[00:16] <doctormo> Upgrade to Maverick from Lucid: Failed, after reboot all I get is a flashing screen.
[00:33] <akgraner> jono_, when you get a chance I wanted to update you on the Fridge stuff
[00:37] <jcastro> akgraner: did you get the new SE script I sent you?
[00:38] <nhandler> jcastro: Is it the one chosen as an answer on SE?
[00:38] <jcastro> yeah
[00:38] <jcastro> it's mostly a domain fix
[00:38] <akgraner> yeppers
[00:38] <jcastro> \o/
[00:38] <nhandler> jcastro: Yeah, she saw it. I added it to lp:uwn
[00:38] <akgraner> :-) what nhandler said
[00:39] <akgraner> jcastro, it works for me too :-)
[00:39]  * akgraner is loving scripts
[00:39] <jcastro> yeah!
[00:39] <jcastro> I wonder if it would be cooler if we did the flair of the users instead
[00:39] <jcastro> or too noisy
[00:40] <nhandler> jcastro: I setup #ubuntu-stack (and am working on #ubuntu-stackexchange)
[00:40] <jcastro> ON IT
[00:41] <duanedesign> \]
[00:44] <jcastro> cjohnston: are you HoF guy?
[00:45] <nhandler> jcastro: dholbach has done most of that stuff
[00:46] <jcastro> yeah
[00:46] <jcastro> also, I love milo as much as the next guy, but he's been up there like all cycle. :)
[00:47] <jono_> akgraner, can you give me a few mins and then we can have a call
[00:49] <akgraner> jono_, sure whenever - just wanted to keep you in the loop
[00:51] <akgraner> jcastro, I told someone  about you, "He's great ! He's like Nike  - 'Just Do It!'"
[00:52] <akgraner> I like the expression - it's better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission :-)
[00:52] <doctormo> akgraner: Did you know that jcastro is the only person I follow on twitter? true story.
[00:52] <jcastro> hey, you added the last part. :p
[00:52] <akgraner> I know
[00:52] <akgraner> that was all me there
[00:53] <akgraner> that's why there was no quotes on it
[00:53] <akgraner> should have clarified  - sorry
[00:53] <akgraner> doctormo, :-)
[00:54] <jcastro> "hey jorge said I could just do what I want so I reorganized the entire wiki one night ...."
[00:55] <akgraner> hehe
[00:55] <jcastro> "oh I'm sorry did I punch you in the face? You said just do it!"
[00:56] <doctormo> JDI - CoC
[01:04] <doctormo> paultag: Hello there are you up?
[01:25] <jono_> akgraner, quick call?
[01:25] <akgraner> sure
[01:41] <cjohnston> jcastro: still have no code
[01:51] <jcastro> I figured it out
[02:52] <nigelb> morning!
[02:53] <nhandler> Hey nigelb
[02:53] <nigelb> hola nhandler
[03:09] <paultag> doctormo, heyya
[03:09] <paultag> doctormo, what's up my friend
[03:50] <paultag> hey jcastro, have a second?
[03:50] <paultag> jcastro, I need to whine about how much Mutter is getting in my way to someone
[03:51] <nhandler> Let me pull on my shrink hat..."And how does that make you feel?" ;)
[03:51] <nigelb> haha
[03:52] <paultag> It can't run visual effects ( so it's using software rendering and really really slow )
[03:52] <paultag> It bugs out all the time ( if I had a fullscreen'ed app ( F11) and close it, it will break Mutter ( the menus will be slid off screen )
[03:52] <paultag> and I really don't want to use it
[03:53] <nigelb> paultag: sudo apt-get installl kubuntu-netbook
[03:53] <paultag> and I'm a pretty patient guy. It seems cool as a concept, but it's not really fully implemented, I think
[03:55] <paultag> I think I'm going to install the old netbook-launcher from 10.04. That worked great, and honestly works orders of magnitude better
[04:04] <jcastro> re. mutter, I know dude, I know. :(
[04:04] <jcastro> I am in the same boat
[04:05] <paultag> jcastro, it looked so legit when it first got mocked up
[04:05] <paultag> jcastro, what happened, dude?
