[00:11] <IdleOne> Please keep an eye on ArtArfon. I already warned him about language and attitude. he is also randomly offtopic with his comments
[00:36] <Jordan_U> ArtArfon is trolling in #ubuntu
[00:37] <IdleOne> yup
[00:51] <elky> Gone now?
[01:02] <IdleOne> elky yes
[03:17] <IdleOne> hello ka1ser
[03:18] <IdleOne> how can I help you?
[03:18] <olskolirc> IdleOne: y9ou are being too hard on me
[03:18] <IdleOne> I don't believe I am
[03:19] <IdleOne> you were given a link to the code of conduct and asked to remain on topic. You chose not to
[03:19] <IdleOne> I asked you very nicely to stop, you chose not to.
[03:19] <olskolirc> you unkicked me, when i came in, they were talking about  pronounciations, and i asked my pronounciations question as well how was "I" off topic or trolling when they were already talking about it when I came in and you banned ME
[03:19] <IdleOne> I warned I would ban you if you didn't
[03:20] <olskolirc> You did not warn a ban
 olskolirc: Please stop asking question that are not Ubuntu support related. I am asking really nice here. I really don't feel like having to ban you.
[03:20] <IdleOne> looks like a warning to me
[03:20] <olskolirc> and I wasn't the perpertrator when I came back in IdleOne the conversation was alredy in place and you picked ME
[03:20] <olskolirc> THEY asked, I just asked too
[03:20] <IdleOne> I don't care who started it. I asked you not to continue it.
[03:20] <olskolirc> you didn't ban anyone else im new
[03:21] <olskolirc> and i didn't and the next think i know i was banned
[03:21] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[03:21] <IdleOne> please read that
[03:21] <olskolirc> IdleOne: that doesn't make your decision right all the links in the world doesnt make you right
[03:21] <olskolirc> I didn't do that
[03:21] <olskolirc> maybe you should take on some colored text IdleOne so that you can keep up on your "ubuntu"
[03:22] <IdleOne> colored text?
[03:22] <olskolirc> then you would see that conversation was in place before i came in and asked my question on the already offtopic and then you said stop and then banned me
[03:22] <olskolirc> yes colored text so you can keep up with who said what
[03:22] <IdleOne> I was there reading the whole time
[03:22] <olskolirc> I knew your finger was itching b/c you couldn't stay off of my nick
[03:23] <olskolirc> you banned me b/c you WANTED too
[03:23] <olskolirc> i wasn't doing nothing when i came back
[03:23] <IdleOne> olskolirc: Please come back in 24hrs and we can discuss it then. for now I am not going to remove the ban
[03:23] <olskolirc> good so you know I didn't ask how do you pronouce ubuntu
[03:23] <olskolirc> and everyone commented on it
[03:23] <IdleOne> they did.
[03:23] <olskolirc> when I asked how do you pronounce linux, you said stop and then banned me with NO ban warning
[03:24] <olskolirc> when? AFTER you banned me?
[03:24] <IdleOne> I don't have to warn you
[03:24] <IdleOne> I asked you earlier to stay on topic
[03:24] <IdleOne> you didn't
[03:25] <IdleOne> what others did or didn't do has nothing to do with what you did
[03:25] <olskolirc> i did nothing wrong ive been on irc for 14 years and never got a ban and moreover over a topic that was already being discussed but you blamed me for the offtopic, then lied and accused me of not stopping how do I NOT stop if i have been kicked and banned already
[03:25] <IdleOne> I don't lie
[03:25] <IdleOne> ever
[03:25] <IdleOne> about anything
[03:25] <IdleOne> olskolirc: Please come back in 24hrs and we can discuss it then. for now I am not going to remove the ban
[03:26] <olskolirc> you kicked me, i came back in on a conversation that was already in play, and "offtopic" conversation and asked how do i pronouce linux so long as everyone was talking about how to pronounce ubuntu
[03:26] <olskolirc> see why your channels have the less numbers IdleOne?  I bet its b/c you are around
[03:26] <highvoltage> olskolirc: I'm not familiar with the incident, but IdleOne has been doing this for a while, I suggest you take some time to cool down and come back in 24 hours as he suggest
[03:26] <olskolirc> he did it b/c im a girl highvoltage
[03:26] <IdleOne> olskolirc: #ubuntu is the largest channel on freenode afaik
[03:26] <olskolirc> i tell all my girl friends when you go to irc, don't tell them you are a girl some get their egos in the way
[03:26] <highvoltage> olskolirc: I seriously doubt that
[03:27] <olskolirc> soon as I said im a girl, he steady attacked ME
[03:27] <IdleOne> olskolirc: accusing me of sexism is plain idiotic.
