[01:04] <CruelCoke> Ubuntu for schools?
[01:05] <CruelCoke> Must be xorgless to thwart gaming
[01:05] <CruelCoke> =_=
[06:32] <mcsean> Has anyone discovered how to minimize, auto-hide, or decrease the icon size within the new launcher in Unity within 10.10 netbook edition?
[08:18] <alkisg> Good morning
[19:03] <mhall119> so, I think identifying all the games/apps that provide some kind of "lesson plan" concept, and working on some documentation on how to use those for teaching, would be a good idea
[19:04] <mhall119> also, I definitely want to see Laby included in the ubuntu-edu-* packages
[19:07] <sebsebseb> HI
[19:07] <mhall119> hi
[19:08] <mhall119> highvoltage: what's the state of moodle?
[19:08] <sebsebseb> mhall119: hi
[19:08] <mhall119> is that something that can be included in the default install?
[19:08] <highvoltage> mhall119: debian has made great progress in the last ubuntu release cycle, but unfortunately it wasn't ready in time for maverick
[19:08] <highvoltage> mhall119: we'll most likely have it soon in natty after the archives open
[19:09] <mhall119> cool
[19:09] <highvoltage> mhall119: and quite possibly a backport and at the very least also have it in the Edubuntu stable PPA
[19:09] <mhall119> also, there were a couple of public sites collecting moodle courses, depending on licenses maybe we could package some of them up for inclusion or installation
[19:09] <highvoltage> mhall119: as for having it in the default install, it would be nice in an edubuntu-server metapackage, we're having a session for that at UDS
[19:10] <mhall119> is that the "school server in a box" blueprint that dinda made?
[19:10] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: In South Africa....  in South Africa....  in South Africa,  for the open week  session you just did :D  ,but made me wonder where you were actsually from
[19:10] <sebsebseb> highvoltage: taking a guess
[19:10] <sebsebseb> Germany or something
[19:10] <sebsebseb> plus you used the euro sign
[19:12] <mhall119> he's Canadian now, eh?
[19:12] <highvoltage> mhall119: yes
[19:12] <mhall119> highvoltage: cool, I'm already subscribed to that one
[19:12] <highvoltage> sebsebseb: I'm from South Africa :)
[19:12] <highvoltage> living in Canada at the moment, but I'm not a Canadian :)
[19:13] <sebsebseb> oh ok
[19:13] <highvoltage> (or as stgraber pointed out, I'm in Quebec, which is a differents story alltogether)
[19:13] <stgraber> ;)
[19:13] <highvoltage> maybe I'll live in Germany next though :)
[19:13] <mhall119> oh, so you're French then?
[19:13] <highvoltage> mhall119: oui!
[19:13] <mhall119> eh?
[19:14] <sebsebseb> mhall119: the real French  are from France :D
[19:14] <highvoltage> mhall119: no :)
[19:14] <stgraber> he's pretending to be
[19:14] <mhall119> Faux French?
[19:14] <highvoltage> mhall119: yes, but don't tell the Quebeccers that ;)
[19:14] <mhall119> is that like being Dutch?
[19:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: too late, mgariepy is here ;)
[19:15] <sebsebseb> and ubuntulog :D
[19:15] <highvoltage> mhall119: well, my first langauge is Afrikaans, which is much closer to Dutch :)
[19:15] <sebsebseb> who mgariepy ?
[19:16] <mhall119> so you're French-Canadian-Dutch-African?
[19:16] <highvoltage> sure why not.
[19:17] <stgraber> sebsebseb: mgariepy is an actual quebeccer
[19:17] <mgariepy> french-canadian-wannabe-Dutch-african imo
[19:17] <mgariepy> i'm a french canadian.
[19:17] <stgraber> (and currently sitting just next to highvoltage and I)
[19:17] <highvoltage> :)
[19:17] <mhall119> is that (french-canadian-wannabe)-dutch-african, or french-canadian-(wannabe-dutch-african)?
[19:18]  * mhall119 is so confused
[19:18] <mgariepy> it's (french-canadian-wannabe)-dutch-african, since he doesn't speak french yet.
[19:18] <highvoltage> French logic is kind of weirds like that
[19:18] <highvoltage> they write things backwards
[19:18] <stgraber> (wannabe-french-canadian)-south-african (or -afrikaans)
[19:18] <mhall119> I'm just going to think of you as Asian and be done with it
[19:18] <highvoltage> it's not a web site. it's a site web
[19:19] <highvoltage> they do it with everything.
[19:19] <highvoltage> and don't get me and stgraber started with taps and doorhandles
[19:20] <stgraber> (though, the taps and doorhandles issue seems to be quebec-specific, not french related)
[19:20] <mhall119> highvoltage: you want fun, get a Brit and someone from the southern USA to talk about biscuits
[19:20] <mhall119> or tea for that matter
[19:21] <sebsebseb> mhall119: uh what?
[19:21] <mhall119> british biscuits and USA biscuits are totally different things
[19:22] <sebsebseb> uhmm USA calls them cookies
[19:22] <highvoltage> american biscuits is more like rusks, right?
[19:22] <sebsebseb> here now as well sometimes
[19:22] <mhall119> no, cookies are sweet pasteries
[19:22] <mhall119> with chocolate chips in them
[19:22] <mhall119> you eat them with a glass of milk
[19:23] <sebsebseb> well there are both ehre, biscuites and cookies :D
[19:23] <mhall119> we have both here too
[19:23]  * highvoltage attempts to get back to work and salvage some productivity from this afternoon
[19:23] <sebsebseb> whats that about tea?
