[00:13] <holstein> zth: might be the -lowlatency kernel by default
[00:13] <holstein> uname -a in a terminal will tell you what you got
[00:52] <oss_sos> uhmm so no /dev/dsp under maverick, has someone come up with a workaround?
[04:31] <virtu> hi 4 all
[04:32] <virtu> need some advice
[04:34] <holstein> hey virtu
[04:34] <holstein> what up?
[04:35] <virtu> hi holstein, how are you? I need just some advice about an audio interface: behringer UCA202
[04:35] <virtu> I bought it today...
[04:35] <holstein> cool
[04:35] <holstein> ive heard good think about JACK support
[04:35] <holstein> out of the box AFAIK
[04:35] <virtu> nice... my idea is to listen music with that and record some digital piano pieces that I will play
[04:36] <virtu> I had a small home studio, very amateur, and yesterday I install ubuntu after 5 year away from linux
[04:37] <virtu> then installed ubuntu studio and had a very good suprise with hydrogen =)
[04:38] <holstein> yeah
[04:38] <holstein> 5 years
[04:38] <holstein> everything has come a long way since then
[04:38] <holstein> virtu: check out #opensourcemusicians
[04:39] <holstein> theres a guy with one of those USB cards
[04:39] <holstein> you just need to figure our your routing
[04:39] <holstein> i would probably just disable my internal sound card
[04:39] <holstein> and use that device for everything
[04:39] <holstein> fire up JACk when i you want to record
[04:40] <virtu> holstein, ok... just have to check at my bios if I have the option to disable my internal sound card or if is there any other way into ubuntu to do that
[04:41] <holstein> sure
[04:41] <holstein> lots
[04:41] <holstein> pulse audio setup
[04:41] <holstein> for playback
[04:41] <virtu> ok... holstein... just have to wait that little piece arrives here in Brazil...
[04:41] <virtu> I bought from ebay seller...
[04:42] <holstein> cool
[04:42] <holstein> for the price
[04:42] <holstein> its pretty good
[04:42] <holstein> for a nice somewhat low-latency card
[04:42] <holstein> with unbalanced ins
[04:42] <virtu> by the way I bought a refurb sansa fuze mp3/flac player..
[04:42] <holstein> you like?
[04:43]  * holstein using the droid now-a-days
[04:43] <holstein> i have an old archos
[04:43] <holstein> one of the early jukebox recorders
[04:43] <virtu> sure holstein my ideia is to record with built in record mode at my digital piano... and after that plug it into line in of the behringer and play it from digital piano recorded
[04:44] <holstein> whatever
[04:44] <holstein> you got USB out?
[04:44] <virtu> holstein, I took the Fuze to try rockboxed them and listen to flac audio
[04:44] <holstein> rockbox FTW :)
[04:45] <virtu> here I got a Sennheiser HD555 with a head amp fromk FiiO E5
[04:45] <virtu> for speakers I got a pair of Edifier R2000T (they are huge)
[04:45] <holstein> does your keyboard have USB out?
[04:46] <persia> Just as a note: one doesn't have to disable the internal card: one can just set JACK to use the external card.  If something else makes random noises, those will hit the internal card, and not affect the JACK environment.
[04:46] <holstein> persia: true
[04:47] <virtu> holstein, this one yes, my new one no (Yamaha P155)
[04:47]  * persia prefers that configuration, having had odd experiences with a two-card setup and libcanberra in the past.
[04:47] <holstein> i forget why guitarman over in #opensourcemusicians said he did that with his UCA202
[04:51] <virtu> well.. tks very much... have to go now... after the unit arrives I came back to get some help
[04:54] <holstein> virtu: sounds like fun
[04:55] <holstein> enjoy :)
[05:22] <vikarama> Hi, where is the realtime kernel on UbuntuStudio 10.10
[05:24] <holstein> hey vikarama
[05:24] <holstein> you will need a ppa
[05:25] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[05:26] <holstein> you should try the -lowlatency one though
[05:26] <holstein> and see if it works for you
[05:26] <vikarama> thanks a lot holstein...
[15:07] <doublehp>  can i ask here about sound masterisation ? using rezound , but general sound question
[15:08] <holstein> doublehp: ask what you want
[15:08] <holstein> we'll do what we can :)
[15:08] <doublehp> i have recorded a tape; i am in rezound, and i want to remove the "typical tape" noise"
[15:08] <doublehp> also want to automatically remove silences at begin and end (possible CLI tool), but manual method is ok for now
[15:09] <holstein> im sure theres is a tool like that somewhere
[15:09] <holstein> for me
[15:09] <holstein> i want to see the waveform
[15:09] <holstein> and choose manually what goes and what stays
[15:10] <holstein> actually, if its just stereo data that you're dealing with
[15:10] <holstein> audacity is probably a good and easier place to start
[15:10] <holstein> there are some noise-reduction tools in there
[15:11] <doublehp> i have rezound open, and file is loaded
[15:11] <doublehp> just need to know which filter to use
[15:11] <doublehp> i may have audacity; but i still don't kjnow the name of filter to use
[15:12] <holstein> again, i tend to not trust the automatic tools
[15:12] <doublehp> audacity open, othre file loaded in
[15:12] <holstein> i try them from time to time
[15:13] <doublehp> so ?
[15:13] <holstein> but, if i have some noise way up in the 15kHz +
[15:13] <holstein> i just use an EQ
[15:14] <doublehp> do those tools have a spectrometer ?
[15:14] <holstein> ACTUALLY, when i make a track
[15:14] <holstein> and there is noise
[15:14] <holstein> i look at why that noise is there
[15:14] <holstein> and re-record it if needed
[15:14] <doublehp> with a spectro, i could focus on parts, and see the shape of my noise
[15:14] <holstein> if you are coming from a cassette tape source
[15:14] <doublehp> i said, it's tape !