[03:27] <olskolirc> hes been here 4 years big deal
[03:27] <olskolirc> ive been here and have admined many servers for 14
[03:27] <olskolirc> and NEVER got a ban
[03:27] <olskolirc> girl and all
[03:27] <IdleOne> I have admined servers also...your point?
[03:28] <IdleOne> actually it doesn't matter.
[03:28] <IdleOne> olskolirc: Please come back in 24hrs and we can discuss it then. for now I am not going to remove the ban
[03:28] <olskolirc> my point is i never used my @ to bully anyone
[03:28] <olskolirc> thats what YOU do
[03:28] <olskolirc> whatever that means
[03:28] <IdleOne> !appeals
[03:28] <olskolirc> Anderson Cooper is going to do a story on your IdleOne about cyber bullies
[03:28] <IdleOne> if you feel I have abused my @ there is the info you need to contest
[03:29] <olskolirc> and its all logged IdleOne so I don't know what you think you got away with
[03:29] <olskolirc> im going to keep going until you lose your @
[03:29] <highvoltage> olskolirc: good luck with that
[03:29] <persia> olskolirc, The only means for that is to use the appeals method just posted.
[03:30] <persia> Nothing external will affect it in any way.
[03:30] <olskolirc> banned for asking the same offtopic conversation that the room was already talking about and it was just a one liner one question about pronounciation
[03:30] <olskolirc> and you picked ME b/c im a girl
[03:30] <highvoltage> olskolirc: also, judging by your poor choice of words and your attacks on IdleOne in this channel, I doubt any one will take you seriously
[03:30] <IdleOne> again I am telling you that is idiotic
[03:31] <olskolirc> its the truth highvoltage i didn't call him names or disrespect him - what are you guys in your 20's?
[03:31] <olskolirc> you think like 20 year olds
[03:31] <maco> IdleOne: and that was ableist
[03:31] <highvoltage> olskolirc: I am, do you have a problem with that?
[03:31] <IdleOne> maco?
[03:31] <maco> i rather doubt IdleOne would be mean to someone for being a girl. he's one of the lovely people working in the Ubuntu Women Project
[03:31] <maco> IdleOne: "idiotic" was an ableist insult
[03:31] <persia> olskolirc, I understand your issue.  I encourage you to take action to resolve it.  The current two methods that will best generate results are to appeal using the appeals process, or come back here in 24 hours.
[03:31] <nhandler> Alright. olskolirc, you have been told about the Appeals Process. If you have nothing else to discuss, please leave. You can return in 24 hours to discuss this further if desired.
[03:31] <ka1ser> Im on my 20s =)
[03:31] <olskolirc> to you men maybe maco
[03:32] <IdleOne> indeed. I apologize for my poor choice of words
[03:32] <maco> olskolirc: i'm a man? news to me
[03:32] <olskolirc> soon as I said i was a girl, he told me to shut up and kicked me - soon as i came back in i joined a conversation and he told me to stop talking offtopic it was already the conversation when I came in and before i could say anything, i was banned
[03:32] <ka1ser> olslokirc... just get another ip and fake you are not olslokirc =)
[03:32] <olskolirc> what do you call that?
[03:32] <persia> Those of us who are recieving end, let's please not respond to the sort of triggers that wouldn't be expected under the CoC: no need to extend things.