[04:05] <jcastro> dunno, I haven't talked to an intel guy in a while
[04:05] <jcastro> but don't worry, it's on my todo at UDS
[04:06] <paultag> jcastro, killer, thanks man.
[04:29] <JanC> I think the old netbook-launcher was removed?
[04:29] <JanC> only the 2D netbook launcher still there?
[04:46] <paultag> JanC, if that's the case, I'm so backporting it to my PPA
[04:47] <paultag> There's no way I can stick with Mutter, it's really cutting back my work efficiency
[05:11] <doctormo> Hey everyone, can I get some review of Ubunchu chapter 07? http://divajutta.com/doctormo/ubunchu/ubunchu-07-ltr.pdf
[05:11] <doctormo> It's awesome and is about installfests.
[05:37] <doctormo> No one? jcastro, JanC, pleia2? All in bed?
[05:38] <doctormo> popey or jono_: you guys would like to read manga right?
[05:48]  * doctormo taps the microphone, is this thing on.
[07:43] <dholbach> Good morning! :-)
[07:49] <popey> morning
[07:50] <dholbach> hey popey
[07:56] <nigelb> morning dholbach , popey :)
[07:56] <nigelb> morning dpm
[07:56] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:56] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:57] <dpm> morning dholbach, morning nigelb!
[07:57] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[07:57] <dpm> hey kim0, good morning!
[07:58] <kim0> dpm: morning man :)
[07:58] <nigelb> kim0: heya!
[07:58] <nigelb> kim0: how did the first IRC session feel?
[07:58] <kim0> nigelb: howdy nigel
[07:58] <kim0> it went very smooth actually
[07:58] <kim0> I was thinking I'd finish in 30mins or so
[07:58] <kim0> and I was glad it took me the full hour
[07:59] <kim0> some people attending told me they liked it a lot
[07:59] <kim0> so very cool :)
[07:59] <dholbach> kim0, did you get lots of questions?
[08:00] <kim0> well I guess yeah
[08:00] <kim0> I answered like 8 .. and there was more
[08:00] <dholbach> kim0, nice
[08:00] <dholbach> hola ara!
[08:01] <ara> good morning dholbach, all
[08:01] <nigelb> kim0: that is awesome :)
[08:01] <nigelb> morning ara :)
[08:01] <kim0> hhowdy ara
[08:01] <ara> morning nigelb, kim0 :)
[08:02] <ara> dholbach, 0ºC already!
[08:03] <dholbach> ara, I was out for a run this morning - I noticed :-P
[08:03] <dholbach> ara, now let's go for the next 20 degrees down from 0°C :)
[08:03] <kim0> 37ºC in Cairo
[08:04] <kim0> I need to get into exporting heat business
[08:05] <dpm> morning ara
[08:06] <ara> morning dpm
[08:09] <jussi01_> we had snow tuesday and today
[08:32] <jono_> dholbach, what is the current progress on the stats?
[08:32] <dholbach> jono_, I'm working on it
[09:38] <jono_> I am going to bed
[09:38] <jono_> night all!
[10:04] <dpm> \o/
[10:04] <dpm> everyone's back!
[10:04] <nigelb> aha
[10:05] <nigelb> I wonder which server is down
[10:10] <dpm> hola randa
[10:10] <randa> hi dpm
[10:10] <nigelb> good morning randa :)
[10:11] <dholbach> hola randa
[10:11] <randa> hi dholbach hi nigelb :)
[10:56] <doctormo> Morning all
[10:58] <Pendulum> hiya doctormo
[10:58] <doctormo> Pendulum: Did you see my post last night about Ubunchu 07?
[11:01] <Pendulum> doctormo: that it's almost out?
[11:03] <doctormo> Pendulum: Under review, I need reviewers: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/ubunchu/ubunchu-07-ltr.pdf
[11:03] <nigelb> doctormo: It is awesome :)
[11:03] <nigelb> By the time I could say that, you got depressed and left :p
[11:04] <doctormo> nigelb: No I didn't, I got itching to fix my computer and needed to reboot... which I'm still trying to do.
[11:04] <doctormo> Poor computer.
[11:05] <nigelb> You're still trying to reboot? :p
[11:06] <jussi> ummm, where do we put community blueprints this uds? jcastro's email doesnt mention community as a category... ?
