[01:27] <IdleOne> Pici: seems shirleytoole is telling people to delete /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:31] <Pici> IdleOne: looks like its not a good idea to delete that file
[01:31] <IdleOne> yup
[01:31] <Pici> the dpkg manpage mentions that a daily backup is made just in case something happens to it
[01:31] <shirleytoole> yoyoyo
[01:32] <IdleOne> shirleytoole: thank you for joining
[01:32] <IdleOne> we have been told you are telling people to do rm /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:32] <IdleOne> may I know why?
[01:33] <shirleytoole> coz you pussies need to get rid of your training wheels and at least be justified in being smug douschebags
[01:33] <IdleOne> I see
[01:33] <IdleOne> ok then, the ban stays
[01:33] <IdleOne> Pici: ^^^
[01:35] <elky> shirleytoole, you should probably read the guidelines.
[01:35] <elky> !guidelines
[01:36] <shirleytoole> tl;dr
[01:38] <shirleytoole> you know what i think "ubuntu" translates to?
[01:38] <shirleytoole> debian for niggers
[01:41] <Seeker`> shirleytoole: please part this channel
[01:41] <shirleytoole> why?
[01:41] <shirleytoole> u mad?
[01:42] <Seeker`> ty
[01:42] <IdleOne> ty
[01:43] <IdleOne> Hello Licuadora
[01:43] <IdleOne> How can I help you?
[01:43] <IdleOne> you will be back
[03:11] <Seeker`> Might be a good idea to keep an eye on ^DEMOSS^ and ROBOG3N3S1S in #u
[03:45]  * h00k notes
[07:35] <maco> the internet is weird
[07:36] <persia> You just noticed this?
[07:36] <maco> qwert has a friend PM'ing me to apologise for him to me for his use of my nick
[07:36] <maco> (yes, i have guard set and a nick password, he was doing maco_motu and various other things)
[07:40] <jussi01_> a "friend" is that a bit like a "brother" ?
[07:40] <maco> dunno
[07:41] <persia> vaguely reminiscient of the bygone days when folks would duel
[07:44] <jussi01_> I was just refering to the usual troll strategy of "my brother got onto the pc and did it"  :D
[07:44] <maco> yeah i know
[07:45] <jussi01_> hi jpds
[07:45] <jussi01_> hi Jordan_U
[07:45] <jussi01_> sorry jpds
[07:45] <maco> "was my brother" "dude, it was EVERYONE's brother"
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Hi, Smail is likely a troll in #ubuntu.
[11:06] <ikonia> have we just had a netsplit or was it my connection
[11:07] <jussi> ikonia: 2 hours back we had one
[11:08] <topyli> i was left on a lonely server without services and my bouncer went nuts
[11:09] <jussi> lol
[11:09] <topyli> invite only channels kept inviting and kicking me :)
[11:19] <ikonia> jussi: I see a disconnect about 10, not sure if thats the split or me
[11:19] <ikonia> (10 my time which is about 1 hour 20 ago)
[11:19] <jussi> [12:00:17] <-- ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) has quit (Max SendQ exceeded)
[11:20] <persia> ikonia, netsplit was around that time.
[11:20] <persia> (9:00 UTC or so)
[11:20] <jussi> persia: I see the split at about 8 utc...
[11:20] <ikonia> jussi: Hmmm, that appears to be my connection, but it's not dropped, odd
[11:21] <persia> jussi, I see break at 8 UTC and rejoins at 9 (and I switched servers inbetween there somewhere).
[12:19] <bazhang> he had me at 'ubuntards'
[12:26] <jrib> bazhang: heh
[14:29] <IdleOne> Hello petabit, anything we can help you with?
[14:59] <topyli> petabit: if you have no issue, please don't idle here
[16:08] <Licuadora> What the hell?
[16:08] <Licuadora> What the hell, is going on here!?
[16:09] <Licuadora> What do you mean I am banned!?
[16:09] <topyli> @login
[16:09] <topyli> @btlogin
[16:09] <ikonia> Licuadora: hang in there, topyli is looking into it
[16:09] <IdleOne> Licuadora: You have been forwarded here because I personally saw you curse in #ubuntu and then part, presumable to avoid being kicked
[16:10] <IdleOne> I saw this happen at least two times
[16:10] <topyli> ah
[16:10] <IdleOne> I just wanted to remind you
[16:10] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[16:10] <Licuadora> No, i cursed because I waited  a LOT and nobody would answe me, so I cursed and left, angry and MAD
[16:10] <IdleOne> and also the !COC
[16:11] <Licuadora> And it only happen once
[16:11] <IdleOne> Licuadora: cursing in any Ubuntu channels is not acceptable
[16:11] <Licuadora> Well, what can I do if all of them are ignoring me?
[16:11] <IdleOne> Sometimes help is not available. Just because a person has a question does not mean the there is someone around with the answer
[16:11] <IdleOne> Licuadora: You be patient :)
[16:12] <Licuadora> I can't be patient if my system could die at any moment
[16:12] <Licuadora> Ubuntu is not that stable, you know that
[16:13] <IdleOne> Licuadora: Ubuntu is extremely stable on my system but that is not the point here. What I want you to understand is that our community is built on respect
[16:14] <topyli> Licuadora: you can't demand support. you can ask your question and hope that someone is able and willing to help you, and has the time to do so
[16:14] <IdleOne> respect means that, nobody is allowed to curse for any reason
[16:14] <topyli> if you want guaranteed and immediate support, you should consider commercial support options
[16:14] <Licuadora> THERE IT IS!