[03:33] <persia> ka1ser, Please don't encourage that sort of thing.
[03:33] <persia> olskolirc, Please raise the issue to the IRCC.  We *can't* take action about it, whether we believe you or not.
[03:33] <olskolirc> im not going through all that trouble ka1ser he has no right to ban me and its b/c i said i was a girl the first time before i was kicked
[03:33] <persia> It needs to be submitted via the appeals process.
[03:34] <olskolirc> and who is in charge of the appeals process IdleOne?
[03:34] <IdleOne> the IRCC
[03:34] <persia> olskolirc, You're telling us, but we can't do anything, and we can't appeal on your behalf.  The rules are constructed in a way that means that you *do* have to go through "all that trouble" if you want results.
[03:34] <IdleOne> I am not
[03:34] <IdleOne> so your appeal will be read and handled by people who are not me.
[03:35] <olskolirc> just want everyone to know what a troll IdleOne is before i file.  Isn't that what you called me before i was banned IdleOne?  a troll!
[03:35] <persia> And the IRCC is beholden to the CC which is beholden to sabdfl.  Nobody in that chain is going to collude to hide an issue.
[03:35]  * maco is reading scrollback in #ubuntu and finding the "lap dance" comment horribly inappropriate
[03:35] <olskolirc> and now my kids are going to hate linux!
[03:35] <olskolirc> so what maco lighten up and get a woman you would love it
[03:35] <persia> olskolirc, Please don't let the actions of an individual colour your opinion of a kernel.  Just appeal.
[03:35] <maco> olskolirc: i'm not a lesbian, sorry
[03:35] <highvoltage> olskolirc: you realise maco *is* a woman?
[03:35] <olskolirc> lapdance isn't the issue
[03:36] <IdleOne> maco: for the record I only removed for that comment where I was within my rights to ban.
[03:36] <olskolirc> then dont be so fridgid maco shake your rump and have some fun online
[03:36] <maco> olskolirc: um, no, we try to be a bit more professional than that here and if a man joined #ubuntu-women and said something equally sexual i would ban him for it
[03:36] <persia> olskolirc, Please, appeal, or wait, but in any case, that sort of comment isn't acceptable in *any* Ubuntu channel.
[03:36] <olskolirc> funny IdleOne didn't post the comment
[03:37] <olskolirc> lighten up maco i don't get paid here do you?
[03:37] <nhandler> olskolirc: If you have nothing further to discuss, you have been informed of your options.
[03:37] <ka1ser> lol... I know probably saying this on this channel is again against the rules... but I must say I find this situation funny... probably bc it didnt happen to me =/
[03:37] <nhandler> ka1ser: Is there something we can help you with?
[03:37] <persia> ka1ser, No, that'd not appropriate, and borderline on demonstrating lack of respect.
[03:38] <olskolirc> now they are in a tizzy ka1ser
[03:38] <ka1ser> not really I just wanted to know how this channel works
[03:38] <ka1ser> thanks for offering help
[03:38] <maco> ka1ser: there's a no idling policy here
[03:38] <nhandler> ka1ser: There are logs on irclogs.ubuntu.com if you want to see what goes on here
[03:38] <olskolirc> be careful what and how you ask ka1ser the men that don't have a woman get power tense and shoot from the keyboard instead of
[03:38] <olskolirc> and thats a FACT
[03:39] <maco> olskolirc: getting paid has little to do with being professional.  for example, do you realise that most of these channels are publically logged?