[11:07] <popey> hullo doctormo
[11:07] <popey> 05:38:17 < doctormo> popey or jono_: you guys would like to read manga right?
[11:07] <popey> nope :)
[11:36] <dpm> jussi, I think you can put them in the same categories as others. So if it's Ubuntu community-related, they'd go to ubuntutheproject-community-n-*, but I'd wait for jcastro to wake up and confirm
[11:37] <jussi> dpm: ok, thanks. I just got a bit confuzzled....
[11:50] <doctormo> nigelb: I'm still trying to burn a cd of 10.10 that doesn't fail.
[11:51] <doctormo> popey: Thanks for mentioning me twice on your podcast, much obliged.
[11:54] <doctormo> popey: Besides, you'd have a read of Ubunchu for either a) your podcast b) because it's about installfests or c) for a scooby snack.
[11:56] <popey> doctormo: np :)
[11:56] <nigelb> scooby snack ahaha!
[11:56] <popey> Scooby snacks!
[11:56] <popey> Ruh Roh!
[11:57]  * doctormo gets the box and gets one and gives to popey
[11:57]  * nigelb looks at doctormo with a dad face
[11:57] <nigelb> *sad
[11:58]  * doctormo gives nigelb a scrappy-snack
[11:58] <jussi> !opsnack | doctormo
[11:58] <ubot2> doctormo: Chocolate! And Raisins! And ICE CREAM! ooo! and 60 minutes +m!
[11:58] <nigelb> !botsnack
[11:58] <ubot2> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:58] <nigelb> :)
[11:58] <jussi> !helpersnack
[11:58] <ubot2> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[11:59] <nigelb> !pmthebot | jussi
[11:59] <jussi> :D
[11:59] <ubot2> Factoid 'pmthebot' not found
[11:59] <nigelb> :p
[11:59] <nigelb> dang
[11:59] <jussi> !botabuse | nigelb
[11:59] <ubot2> nigelb: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[11:59] <nigelb> Right !
[11:59] <jussi> I win...
[11:59] <doctormo> jussi: Please add scooby snack to ubot2
[12:00] <jussi> !search scooby
[12:00] <ubot2> Found: scoobysnack-#ubuntuforums, scoobysnacks
[12:00] <jussi> !scoobysnacks
[12:00] <ubot2> I prefer botsnacks, but thanks for the thought.
[12:00] <nigelb> jussi: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play
[12:00] <jussi> doctormo: its there!
[12:00] <jussi> !scoobysnack-#ubuntuforums
[12:00] <ubot2> Yuck!
[12:00] <jussi> heh
[12:00] <nigelb> hahahaha
[12:00] <doctormo> lol
[12:03] <jussi> lol, I just tried to refresh (f5) irc....
[12:03]  * nigelb hugs jussi 
[12:04] <nigelb> jussi: I did that on code earlier today
[12:10] <doctormo> Time to reboot for maverick attempt 6
[12:50] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:51] <nigelb> morning duanedesign
[12:52] <nigelb> glad to see you awake after sunrise
[12:52] <duanedesign> :)
[12:52] <duanedesign> nigelb: yeah trying to keep a little more sane hours
[12:53] <duanedesign> we had an earthquake yesterday
[12:54] <nigelb> whoa
[12:54] <duanedesign> first earthquake i have ever been in.
[12:54] <nigelb> everything all right?
[12:54] <duanedesign> yes, thank you. I thinkit was small as far as earthquakes go, a 5.1
[12:55] <duanedesign> totally weeird because they never happen where i live
[12:55] <duanedesign> err, never happened
[12:55] <nigelb> Ah
[12:56] <nigelb> Isn't it the west coast where its more common?
