[01:08] hi, i have latest lubuntu beta installed and updated. I have intel i810 gfx card. Video plays with stops if i dont use nomodeset kernel option. No i want to enable XV for video. How to do that? [01:13] run Gnome Mplayer [01:13] then select Edit > Preferences > Video output > XV [01:15] it doesn't work [01:16] i did: mplayer somevideo.wmv -vo xv [01:16] and it just plays sound. If i use sdl then it shows video too [01:31] seems like X vesa driver is the only one that works good enough for video playing and with X11 or sdl [01:31] xv malfunctions [01:33] Well now it loads fast, though probably is a bit too minimal to the point that I can't get my nvidia drivers to install. Package "binutils" [01:42] how can i set up some cool screensavers in lubuntu [01:45] <|friTTe|> Screensavers menu [01:47] <|friTTe|> and if you want you can use Synaptic and search for Xscreensaver [01:48] <|friTTe|> got some packages there =) [01:56] oh, thx [01:56] <|friTTe|> some are called extras, [01:57] <|friTTe|> but theres a explanation if you mark a package [01:57] <|friTTe|> there are actually some nice ones, im using the Matrix code on this machine hehe === Mossyfunk|Sleep is now known as Mossyfunk [02:21] How do I find out which video driver is being used? [02:34] Mossyfunk: not sure the best way but I know it does exist in /var/log/Xorg.0/log amongst other things [02:36] ahh cool thanks man [02:37] No worries mate [02:37] its surporisingly enough named "RADEON" [02:50] I can't find "lubuntu-control-center" as mentioned in a screencast. do I need to add a repo? After fresh install of 10.10 updates were failing but dist-upgrade seemed to fixn and update stuff === Mossyfunk is now known as Mossyfunk|Smoke === Mossyfunk|Smoke is now known as Mossyfunk [07:57] Question: Lubuntu 10.0, installed to Pendrive using Universal USB Installer. Persistence isn't working (set at 3gb). Anyone else have this problem? [07:58] 10.10, sorry [07:59] kieth, haha, I made yesterday some testings [07:59] and [08:34] I just tried the lubuntu live 10.10, and I am really liking it. :-) [08:34] good [08:35] it runs very well on this computer, and i was quite surprised with chromium [09:15] GhidorahLaptop, still satisfied?-) [09:15] yes [09:16] :-) [09:19] it is very fast on here, despite only having 512 mb of ram [09:20] i have actually never used chromium before, until tonight [09:21] GhidorahLaptop, you should install adthawrth or adblock [09:21] I'm a adthwarth user [09:21] blocks ads [09:21] i will check it out [09:21] i had adblock plus on firefox [09:22] i will have to figure out how to install plugins on chromium [09:22] ok, i found extensions [09:22] chrome://extensions [09:22] ;) [09:23] would you recommend adthwart over adblock? [09:23] i have only ever used adblock [09:24] you can try out both, which you like more [09:56] i am glad that i installed [09:57] yeah, lubuntu breaths new life to older hardware [09:58] i had ubuntu on it before, but i wanted something different [09:59] you might wanna join #ubuntu-offtopic [09:59] sorry [10:00] #lubuntu-offtopic [10:00] it's a channel where we chat all kind of things, this is mainly for the help [10:01] ok [10:39] hey anyone around? [10:39] I am [10:39] Yea, I found this patch https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=5147 [10:39] I wouldn't know where to begin on how to apply it [10:40] It supposedly modifies ctatc.c, but I couldn't even find that file on my system to edit it [10:42] http://www.pixelmonkey.org/2007/03/18/dv2000-alsa-patches I tried following those directions, but all I did was break alsa completely. [10:44] !share [10:44] !networkshare [10:44] !network [10:44] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [10:49] any ideas? [10:49] hmmm [10:51] so you're having problems with sounds? [10:51] Yea, its only out of the spdif output. Or rather through bit-perfect output [10:51] it plays in mono [10:51] well [10:51] worst than mono [10:52] it plays out of a single channel, rather than both. [10:52] :D [10:52] back in the 70's [10:52] or something [10:52] Its the "IEC958" Digital Audio output [10:52] gramophone [10:53] gramophone, I am a bit young for that [10:53] :D [10:53] but let's think about your problem more [10:54] when i try to watch the chromium