[03:39] <olskolirc> ive seen ops like IdleOne before
[03:39]  * maco hugs IdleOne
[03:39] <ka1ser> olskolirc just calm down... personal suggestion
[03:39] <olskolirc> professional?  this isn't my job im home having a good time - YOU be professional I DON'T HAVE TO
[03:39] <ka1ser> okay im leaving
[03:39] <ka1ser> thanks =)
[03:40] <maco> olskolirc: that doesnt change that we have rules regarding respectfulness and being within the bounds of a PG movie
[03:41] <olskolirc> dont be a prude maco there was nothing wrong with me saying lapdance and i was kicked for that im not talking about that so he need not REACH way back there about my ban i was already kicked for that, im talking about being banned for asking a quesiton about pronouncing the word linux when they were already talking about how to pronounce ubuntu
[03:41] <olskolirc> THAT was when i came back from being kicked and didn't do nothing wrong
[03:41] <maco> you were told you were being offtopic MANY times before the kick happened, from what i see, and by many different people
[03:41] <olskolirc> i don't see IdleOne banning anyone else for the offtopic that was in place when i came in
[03:41] <nhandler> olskolirc: In any case, as IdleOne informed you, the ban is going to remain in effect for now. You are welcome to return in 24 hours to discuss this issue further. There is also the appeals process if you wish to go that route. In the meantime, please part this channel, re-read the links you have been provided, and think about what has taken place so we can discuss this calmly tomorrow
[03:41] <persia> Note that we *also* have rules about pejorative discrimination for lots of things: but one has to follow the processes to get results for those.
[03:42] <maco> i was only suggesting the lapdance comment contributed to the "trolling" accusations
[03:42] <olskolirc> he said in ubuntu channel i was banned for A YEAR
[03:42] <olskolirc> im writing the fcc too
[03:42] <olskolirc> i work closely with them
[03:42] <persia> olskolirc, You're banned for an indeterminate period.  You are welcome to discuss it here in 24 hours after *everyone* has had time to calm, or raise an appeal.
[03:43] <olskolirc> in 24 hours my ban will be lifted
[03:43] <IdleOne> you asked a question in #ubuntu-offtopic. I answered sarcastically and then told you that this was the proper channel to discuss the ban.
[03:43] <olskolirc> appeal process make sense?
[03:43] <persia> Nobody other than the IRCC is able to address this.  Really.  If you aren't satisfied by your options in this channel, you'll do best to appeal to the IRCC.
[03:43] <olskolirc> and i did and then you told me to come here to #ubuntu-ops IdleOne
[03:43] <persia> In 24 hours you're welcome to discuss it here: there's no guarantee of an automatic lift to the ban.
[03:43] <maco> the word "year" appears nowhere in the log from when you started to when you were removed
[03:43] <olskolirc> giving me the run around
[03:44] <IdleOne> maco: in -ot I did say that
[03:44] <olskolirc> i asked him maco
[03:44] <maco> IdleOne: oh
[03:44] <maco> IdleOne: oy stop making jokes that are gonna be taken seriously
[03:44] <maco> its like the time rww told someone vim was a virus
[03:44] <IdleOne> but also said immediately after that it was not the proper channel to discuss the ban
[03:44] <olskolirc> i can get that text i didn't close any windows
[03:44] <maco> im in that chan too
[03:45] <IdleOne> olskolirc: I am not denying I said it was a year. no need to "get the text"
[03:45] <olskolirc> you people stick up for each other
[03:45] <IdleOne> anyway. I am done with this specific issue for tonight.
[03:45] <persia> Please, maco, IdleOne: if we've said to come back in 24 hours to discuss, let's not discuss now whilst tempers may still be high.
[03:45] <IdleOne> persia: agreed
[03:46] <persia> olskolirc, Please come back in 24 hours, or appeal (or both).  Nothing that happens right now will lead to immediate resolution.
[03:46] <highvoltage> IdleOne: please leave, there is nothing left for you do discuss here at this time
[03:46] <highvoltage> IdleOne: uhm, not you :)
[03:46] <olskolirc> trying to make like that ban was over the word lapdance when that was my kick - when i came back i was banned for participating IN the already offtopic conversation about pronounciations so IdleOne you have pride you were wrong, you know you are wrong but you aren't budging = mental health problem
[03:46] <highvoltage> olskolirc: please leave, there is nothing left for you do discuss here at this time
[03:47] <maco> olskolirc: IdleOne didnt say anything about the lapdance thing. that was me
[03:47] <olskolirc> so don't call it maco
[03:47] <olskolirc> the issues will never be about the word lapdance i was kicked for that im talking about when i came back and didn't do nothing nobody else was already doing
[03:48] <persia> olskolirc, Yes, but you're not talking to anyone who can fix anything right now.