[12:56]  * nigelb thinks CA
[12:56] <duanedesign> yep
[13:28] <nigelb> JFo: what did you do to distract that little girl into crashing into 2 telephone poles! :p
[13:29] <JFo> I didn't even know it had hapened
[13:29] <nigelb> heh
[13:29] <nigelb> good morning btw
[13:29] <JFo> sounded like my neighbor had slammed his trash can lid
[13:29] <nigelb> lol
[13:29] <JFo> good morning
[13:29] <nigelb> you have fun neighbours
[13:29] <JFo> I slept last night at the proper time! \o/
[13:29] <JFo> I'm so happy
[13:29] <JFo> well, this guy is usually quiet
[13:29] <JFo> so I thought that was odd
[13:30] <doctormo> nigelb: Installation 6 failed
[13:30] <nigelb> doctormo: now you scare me
[13:30] <nigelb> I was plannin on upgrading tonight
[13:30] <doctormo> JFo: Our neighbours delight in frequent carnal sounds. You'd think they had a record.
[13:32] <JFo> heh, when I lived in my last apartment several years ago, there was a couple upstairs that did that every morning
[13:32] <doctormo> nigelb: Do you have nvidia? those evil ahem CoC off: sniveling little toads with about as much sense as a neomode worm, I am put out and offended again by their product's instability and their lack of willingness to propperly enter into the  community on terms that ensure their priducts continued healthy support.
[13:32] <JFo> it was odd to be getting ready for work to a soundtrack like that
[13:33] <nigelb> doctormo: I have worse.  ATI.
[13:33] <nigelb> JFo: heh, I worked nights and there was a hotel next door.
[13:33] <nigelb> We had one night of fun with a couple arguing in their hotel room
[13:33] <doctormo> nigelb: No, ATI have a future, even if their status is grim. nvidia's future is grim even if their status is ok.
[13:33] <AlanBell> JFo: nigelb: if you can't beat them, join them.
[13:33] <JFo> AlanBell, :)
[13:33] <nigelb> AlanBell: HAHA
[13:34] <doctormo> AlanBell: Did you read the Ubunchu 07 link I posted?
[13:35] <Pendulum> doctormo: I did notice one thing in Ubunchu 07 that's incorrect punctuation/format for English
[13:36] <doctormo> That's what I'm looking for
[13:37] <popey> url?
[13:39] <AlanBell> doctormo: yeah, downloaded it, haven't read it yet
[13:43] <akgraner> highvoltage, ping - will you be able to do the Ubuntu in Education session today?
[13:43] <akgraner> jcastro, I need to get offline for a few changing locations - bbiab - not sure about the last session for today dinda is in Hong Kong today and can't do her session
[13:44] <popey> AlanBell: where from?
[13:44] <AlanBell> doctormo: s/Did you set up the PE environment/Did you set up the PXE environment/ I think
[13:44] <AlanBell> http://divajutta.com/doctormo/ubunchu/ubunchu-07-ltr.pdf
[13:46] <AlanBell> and whut?? you can netboot windows 7?
[13:52] <nigelb> akgraner: ah, so I person to hunt down today
[13:52] <nigelb> duanedesign: all good for today's session?
[13:55] <kim0> wow that ubunchu mag is so awesome!
[13:55] <kim0> love the graphics
[13:56]  * dpm lunches after having written the longest e-mail reply in months
[13:56] <kim0> dpm: finger pain huh ;)
[14:01] <highvoltage> akgraner: hmm, I haven't prepared anythin
[14:01] <highvoltage> g
[14:02] <nigelb> highvoltage: you've got close to 5 hours, can you take over? :)
[14:02] <highvoltage> nigelb: so that's at 18:00 UTC right?
[14:03] <duanedesign> nigelb: yep yep, thank you
[14:03] <nigelb> 1700?
[14:03] <nigelb> highvoltage: ^^
[14:03] <nigelb> BST != UTC :D
[14:04] <nigelb> duanedesign: thanks, just checking for less heartbreaks/running around later
[14:05] <highvoltage> that gives me close to 4 hours then :)
[14:05] <nigelb> yeah, I need to learn to add/subtract
[14:05] <highvoltage> nigelb: ok, I can do it, I can't promise fireworks though :)
[14:05] <nigelb> highvoltage: \o/
[14:05] <nigelb> highvoltage: I'm still not sure if dinda will turn up
[14:06] <nigelb> the time zone is bound to be awful, so less likely
[14:08] <highvoltage> yeah it's just after lunch for me so I'll have to keep it to a small lunch :)
[14:08] <nigelb> heh
[14:08] <nigelb> I hope i stay awake till then
[14:21] <doctormo> AlanBell: I don't think you can netboot windows 7, I think it's a plot fantasy.
