| * vish catches up with artwork mailing list.. | 10:12 | |
| vish | thorwil¦ did you reply to kofi ? | 10:20 |
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| vish | i think i may have stopped you back then :( | 10:20 |
| thorwil | vish: no, didn't. don't worry about people who don't show initiative too much ;) | 11:05 |
| vish | :) | 11:05 |
| thorwil | doctormo: heh, while the list might be full of people who have no idea who you are, i often read your posts via planet ubuntu and i took notice of groundcontrol | 11:59 |
| doctormo | thorwil: Hey! | 14:07 |
| doctormo | thorwil: I've been battling IRC to get back online to talk to you some more about the website idea. | 14:08 |
| thorwil | doctormo: i'm here now, but about to disappear soon, for a bit | 14:10 |
| doctormo | What is your timezone? | 14:10 |
| thorwil | CEST/Berlin, currently GMT+2 | 14:12 |
| doctormo | thorwil: I'm GMT-5, so we'll be out by about 7 hours, :-/ but not impossible. | 14:13 |
| doctormo | Quickly though, I fancy django, I have code, it's python, I like it. your thoughts? | 14:14 |
| thorwil | doctormo: who doe, decides | 14:14 |
| doctormo | thorwil: And if 5 people doeth on their tod? | 14:15 |
| thorwil | doctormo: in the python realm, pylons/turbogears are nice for making it easy to select components and for only including what you need | 14:15 |
| thorwil | doctormo: tod? | 14:16 |
| thorwil | ah, it means alone, on their own, apparently | 14:17 |
| doctormo | thorwil: increasing English comprehension since 1984 ;-) | 14:18 |
| thorwil | heh | 14:18 |
| doctormo | So about this kind of thing, what does django not do that pylons can help with? | 14:18 |
| doctormo | (I'm also reading up on them both too) | 14:19 |
| thorwil | it's rather that django might do a bit more. the pylons stuff is based on wsgi from the get go, so you have components sitting right on that standard | 14:20 |
| thorwil | where django has it's own approach to components, afaik | 14:21 |
| vish | thorwil¦ what are you guys talking about? design hub? | 14:22 |
| thorwil | it's my a suspicion that django is more rigid and gets in your way once you treat offside usual CMS paths | 14:23 |
| doctormo | http://www.djangopony.com/ | 14:23 |
| thorwil | vish: our take on it, yes | 14:23 |
| vish | ah.. | 14:23 |
| vish | k.. I will really read the full mailing list, now! ;) | 14:24 |
| vish | i mean the backlog. | 14:24 |
| doctormo | thorwil: So, reading up it seems that if we're making a website which is mostly publishing, then djanog makes a lot of sense. | 14:24 |
| thorwil | who could argue with a pink pony!? | 14:24 |
| vish | doctormo¦ was that by hbons or lapo by any chance? | 14:24 |
| vish | they seem to have a recent pony fetish ;p | 14:24 |
| thorwil | doctormo: i don't doubt that django will be appropriate, but still wonder if other approaches wouldn't be better in the long run | 14:25 |
| doctormo | But if we're making a lot of custom models and doing a lot of things out of ORM/MVC then pylons would work better in the long run. | 14:25 |
| thorwil | doctormo: but in any case, best might be to design this thing first, before turning to implementation | 14:25 |
| doctormo | We have AlchemySQL in pylons, but the rather weak db ORM in django, (I don't like that ORM btw) | 14:26 |
| doctormo | thorwil: You wanted to discus frameworks first. | 14:26 |
| thorwil | doctormo: that's a misunderstanding. | 14:27 |
| thorwil | but it doesn't hurt to see what's out there and where we have experience | 14:28 |
| thorwil | gone for a bit, bbl | 14:28 |
| thorwil | i think nothing i didn't mention already, but http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/web-frameworks/ | 17:03 |
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