| nigelb | charlie-tca: ping ping, all set for second session? :) | 14:07 |
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| charlie-tca | heh, sure | 14:07 |
| charlie-tca | I think it went pretty good, myself | 14:07 |
| nigelb | heh | 14:07 |
| nigelb | I was happy to see lots of curiosity | 14:08 |
| charlie-tca | yes, we need that to get people thinking about accessibility | 14:08 |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: so it went well? | 14:09 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, I believe it did | 14:10 |
| Pendulum | sorry I couldn't be there, I was in a car in the middle of a 6 hr drive :( | 14:10 |
| charlie-tca | No problem | 14:10 |
| Pendulum | once I'm a bit more settled back here, I do plan on reading the logs :) | 14:10 |
| charlie-tca | We had a lot of people, and a few questions | 14:10 |
| Pendulum | awesome :) | 14:10 |
| charlie-tca | I mostly used your session from userdays, with a few things of my own thrown in | 14:11 |
| Pendulum | cool | 14:13 |
| Pendulum | and I'm glad my session was useful | 14:13 |
| Pendulum | I may have erm, possible, maybe, definitely, written it on the day ;-) | 14:13 |
| charlie-tca | It is always helpful to have some material to work with. | 14:14 |
| charlie-tca | Today is more difficult. It is the first session I will do as xubuntu project lead | 14:14 |
| Pendulum | *nods* | 14:14 |
| nigelb | charlie-tca: oh, you're xubuntu lead? I didn't know! | 14:16 |
| charlie-tca | heh, just as an interim lead, probably for two years | 14:17 |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: that doesn't sound very interim to me | 14:18 |
| charlie-tca | We have different definitions ? | 14:19 |
| Pendulum | fair enough :) | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | I have to figure out how to get myself approved, since we kind of left that out when we re-organized three years ago | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | We wrote out everything except how to approve the new project lead every two years | 14:21 |
| Pendulum | oh dear | 14:26 |
| charlie-tca | A small mistake? and I was involved in that, too. We did realize it, neither did CC | 14:27 |
| charlie-tca | Rather, did not realize | 14:27 |
| nigelb | heh | 14:30 |
| Pendulum | video on website accessibility: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awldEoQ-aNQ | 14:37 |
| Pendulum | UK-based, but still kinda cool | 14:37 |
| * AlanBell ponders what Pendulum just said | 14:38 | |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: just meaning that everyone in it is British and some of the discussion may only really apply in places in the UK | 14:38 |
| Pendulum | although it's generally decent | 14:39 |
| AlanBell | watching it now | 14:39 |
| * AlanBell <- UK based, but still kinda cool | 14:39 | |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: you're generally cool :P | 14:39 |
| Pendulum | now if only I could convince Flash that she wants to help us ;-) | 14:42 |
| Pendulum | ooh, there's also a video on accessible transport/travel :) | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | that is a really good video | 14:44 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum: you know her? | 14:44 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: yep :) | 14:44 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: she's the small world-story with keybuk and sladen :) | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | Pendulum: did you blog about world accessibility day today? | 14:45 |
| Pendulum | today is world accessibility today? | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | Um, I think so | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | I caught a reference to it yesterday. | 14:46 |
| Pendulum | ah, that seems to be what World Standards Day is | 14:47 |
| Pendulum | I hadn't put together that it was specific to accessibility standards | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | I think it is very confusing for everybody | 14:47 |
| Pendulum | I'd kinda worry that I'd end up ranting | 14:48 |
| charlie-tca | How do you publicize a day that is made confusing? | 14:48 |
| Pendulum | i dunno | 14:48 |
| Pendulum | but, yeah | 14:49 |
| Pendulum | my concern is that I'd end up talking about the fact that Ubuntu/Canonical seem to ignore things like web standards | 14:49 |
| AlanBell | The 41st World Standard Day on Oct. 14, 2010 will be celebrated under the theme: “Standards make the world accessible for all. | 14:49 |
| AlanBell | so there have been 40 previous days we never heard of either | 14:50 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe we did not really care about them? | 14:51 |
