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JontheEchidnawhen we put them all together, the 'b' segment board had a short in it somewhere :(00:00
JontheEchidnaso we had to disconnect 'b' so that we could test the board, since it was 10 minutes before we had to leave00:01
JontheEchidnamy partner and I got 'e' done in 45 minutes, though. Everybody was done with their segments after about an hour and a half, and then we spent the other hour and a half trying to put it all together00:02
Lex79poor b :)00:02
JontheEchidnawe went through the whole truth table with our board, and it worked perfectly :)00:07
JontheEchidnasweet: http://identi.ca/notice/5579682200:08
valoriezcool00:14
valoriezI just ordered a netbook from zareason with kubuntu 10.1000:14
valoriezto take with me to uds00:14
valoriez:-)00:14
JontheEchidnathey sure picked that up fast00:14
JontheEchidnathough I suppose they've had 6 months to integrate it, really :P00:14
valoriezthis lappy is just too big for that 00:15
JontheEchidnawell, minus the time taken for pushing the release forward to 10.10.10 ;)00:15
dasKreechhi jjesse02:44
jjessehello dasKreech02:49
dasKreechhow are you jjesse?02:52
jjessefrustrated w/ work but good02:53
jjesseand pissed i left my power cord at the client02:54
dasKreechoh. How far are they?02:55
jjessedepends on atlanta traffic :)02:56
jjessegoogle maps says 10 minutes but its more like an hour02:56
dasKreechOh atlanta :) my brother just moved there02:57
jjesseyeah?02:57
dasKreechHmm I guess you might know. is there another Ubuntu official book planned?02:57
jjessemaybe02:57
jjessehaven't heard02:57
dasKreechhow often do (did?) they have them?02:58
jjesseevery 2 releases02:58
jjesseor so02:58
dasKreechseems like a while since I heard about them02:58
jjesselast book covered 10.0402:58
dasKreechah must have missed it02:59
dasKreechI was really busy for that release02:59
jjesse-netbookand left the powersupply for my netbook at home03:08
jjesse-netbookboo03:08
nigelblol03:09
dasKreech:-)03:09
jjesse-netbookbatting 100000% today03:13
valoriezI'm going to apply for kubuntu membership -- if any of y'all want to add a testimonial, my wiki page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ValorieZimmerman04:27
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Quintasanoh woe09:09
QuintasanWhy did we decide to use pulse audio?09:09
* Quintasan is not upgrading09:09
valoriezeverything is working for me!09:13
valoriezhave you had bad luck with PA before, Quintasan?09:14
jussiQuintasan: its evil for me, I just remove it every time...09:15
zarvoxYeah, I find pulseaudio awesome.  Moving streams between devices on the fly, low power usage...there's lots of things that Pulseaudio makes wonderful09:15
jussiI can never get pulse to work with skype09:15
valoriezjussi, are your difficulties over though?09:15
jussivaloriez: which difficaulties?09:16
valoriezyoutube09:16
zarvoxjussi: have you tried the 2.1.0.81 beta?09:16
jussivaloriez: yes, I re installed09:16
jussizarvox: skype beta? 09:16
jussiI got the latest skype beta from skype site.09:16
valoriezthe rc was sucking for me, but final is GREAT09:16
valoriezonce I fixed grub09:17
valoriezthat bit sucked09:17
valoriezhard09:17
jussipretty much all is now working, including fglrx, I only dont have desktop effects09:17
zarvoxjussi: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-static09:17
zarvoxjussi: works perfectly for me :/09:17
valoriezI haven't tried skype for a long time09:17
jussizarvox: I have the latest one from skype, yes09:17
jussizarvox: different hardware I guess09:17
valoriezusually my camera works, but mic doesn't09:17
zarvoxvaloriez: does it not capture anything, or is it pulling audio from the wrong device?09:18
jussivaloriez: at least you can wave :P09:18
valoriezunknown09:18
valoriezI guess I should try again09:18
zarvoxvaloriez: pavucontrol will let you see which device which app is capturing from09:19
valoriezI keep wondering if maybe they forgot to install a mic09:19
valoriezsince I've never gotten it to work at all09:19
debfxthe UDD is awesome10:39
debfxI adapted the merges script to only list kde related packages10:39
debfxhttp://alioth.debian.org/~debfx-guest/kubuntu-merges.htm and http://alioth.debian.org/~debfx-guest/kubuntu-merges-exp.htm10:39
RiddellUDD?10:42
Riddellthat's a suspiciously short list, we have far more merges than that to do10:42
debfxultimate debian database10:42
Riddellthat's only listing packages where debian version > ubuntu version10:43
