[00:00] how do I install the latest Wine? [00:00] synaptic? [00:00] you need to add wines. ppa.. [00:01] www.winehq.org [00:01] follow instructions.. [00:07] so any essential things i need for linux [00:07] comming from Xp [00:07] sithlord48 Johnlux [00:07] yes loltph linux is not windows.. [00:08] I'm gonna convert to linux [00:08] lol, sounds like a religion [00:08] hey guys, I've got an issue with the new Wow 4.0.1 patch on kubuntu [00:08] loltph: read it will save you some possible fustration http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm [00:08] had enough of Microsoft [00:09] sithlord48 will read :), should be interesting [00:09] loltph: it should help you w/ some of the basics.. [00:10] anyone? [00:10] loltph: well nothing about the programs or anything like that but the basic things most new windows users expect. [00:10] silentz0r: im sorry i don't play wow.. [00:10] silentz0r: i know about wine.. but idk if thats gonna be to helpful [00:11] well, the error appears to be wow-related [00:11] I've been on ubuntu as a second system, never primary, whats the best way to emulate windows programs, apart from wine and play on linux [00:11] silentz0r: sorry [00:11] sithlord48 Johnlux [00:11] any channel for wow discussions? [00:12] silentz0r: im not sure.. [00:12] loltph: you can run window inside of ubuntu [00:13] i've got 4GB ram and 64x [00:13] is 64x ubuntu and kubuntu worth it? [00:13] loltph: for games mostly you want wine. or Play on linux , there is corssover games/office.. its all based on wine [00:13] whats crossover? [00:16] how come you guys help for free? [00:16] :) [00:21] loltph: i think everyone has their own reasons. [00:22] loltph: mine is i feel that if to use the software of the community. then i should also share my knowlage with my fellow community members [00:24] sithlord48: I want to promote Linux over Windows because microsoft's got enough money and linux needs some more support from the large software companies [00:24] adobe needs to stretch out a bit more [00:29] try gimp [00:29] gimp is a great program, I like it better than Photoshop now that I've used it quite a bit [00:30] loltph: thats the thing i hear alot from windows users.. i need this program, but there is a equilvent free program that does the job just as good for better then the properitary version [00:31] gimp it took me a bit to get used to it from photoshop as well. since i has used it so long. but when i got used to it its ezer to use [00:31] I know Linux orientated programs do a better job, but its hard to transit from windows to linux at first [00:31] gimp looks really cool/Extremely complicated lol [00:32] whats Abi word like? [00:32] my speakers out put while outputting to my headphones [00:32] or koffice's writeing program. [00:32] yes. they do [00:32] sithlord48:any fix for this [00:33] what about docx? [00:33] idk don't use it [00:33] because I'm a student [00:33] i think open office /libre office will open it [00:33] comming from linux to windows can be interesting sometimes [00:34] then u should tell your school to stop forcing properitary software on you :) [00:34] especially with open office [00:34] my school is stupid [00:34] idk if the ms suite will open the open document formats [00:34] nah all of the software runs on Windows they say [00:34] can anyone help me get and install skype on kunbuntu 10.4? [00:34] can't run on linux [00:35] I think the tech guys have no idea what their doing, sometimes :] [00:35] skype has files for linux though [00:35] they talk about getting it, but nope win 7 [00:35] yea I thought that was awesome [00:35] when I found out skype worked [00:36] rizz i think sykpe is part of the medibuntu repository [00:37] good to know :) [00:38] RIZZ: or partner perhaps.. either way try sudo apt-get install skype in a terminal [00:39] could you compare ubuntu to an ipod touch osx? [00:39] RIZZ: you will need to first enable the partner repo , from system settings-> software management-> settings -> edit sources and check off teh box for partner , the hit apply and reload teh sources [00:39] loltph: ? [00:40] So, I was thinking about doing the upgrade. What is the proper command to update to the next verison of kubuntu? [00:41] can't find skype should i reboot? [00:41] pookito: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades [00:41] loltph: really [00:41] installed, but know where to be found [00:41] Thanks dude === heihachi is now known as Gorobei [00:41] loltph: no you should reload the package cache [00:42] loltph: on then type skype in the search bar on the application launcher [00:43] is there anyway of loading into kde without rebooting === muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:44] log out then log in to a kde session === pavel_ is now known as estres === MuzerAway is now known as muzer [01:06] btw, skype is evil [01:18] hi all. Does