[14:21] <doctormo> thanks guys.
[14:22] <highvoltage> you can netbook LTSP and connect to a windows 7 session at least
[14:36] <dpm> kim0, rather mental pain :)
[14:41] <jcastro_> akgraner: we doing our skype thing this time?
[14:45] <akgraner> jcastro_, I can't not at my house at the moment :-(
[15:35] <doctormo> highvoltage: You can also image machines using Linux PXE, but it's still one of those heyhoos.
[15:35] <highvoltage> I don't see how that's relevant to me.
[15:36] <highvoltage> (well, I've imaged lots of machines using PXE in the past, but I didn't ask anything about that :) )
[15:37] <nigelb> haha, I love sabdfl's last response :p
[15:37] <doctormo> nigelb: oh in the session?
[15:37] <doctormo> damn
[15:38] <nigelb> doctormo: yep, heh
[15:38] <doctormo> nigelb: I missed it, can you put it in backroom?
[15:38] <nigelb> doctormo: I shall PM
[16:02] <jono> hey all
[16:03] <kim0> o/
[16:03] <nigelb> hey
[16:03] <duanedesign> hello
[16:03] <nigelb> that was one fun session
[16:03]  * duanedesign nods
[16:03] <doctormo> yep nigelb
[16:03] <doctormo> Hey jono,
[16:04] <nigelb> hats off to jorge for dealing with questions
[16:04] <jcastro> ugh
[16:04] <jcastro> that guy
[16:04] <nigelb> heh
[16:04]  * nigelb hugs jcastro 
[16:04] <jcastro> he's one of jono's friends or something
[16:04] <nigelb> oh? /me looks at jono
[16:13] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:13] <jono> jcastro, who is one of my friends?
[16:13] <jcastro> sebsebseb
[16:13] <jcastro> you know, one of your boycottnovell buddies
[16:14] <nigelb> the guy who just bugged jorge for like 1 hour
[16:14] <jcastro> highvoltage: thanks for your help there
[16:14] <nigelb> gah, I should leave and I don't feel like it
[16:15]  * nigelb feels for charlie
[16:15] <highvoltage> nigelb: +1, jcastro did a really good job with those questions!
[16:15] <nigelb> that guy is bugging him
[16:15] <jcastro> isn't there some irc dude who can talk to him
[16:15] <jcastro> oh, I know the perfect man for this
[16:15] <jcastro> jussi: ping.
[16:16] <nigelb> heh, I was just about to ping jussi
[16:16]  * nigelb goes back home, later all!
[16:17] <highvoltage> bye nigelb
[16:17] <doctormo> jcastro: In what kind of a fight, he doesn't seem much of an irc fighter.
[16:27] <jcastro> I just don't get his motivation
[16:34] <jcastro> jono: have you accepted any more bp's?
[16:35] <jcastro> the more you accept before EOD today the less work you'll have next week
[16:36] <dpm> jcastro, don't teach jono managing tricks, he might end up using them against us!
[16:39] <doctormo> dpm: Rememeber the motto: We ARE a herd of cats! If only we believe we can be!
[16:50] <jono> jcastro, sebsebseb is not a buddy :)
[16:52] <Tm_T> hi alll
[16:58] <jcastro> http://blog.canonical.com/?p=446
[16:58] <jcastro> I hope everyone saw mark talking about this this morning
[16:59] <kim0> really cool indeed :)
[17:00] <jono> dpm, wrapping a call, will be a few mins
[17:00] <dpm> jono, no worries, I'm in mumble, just ping me when ready
[17:08] <Technoviking> is there a way to Ubuntu StackExchange?
[17:09] <dholbach> ok, I'm calling it a day
[17:10] <dholbach> have a good one everyone and see you tomorrow
[17:10]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:10] <jono> dpm, ok, wrapped, grabbing headphones and then getting into the call
[17:10]  * jono still jet lagged
[17:10] <jono> no sleep last night again
[17:10] <dpm> jono, ok, just (literally) give me a shout!
[17:10] <jcastro> everyone is having insomnia!