Riddellbut we want to merge everything10:43
persiaWith the squeeze freeze on, the merge list is likely to be quiet now, and explode later.10:43
persiahttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html is yet another list10:44
debfxI don't think it's possible to parse the last common version from udd10:49
debfxthat would require parsing debian/changelog10:50
Riddellnow this list is a bit longer :) https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html10:53
debfxbut it also doesn't list packages where debian version > base version10:55
ari-tczewgood job debfx11:01
Riddell"Valorie Zimmerman  has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel."  /me puts a developers hat onto valorie :)11:05
valoriezlol11:05
valoriezI'm trying to get effing doodle to load11:05
valoriezso I can schedule a meeting11:06
valoriezI do have a Kubuntu hat!11:06
Riddellmeeting will be tricky, I'm away next week and then it's UDS11:06
Riddellwe can always have a meeting at UDS11:07
valoriezok11:07
valoriezthere will be a quorum?11:07
valoriezor I can just send email11:07
valorieznow that 10.10 is working for me, I'm here again....11:07
valoriezmy wiki page should be ready by tomorrow11:08
valoriezhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/ValorieZimmerman11:11
valoriezjust about there11:11
Riddellkeep going with the doodle anyway, maybe we can do it tomorrow or next Friday11:14
valoriezI'm around both days11:14
valoriezI'll try in konq11:15
valoriezff just takes 15 mins to tell me it can't load the damn page11:15
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valoriezgood night!11:34
CIA-116[muon] jmthomas * 1185866 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp The ommission of a single '!' had the notifier not notifying when security updates were present :/13:28
shadeslayerhmm .. SRU's ...13:39
debfxthe merges table is getting interactive: http://alioth.debian.org/~debfx-guest/ubuntu-merges.htm?filter=kubuntu13:43
Riddellshadeslayer: testing needed if you're wanting to help13:43
shadeslayerRiddell: sure .. but right now i have to SRU plasma-widget-yawp13:43
shadeslayerapparently its not working with 4.5.113:43
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/L4noV <- nice, i only get the IC's directly and we plug them in to power our 7-Segment displays13:45
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yeah, we used the IC last week (a 7447, iirc)13:46
alchoqok is still in "dependency wait" for lucid13:46
JontheEchidnabut this week we got to built it13:46
shadeslayeral: uh where?13:46
alhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choqok/0.9.85-0ubuntu2~lucid1/+build/199485713:46
shadeslayeroh boi13:47
shadeslayerRiddell: ^ please rebuild13:47
aloh, i thought that would happen automagically13:47
shadeslayeral: lp is not that intelligent13:47
Riddellit should do, let me check if qoauth is available on lucid13:48
althat was none of the adjectives i associated with lp before either13:48
shadeslayerRiddell: it is : https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qoauth/1.0-2ubuntu4~lucid113:48
JontheEchidnaoo, is natty open?13:48
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: toolchain uploads only13:49
alyea, i can see qoauth in lucid-proposed on the mirror i use: libqoauth1 | 1.0-2ubuntu4~lucid1 | http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-proposed/universe Packages13:50
Riddellchoqok building now on lucid13:51
alMissing build dependencies: libqoauth-dev13:53
shadeslayerugh13:53
shadeslayerRiddell: maybe qoauth needs moving to main lucid archives first?13:54
Riddellah13:54
Riddellyes it will13:54
* Riddell twiddles some switches13:54
Riddellok moved13:56
Riddellremind me to retry choqok in an hour13:56
shadeslayerright...13:56
shadeslayerdebfx: yawp is completely broken on 4.5.1 right?13:58
debfxshadeslayer: yes13:58
shadeslayerok whole new release then13:58
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alah, choqok is now "Successfully built"14:57
shadeslayeral: great, please test and report on the SRU bug please14:58
shadeslayerbug 65423614:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 654236 in choqok (Ubuntu Lucid) "SRU : Please release choqok 0.9.85 for lucid" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65423614:58
shadeslayeryoull need to paste your install log in the comments14:59