[03:48] <olskolirc> i have my suspecions that IdleOne is a woman beater - he stalked and attacked every line that only I said
[03:48] <persia> Please, come back in 24 hours or lodge an appeal.  There's nothing else that can help currently.
[03:48] <olskolirc> everything was fine until i said i was a girl and then here come IdleOne everything i said was wrong
[03:48] <persia> olskolirc, And be warned, being forced to leave this channel is unlikely to help you when you come back tomorrow.
[03:49] <nhandler> olskolirc: Please /part so that everyone has a chance to think this over and calm down. You can return in 24 hours to discuss it further. There is also the Appeals Process
[03:49] <olskolirc> im doing it just so that it stays on IdleOne record b/c i know you guys don't have the guts to repremand him
[03:49] <persia> We *can't*.
[03:49] <nhandler> Alright, at least now everyone can calm down a bit.
[03:50] <nhandler> Darn
[03:50] <maco> why is it not ok for IdleOne to be sexist, but it is ok to her to be sexist?
[03:50] <maco> i just spotted a "men are stupid" from her in the #ubuntu logs
[03:50] <IdleOne> sorry nhandler but I didn't see any other option but to call ops on that :/
[03:51] <nhandler> No problem IdleOne
[03:52] <persia> maco, It's complicated.  Many folk who choose to perceive themselves as members of oppressed groups somehow don't feel it's bad to pejoratively discriminate against the perceived oppressors: often with phrases along the lines of "turnabout is fair play".  Unfortunate, but the only real resolution is widespread education and cultural change *or* removing the perception of oppression.
[03:53] <persia> There's lots of studies about it in various places: I expect any number of them to at least have abstracts published online.
[03:53] <maco> *pout* howabout nobody's mean to anybody else?
[03:53] <persia> Yep, that's the goal :)
[03:53] <IdleOne> I'll vote for that maco
[03:53] <highvoltage> maco: personally, I doubt that it's really a woman in the first place
[03:54] <persia> Impossible to know.
[03:54] <persia> Pointless to speculate.
[03:55] <IdleOne> you will notice that earlier in here she said she was new but then pulled the " I been online 14 years"
[03:55] <IdleOne> and?
[03:55] <IdleOne> me too
[03:55] <IdleOne> so what!
[03:55] <persia> Let's not discuss the case for 24 hours.
[03:55] <IdleOne> good idea
[03:55] <persia> It can do nothing but prejudice the decision to be taken then.
[03:56] <IdleOne> I think I might let someone else handle it tomorrow when they come back
[03:56] <persia> Might be safer.
[04:18] <nhandler> I noticed that ubottu does not prompt for comments on quiets (even when not set via chanserv). Any thoughts on this matter? Personally, I think that it would be useful (as it encourages OPs to document why the quiet was set). Without the prompts, I doubt most OPs would take the time to set a comment.
[04:21] <persia> How do we typically handle un-quiets?
[04:22] <nhandler> persia: I would think they would follow the same process as a ban. Usually, they are resolved in PM before reaching the part of the process where the user joins this channel
[04:24] <persia> Makes sense.  Do we ever need medium-term quiets (except for the silly one I have to keep maintaining)?
[04:25] <nhandler> persia: It is really up to the OP. Personally, I think that we overuse bans and underuse quiets. Quiets can be just as effective as bans in resolving the problem while allowing the user to remain in the channel. Bans are useful for join spam, blatant bots, users with inappropriate nicks, or other similar cases
[04:26] <persia> If you're promoting a policy of heavier use of quiets, then I think ubottu ought 1) prompt for a reason for the quiet (and track it appropriately), and 2) ask if a quiet would have achieved the goal when a ban is set.