[17:10] <jcastro> dholbach: ^^ one more
[17:12] <dholbach> jcastro, hall-of-no-sleep.ubuntu.com
[17:13] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[17:13] <dholbach> and go to bed!
[17:14] <nisshh> out of the 14 channels i am in, this is the ONLY active one and has been the only active one for the last 3 hours :)
[17:14] <nisshh> that just shows how awesome you all are :)
[17:17] <Technoviking> WTF! users with less than 150 reputation can't create new tags. The tag 'macbookpro' is new. Try using an existing tag instead.
[17:45] <nigelb> jcastro: you want to step in to -backstage for feedback re:bot ?
[17:51] <paultag> jcastro, I'm backporting netbook-launcher as we speak ( ssshhh, don't tell anyone )
[17:52] <paultag> I had an off FTBFS, so who knows if I can actually do it or not
[17:52] <paultag> an odd *
[18:04] <dpm> ok everyone, time to call it a day. See you tomorrow!
[18:29] <jcastro> akgraner: hah, jill at lunch was like "how was your date with amber this morning?"
[18:29] <akgraner> haha
[18:29] <nigelb> lol
[18:29] <akgraner> she must have talked to Pete - he mumbled something similar
[18:30] <jussi> jcastro: pong
[18:31] <nigelb> ok, bed time for real!
[18:31] <nigelb> later all
[18:31] <akgraner> jcastro, you should have only gotten 2 emails from me this morning :-)
[18:31] <akgraner> nigelb, thanks!
[18:32] <jussi> jcastro: is this re: sebsebseb ?:(
[18:32] <jcastro> jussi: yeah what's up with that guy
[18:32] <jussi> jcastro: I dont know, but he has a record... so to speak...
[18:33] <jcastro> yeah I am aware of that
[18:35] <jcastro> jono: can we mumbles later today, it's nothing urgent
[18:38] <jussi> jcastro: can you clarify for me? [13:06:45] <jussi> ummm, where do we put community blueprints this uds? jcastro's email doesnt mention community as a category... ?
[18:38] <jcastro> depends what track it falls under
[18:38] <jcastro> what's the subject?
[18:38] <jussi> I want to put something into what was the community track last uds
[18:38] <jussi> IRC things
[18:38] <jcastro> ubuntutheproject-community-n-blah then
[18:39] <jussi> ok, that helps. thanks!
[18:39] <jcastro> akgraner: O M G.
[18:40] <jcastro> akgraner: how long have we had GOOGLE DOCS for UBUNTU.COM domains?
[18:40] <akgraner> since it's easier for me to build stuff there :-)
[18:40] <jcastro> no I mean, how long has that been available
[18:41] <akgraner> dunno
[18:41] <jcastro> akgraner: is it possible to embed stuff in the wiki? like the calendar and or a spreadsheet?
[18:42] <jcastro> || I || think we should || check it out || don't you? ||
[18:42] <akgraner> hell yes
[18:42] <akgraner> opps I mean yes of course
[18:42] <jcastro> if we could use a real spreadsheet .... whoa
[18:42] <akgraner> nods
[18:42] <jcastro> bless your heart!
[18:42] <AlanBell> technically anything is possible with moin wiki plugins
[18:42] <akgraner> I know you can embed calendars  - but it's ugly
[18:43] <akgraner> and I know you can put html code into a wiki with the right mark up
[18:43] <AlanBell> no, most interesting markup gets stripped out
[18:44] <AlanBell> without a suitable plugin or macro to make sure you are embedding safe stuff
[18:44] <AlanBell> which I can write, but I can't deploy
[18:44]  * jcastro wish we had more time to invest in our tools
[18:45] <jcastro> some days, between the wiki and lp ....