shadeslayerRiddell: bug 66053715:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 660537 in Ubuntu "SRU: Please release plasma-widget-yawp 0.3.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66053715:00
cmaginais the network-manager-openvpn-kde interface missing the key password prompt? it doesn't bring one up and as a result fails to work.  just curious if anyone knows15:03
cmaginafails to work with passworded keys specifically15:03
Riddellshadeslayer: needs a debdiff and a TEST CASE comment15:10
shadeslayerRiddell: debdiff will be HUGE15:10
shadeslayerdiff of packaging perhaps?15:10
Riddellcmagina: the vpn plugins for network manager on KDE aren't well tested I'm afraid15:10
Riddellshadeslayer: debdiff of the whole thing please15:10
shadeslayerok15:11
cmaginaRiddell: yeah, that is what i thought.  found a bug on bugs.kde.org relating back to the kde 3 implementation not including the password prompt from 2007.15:11
cmaginaRiddell: figured that was a bad sign, thanks for the response15:12
shadeslayerRiddell: done15:15
shadeslayerand uh.. why are we tracking it in natty?15:16
Riddellshadeslayer: it will need to be fixed in natty too15:16
shadeslayeroh ok15:16
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shadeslayerapachelogger: \o/ ... http://pastebin.com/UPCJqG35 .... rekonq is now KDE protocol compliant18:53
rdieter_workScottK: thanks for the reference to 104_i915_fragment_shader_disable.patch , is that what essentially disables kwin blur effect (or works-around the fact the it's glacially slow?  or is it just me?)19:11
rdieter_workScottK: nvm, mgraesslin in #kwin said he thinks this should do the trick19:15
shadeslayerits KDE's birthday!19:55
shadeslayerhurrah!19:55
=== shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu 10.10 is out! | what to do for Natty? http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UDSNatty | SRUs http://goo.gl/iDJ6 | Merges! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/NattyMerges | congratulations to debfx | Happy Birthday KDE!!
cmaginawoohoo19:58
shadeslayerRiddell: oh kewl, you moved the banner to be in the middle20:00
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valoriezafter 100% success installing skype last night \o/21:50
valorieztoday chromium totally fails; won't even load21:50
valoriezanyone else had that issue?21:50
tsimpsontry running it from a terminal and look for errors21:51
valoriezI did, but it just wouldn't run21:52
valoriezno errors21:52
valoriezso I'm uninstalling21:52
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apacheloggershadeslayer: if (_url.protocol() == QL1S("http") || _url.protocol() == QL1S("https") || _url.protocol() == QL1S("file"))22:33
apacheloggerid get protocol into a QString or whatever that function returns22:33
apacheloggershadeslayer:  else if(!KProtocolInfo::isKnownProtocol(_url))22:33
apacheloggerthat is redundant22:33
apacheloggerif (bool) else == no matter whether true or false either if or else will be executed ;)22:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: +        KMessageBox::error( Application::instance()->mainWindow(), i18n("rekonq cannot handle this URL, please use a appropriate application to open it"));22:35
apacheloggersee my blog post on i18n semantics22:35
apacheloggeralso that message is next to useless22:36
apachelogger+ it should not hardcode the appname22:36
apachelogger+ most users will have no idea what an URL is22:36
apachelogger+ most users will not know what an appropriate application would be22:36
apachelogger+ without adding the URL the user might not even know what URL the error is talking about to begin with 22:37
apacheloggergood to see that fixed finally 22:38
valoriezhttp://doodle.com/zbbua83cvpd6cgn3 - doodle poll for meeting considering my membership23:01
valoriezjust sent to kubuntu-devel23:01
NightroseRiddell: apachelogger: i'm too tired for a proper testimonial in the wiki and i'll be traveling so not be able to make the meeting but valoriez rocks and has my support for kubuntu membership23:10
valoriez{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to Nightrose23:12
Nightrose:)23:12
valoriezyou are a jet-setter lately!23:12
Nightrose*hugs*23:12
Nightrosehaha yes23:12
Nightroseit's crazy 23:12
valoriezcrazy and wonderful, I hope23:12
valoriez?23:12
Nightrosebut after boston/mountain view in the next two weeks and then dublin in november it should get less crazy again23:13
RiddellNightrose: thanks23:13
Nightroseheh most definitely23:13
valoriezsuper then23:13

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