[01:04] Ubuntu for schools? [01:05] Must be xorgless to thwart gaming [01:05] =_= [06:32] Has anyone discovered how to minimize, auto-hide, or decrease the icon size within the new launcher in Unity within 10.10 netbook edition? === jussi01_ is now known as jussi [08:18] Good morning === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg === ludo2 is now known as 13WAAKAHV [19:03] so, I think identifying all the games/apps that provide some kind of "lesson plan" concept, and working on some documentation on how to use those for teaching, would be a good idea [19:04] also, I definitely want to see Laby included in the ubuntu-edu-* packages [19:07] HI [19:07] hi [19:08] highvoltage: what's the state of moodle? [19:08] mhall119: hi [19:08] is that something that can be included in the default install? [19:08] mhall119: debian has made great progress in the last ubuntu release cycle, but unfortunately it wasn't ready in time for maverick [19:08] mhall119: we'll most likely have it soon in natty after the archives open [19:09] cool [19:09] mhall119: and quite possibly a backport and at the very least also have it in the Edubuntu stable PPA [19:09] also, there were a couple of public sites collecting moodle courses, depending on licenses maybe we could package some of them up for inclusion or installation [19:09] mhall119: as for having it in the default install, it would be nice in an edubuntu-server metapackage, we're having a session for that at UDS [19:10] is that the "school server in a box" blueprint that dinda made? [19:10] highvoltage: In South Africa.... in South Africa.... in South Africa, for the open week session you just did :D ,but made me wonder where you were actsually from [19:10] highvoltage: taking a guess [19:10] Germany or something [19:10] plus you used the euro sign [19:12] he's Canadian now, eh? [19:12] mhall119: yes [19:12] highvoltage: cool, I'm already subscribed to that one [19:12] sebsebseb: I'm from South Africa :) [19:12] living in Canada at the moment, but I'm not a Canadian :) [19:13] oh ok [19:13] (or as stgraber pointed out, I'm in Quebec, which is a differents story alltogether) [19:13] ;) [19:13] maybe I'll live in Germany next though :) [19:13] oh, so you're French then? [19:13] mhall119: oui! [19:13] eh? [19:14] mhall119: the real French are from France :D [19:14] mhall119: no :) [19:14] he's pretending to be [19:14] Faux French? [19:14] mhall119: yes, but don't tell the Quebeccers that ;) [19:14] is that like being Dutch? [19:14] highvoltage: too late, mgariepy is here ;) [19:15] and ubuntulog :D [19:15] mhall119: well, my first langauge is Afrikaans, which is much closer to Dutch :) [19:15] who mgariepy ? [19:16] so you're French-Canadian-Dutch-African? [19:16] sure why not. [19:17] sebsebseb: mgariepy is an actual quebeccer [19:17] french-canadian-wannabe-Dutch-african imo [19:17] i'm a french canadian. [19:17] (and currently sitting just next to highvoltage and I) [19:17] :) [19:17] is that (french-canadian-wannabe)-dutch-african, or french-canadian-(wannabe-dutch-african)? [19:18] * mhall119 is so confused [19:18] it's (french-canadian-wannabe)-dutch-african, since he doesn't speak french yet. [19:18] French logic is kind of weirds like that [19:18] they write things backwards [19:18] (wannabe-french-canadian)-south-african (or -afrikaans) [19:18] I'm just going to think of you as Asian and be done with it [19:18] it's not a web site. it's a site web [19:19] they do it with everything. [19:19] and don't get me and stgraber started with taps and doorhandles [19:20] (though, the taps and doorhandles issue seems to be quebec-specific, not french related) [19:20] highvoltage: you want fun, get a Brit and someone from the southern USA to talk about biscuits [19:20] or tea for that matter [19:21] mhall119: uh what? [19:21] british biscuits and USA biscuits are totally different things [19:22] uhmm USA calls them cookies [19:22] american biscuits is more like rusks, right? [19:22] here now as well sometimes [19:22] no, cookies are sweet pasteries [19:22] with chocolate chips in them [19:22] you eat them with a glass of milk [19:23] well there are both ehre, biscuites and cookies :D [19:23] we have both here too [19:23] * highvoltage attempts to get back to work and salvage some productivity