[18:45] <akgraner> I read about a plugin in for moinmoin when I was adding the HTML version of the logs way back when
[18:45] <AlanBell> the wiki is totally fixable
[18:45] <AlanBell> it is not a technical problem
[18:46] <akgraner> is that something different  - remember you said it felt like cheating or something b/c I was using those tags
[18:47] <AlanBell> yes akgraner that was using the HTML plugin, but it only allows certain markup like colours and fonts, it won't let you do javascript or iframes
[18:47] <akgraner> ahh
[18:47] <akgraner> gotcha
[18:47] <AlanBell> for good reason
[18:48] <AlanBell> but what you want is a plugin that doesn't just create arbitary iframes, but one that will embed a specific google doc for example
[18:48] <akgraner> nods
[18:49] <akgraner> I hate creating those table that are long with those || UGH
[18:49] <AlanBell> it is only about 20 lines of python to do that (18 of which are copied from a template)
[18:50] <AlanBell> the big issue for tables and embedding of spreadsheets is that my fluid width changes don't seem to have been accepted
[18:50] <AlanBell> along with the aubergine headings :(
[18:54] <akgraner> I am a spreadsheet junkie
[18:54] <akgraner> love them
[18:55] <JFo> "<akgraner> I am a spreadsheet junkie" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++1
[18:55] <akgraner> JFo, no-one poked the peanut gallery :-P
[18:56] <JFo> no one needed to
[18:56] <akgraner> hehe
[18:56] <JFo> I smell truth from  a mile away :)
[19:30] <sense> good evening
[20:19] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:19] <sense> hello czajkowski!
[20:26] <highvoltage> ıʞsʍoʞɾɐzɔ ɐɥoʃɐ
[20:26] <czajkowski> highvoltage: :D
[20:28] <kim0> wow! how do you do that
[20:28] <sense> Abusing unicode! :P
[20:28] <kim0> indeed :)
[20:28] <highvoltage> oh I just hang upside down while typing
[20:29]  * kim0 ties the rope
[20:29] <AlanBell> ɯʇɥ˙uʍop-ǝpısdn/ʇxǝʇ/ʇɹǝʌuoɔ/oɟuı˙ʇɐɯɹoɟǝʃıɟ˙ʍʍʍ//:dʇʇɥ oʇ ƃuıoƃ ʎɹʇ '0ɯıʞ
[20:29] <kim0> w t h
[20:30]  * Pici turns his monitor upside-down
[20:30] <highvoltage> ɥ ʇ ʍ
[20:32] <kim0> uʍop ǝpısdn ɐɯ ʞooʃ
[20:32] <kim0> how do I actually type in unicode on my keyboard
[20:32] <kim0> wasn't there some way to press ALT and enter numeric keycode or something
[20:33] <sense> Press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+U and then type the numeral code.
[20:33] <sense> then enter
[20:33] <kim0> does that work on gnome-terminal ?
[20:33] <sense> not sure
[20:33] <sense> not in Guake
[20:34] <sense> s/numer code/unicode code
[20:34] <kim0> sense: can u gimme a valid code
[20:34] <highvoltage> on all terminals, it should work if you press ctrl+shift+u
[20:34] <highvoltage> otherwise you're just using a crappy terminal emulator :)
[20:34] <kim0> ģ
[20:34] <highvoltage> (it should work in all graphical applications too)
[20:35] <duanedesign> highvoltage: aha, it does
[20:35] <highvoltage> ✓
[20:35] <sense> 20AC is the code for €
[20:35] <highvoltage> pressing lift-alt + 5 should also give you that on most keyboards
[20:35] <highvoltage> *left-alt
[20:35] <sense> 2014 for —, 2013 for –, 2012 for ‒ and 2011 for ‑
[20:35] <highvoltage> I mean, right-alt :)
[20:36] <highvoltage> ¥£$€
[20:36] <sense> yes
[20:36] <highvoltage> (right-alt+2345)
[20:36] <AlanBell> 20A8 is the new rupee ₹ which *just* made it into maverick
[20:36] <sense> Alt Gr + 5 = €
[20:36] <highvoltage> whoah, I'm not even using the ubuntu font in my terminal and it displays fine here
[20:36] <highvoltage> cool :)
[20:36] <sense> I get Rs in XChat.
[20:37] <highvoltage> tomboy also shows Rs
[20:37] <highvoltage> I'm using the DejaVu Sans Mono Book font in my terminal
[20:37] <highvoltage> so that font seems quite up to date then :)
[20:38] <AlanBell> highvoltage: that is the magic of the font server
[20:38] <AlanBell> it will try very hard to find something it can display, even if it has to use a different font to do so
[20:38] <sense> ₨ is still Rs with the Ubuntu font as well.
