[03:54] <pharvey> can I share variables between pre-start script and script sections?
[16:50] <robinsmidsrod> what might be the issue when a custom upstart job doesn't start at bootup on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[16:51] <robinsmidsrod> is there a special way to install them, except for creating a file in /etc/init (or symlinking in)
[16:53] <BLZbubba_> upstart is still quite difficult to debug, but there are kernel command line options to show more details to the screen
[16:53] <BLZbubba_> it really needs a way to log debugging to a file, that would be the most helpful
[16:58] <robinsmidsrod> do I need the event start on local-filesystems for something to boot at startup, or is it enough with start on runlevel [2345] ?
[17:04] <BLZbubba_> what does it depend on?
[17:06] <robinsmidsrod> what are the kernel paramerets for increasing debugging?
[17:09] <robinsmidsrod> okay, this is something interesting - if I boot and run initctl list as root, the jobs don't show up in the list, but if I do initctl reload-configuration they show up
[17:09] <robinsmidsrod> the jobs are symlinked into /etc/init, and they are owned by a non-root-user
[17:09] <robinsmidsrod> is that a potential problem?
[17:43] <Mikoto-Itoshiki> hello, any one on, right on. i have a fedora 10 install of 3.9 and i want to check that installed alright.