[04:27] <persia> I know that for the ban I'm supposed to maintain, a quiet and a bit of social pressure seems to work better than a ban, because the individual concerned can happily watch what is happening realtime without being involved (or disruptive)
[04:29] <nhandler> persia: Ubottu already tracks quiets on the ban tracker. The prompting for a reason can be enabled with one command. Asking the user if a quiet would have worked instead of a ban is a helpful question, but I think OPs should be encouraged to ask themself that (a bot could get rather annoying)
[04:30] <persia> I guess.  I'm not sure we have a strong enough shared best-practices document that enough of us have really read carefully (as opposed to looked over a couple times).
[04:30] <persia> But that's really a balance between the amount one wishes to promote quiets vs. the amount one is willing to annoy ops.
[04:31] <nhandler> And the idea of using quiets more instead of bans is more of something I'm hoping to try and push. That concept hasn't been used much in the Ubuntu channels (but is used elsewhere on freenode and by freenode staff).
[04:37] <persia> Works for me, I have to say.
[07:53] <persia> Might make sense to restrict that to development channels (ubuntu-dev, ubuntu-motu, ubuntu-mythtv, xubuntu-dev, ubuntustudio-devel, kubuntu-dev, etc.)
[09:19] <DJones> Is anybody around who can deal with #ubuntu at the minute (SailorReality)
[09:19] <popey> seems not
[09:20] <DJones> Ah well
[09:27] <DJones> Looks like they've gone, SailorReality just disconnected, connection reset by peer
[09:29] <persia> That's probably for the best.  Unfortunate 20 minutes though.
[09:30] <DJones> Thanks anyway
[10:13] <bazhang>  [ne0|penguin] (~tinyirc@122.163.18.100   <--- Jungli ?
[10:17] <elky> I can't say I've ever seen anyone else use tinyirc.
[12:09] <jussi> can I add " | I'm on a horse" to the !bot factoid? :D :P
[12:11] <persia> No.
[12:11] <jrib> (persia's on the horse)
[12:12] <jussi> aww
[12:13] <persia> jussi, Fails vanity rules.
[12:13] <jussi> persia: but its ubottu :P
[12:13] <jussi> she is very vain... :P
[12:14] <persia> Not so much anymore.  You stole all her props.
[12:14] <jussi> like this! :D Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | I'm on a horse
[12:14]  * jussi grins
[12:16] <Tm_T> ...
[12:18]  * Tm_T hides from the horse
[12:20] <persia> ubottu on a horse is disturbing
[12:20] <persia> See, she agrees with me.
[12:47] <elky> Heh
[12:48] <elky> Given the historical penchant of ubuntu devs for 'no pony', it only makes sense.
[12:49]  * persia sadly points at libacme-poe-knee-perl breaking the "no pony" rule
[13:01] <jussi> heh
[13:40] <elky> Do I have to answer him. I don't want to answer him.
[13:40] <bazhang> no
[13:40] <elky> Um. I think that answers my question.
[14:35] <bazhang> kamalesh's issue is not making sense. gnome-panel is running and uninstalled at the same time? yet he never removed it? wonder if that is dhanesh
[14:36] <persia> It's perfectly possible to reach that state if there was an explicit removal of something that gnome-panel depends upon, and it hasn't closed yet.
[14:36] <persia> Mind you, it takes a special sort of energy to reach that state, but ...
[16:05] <Pici> The heck? BluesKaj is asking iEatChildren to change his nick in #kubuntu
[16:06] <Pici> er.
[16:08] <IdleOne> I don't see anything really wrong with the nick but I can see how some might not like it
[16:08] <IdleOne> is it worth going to war over? I don't think so
[16:09] <Pici> Yeah. I'm going to leave it alone.