screencast which is a mp4 video, my chromium is missing a plugin. What do I need to install to fix that? [10:54] lost my chat bar [10:56] anyway if I could make a working Alsa compile with that patch the problem should be fixed. It might already be fixed in 1.23, but it seems lubuntu is 1.22 [10:57] running 10.10 and [10:57] Source: alsa-driver [10:57] Version: 1.0.23+dfsg-1ubuntu4 [10:58] according to the package manager I am running 1.0.22.1 [10:58] I am using that 64-bit mini-iso [10:58] Is it not updated to 10.10? [10:58] oukey [11:00] he quitted [11:00] didnt have time to paste package [11:00] ? [11:00] That guy? [11:00] yeah [11:00] people come and go [11:00] Maybe he had same bug as me ;) [11:00] I lost chat bar a second ago since I am not using a real irc client [11:01] ahh [11:01] you guys should use xchat or something [11:01] Too lazy [11:01] I might later if I come back more [11:01] hmm [11:01] still wondering your sound problem [11:02] Well according to others, it has much to do with releasing the resource. [11:02] + /* Clear both chans */ + dao->ops->clear_left_input(dao); + dao->ops->clear_right_input(dao); [11:03] that is part of the patch which proves this [11:04] Not completely sure though, been a while since I have even used linux, even with its increased simplicitiy the backend workings are a bit alien to me atm [11:04] http://joeb454.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1336235 [11:05] gotta keep googling [11:06] I'll try it, but I am getting sound. Just out of one earphone(or speaker). [11:08] yea the mixer gives me a pretty alsamixer gui [11:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/358118 [11:08] Launchpad bug 358118 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "ALSA SPDIF IEC958 output no longer bit perfect (regression) (affected: 0, heat: 9)" [Medium,Triaged] [11:10] well then, seems like I got a bit of bad luck with that one [11:10] though [11:10] basicly you're not alone with problems [11:10] it explains why the output is not bit-perfect, but still doesn't explain channel imbalance which is an xfi issue [11:11] Yea, hmm I wanted to test this out but seems like i'll have to wait a while. Lets assume an update comes out for Alsa, how would I update to it with lubuntu? [11:11] especialyl since my synaptec is 1.0.22 and yours is 1.0.23 [11:11] doesn't seem like its proper [11:12] I'm running 32bit [11:12] hmm [11:12] let's have a look [11:12] yeah [11:13] my linux mint 9 machine says Version: 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3 [11:13] but your lubuntu is 1.0.23? [11:13] yes [11:15] hmm, looking for a repository I could maybe add to sources that will upgrade my alsa [11:15] my ex coworker had hp dv laptop [11:15] and he always had some problems running ubuntus, but nothing with SuSe [11:15] and I was always configuring it for him [11:15] and once he askd if I would like to have bottle of something [11:16] and he offered redwine, but I said i'm a whiskey person more [11:16] and ofcourse I got the cheppeast and bad testing bottle :D [11:16] ha [11:16] it was disgusting even with the coke :D [11:16] Yea I always have problems with Linux [11:16] because my hardware is not necessarily matched for it. [11:17] I am pretty sure with a USB transport on a Intel Atom box I won't have nearly as much trouble as I am with this one [11:18] I havent had any problems with my INTEL D945GLF2 [11:18] Yea thats what I figure [11:19] but that sounds thing, it's a challenge [11:19] only for this machine [11:19] :D [11:20] O you are here ninji :) [11:20] but if alsa is not bit-perfect in its current build I would have no control over that [11:20] yep I am ;) [11:20] lol i have like 2 months without entering this channel, so busy with college [11:20] but this xfi channel imbalance, theres a fix out there I just need to get it patched into alsa. [11:21] I don't think I am a ninji you know [11:21] when i try to open a video, i get this: Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - but, the video still runs. I want to get rid of the error, but i do not know what to do [11:22] * Octavio googling.... define:ninji [11:22] What video player are you using Ghidorah? [11:22] GhidorahLaptop, http://vsingleton.blogspot.com/2010/02/failed-to-open-vdpau-backend.html [11:22] gnome mplayer [11:23] yea try that blog [11:24] ok thanks [11:24] solved [11:24] hmmm [11:24] wish I could help you ninji [11:24] now i need to find out why chromium cant play embedded mp4 videos such as the lubuntu screencast about chromium [11:24] but I have to raise my hands up [11:25] Well guys is 3:23 am here in Sonora(Mexico). I hope we call talk more tomorrow. : ) See you all. [11:25] GhidorahLaptop, sudo apt-get install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra && killall chromium-browser [11:25] :D [11:25] thats fine i [11:25] i'll figure something out [11:25] ciao man [11:25] @octavio [11:25] ninji: Error: "octavio" is not a valid command. [11:25] :) [11:26] bah forgot IRC commands started with @ usually [11:26] nope, ! or . ;) [11:26] ^_ - [11:26] @help [11:26] bioterror: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [11:26] @plugins [11:26] bioterror: Error: "plugins" is not a valid command. [11:26] @list plugins [11:26] bioterror: Error: 'plugins' is not a valid plugin. [11:26] alright I am going to try updating alsa without any patch, going to be a while and will probably go to bed [11:26] so night ;) [11:27] bioterror, that is already installed [11:27] GhidorahLaptop, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree ;) [11:29] no luck with that either :-/ [11:29] <|friTTe|> morning my brothers from another mother [11:30] Well I'm leaving now, see you soon guys :)- [11:35] would chromium-codecs-ffmpeg get the mp4 playing? [11:35] i have extra, and nonfree, but it still wont play [11:35] it should be intalled by defaul [11:35] t [11:35] you can check it out too [11:35] if it's not [11:37] i installed it, and it removed extra, and nonfree, and still wont play [11:38] cant understand [11:39] i dont eithe [11:39] r [11:41] the only format i am having trouble playing is .mp4 [11:42] yeah, and it should be supported [11:42] :D [11:42] can you share the file with me? [11:42] is it on a webpage [11:42] that I can leech it [11:42] http://lubuntu.net/node/25 [11:43] just a moment [11:43] using pendrive and installing citrix icaclient [11:49] <|friTTe|> wont play for me either [12:00] http://a48.video2.blip.tv/6840003728296/Llelectronics-LubuntuWebbrowser237.mp4?bri=9.1&brs=4228 [12:03] that link works [12:04] i have a question about when starting up lubuntu. right before it gets to the logon screen, there is a quick screen with some sort of error, but i can't read it in time. do you know of it? [12:04] GLib-something? [12:04] yeah [12:05] I get the same :D [12:06] same here [12:06] hey bioterror [12:06] hi [12:12] hmmm [12:12] I have nothing in logs about that [12:12] 777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// [12:13] srry [12:19] no sounds working on pidgin [12:20] booted twice and didnt see it [12:21] (07:21:03) gstreamer: Resource not found. is what i get in pidgin debug window when i try to preview a sound on pidgin [12:23] GhidorahLaptop, cannot help you with that one [13:57] i can't find the lubuntu-control-center from the video on lubuntu.net [13:57] where is it? [14:00] <|friTTe|> i think that a.deb file you will have to download [14:00] <|friTTe|> i dont have it either [14:01] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa < ok, i found a ppa for it [14:01] <|friTTe|> yeah there it is [14:03] <|friTTe|> hmm hehe id ditn have that Ppa =) [14:03] <|friTTe|> well i do now [14:09] it ist most of the settings menu together in one tool. but it looks like a nice to have thing [14:12] <|friTTe|> yeah, but it looks really nice [14:12] <|friTTe|> easy to find all the stuff [14:14] yes [14:15] i tried lubuntu on my laptop, switched to xubuntu because i was more familar with it and now back to lubuntu, because xubuntu looked to "heavy" for my taste [14:19] gotta go now [14:34] <|friTTe|> sure [15:18] So to get the "proper" lubuntu experience the PPA is pretty much required? [15:18] From what I read it was only really for testing, is that not the case? [16:45] hi [16:48] Hello leszek [17:16] Wish me luck, my VM for lubuntu is going to natty as we speak [17:25] :) [19:11] is it possible to install the Ubuntu Software Center in Lubuntu? [19:29] yes, without problems [19:30] sudo apt-get install software-center [19:30] bingo! thanks [19:30] or use synaptic to do that === Administrator is now known as Guest63195 [19:41] Where do we go to suggest changes to the GRUB used by Lubuntu? === Guest63195 is now known as kieths [19:44] kieths: you can subscribe the mailinglist, but basically I guess you go to Ubuntu as Lubuntu uses the ubuntu grub [19:44] is there any fix for this GLib WARNING getpwuid_r failed due to unknown user id 0? it occurs right before the login screen. [19:44] The splash (using live Pendrive) show Lubuntu, then a cropped off Lubuntu graphic at the bottom of the screen.... [19:45] And when exiting (shutdown), it says to remove the cd, then hit enter.... Don't want that on my SD/ USB installation. Wasn't there in 10.04. Regression on 10.10 [19:46] Guessing the Logo / splash screen with the menu and all is GRUB (probably a graphic artwork gone awry). [19:47] The Shutdown asking for ENTER, can't guess when that's coded. [19:52] wooot, just figured out what was wrong with my sound in pidgin. [19:53] kieths: that has both nothing to do with grub [19:54] Very good. With what part does it deal? [19:55] kieths: for getting away the eject message try to add the boot option : "noeject noprompt" [19:55] this should supress the message [19:56] the splash during booting is created using plymouth [19:56] hmmmm... Using the shortcut (lower right corner), clicking Shutdown. I'm guessing I'd need to find a way to modify the GUI's link? [19:57] kieths: no I mean the bootoption in grub [19:57] Plymouth. That's a point in the right direction, thanks. Will chase down the artwork designer on Plymouth. [19:57] Might be able to modify the graphic screen if I can identify which file it is. [19:58] kieths: the artwork is alright [19:58] its no artwork problem [19:59] It says lubuntu, (1/3 down from top), then lubuntu at the bottom, slightly cropped off. [19:59] It's that hazy blue-white - -- a graphic, not text [19:59] Perhaps its just not justified to full screen, and instead is tiling.. [20:04] kieths: you are talking about the bootsplash that also shows the animated dots while booting ? [20:05] before. selection menu background [20:06] ah ok, then its the syslinux graphics I guess. Did you create the live usb stick with usb-creator ? [20:07] universal usb installer [20:07] I don't know this one but I highly guess that this universal usb installer did something wrong [20:08] looks same as when blasted to cd... [20:08] worked on 10.04 [20:09] also, no 'remove cd / press enter' prompt on 10.04, but there is on 10.10. [20:09] ....both, as default [20:11] I cannot reproduce this here with the lubuntu live cd (the graphics look like this: http://yfrog.com/2cbildschirmfoto1scp [20:11] kieths: the prompt to 'remove cd and press enter' is there since ubuntu 5.04 :P [20:12] as I said before it can be deactivated by adding "noprompt noeject" to the bootoptions [20:13] I see historical 'fixes' and refs to it. Assuming the universal USB Installer did something to remove it for 10.04 during USB install (MUCH MUCH preferred!!!), but didn't do so on 10.10 [20:14] yeah it added noeject to the bootoptions in 10.04 I guess [20:14] bootoptions.... will search to find whereabouts, assuming preferences or similar.. [20:14] makes perfect sense - and makes even more sense when its not a cd! [20:15] kieths: no those boot options are those ones you can type in by pressing f6 here: http://img84.imageshack.us/i/bildschirmfoto1sc.png/ [20:16] I guess universal usb installer is using syslinux so there you might simply add those options in the syslinux.cfg file on your usb stick [20:16] then.... select each time? no good. Using the installatoin as a fast in, fast out one trick pony, running a script. Don't want click here, there options in the way.. [20:17] Wikll look into that - compare 10.04 vs 10.10 USB files [20:17] as I said you can edit the syslinux.cfg and add the option there right after quiet splash [20:17] good stuff...and thank you very very for the direction... [20:17] :) [20:18] Dropped the timeout to 1 sec, auto-select first option. Inside Lubuntu, added a startup script to auto-delete the Install to hdd shortcut which auto-adds itself each boot. [20:20] Made a 'real-feel' OS. Google bombed (persistence enabled, so it's persistantly dead), so added my