[20:39] <AlanBell> yes, it is a new codepoint
[20:40] <AlanBell> which isn't yet in charmap
[20:40] <AlanBell> or actually I think it might be now in the upstream as of Monday when Unicode 6 got released
[20:40] <sense> AlanBell: How come you have it? :)
[20:41] <AlanBell> bug 655357
[20:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 655357 in gucharmap (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Charmap does not know about U+20B9 (Indian Rupee Sign) (affects: 1) (heat: 579)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655357
[20:42] <sense> Ah, another code for ₹
[20:43] <sense> By the way, is it ₹20.50 or 20.50₹ ?
[20:59] <akgraner> I have to change from gmail to something else.  I'm trying to decide between Thunderbird or Evolution - thoughts?
[20:59] <highvoltage> it's weird in canada they say $4 or 4$
[21:01] <sense> akgraner: I've found Thunderbird to be more stable, cleaner and also powerful.
[21:02] <akgraner> sense thanks - I am dreading setting up something new
[21:02] <sense> akgraner: Thunderbird has tabs! :) And you can integrate a calendar into if you want.
[21:02] <akgraner> and I really don't want to have to set them both up... (lazy uh?)
[21:04] <sense> You care about your time. :)
[21:04] <czajkowski> are the logs up or UOW ?
[21:05] <akgraner> czajkowski, nope working on them now
[21:05] <akgraner> should have all of them up soon
[21:05] <czajkowski> akgraner: where is the link anways so I dont bug folks again
[21:05] <czajkowski> I can F5 :)
[21:06] <czajkowski> had a few emails about one of the sessions
[21:06] <akgraner> ahh ok one sec let me grab the link for ya
[21:06] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekMaverick
[21:06] <duanedesign> sense: ₹20.50
[21:06] <akgraner> I'll also link to the table as well
[21:06] <sense> duanedesign: ok
[21:07] <akgraner> woo hoo  now I can tell people - I have a job now :-)
[21:07] <duanedesign> the design proposal for the new rupee symbol is very interesting, IMHO. http://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/events/Indian_Rupee_Symbol.pdf
[21:09] <sense> Unicode symbols are quite interesting when start to become aware of the many language-specific characters that are available. E.g. 'ĳ' is one unicode character used in Dutch words, and we use ' – ' in sentences, where English uses '—'.
[21:09] <akgraner> I'm working for Linux New Media starting Monday - http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/ROSE-Blog-Rikki-s-Open-Source-Exchange/Announcing-our-new-Associate-Web-Editor
[21:10] <duanedesign> akgraner: awesome
[21:10] <duanedesign> congratulations \o/
[21:10] <sense> akgraner: grats!
[21:17] <akgraner> Thanks - I am so excited...
[21:18] <sense> akgraner: The downside of all your experience is now that will never be able to say that you are 'just' a regular housewife with little computer knowledge. You're getting quite experienced with Ubuntu!
[21:18] <Pendulum> sense: we kinda told her she couldn't say that anymore a while ago
[21:18] <akgraner> sense - :-) yep - and I appreciate every single new thing I learn each day
[21:21] <sense> learning new things is great
[21:22] <akgraner> but you know there is something comforting in that 'just'
[21:36] <highvoltage> jono: is this specification name right? and if so, could you approve it for the UDS-n sprint? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-project-edubuntu-n-community
[21:40] <sense> I'm going offline, bye everyone!
[21:51] <Technoviking> akgraner: CONGRATS!!!
[21:53] <popey> congrats akgraner !
[21:59] <akgraner> Technoviking, and popey thanks!
[22:01] <highvoltage> akgraner: whohoo! well done :)
[22:02] <akgraner> highvoltage, thanks
[22:12] <jcastro> <-- END O DAY - askubuntu.com time!
[22:15] <akgraner> askubuntu.com is like crack to jcastro
[22:16] <Pendulum> akgraner: it's not "like cracK" it is jcastro's crack
[22:17] <akgraner> haha
[22:18] <jcastro> pure, refined.
[23:28] <jcastro> JFo: fo fo