[19:23] <mhall119> only what you call biscuites we call crackers
[19:24] <mhall119> sebsebseb: tea should be served in a large glass with lots of ice, and milk is in no way involved
[19:24] <sebsebseb> tea with ice?
[19:24] <mhall119> yes
[19:24] <mhall119> sometimes sugar
[19:24] <sebsebseb> tea is meant to be hot
[19:24] <mhall119> sometimes not
[19:24] <sebsebseb> and it can have milk or sugar in it
[19:24] <sebsebseb> I mean can have no milk at all, or  milk, and sugar can be in it
[19:24] <mhall119> hot tea is only consumed when you're sick
[19:24] <sebsebseb> theres also iced tea which is something else
[19:25] <mhall119> and I mean really sick, not just feeling a bit sniffly
[19:25] <sebsebseb> tea and cofee :)
[19:25] <sebsebseb> tea or coffee
[19:25] <sebsebseb> and loads of differnet types of tea there are as well
[19:25] <mhall119> we have iced coffee too, but that's really a yuppie thing
[19:25] <sebsebseb> yuppie thing?
[19:25] <mhall119> for starbucks customers
[19:26] <mhall119> people who drink over-priced coffee because it's trendy
[19:26] <sebsebseb> oh
[19:27] <mhall119> come to UDS, I'll expose you to all of our culinary faults
[19:27] <sebsebseb> well whilst we are on about differences,  Americans are wrong,  British Engish is the correct one :D
[19:27] <sebsebseb> mhall119: no I won't be going to UDS
[19:28] <sebsebseb> Florida is all the way over there
[19:28] <sebsebseb> and going some where else that week anyway
[19:28] <mhall119> too bad, I'd have bought you a pickled pig's foot
[19:28] <mhall119> if I'd have, I'd even treat you to some homemade BBQ
[19:28] <sebsebseb> plus  1.  not a develoepr  2.  don't like Ubuntu that much anymore.  so yeah UDS isn't really for me
[19:29] <sebsebseb> and yes I know non devs can go as well
[19:29] <mhall119> non-Ubuntu people can go too
[19:29] <highvoltage> 14:24 < mhall119> hot tea is only consumed when you're sick
[19:29] <highvoltage> lol
[19:29] <mhall119> highvoltage: that's really a matter of taste though, lots of people here still stick with coffee when they're sick
[19:29] <sebsebseb> mhall119: well Ubuntu for a bit again for me, but only since I am trying out Unity on my desktop
[19:30] <mhall119> I wish Unity ran better on my EeePC 701
[19:31] <mhall119> highvoltage: any plans or thoughts on making an Edubuntu Netbook interface for 11.04?
[19:31] <sebsebseb> it would be great if it didn't crash when opening applications, well I guess the clean install maybe help, since  I  also installed netbook packages/s  when I shoudn't have realy, so that could be to do with it
[19:31] <sebsebseb> plus started with the RC last Saturday and got all the updates,  so yeah,  not done it again with final
[19:31] <sebsebseb> just yet
[19:31] <mhall119> something that'll work well on the Intel ClassMates
[19:31] <sebsebseb> mhall119: or Edubuntu could use Gnome Shell :)
[19:32] <mhall119> I'm not sure how all the Gnome-dependent stuff like Sabayon will work with Shell
[19:32] <sebsebseb> remind me what Sabayon is,  other then that Gentoo based distro
[19:32] <mhall119> desktop profile editor
[19:32] <sebsebseb> I remember this was mentioend in open week before, I guess Edubuntu session
[19:33] <mhall119> lets you customize the desktop for different users
[19:33] <mhall119> menus, panels, etc
[19:33] <sebsebseb> the forks/patches will be interesting to see Ubuntu develoeprs working to move over to Gnome Shell :D
[19:33] <sebsebseb> however I am expecting their may be some excuse, to use the old interface with Gnome 3 under the hood
[19:33] <mhall119> sebsebseb: yeah, that doesn't sound like a pleasant job
[19:34] <sebsebseb> and using the old interface won't be good, when basically all the other popular distros are doing shell
[19:35] <sebsebseb> mhall119: probably won't have Internet access when I am away, well I might,  but if not,  i'll  find out about UDS stuff when getting back ,one of the first things :D
[19:36] <sebsebseb> mhall119: 2011 should be a rather interesting year for Desktop LInux :)
[19:36] <sebsebseb> since Gnome 3
[19:36] <sebsebseb> and also btrfs I guess
[19:37] <mhall119> I'm not sure what's going to happen with btrfs, ext4 has gone beyond the stop-gap measure it was originally supposed to be
[19:37] <sebsebseb> stop-gap measure?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> yeah Ext4 was only meant to be for a bit
[19:38] <sebsebseb> anyway Ext4 is pretty good really
[19:41] <sebsebseb> so I was going to try out btrfs in this 10.10 install,  thinking I probably woudn't really get any advantage, since not even sure how to use the snapshots.  However since how my partitions are,  I coudn't just make a /boot and the /   in the space I had,  so went with Ext4,  not worth sorting out my partitions, more properly,  at this time, for btfs I guess, since probably woudn't really notice any advantage.  Plus in Ubuntu it woudn't be
[19:41] <sebsebseb> properly stable anyway I guess and all that.
[19:42] <highvoltage> mhall119: we ship with unity, it's quite horrible atm though