[16:09] <IdleOne> as long as they can both stay civil
[16:22] <Pici> jussi: while you're at it, the !upgrade factoid for Kubuntu looks a bit out-of-date too
[16:22] <Pici> !upgrade-#kubuntu
[16:22] <jussi> hehe
[16:22] <jussi> Ill look
[16:23] <jussi> !no, autostart-#kubuntu is <reply>Use the tool in System Settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Autostart to make programs automatically start in your KDE session. See !boot for managing which services start at boot time
[17:25] <asddff> hi
[17:25] <asddff> please, delete my ban on #kubuntu channel.... I have been banned more than month ago.
[17:26] <asddff> I will be good boy.
[17:27] <asddff> (I was banned without reason)
[17:29] <asddff> Good guys, tell with me. Are you my frands?
[17:30] <IdleOne> asddff: Please be patient and someone will help you soon
[17:33] <IdleOne> Riddell: asddff needs some help with a ban
[17:33] <asddff> Yes. It is me.
[17:34] <asddff> I am here and I am waiting now.
[17:35] <Riddell> what's the question?
[17:35] <asddff> Riddell [20:25] <asddff> please, delete my ban on #kubuntu channel.... I have been banned more than month ago.
[17:37] <Riddell> there's no mention of "asddff" in the #kubuntu logs from August, Sept or Oct
[17:38] <IdleOne> asddff: Do you remember what nick you were using at the time?
[17:39] <IdleOne> Riddell:  BT 28841 nick was petr
[17:41] <Riddell> [14:44] <assnigro> get back mather fucka your money...
[17:41] <Riddell> was that you?
[17:42] <asddff> Riddell  may be may be!  I remember this words... but it is from one american rap song!
[17:43] <asddff> yes... Shame on me... but it was me!
[17:44] <asddff> Riddell You can not delete ban after this words?
[17:45] <Riddell> I don't know how
[17:45] <Riddell> IdleOne: how do I remove a ban?
[17:45] <asddff> [20:44] [474] #kubuntu Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[17:45] <IdleOne> Riddell: /mode -b hostmask
[17:46] <Riddell> IdleOne: how do I know what the hostmask is?
[17:46] <IdleOne> *!*petr@90.155.218.*
[17:47] <h00k> I would, but I don't have op status in #kubuntu
[17:47] <bazhang> me three
[17:47] <IdleOne> me either
[17:47] <Riddell> asddff: try now
[17:48] <asddff> YES MAN!
[17:48] <asddff> thanks
[17:51] <IdleOne> asddff: if there is nothing else, please part this channel and have a good day :)
[17:54] <asddff> IdleOne  I have found out all what I want in #ubuntu channel.... but for future I want to use kubuntu channel... ok? thanks.
[17:55] <IdleOne> asddff: that is fine but there is a no idling rule in this channel. So if there is nothing else you need help with in this channel please /part
[17:56] <asddff> aaaa ))) I did not understand word "part"... part of what?   so... part is command
[17:56] <asddff> I will be here.... sometime
[17:56] <IdleOne> asddff: yes, /part will make you exit this channel
[17:56] <mneptok> asddff: please leave this channel
[17:56] <asddff> why?
[17:57] <mneptok> because ops have asked you.
[17:57] <IdleOne> because we do not allow people to be here without reason
[17:57] <asddff> there are good guys.
[17:57] <IdleOne> your issue has been resolved.
[17:57] <asddff> ok.
[17:57] <IdleOne> thank you
[17:57] <mneptok> if i have to kick you from here, i will also then ban you from #ubuntu and #kubuntu as i will have lost faith in your ability to follow rules.
[17:59] <mneptok> not the sharpest knife in the drawer ...
[18:03] <Tm_T> sorry I wasn't available
[18:04] <IdleOne> we pooled our resources and got it sorted
[18:04] <Tm_T> I notice, thanks for that
[18:46] <maco> uhhhhh
[18:46] <tsimpson> jussi: are we no longer supporting LTS in #kubuntu now? (re !autostart-#kubuntu)
[18:46] <maco> username in #ubuntu.... "pervydick"?
[18:47] <IdleOne> maco he just quit
[18:47] <maco> mmk
[18:47] <IdleOne> but yeah. next time we can ask that he changes it