from this afternoon [19:23] whats that about tea? [19:23] only what you call biscuites we call crackers [19:24] sebsebseb: tea should be served in a large glass with lots of ice, and milk is in no way involved [19:24] tea with ice? [19:24] yes [19:24] sometimes sugar [19:24] tea is meant to be hot [19:24] sometimes not [19:24] and it can have milk or sugar in it [19:24] I mean can have no milk at all, or milk, and sugar can be in it [19:24] hot tea is only consumed when you're sick [19:24] theres also iced tea which is something else [19:25] and I mean really sick, not just feeling a bit sniffly [19:25] tea and cofee :) [19:25] tea or coffee [19:25] and loads of differnet types of tea there are as well [19:25] we have iced coffee too, but that's really a yuppie thing [19:25] yuppie thing? [19:25] for starbucks customers [19:26] people who drink over-priced coffee because it's trendy [19:26] oh [19:27] come to UDS, I'll expose you to all of our culinary faults [19:27] well whilst we are on about differences, Americans are wrong, British Engish is the correct one :D [19:27] mhall119: no I won't be going to UDS [19:28] Florida is all the way over there [19:28] and going some where else that week anyway [19:28] too bad, I'd have bought you a pickled pig's foot [19:28] if I'd have, I'd even treat you to some homemade BBQ [19:28] plus 1. not a develoepr 2. don't like Ubuntu that much anymore. so yeah UDS isn't really for me [19:29] and yes I know non devs can go as well [19:29] non-Ubuntu people can go too [19:29] 14:24 < mhall119> hot tea is only consumed when you're sick [19:29] lol [19:29] highvoltage: that's really a matter of taste though, lots of people here still stick with coffee when they're sick [19:29] mhall119: well Ubuntu for a bit again for me, but only since I am trying out Unity on my desktop [19:30] I wish Unity ran better on my EeePC 701 [19:31] highvoltage: any plans or thoughts on making an Edubuntu Netbook interface for 11.04? [19:31] it would be great if it didn't crash when opening applications, well I guess the clean install maybe help, since I also installed netbook packages/s when I shoudn't have realy, so that could be to do with it [19:31] plus started with the RC last Saturday and got all the updates, so yeah, not done it again with final [19:31] just yet [19:31] something that'll work well on the Intel ClassMates [19:31] mhall119: or Edubuntu could use Gnome Shell :) [19:32] I'm not sure how all the Gnome-dependent stuff like Sabayon will work with Shell [19:32] remind me what Sabayon is, other then that Gentoo based distro [19:32] desktop profile editor [19:32] I remember this was mentioend in open week before, I guess Edubuntu session [19:33] lets you customize the desktop for different users [19:33] menus, panels, etc [19:33] the forks/patches will be interesting to see Ubuntu develoeprs working to move over to Gnome Shell :D [19:33] however I am expecting their may be some excuse, to use the old interface with Gnome 3 under the hood [19:33] sebsebseb: yeah, that doesn't sound like a pleasant job [19:34] and using the old interface won't be good, when basically all the other popular distros are doing shell [19:35] mhall119: probably won't have Internet access when I am away, well I might, but if not, i'll find out about UDS stuff when getting back ,one of the first things :D [19:36] mhall119: 2011 should be a rather interesting year for Desktop LInux :) [19:36] since Gnome 3 [19:36] and also btrfs I guess [19:37] I'm not sure what's going to happen with btrfs, ext4 has gone beyond the stop-gap measure it was originally supposed to be [19:37] stop-gap measure? [19:38] yeah Ext4 was only meant to be for a bit [19:38] anyway Ext4 is pretty good really [19:41] so I was going to try out btrfs in this 10.10 install, thinking I probably woudn't really get any advantage, since not even sure how to use the snapshots. However since how my partitions are, I coudn't just make a /boot and the / in the space I had, so went with Ext4, not worth sorting out my partitions, more properly, at this time, for btfs I guess, since probably woudn't really notice any advantage. Plus in Ubuntu it woudn't be [19:41] properly stable anyway I guess and all that. [19:42] mhall119: we ship with unity, it's quite horrible atm though