| Pendulum | heh | 14:51 |
| Pendulum | I only heard about this because of Flash | 14:52 |
| charlie-tca | I know. I tried not to say that yesterday | 14:53 |
| Pendulum | heh | 14:53 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 14:53 |
| Pendulum | it would be bad of me to do a question in ask sabdfl about "Today is World Standards Day with a focus this year on Accessibility, are there any plans to improve accessibility in Ubuntu and related things such as the website up to accessibility standards?" | 14:55 |
| AlanBell | nope, perfectly good question | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | I think that would be a great question | 14:55 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: ^^ | 14:56 |
| Pendulum | yeah, but I don't want to piss people off | 14:56 |
| nigelb | go for it | 14:56 |
| Pendulum | that's kinda a leading question | 14:56 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum: do it | 14:56 |
| charlie-tca | I will ask it, if you want | 14:56 |
| nigelb | Just do it (TM) | 14:56 |
| Pendulum | and I'm worried it'd reflect badly on me | 14:56 |
| AlanBell | it won't | 14:56 |
| AlanBell | perfectly good question, and one that should be asked by you as a leader of the team | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | +1 | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | Team lead sometimes has to ask the difficult questions | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | And, it is a question all of us would like to know the answer to. It is not like it is a one person desire | 14:58 |
| charlie-tca | or wish or "lets raise some hell" type question | 14:59 |
| AlanBell | I have to go out now to get the kids from school, Pendulum, please ask that question o/ | 15:00 |
| Pendulum | okay, okay :P | 15:00 |
| charlie-tca | I'll be waiting for it. | 15:00 |
| nigelb | ok, it has started | 15:02 |
| Pendulum | question has been asked, we'll see if it gets answered | 15:02 |
| Pendulum | I kinda had to dump the question now because i have to leave soon | 15:03 |
| charlie-tca | That's the only way to get them in anyway. | 15:05 |
| nigelb | that's good news, from mark | 15:11 |
| Pendulum | well, it's kinda required | 15:12 |
| Pendulum | unity doesn't work with Orca | 15:12 |
| charlie-tca | What? it is touchpad, not accessibility | 15:12 |
| nigelb | oh, yuck | 15:12 |
| charlie-tca | It's just more rhetoric | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | "we support it, as long as it doesn't get in the way" | 15:13 |
| Pendulum | webkit problem, i think | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | But if we could get mark pushing it as hard as unity or ayatana, we would have it working | 15:14 |
| * charlie-tca shuts up and hides again | 15:14 | |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: what do you think I'm hoping for? ;-) | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | I know, just frustrated, I guess. | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | they will push touchpad, and if it happens to help with accessibility, it's called "We did IT! everyone can use this, regardless of disablitiy" | 15:21 |
| nigelb | charlie-tca: heh | 15:34 |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: how'd it go? | 17:41 |
| charlie-tca | not bad. Not as good as I hoped, though. | 17:42 |
| charlie-tca | audience doesn't seem to be there, maybe? Or I was not getting their interest this time. | 17:43 |
| nigelb | dang, I stepped out from work -> home just when you started | 18:03 |
| nigelb | need to look at logs | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | I think I was boring today | 18:12 |
| AlanBell | evening | 18:26 |
| AlanBell | so not a spectacular answer from Mark, but not a disaster either | 18:27 |
| dutchie | AlanBell: eh? | 18:28 |
| AlanBell | dutchie: in the openweek session | 18:28 |
| dutchie | yeah, just read back | 18:28 |
| Pendulum | it felt a bit PR-y to me, but was honestly more involved than I expected | 18:28 |
| AlanBell | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/14/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:10 | 18:29 |
| AlanBell | it would be good to get more bugs filed against the website for accessibility | 18:30 |
| AlanBell | not sure there are enough against the new design | 18:30 |
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| AlanBell | rant posted, off to bed now o/ | 23:56 |
| AlanBell | if any web designers turn up, do be nice to them :) | 23:56 |
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