see Ubuntu develoeprs working to move over to Gnome Shell :D19:33
sebsebsebhowever I am expecting their may be some excuse, to use the old interface with Gnome 3 under the hood19:33
mhall119sebsebseb: yeah, that doesn't sound like a pleasant job19:33
sebsebseband using the old interface won't be good, when basically all the other popular distros are doing shell19:34
sebsebsebmhall119: probably won't have Internet access when I am away, well I might,  but if not,  i'll  find out about UDS stuff when getting back ,one of the first things :D19:35
sebsebsebmhall119: 2011 should be a rather interesting year for Desktop LInux :)19:36
sebsebsebsince Gnome 319:36
sebsebseband also btrfs I guess19:36
mhall119I'm not sure what's going to happen with btrfs, ext4 has gone beyond the stop-gap measure it was originally supposed to be19:37
sebsebsebstop-gap measure?19:37
sebsebsebyeah Ext4 was only meant to be for a bit19:38
sebsebsebanyway Ext4 is pretty good really19:38
sebsebsebso I was going to try out btrfs in this 10.10 install,  thinking I probably woudn't really get any advantage, since not even sure how to use the snapshots.  However since how my partitions are,  I coudn't just make a /boot and the /   in the space I had,  so went with Ext4,  not worth sorting out my partitions, more properly,  at this time, for btfs I guess, since probably woudn't really notice any advantage.  Plus in Ubuntu it woudn't be19:41
sebsebsebproperly stable anyway I guess and all that.19:41
highvoltagemhall119: we ship with unity, it's quite horrible atm though19:42

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