[00:00] <JontheEchidna> when we put them all together, the 'b' segment board had a short in it somewhere :(
[00:01] <JontheEchidna> so we had to disconnect 'b' so that we could test the board, since it was 10 minutes before we had to leave
[00:02] <JontheEchidna> my partner and I got 'e' done in 45 minutes, though. Everybody was done with their segments after about an hour and a half, and then we spent the other hour and a half trying to put it all together
[00:02] <Lex79> poor b :)
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> we went through the whole truth table with our board, and it worked perfectly :)
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> sweet: http://identi.ca/notice/55796822
[00:14] <valoriez> cool
[00:14] <valoriez> I just ordered a netbook from zareason with kubuntu 10.10
[00:14] <valoriez> to take with me to uds
[00:14] <valoriez> :-)
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> they sure picked that up fast
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> though I suppose they've had 6 months to integrate it, really :P
[00:15] <valoriez> this lappy is just too big for that 
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> well, minus the time taken for pushing the release forward to 10.10.10 ;)
[02:44] <dasKreech> hi jjesse
[02:49] <jjesse> hello dasKreech
[02:52] <dasKreech> how are you jjesse?
[02:53] <jjesse> frustrated w/ work but good
[02:54] <jjesse> and pissed i left my power cord at the client
[02:55] <dasKreech> oh. How far are they?
[02:56] <jjesse> depends on atlanta traffic :)
[02:56] <jjesse> google maps says 10 minutes but its more like an hour
[02:57] <dasKreech> Oh atlanta :) my brother just moved there
[02:57] <jjesse> yeah?
[02:57] <dasKreech> Hmm I guess you might know. is there another Ubuntu official book planned?
[02:57] <jjesse> maybe
[02:57] <jjesse> haven't heard
[02:58] <dasKreech> how often do (did?) they have them?
[02:58] <jjesse> every 2 releases
[02:58] <jjesse> or so
[02:58] <dasKreech> seems like a while since I heard about them
[02:58] <jjesse> last book covered 10.04
[02:59] <dasKreech> ah must have missed it
[02:59] <dasKreech> I was really busy for that release
[03:08] <jjesse-netbook> and left the powersupply for my netbook at home
[03:08] <jjesse-netbook> boo
[03:09] <nigelb> lol
[03:09] <dasKreech> :-)
[03:13] <jjesse-netbook> batting 100000% today
[04:27] <valoriez> I'm going to apply for kubuntu membership -- if any of y'all want to add a testimonial, my wiki page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ValorieZimmerman
[09:09] <Quintasan> oh woe
[09:09] <Quintasan> Why did we decide to use pulse audio?
[09:09]  * Quintasan is not upgrading
[09:13] <valoriez> everything is working for me!
[09:14] <valoriez> have you had bad luck with PA before, Quintasan?
[09:15] <jussi> Quintasan: its evil for me, I just remove it every time...
[09:15] <zarvox> Yeah, I find pulseaudio awesome.  Moving streams between devices on the fly, low power usage...there's lots of things that Pulseaudio makes wonderful
[09:15] <jussi> I can never get pulse to work with skype
[09:15] <valoriez> jussi, are your difficulties over though?
[09:16] <jussi> valoriez: which difficaulties?
[09:16] <valoriez> youtube
[09:16] <zarvox> jussi: have you tried the 2.1.0.81 beta?
[09:16] <jussi> valoriez: yes, I re installed
[09:16] <jussi> zarvox: skype beta? 
[09:16] <jussi> I got the latest skype beta from skype site.
[09:16] <valoriez> the rc was sucking for me, but final is GREAT
[09:17] <valoriez> once I fixed grub
[09:17] <valoriez> that bit sucked
[09:17] <valoriez> hard
[09:17] <jussi> pretty much all is now working, including fglrx, I only dont have desktop effects
[09:17] <zarvox> jussi: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-static
[09:17] <zarvox> jussi: works perfectly for me :/
[09:17] <valoriez> I haven't tried skype for a long time
[09:17] <jussi> zarvox: I have the latest one from skype, yes
[09:17] <jussi> zarvox: different hardware I guess
[09:17] <valoriez> usually my camera works, but mic doesn't
[09:18] <zarvox> valoriez: does it not capture anything, or is it pulling audio from the wrong device?