anyone knows if QML and QUICK are Webkit-based or if they are webkit-independent? [01:27] Hi all. was hoping for some help with sound config. Since updating to Meerkat, something in the Phonon--pulseaudo--alsa chain has gone wrong. Since alsaplayer doesn't output, I'm guessing ALSA is the source of the problem. Where does ALSA log, so I can look for problems? === arthur is now known as ForgeAus === muzer is now known as MuzerAway [02:04] anyone here need help? [02:07] slooksterpsv: looks like kubuntu is so good it doesn't need ppl to help :) [02:07] hehe YAY! now to help fix Ubuntu issues =D [02:07] (note: I'm kidding of course) [02:08] you mean ubuntu as in underlying ubuntu or as in complete gnome desktop? [02:08] or the community? [02:08] perhaps the store? [02:09] (Ubuntu is attached to far far too many meanings now) [02:18] Hi guys. Can anyone give me tips on how to get a wireless pci dlink to work on 10.10? [02:19] I suppose you read the wifi links already? [02:19] !wifi [02:19] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [02:25] dasKreech, i'll revisit it. i was able to install the RA driver with previous versions using some instructions as a guide from the ubuntu forums, but haven't had the same luck on 10.10. Will take a look at your link right now. [02:25] ok === otro is now known as Cibort [02:27] dasKreech, yup. Tried that yesterday. Didn't work. [02:28] odd enough, it worked on 10.04 ubuntu, and the kubuntu 9.10 [02:28] Yeah ubuntu sucks for hardware consistency [02:28] oddly i meant. [02:28] is stasks or smoothtask plasmoids still around? [02:28] having something work for 4 releases doesn't mean it won't be broken for the next 3 [02:28] should be [02:28] checked kde-look.org ? [02:29] Is someone around that can process a notification of a broken update server? [02:29] Guest64905: Ask your question [02:30] dasKreech, should i just try to rebuild the RA driver again and hope to the high heavens that it works this time? [02:30] * onewit scratches his head. [02:30] are there errors? [02:30] The speglar.simnet.is/Ubuntu has not been fuctioning for a long time [02:31] onewit: it's a kernel issue so you can ask in #ubuntu as well if you like [02:31] looks for updates ... but says none are avalable... the software center is half emty as well if the system is tuned to this server [02:33] there are 2 servers in Iceland so its probably 50 % change this one will become the default server for those that boot the system up in Iceland [02:33] dasKreech: No rebuild errors. Thanks bud. i'll do that when i'm beside the rig. Am not on it right now. [02:33] Guest64905: does "sudo apt-get update" help at all? [02:33] great :) [02:33] No [02:34] hrm [02:34] Guest64905: PMing you [02:34] ok? [02:45] uh ok how do I remove a plasmoid from a panel? [02:45] it doesn't seem to want to co-operate === saintlee is now known as newboon2age [02:47] ohh its ok I fixed it... (just had to shrink my system tray ) [02:49] haha ha what? [02:52] where can i find agood manual for apt-get. specifically, where can i find instructions for the options that allow me to dl all of the recommended packages with the original package? [02:52] Cato37: you mean man apt-get ? [02:54] apt-get gets recommended packages by default these days. [02:54] dasKreech: i dont know. i am just tired of having to manually dl every single recommended package with a pertinent program. [02:57] Cato37: tried --download-only --with-reccomends ? [02:57] in any case by default it should download them unless you (or someone) turned that off so check your settings [03:00] dasKreech: i get "Command line option --with-reccomends is not understood" [03:00] dasKreech: same when spelled recommends [03:01] Cato37: I misspelt it But look at the apt-get manual [03:01] it's actually --install-recommends [03:01] dasKreech: may i get the url to the manual? [03:01] --with-recommends is aptitude ;) [03:02] Cato37: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man8/apt-get.8.html [03:02] or "man apt-get" [03:02] Cato37: man apt-get [03:03] dasKreech: thanks. i didnt realize man was a command. :) [03:03] rww: thanx. :) [03:03] Cato37: it is you can man man :) [03:03] to get the manual for man :) [03:03] don't man woman there is no manual for woman [03:06] the man who figures out a manual for women would be considered superhuman. [03:08] thank you for your help. :) [03:09] Cato37: Welcome [03:11] hmm why is kpackagekit indefinitely "waiting for authentication" yet hasn't asked me for any? === arthur is now known as ForgeAus [03:12] same here ForgeAus i don't even use kpackagekit i use the command line, kpackagekit hangs [03:13] it seems like it would be working fine if it just asked for password... [03:13] I dunno it does that. If kpackagekit is in the list I update that first then update everything else [03:13] but indefinite waiting for something thats