[15:14] <doublehp> tape always have noise
[15:14] <holstein> did it have dolby?
[15:15] <holstein> was it a nice deck?
[15:15] <holstein> what sound card was used to do the transfer?
[15:15] <holstein> do you have access to better equipment?
[15:15] <doublehp> 15 USD battery recorder, mono, pocket device
[15:16] <persia> All tape either has noise or insufficient dynamic range: side effect of how the tape heads work, sadly.
[15:16] <holstein> SO, you have a mono tape player that you bought for 15 bucks?
[15:16] <holstein> is that what you recorded with?
[15:16] <holstein> maybe you want to keep the tape-hiss sound
[15:16] <doublehp> noise is already in; now, i am ripping them ( 12 tapes); and while i rip the 2nd, i remaster the 1st
[15:16] <holstein> i mean, if you want that 'charm'
[15:16] <doublehp> no, i want to clean the noise away
[15:17] <holstein> doublehp: did you make the recordings on the 15 dollar device?
[15:17] <doublehp> not me; ME, i'd have used a digital device ... now, i am asked to "to a nice work using crap base"
[15:17] <doublehp> so, i ll do my best
[15:18] <holstein> if it were me, i would look at the source
[15:18] <holstein> get that 15 dollar tape player out of the loop
[15:18] <doublehp> there is no source; all i have are the stupid tapes
[15:18] <holstein> try and make sure the noise is not being introduced by the transfer process
[15:18] <holstein> and then, go from there with EQ
[15:18] <doublehp> i am sure
[15:19] <holstein> the problem is
[15:19] <holstein> with the EQ and noise removal tools
[15:19] <holstein> your going to get some of the wanted sounds removed along with hte unwanted
[15:19] <holstein> that being said
[15:19] <holstein> audacity is very simple
[15:19] <holstein> you just select what you want
[15:20] <holstein> if you want to effect the whole track
[15:20] <holstein> and go under 'effect'
[15:20] <holstein> there are noise removal tools
[15:20] <holstein> eq's
[15:21] <holstein> level-ers
[15:22] <holstein> doublehp: good luck :)
[15:22]  * holstein gotta run..
[15:22] <doublehp> ...
[15:22] <doublehp> sorry, machine locked up :)
[15:22] <holstein> no worries
[15:23] <holstein> i was just suggesting earlier
[15:23] <holstein> you dont want to make it sound like it *wasnt* recorded on a cheap-ass tape recorder
[15:23] <doublehp> i got the log in
[15:23] <holstein> otherwise
[15:23] <doublehp> how is the tool called ?
[15:23] <holstein> you would have used something else
[15:24] <doublehp> i gave give thos etapes, and asked to do my best
[15:24] <doublehp> i said them they are crap, they don't mind
[15:24] <holstein> theres all kinds of tools under 'effects'
[15:24] <holstein> doublehp: thats my point
[15:24] <holstein> it might be more that 'they dont mind'
[15:24] <holstein> might be 'we want it to sound like tape'
[15:25] <persia> Let's not make assumptions: client relations is best left to those who coordinate individual operations.
[15:25] <doublehp> fact is, i can not convert a tape into an MP3 without removing this noise; this noise is not audible with a tape reader, but in an mp3 player, the noise covers everything
[15:25] <doublehp> no, they don't
[15:25] <holstein> doublehp: AH
[15:25] <persia> Audacity is the most common tool used for noise cleanup (and some companies that sell USB cassette and USB turntable systems include Audacity as the bundled noise cleaner).
[15:26] <holstein> well that is a good argument for the transfer adding some noise
[15:26] <holstein> the cables
[15:26] <holstein> the sound card
[15:26] <persia> rezound is cool, but there's just *so many* LADSPA effects that it's probably better to ask in a wider forum (e.g. #opensourcemusicians) to find one good for tape noise filtering.
[15:27] <persia> The low dynamic range of a $15 tape player :)
[15:27] <holstein> yeah, and those guys said they prefer audacity for noise removal
[15:27] <holstein> because its easy, and mostly works well
[15:28] <persia> Audacity is definitely the tool of choice.  Doesn't mean there isn't some LADSPA plugin for it (although I wouldn't know which one).
[15:29] <holstein> BBL
[15:30] <doublehp> ReZound alsso "works"
[15:32] <persia> Oh, yeah, and ReZound is arguably a much more powerful sound editor.
[15:32] <persia> It just doesn't happen to be the most common tool used for noise reduction.
[15:33] <persia> And I very strongly suspect that someone has a couple LADSPA plugins that do noise removal.
[15:35] <doublehp> yup, dones in audacity faster than in rezound
[15:35] <doublehp> the interface is more intuitive
[15:38] <doublehp> now that Audacity gave me the noise shape, can i introduce those factors in some CLI tools to master all other tapes in one shot ?
[15:39] <persia> Yes, but I don't know how, sadly.
[16:13] <doublehp> i am going to kill some one TONIGHT
[16:13] <doublehp> after starting rezound and/or audacity, the input source was CHANGED from line to mic, in my back; 1h "record" records nothig !
[19:18] <dimbos> hello
[19:18] <dimbos> could someone help with ubuntu 10.10?
[19:56]  * yro_anjos is away: Ocupado!
[21:33] <dhevil> ubuntu studio hangs randomly. decent machine which ran Opensuse before. currently sitting side by side winXP
[21:33] <dhevil> suggestions?
[21:51]  * yro_anjos is away: Ocupado!