[09:18] <jussi> valoriez: at least you can wave :P
[09:18] <valoriez> unknown
[09:18] <valoriez> I guess I should try again
[09:19] <zarvox> valoriez: pavucontrol will let you see which device which app is capturing from
[09:19] <valoriez> I keep wondering if maybe they forgot to install a mic
[09:19] <valoriez> since I've never gotten it to work at all
[10:39] <debfx> the UDD is awesome
[10:39] <debfx> I adapted the merges script to only list kde related packages
[10:39] <debfx> http://alioth.debian.org/~debfx-guest/kubuntu-merges.htm and http://alioth.debian.org/~debfx-guest/kubuntu-merges-exp.htm
[10:42] <Riddell> UDD?
[10:42] <Riddell> that's a suspiciously short list, we have far more merges than that to do
[10:42] <debfx> ultimate debian database
[10:43] <Riddell> that's only listing packages where debian version > ubuntu version
[10:43] <Riddell> but we want to merge everything
[10:43] <persia> With the squeeze freeze on, the merge list is likely to be quiet now, and explode later.
[10:44] <persia> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html is yet another list
[10:49] <debfx> I don't think it's possible to parse the last common version from udd
[10:50] <debfx> that would require parsing debian/changelog
[10:53] <Riddell> now this list is a bit longer :) https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html
[10:55] <debfx> but it also doesn't list packages where debian version > base version
[11:01] <ari-tczew> good job debfx
[11:05] <Riddell> "Valorie Zimmerman  has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel."  /me puts a developers hat onto valorie :)
[11:05] <valoriez> lol
[11:05] <valoriez> I'm trying to get effing doodle to load
[11:06] <valoriez> so I can schedule a meeting
[11:06] <valoriez> I do have a Kubuntu hat!
[11:06] <Riddell> meeting will be tricky, I'm away next week and then it's UDS
[11:07] <Riddell> we can always have a meeting at UDS
[11:07] <valoriez> ok
[11:07] <valoriez> there will be a quorum?
[11:07] <valoriez> or I can just send email
[11:07] <valoriez> now that 10.10 is working for me, I'm here again....
[11:08] <valoriez> my wiki page should be ready by tomorrow
[11:11] <valoriez> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ValorieZimmerman
[11:11] <valoriez> just about there
[11:14] <Riddell> keep going with the doodle anyway, maybe we can do it tomorrow or next Friday
[11:14] <valoriez> I'm around both days
[11:15] <valoriez> I'll try in konq
[11:15] <valoriez> ff just takes 15 mins to tell me it can't load the damn page
[11:34] <valoriez> good night!
[13:28] <CIA-116> [muon] jmthomas * 1185866 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp The ommission of a single '!' had the notifier not notifying when security updates were present :/
[13:39] <shadeslayer> hmm .. SRU's ...
[13:43] <debfx> the merges table is getting interactive: http://alioth.debian.org/~debfx-guest/ubuntu-merges.htm?filter=kubuntu
[13:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: testing needed if you're wanting to help
[13:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sure .. but right now i have to SRU plasma-widget-yawp
[13:43] <shadeslayer> apparently its not working with 4.5.1
[13:45] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/L4noV <- nice, i only get the IC's directly and we plug them in to power our 7-Segment displays
[13:46] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: yeah, we used the IC last week (a 7447, iirc)
[13:46] <al> choqok is still in "dependency wait" for lucid
[13:46] <JontheEchidna> but this week we got to built it
[13:46] <shadeslayer> al: uh where?
[13:46] <al> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choqok/0.9.85-0ubuntu2~lucid1/+build/1994857
[13:47] <shadeslayer> oh boi
[13:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^ please rebuild
[13:47] <al> oh, i thought that would happen automagically
[13:47] <shadeslayer> al: lp is not that intelligent
[13:48] <Riddell> it should do, let me check if qoauth is available on lucid
[13:48] <al> that was none of the adjectives i associated with lp before either
[13:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it is : https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qoauth/1.0-2ubuntu4~lucid1
[13:48] <JontheEchidna> oo, is natty open?
[13:49] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: toolchain uploads only
[13:50] <al> yea, i can see qoauth in lucid-proposed on the mirror i use: libqoauth1 | 1.0-2ubuntu4~lucid1 | http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-proposed/universe Packages
[13:51] <Riddell> choqok building now on lucid
[13:53] <al> Missing build dependencies: libqoauth-dev
[13:53] <shadeslayer> ugh
[13:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: maybe qoauth needs moving to main lucid archives first?
[13:54] <Riddell> ah
[13:54] <Riddell> yes it will
[13:54]  * Riddell twiddles some switches
[13:56] <Riddell> ok moved
[13:56] <Riddell> remind me to retry choqok in an hour
[13:56] <shadeslayer> right...