preferred browser, Firefox. [20:31] * phillw waves to leszek :) [21:03] :) === MichealH is now known as Guest7335 === Guest7335 is now known as MichealH [21:22] my remaining battery percentage is stuck at "estimating". [21:22] any know fixes? [21:22] known* [21:25] ur battery is okay? [21:26] seems to be [21:26] czz: I think its a known bug , see the release announcement of ubuntu [21:26] no fix avaiable I guess [21:27] far enough, thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel === fredrik__ is now known as |friTTe| [22:43] hi all [22:43] howdy [22:44] anybody knows a good way to download videos like from youtube? [22:44] <|friTTe|> \\O [22:44] yes [22:44] youtube-dl - download videos from youtube [22:44] gooD! [22:44] <|friTTe|> clipgrab [22:44] * phillw uses a plugin for firefox [22:44] <|friTTe|> clipgrab is awesome, can choose resolution and all too [22:44] i dont use firefox [22:44] manfredrasta, apt-cache show youtube-dl [22:45] shows you the information [22:45] i use chromium [22:45] and for any flash video? not only youtube? [22:46] manfredrasta: so do I the vast majority of the time, there are some web developers tools still only on Ffox, although the chromium team are making astounding progress. [22:46] phillw, ok, and that plug in for firefox? [22:46] manfredrasta, http://rtmpdump.mplayerhq.hu/ [22:46] phillw, also have ff [22:48] hi? [22:49] manfredrasta: http://www.downloadhelper.net/ [22:49] phillw, ok [22:50] Ahh, well cool :D http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ is now available for Chrome/Chromium :) [22:51] I know he was working on it. [22:52] phillw, ill try that [22:53] manfredrasta: It's the only real reason I still use Ffox, as it links up for testing my accessibilty for my coding. [22:53] phillw, nothing to do with my problem :) [22:54] phillw, i thought it was a download plugin for chromium [22:54] no, that plug in just for people who write web sites [22:54] phillw, i write web sites :) [22:55] the one bioterror gave you would probably be better for downloading stuff. [22:55] phillw, what do you mean? [22:55] well, it is available now in chromium, which means I do not need both browsers running :) [22:55] phillw, ok [22:56] phillw, ill try with ff [22:56] phillw, its not a problem [22:56] manfredrasta: I write to http://mgjuddltd.co.uk/conformance.php standards [22:58] phillw, what is that page¿ [22:58] the culmination of two months of testing and re-writing :) [22:59] I was so close the AAA, the guys who push for it gave me loads of help. [22:59] I'd have settled for AA, but they said I could achieve AAA [23:00] phillw, i dont understand what do you mean by AA or AAA [23:01] There are 3 grades for web accessibilty, know a 1, 2 3 and also as A, AA, and AAA, with 3 and AAA being the highest. [23:02] manfredrasta: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32 charts my progress. [23:05] phillw, and once i have an .flv file? [23:05] phillw, how can i wach it? [23:06] the player in lubuntu should be able to play it [23:06] phillw, ok. ill tell you :) [23:11] phillw, it works [23:11] thank you [23:12] you're welcome. [23:16] i really like lubuntu, but unfortunately, i have a habit of making a mess of installations, so i will have to reinstall tonight [23:18] GhidorahLaptop: if you're one who likes messsing and breaking things, you may want to make a sperate /home partition so your personal data is safe. [23:18] the only problem i had that i really know of was that pidgin wasn't playing sounds, but i got that solved [23:19] i am really impressed with chromium [23:28] what would be a good size for the / partition ? [23:29] the / partition only needs to be couple of GB. === zkriesse__ is now known as zkriesse_ === zkriesse_ is now known as Guest97738 === Guest97738 is now known as zkriesse [23:52] what makes lubuntu so appealing? [23:52] and how does it use less resources? [23:53] czz: It's small, lean and keen. the use of lxde instead of gnome / xfce means it has a lower over head. Also the programmes that have been chosen are very carefully chosen to be the lowest over head possible, yet be functional. [23:54] czz: there's a joke that if we want a programme adding to the list, it must use no disk space, and no RAM or CPU time when it runs ;)