never going to happen is ... just wrong [03:14] * dasKreech waits for microsoft to open the source for Office suite [03:14] heheh [03:14] is there any chance of that actually happening? [03:15] me personally I'm waiting for them to integrate office into windows.. instead of as a separate package [03:15] They can't [03:15] Europe would flay them [03:16] hehe [03:22] ahh finally found a seemingly useful KDE dock! fancy tasks! a first glance/try anyhow... [03:24] a few minor issues tho I don't know how to get it to snap to bottom of the screen and autohide... mayb eI need to put it in a panel ... [03:25] ahh it has its own type of panel! kewl! [03:26] :-) [03:27] it seem to work pretty well! I like it! [03:29] it could, of course be a little more configurable, but its a great start! ... === harmagent is now known as vector [03:57] anyone know how to fix the sound on kubuntu [04:00] whats wrong with your sound hazelbite and what version of kubuntu [04:01] its 9.1 and ‎i have no sound, i don't know whats wrong with it. it still works when i boot into windows [04:02] i already checked alsamixer and it seems fine [04:02] sounds seems to be hard to fix on kubuntu when you lose it [04:03] i always get it back by checking and unchecking the masters on the mixer or mutes and things its always around there somewhere [04:05] yeah, thats all i found on the internet [04:07] do you have bootup sound hazelbite or just no youtube or multimedia sound? [04:07] yeah i have bootup sound and sound when i close my laptop [04:07] hi [04:08] hi [04:08] ok you have no multimedia sound [04:08] brb [04:08] how compiling KDE 4.5 on Kubuntu 10.04LTS? [04:08] thats lucid right hazelbite ? [04:08] yes [04:09] oh wait 910 is karmic [04:09] 10.04 is lucid [04:09] yeah i have 10.04 [04:09] the newest version [04:09] i couldnt remember earlier [04:10] ThiagoN: no need, just use backports: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/packages-available-kde-platform-plasma-and-applications-451 [04:10] rww: I heard that compiling KDE runs faster [04:11] I doubt it [04:11] You'll spend more time dealing with the headache and problems from compiling it than you'll save in any speed increase [04:11] rww: so I wanted to learn to compile KDE [04:12] rww: you done this? [04:13] rww: I'm afraid of not working. And damage to the facility [04:13] that is always a possibility [04:15] I tried Kubuntu 10.10 and here demonstrates many bugs in my computer [04:24] i fixed my sound yo! [04:32] hazelbite: yo! [04:33] ThiagoN: #kde-devel and http://techbase.kde.org [04:34] dasKreech: thnx [04:35] Sure [04:41] how's everyone doing [04:42] ThiagoN: my plasma crashes constantly on 10.10 its also a cpu hog [04:43] im trying to go back to karmic where life was sane [04:43] olskolirc: yep [04:44] olskolirc: I returned to the stable version [04:44] olskolirc: 10.04 LTS [04:44] olskolirc: but I think KDE 4.5 beautiful: D [04:45] I didn't care for 10.04 sooner or later it scrambles the vlc [04:45] video [04:45] its ok ThiagoN i don't see much difference except moving things around and on maverick there is no /media/cdrom and I can't mount my cd's [04:46] and we are supposed to spend days trying to figure it out? [04:46] its a pice of s* [04:46] piece [04:48] ubuntu stopped making functional distros with karmic [04:48] olskolirc I disagree [04:48] karmic wasn't usable on my computers, wireless would drop after 10 min. [04:48] i need a link to usb creator that link was the only way i was able to make a bootable usb [04:48] i REALLY want to put karmic back on here [04:48] then put Karmic back on lol [04:49] yes i heard about ppl that needed dongle support [04:49] just install "orange" [04:49] right slooksterpsv but my usb creator isn't making my usb's bootable for some reason [04:49] i get a command line that says boot: [04:49] then you press enter [04:50] and i don't know what to type to make it go not like ther other ones [04:50] it just sits there slooksterpsv whe i hit enter and anything i type says not a linux image [04:50] I'd reformat the USB stick and resetup the usb with 9.10 [04:50] did taht [04:50] it wont boot anything not even debian lenny [04:51] id rather go back to debian [04:57] is it a fat32 partition that you reformatted it to? [05:00] Hi, I'm having a few problems getting dual monitors to work properly. Using nvidia-settings I have gotten both monitors to work but the second monitor is stuck at a low resolution. System settings did not work at all for dual monitors, it failed to detect them in the multiple monitors tab [05:03] i used fat ive used ext3 and ive tried it blank unallocated and nothing seems to stick keep getting that boot: at the prompt [05:03] slooksterpsv: [05:03] hi [05:04] hmmm... [05:04] i just downloaded a karmic from a different mirror ill try that === Jajajaja is now known as Cibort === joro is now known as Guest87462 [06:30] !ubottu [06:30] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots === ubuntu_ is now known as Jennie39 [06:32] !shut up! [06:32] :x [08:11] hi ! I got a little problem with UCK [08:12] when it asks for a customization action i select "run package manager" [08:12] but it's "Unable to find any package manager application" [08:12] please help me [08:28] hi === root is now known as Guest10517 [09:03] someone say my name please === Mike_ is now known as Guest54057 [09:11] Amarok's pretty cool [09:11] olskolirc:Hi, d'you use kubuntu much, as in standard linux user? [09:12] ive been on linux since redhat 6 loltph and rode a few distros and i love kubuntu im a kde girl [09:13] olskolirc: suse tried a few years, got me into ubuntu and now using kubuntu as well [09:13] olskolirc: dual environment [09:14] i never liked suse the display was always too huge on my machine loltph [09:14] olskolirc: any tips, I'm comming from xp [09:14] lol yea [09:14] a bit buggy [09:14] yes loltph never go back to winblowz [09:15] ok ummm [09:15] read read and read some more [09:15] olskolirc: to true [09:15] olskolirc: I need a compatible setup though [09:15] my usb ports don't work [09:15] you mean a dual boot? [09:15] ohhhh [09:16] what version of kubuntu are you on? [09:16] olskolirc:stupid ati usb ports [09:16] olskolirc:latest and greatest [09:16] 10.10 [09:16] olskolirc:as well as 10.10 for Ubuntu [09:16] i just left 10.10 an hour ago and put karmic back on im just getting down setting up all my toys [09:17] Maverick Meerkat sux [09:17] it ships with pulseaudio and hard to switch back to alsa if even possible the post were saying uninstall pulseaudio but then you wouldn't have audio in some apps [09:18] olskolirc: kde's a bit different than gnome, finding the gnome layout easier. But the kde widgets are pretty sweat :) [09:18] there is no /media/cdrom or cdrom0 and its not listed in /etc/fstab or mtab [09:18] my meerkat plasma desktop crashed constantly and it was a cpu hog on my 1.8 gig [09:18] can't find anything on meerkat [09:19] lol amarok stream keeps kutting out [09:19] i never use amarok its an eye sore and a run around i use vlc [09:19] i can get tv in mplayer too with: mplayer /dev/video0 [09:20] is this your first ubuntu from suse? [09:20] olskolirc:how d'you stream with vlc [09:20] suse first ubuntu and then Kubuntu [09:20] there are options- vlc is the best for multimedia by far [09:21] Kubuntu vs Ubuntu [09:21] hard to compare very different [09:21] i love kubuntu [09:21] yea, awesome codecs [09:21] guys like ubuntu b/c you don't have to think much [09:21] I like it for its awesome widgets [09:21] not much to decorate or work with [09:21] and its so simple [09:22] How d'you dual boot Ubuntu/Kubuntu with Xp [09:22] coz got some mandatory windows programs I need [09:23] Linux is a primary apart from Not USB support or Video card [09:23] olskolirc:holding me back from swapping [09:24] olskolirc:to linux [09:24] well they say its not a good idea to put two os's on one hard drive but ive never had a problem with it [09:25] you want to use a partition editor on windows first [09:25] make sure windows is installed first loltph [09:25] olskolirc: xp's already installed [09:25] move your hard drive space over loltph and reformat it to ntfs [09:26] olskolirc: I'm running on a install under windows setup right now [09:26] oh you are using "live" cd on your windows desktop? [09:26] a swap partition a windows and a Linux [09:26] nah I used an image program [09:26] can you install from a usb? [09:27] install linux to the empty partition and it will pick up windows too and install the boot loader to the "first part" when it ask [09:27] yes i just used a usb to install [09:27] So last I tried this setup it over writed the windows bootloader [09:28] so the setup must recognize Windows, your saying? [09:29] olskolirc: is that right? [09:30] yes loltph brb im at work === Nilesh is now known as Guest38321 [09:53] Hello All === jdk2588_ is now known as jdk2588 === chalcedony is now known as chalcedony` === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony === chalcedony` is now known as chalcedny [10:51] Kubuntu Maverick comes with KDE client for UbuntuOne? [10:53] it might, but I have not noticed anything like that. [10:54] It was not there with Lucid [10:55] well, then I imagine there's none. Release notes surely did not mention anything. [10:59] has anybody noticed that mplayer's fullscreen function doesn't work in maverick? [10:59] any workarounds? [11:00] https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client-kde [11:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/375145 [11:00] Launchpad bug 375145 in Ubuntu One Client "Ubuntu One should have a KDE client" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [11:01] volodya: ^^ [11:02] sresu: ah, nice to know works is ongoing [11:02] ah-ok [11:16] hi [11:44] Hi guys ever since I upgraded to kubuntu 10.10 (clean install) I am having some graphic issues. graphics draw very slow, when writing in console, letters appear not immediately. I am running Intel Arandale graphic chip. [11:54] bigbrovar, i lasted two days on meerkat its a cpu hog just like all the post say [11:54] i could hardly run virtualbox on it [11:55] there is no mount point for cdrom which is /dev/sr0 now [11:55] it ships with pulseaudio instead of alsa [11:55] kpackagekit doesn't reload [11:55] needless to say, im back on karmic this morning when life was sane [11:59] bigbrovar: intel? [11:59] yeah Intel [11:59] bigbrovar: yea i have that issue too [11:59] no way [11:59] the driver on the kernel is very bad [11:59] ... [12:00] great misery loves company [12:00] riposino [12:00] am glad [12:00] so is there a way to get round this. I don't even know how to file a bug [12:05] Seems that Maverick is a huge suck for those who have Intel graphics [12:07] Hi all [12:08] I am getting 3d acceleration on nvidia card with nouveau in Kubuntu 10.10. How did that become possible? !! [12:09] ranjan: don't complain, just be grateful :) [12:09] Riddell: its not a complaint ;) i am so happy that i dont need to install the proprietary one anymore :) [12:13] bigbrovar: well there is a repo... [12:13] bigbrovar: for video card [12:13] but it's very but very un-reccomended [12:13] if you are not an expert... [12:15] yeah I just added it now [12:15] Peace-: guess its the xedgers ppa right? [12:15] let me reboot and see how it goes [12:17] http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/ === maxihass is now known as Mofo [12:39] Peace-: I just tried the xorg edgers ppa and its quite unstable.. kwin kept crashing over and over. I had to ppa purge back to default packages [12:44] Hi all, [12:44] How to unset a variable (http_proxy) in ubuntu? [12:48] bigbrovar: nice you feedback me [12:50] bigbrovar: i was thinking to try it [12:58] Peace-: well u can still try it. if u use a different intel card than mine u just might be lucky. I am on arrandale the intel chip which comes with core i5 [13:25] hello, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10 and I'm having trouble with the KDE clipboard (klipper) [13:25] for example I mark some text in the Konsole and then click on Copy in the Edit menu [13:25] but klipper says the clipboard is still empty [13:25] are there known bugs about that...? === vincent is now known as Guest56351 [13:33] http://www.petitiononline.com/sislinux/ [13:33] Superman097, you were asked not to [13:37] *sigh* I give up [13:37] drag&drop works better than the clipboard === Misterio is now known as Misterio_ === Misterio_ is now known as Misterio [13:45] i've been using gnome for some time now, but i'm very interested in using kde, if you have a link to read through and learn more of the finer details that'd be great. [13:49] Maeth: I think you know http://www.kde.org/ ? [13:49] hadn't been there, no :( [13:50] ah, so this is freedom! i can ride a bike again! === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [13:54] i guess this is really where i should start http://userbase.kde.org/ [13:56] Maeth: for the finer details that looks good indeed, for an overview there's also the "kubuntu feature tour" http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour [13:56] a white box pops up over links, large square [13:58] it probably wants to load a preview of the website, you can put that off in Settings > Configure Quassel > Chat View > Show previews of web pages on url hoover [13:59] rork: it's this concept of plasma windows, idea [13:59] i see, so that's just quassel, nvm then [14:00] probably a good idea so someone doesn't send me to nimp [14:01] and it's mostly this plasma thing i'm having trouble with, idk what to do with this [14:01] what's the problem? [14:02] this sphere in the top right hand corner is baffling, what do you call that? [14:04] Maeth: officially the toolbox. most people call it the cashew [14:05] is it used a lot? is it always there? [14:06] i'll stop there, because i know this is annoying and i need to just read the wiki [14:09] Maeth: Always there [14:09] Maeth: basic place for all of your menu interactions with plasma. I'm always amused as to why people are so offended by it [14:10] although i did have my touchpad set to not tap to click, it's horriblly sensitive, is there an equivalent to gconf-editor so i can turn it off? or is it gconf and just two configs? [14:10] that sounds really dumb if g stands for gnome... :( kconf? [14:10] :-) [14:11] Hold on let me try and find out [14:15] Maeth: Do you have synaptics installed? [14:16] synaptic [14:16] ok [14:16] that setting doesn't work? [14:17] which setting? [14:17] Maeth: can you check if you have kde-config-synaptiks installed? [14:19] i did not, i do now [14:19]