[13:58] <shadeslayer> debfx: yawp is completely broken on 4.5.1 right?
[13:58] <debfx> shadeslayer: yes
[13:58] <shadeslayer> ok whole new release then
[14:57] <al> ah, choqok is now "Successfully built"
[14:58] <shadeslayer> al: great, please test and report on the SRU bug please
[14:58] <shadeslayer> bug 654236
[14:59] <shadeslayer> youll need to paste your install log in the comments
[15:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 660537
[15:03] <cmagina> is the network-manager-openvpn-kde interface missing the key password prompt? it doesn't bring one up and as a result fails to work.  just curious if anyone knows
[15:03] <cmagina> fails to work with passworded keys specifically
[15:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: needs a debdiff and a TEST CASE comment
[15:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: debdiff will be HUGE
[15:10] <shadeslayer> diff of packaging perhaps?
[15:10] <Riddell> cmagina: the vpn plugins for network manager on KDE aren't well tested I'm afraid
[15:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: debdiff of the whole thing please
[15:11] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:11] <cmagina> Riddell: yeah, that is what i thought.  found a bug on bugs.kde.org relating back to the kde 3 implementation not including the password prompt from 2007.
[15:12] <cmagina> Riddell: figured that was a bad sign, thanks for the response
[15:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: done
[15:16] <shadeslayer> and uh.. why are we tracking it in natty?
[15:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it will need to be fixed in natty too
[15:16] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[18:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: \o/ ... http://pastebin.com/UPCJqG35 .... rekonq is now KDE protocol compliant
[19:11] <rdieter_work> ScottK: thanks for the reference to 104_i915_fragment_shader_disable.patch , is that what essentially disables kwin blur effect (or works-around the fact the it's glacially slow?  or is it just me?)
[19:15] <rdieter_work> ScottK: nvm, mgraesslin in #kwin said he thinks this should do the trick
[19:55] <shadeslayer> its KDE's birthday!
[19:55] <shadeslayer> hurrah!
[19:58] <cmagina> woohoo
[20:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh kewl, you moved the banner to be in the middle
[21:50] <valoriez> after 100% success installing skype last night \o/
[21:50] <valoriez> today chromium totally fails; won't even load
[21:50] <valoriez> anyone else had that issue?
[21:51] <tsimpson> try running it from a terminal and look for errors
[21:52] <valoriez> I did, but it just wouldn't run
[21:52] <valoriez> no errors
[21:52] <valoriez> so I'm uninstalling
[22:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if (_url.protocol() == QL1S("http") || _url.protocol() == QL1S("https") || _url.protocol() == QL1S("file"))
[22:33] <apachelogger> id get protocol into a QString or whatever that function returns
[22:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer:  else if(!KProtocolInfo::isKnownProtocol(_url))
[22:33] <apachelogger> that is redundant
[22:35] <apachelogger> if (bool) else == no matter whether true or false either if or else will be executed ;)
[22:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: +        KMessageBox::error( Application::instance()->mainWindow(), i18n("rekonq cannot handle this URL, please use a appropriate application to open it"));
[22:35] <apachelogger> see my blog post on i18n semantics
[22:36] <apachelogger> also that message is next to useless
[22:36] <apachelogger> + it should not hardcode the appname
[22:36] <apachelogger> + most users will have no idea what an URL is
[22:36] <apachelogger> + most users will not know what an appropriate application would be
[22:37] <apachelogger> + without adding the URL the user might not even know what URL the error is talking about to begin with 
[22:38] <apachelogger> good to see that fixed finally 
[23:01] <valoriez> http://doodle.com/zbbua83cvpd6cgn3 - doodle poll for meeting considering my membership
[23:01] <valoriez> just sent to kubuntu-devel
[23:10] <Nightrose> Riddell: apachelogger: i'm too tired for a proper testimonial in the wiki and i'll be traveling so not be able to make the meeting but valoriez rocks and has my support for kubuntu membership
[23:12] <valoriez> {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to Nightrose
[23:12] <Nightrose> :)
[23:12] <valoriez> you are a jet-setter lately!
[23:12] <Nightrose> *hugs*
[23:12] <Nightrose> haha yes
[23:12] <Nightrose> it's crazy 
[23:12] <valoriez> crazy and wonderful, I hope
[23:12] <valoriez> ?
[23:13] <Nightrose> but after boston/mountain view in the next two weeks and then dublin in november it should get less crazy again
[23:13] <Riddell> Nightrose: thanks
[23:13] <Nightrose> heh most definitely
[23:13] <valoriez> super then