[16:14] <Licuadora> $$$
[16:14] <Licuadora> I knew it
[16:15] <IdleOne> Licuadora: this is not about money. this is about respecting our community and the rules we have chosen to follow
[16:15] <Licuadora> I guess I'll just have to get to the idea of bad tech support because I am poor
[16:15] <topyli> i sure hope you were aware of the fact that people generally are not at your service
[16:16] <Licuadora> What's Ubuntu channel for then?
[16:16] <IdleOne> support
[16:16] <Licuadora> see?
[16:16] <IdleOne> but
[16:16] <IdleOne> that does not mean the support you need is always available
[16:16] <IdleOne> and that also does not mean because you didn't get a answer you can swear at us
[16:18] <Licuadora> Well, can I say the F word...?
[16:18] <IdleOne> Licuadora: IF I decide to remove the ban, will you be able to follow our rules?
[16:18] <IdleOne> NO you can not say the F word or any other bad word
[16:18] <Licuadora> You see, I did not said: F*** You all, I just said F***!
[16:18] <Licuadora> But like saying F**** me!
[16:18] <IdleOne> it is still cursing and we do not want to see it
[16:19] <Licuadora> this is how people react when are desperate forn an ansewr and are being ignored
[16:19] <IdleOne> so NO you can't say FUCK ME or FUCK all by itself.
[16:19] <Licuadora> HEY!
[16:19] <Pici> !ohmy
[16:19] <Licuadora> you sid the F word!
[16:19] <IdleOne> Licuadora: I said it to make a point
[16:20] <Licuadora> What if I wanted to make a point of my feelings?
[16:20] <Licuadora> ¿...?
[16:20] <IdleOne> the point is that even if the swearing is not directed at a person it is still offensive
[16:20] <Licuadora> Ah, ok
[16:20] <topyli> Licuadora: obfuscated swearing is still swearing. in fact i find it doubly offensive because it insults our intelligence
[16:20] <Licuadora> Not your intelegence, your attitude
[16:20] <IdleOne> as you noticed when I used the F word Pici was offended by it and did !ohmy
[16:20] <Licuadora> You could have just said, WAIT
[16:21] <IdleOne> Licuadora: IF I decide to remove the ban, will you be able to follow our rules?
[16:21] <Licuadora> The point is, I changed Windows for Ubuntu and i ....
[16:21] <Licuadora> maybe...
[16:21] <Licuadora> maybe yes
[16:22] <Licuadora> yes
[16:22] <IdleOne> No the point is, you have to follow our channel policies or you can't use our channel.
[16:22] <Licuadora> i get it
[16:22] <IdleOne> Licuadora: I hope you do. because I will not hesitate to ban you again if I have to.
[16:23] <Licuadora> can I use symbols like: %$"x¿*
[16:23] <Licuadora> to express myself¿
[16:23] <IdleOne> Licuadora: no symbols to hide swearing
[16:23] <Licuadora> damn!!
[16:23] <Licuadora> is damn a bad word?
[16:23] <IdleOne> some people think it is
[16:23] <Licuadora> hm
[16:24] <Licuadora> well, maybe an emoticon will do
[16:24] <Licuadora> By the way, why don't you have emoticons in this IRC?
[16:24] <IdleOne> So just to make sure, I will remove the ban and you agree to follow channel policy correct?
[16:24] <Licuadora> YES
[16:24] <topyli> the idea is to be civil and try to not offend anyone. we're not going to provide you a list of acceptable vocabulary
[16:24] <IdleOne> irc doesn't support it
[16:24] <Licuadora> It should
[16:25] <IdleOne> ok the ban has been removed. Please join #ubuntu and enjoy.
[16:25] <Licuadora> That way we can express our feelings without being banned
[16:25] <marienz> hmm?
[16:25] <marienz> you can use emoticons just fine, you just have to type them out :)
[16:25] <Licuadora> Allrigth
[16:25] <Licuadora> >:-(
[16:26] <IdleOne> Licuadora: if there is nothing else please part this channel and have a great day :)
[16:26] <Licuadora> >:-( FINE!
[16:27] <Licuadora> GOOD BYE
[16:27] <IdleOne> good bye
[16:27] <Licuadora> ;)
[16:32] <IdleOne> if irc ever does support the IM style emoticons. I swear I will set my computer on fire.
[16:33] <IdleOne> those moving smiley things are annoying as all.
[16:33] <topyli> you can get a client that supports them. on ubuntu. try pidgin :)
[16:33] <IdleOne> no thanks
[16:33] <IdleOne> :P
[16:34] <IdleOne> I mean if it becomes standard
[16:34] <IdleOne> in all clients :(
[16:34] <jrib> doesn't unicode have emoticons?
[16:35] <IdleOne> I just don't want to see dancing happy faces in my irc
[16:35] <IdleOne> is that to much to ask for?
[16:35] <IdleOne> I think not!
[16:35] <IdleOne> therefor I aren't
[16:42] <jrib> ☺
[19:26] <GPenguin> where is the right place to discuss #ubuntu-de affairs, my channel ban and things like that?
[19:26] <Pici> GPenguin: #ubuntu-irc
[19:26] <GPenguin> thanks
[19:26] <Pici> GPenguin: Or #ubuntu-de-osp
[19:26] <Pici> oops
[19:39] <tonyyarusso> he'll get there eventually :P
[20:09] <Pici> ubottu: forget howdy
[20:10] <Pici> ubottu: forget hey
[20:20]  * Pici tries to figure out whats going on in -irc
[20:20] <topyli> someone's going to be banned there too, that's not smart
[20:21]  * ts2 tried, and failed
[20:22] <charlie-tca> Can't someone quiet GPenguin?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:27] <Tm_T> charlie-tca: if don't get it now, I will give him some hard nudge
[20:39] <Pici> And now they're talking about the conversation in -irc in other channels.
[20:39] <Tm_T> expected
[20:46] <popey> erk, paddy frank, isnt he klined?