[00:27] <persia> ScottL, Indeed.  We'll have to modify a few things in the metapackage source as we modify the seeds.
[00:28] <persia> In the etherpad summary which I'm hoping you are using to flesh things out, the seeds: line in update.cfg is one of the entries.
[01:07] <ScottL> persia, i did save the etherpad summary and i am using it to flesh things out, along with various conversations you and luke have had with me ;)
[01:08] <TheMuso> ScottL: Yes thats right
[01:08] <TheMuso> You will need to update the update.cfg file to switch to natty
[01:08] <persia> OK.  Just wanted to make sure, because that had a couple sections that were directly tracking stuff in the metapackage source :)
[07:05] <abogani> ScottL: Exactly: _vanilla_ based realtime kernel not _ubuntu_ based realtime kernel.
[07:07] <abogani> TheMuso: Very simple question: Is there a way to don't specify distribution release (3rd field in debian/changelog) to let package be distribution agnostic? I would want avoid to copy packages over and over into our PPA only changing distribution version.
[07:08] <TheMuso> abogani: For PPAs, I don't believe that is possible, you could ask in #launchpad to be sure.
[07:08] <abogani> TheMuso: I'm already googled and I have also check Debian manuals but I don;t see nothing useful
[07:08] <TheMuso> There has to be a distro release target for the upload.
[07:08] <abogani> TheMuso: Ok. Thanks Luke.
[07:08] <TheMuso> No problem.
[07:13] <persia> If one hosts them somewhere else (e.g. people.ubuntu.com) and compiles them oneself, one can use non-release strings.
[07:14] <persia> Mind you, keeping indices up-to-date and the like might be tricky.
[07:47] <abogani> ScottL: Could you say me if my last in devel ml email is understandable, please?
[07:47] <abogani> ScottL: Thanks in adance.
[08:09] <jussi01_> abogani: are you going to uds?
[08:15] <abogani> jussi01_: No.
[08:15] <jussi01_> :(
[08:15] <abogani> jussi01_: Why?
[08:17]  * abogani isn't be able to sustain an English conversation.
[08:18] <persia> You do fine in IRC.
[08:20] <jussi> yes, I agree, you do just fine.
[08:22] <abogani> Please guys for one time believe in me
[08:22]  * abogani goes to drink coffe
[08:23] <persia> I don't disbelieve you.  Speech and writing are different in *so* many ways, especially writing on the internet.
[08:23] <persia> I'm just saying you seem close with the writing, so the speech oughtn't be too far away.
[08:42] <abogani> ScottL: Could you say me if my last in devel ml email is understandable, please?
[08:43] <TheMuso> abogani: I'd say he is in bed at this point.
[08:48] <astraljava> yeah, it's 3:50 am where he's at... :D
[08:48] <abogani> Ops :-)
[08:51] <astraljava> abogani: But if you're talking about the advice on working with closed drivers, then I would say it's coherent. :)
[08:52] <abogani> astraljava: Exactly. Thanks.
[10:48] <quadrispro> hi guys! I'm back
[10:49] <persia> hey.  Welcome back.
[10:51] <quadrispro> persia, I have a lot of work to do
[10:51] <persia> Always :)
[10:52] <quadrispro> eh eh, work is never over
[11:14] <astraljava> Hi there Alessio!
[11:16] <quadrispro> hi astraljava 
[11:57] <quadrispro> ScottL, http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/naspro-core.html
[11:58] <quadrispro> ScottL, :) waiting for permafrost and naspro-bridges-bad now
[12:21] <ScottL> hi quadrispro , i hope you had a good vacation and welcome back :)
[12:29] <quadrispro> ScottL, I had great holidays, I really love London
[12:46] <ScottL> :)
[12:46] <ScottL> never been to the UK although I hope to go sometime
[13:17] <quadrispro> ScottL, wah-plugins has been accepted in unstable -> http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/wah-plugins.html
[13:19] <ScottL> awestome, quadrispro!
[13:19] <ScottL> now if debain would just release then i would feel better about being able to get packages into ubuntu ;)
[13:20] <ScottL> but seriously, quadrispro, paultag has been hanging around also and looking to package stuff as well, i pointed in at REVU (tag ubuntustudio)
[13:20] <ScottL> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/tag/ubuntustudio
[13:21] <ScottL> to see if we couldn't get some movement on those packages
[13:21] <ScottL> i am presuming it would be quicker to get them into debian and then we can archive the package in REVU then
[13:22] <persia> Not necessarily quicker: roughly the same process (two developers look at it)
[13:22] <persia> But better long-term.
[13:23] <persia> Actually, with the squeeze freeze, and ftp-masters being intentionally slow about NEW, might be faster to get stuff into Ubuntu, but harder to maintain it that way.
[13:27] <quadrispro> yes, it is so
[13:28] <quadrispro> however, I'll have a look ASAP, now I'm very busy with fixing bugs on my packages to let them enter squeeze
[13:30] <persia> That's more important, really.  Getting squeeze released (and bugfixes in) helps our natty more than other things.
[13:33] <ScottL> :)
[15:35] <abogani> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-audio-update-fall-fashions?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxjournalcom+%28Linux+Journal+-+The+Original+Magazine+of+the+Linux+Community%29&utm_content=Google+International
[15:41] <persia> heh.  We get mentioned for our spring release under the headline "fall fashions" :)
[16:27] <scott-work> abogani: i just read the backscroll (well, irc logs) and saw your question - i second astraljava's comment, your english is perfectly understandable (although some of the technicalities were beyond my understanding at this point)
[16:27]  * scott-work is very ignorant about much of the close drivers
[16:28] <abogani> scott-work: Thanks.
[16:29] <scott-work> abogani: you are welcome :)  i'm glad to help anytime you need it
[22:10] <scott-work> jussi01: pinged Ng today, no answer yet, but i left him the ticket link - https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=15226
[22:10] <scott-work> jussi01: should i back off for a couple of days now ?
[22:19] <persia> ScottL, Might be worth not just asking Ng, but rather asking open-ended questions on #canonical-sysadmin (there are a few of them, of which Ng is one).
[22:19] <persia> But it's important not to ask too much/too often, or they'll just ignore you.
[23:58] <ScottL> persia, i will wait another couple of days and then ask again on #canonical-sysadmin, but not focus on Ng this time