[03:54] can I share variables between pre-start script and script sections? [16:50] what might be the issue when a custom upstart job doesn't start at bootup on ubuntu 10.04 ? [16:51] is there a special way to install them, except for creating a file in /etc/init (or symlinking in) [16:53] upstart is still quite difficult to debug, but there are kernel command line options to show more details to the screen [16:53] it really needs a way to log debugging to a file, that would be the most helpful [16:58] do I need the event start on local-filesystems for something to boot at startup, or is it enough with start on runlevel [2345] ? [17:04] what does it depend on? [17:06] what are the kernel paramerets for increasing debugging? [17:09] okay, this is something interesting - if I boot and run initctl list as root, the jobs don't show up in the list, but if I do initctl reload-configuration they show up [17:09] the jobs are symlinked into /etc/init, and they are owned by a non-root-user [17:09] is that a potential problem? [17:43] hello, any one on, right on. i have a fedora 10 install of 3.9 and i want to check that installed alright. === JanC_ is now known as JanC