[00:04] <likemindead> part
[01:07] <arturorene> hello
[01:08] <arturorene> is this channel engish or spanish
[01:08] <arturorene> anybody here
[01:08] <charlie-tca> Hello, arturorene . this is an english channel.
[01:08] <charlie-tca> !es
[01:08] <charlie-tca> You can use whichever one you want to.
[01:10] <arturorene> I will try english
[01:10] <charlie-tca> okay
[01:10] <arturorene> ok, I have a problem
[01:11] <arturorene> I have a mini-netbook
[01:11] <arturorene> with windows CE
[01:11] <arturorene> I need a linux OS for that
[01:11] <arturorene> I am even not sure about the capacity
[01:12] <charlie-tca> Sounds like a good candidate for either the Ubuntu Netbook edition or Xubuntu.
[01:12] <arturorene> I think is less than 1g
[01:12] <charlie-tca> xubuntu might be too much, though
[01:13] <arturorene> that mini came from china, so maybe could be a fake
[01:13] <charlie-tca> Netbook edition is made for those small machines. It tries to keep the display down for them, too.
[01:13] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/
[01:13] <charlie-tca> hmm, could be a fake.
[01:14] <arturorene> I mean, maybe only have 500 mb
[01:14] <arturorene> but I am not sure
[01:15] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu will work, I think. but I think the netbook edition is better, because of the screen size
[01:15] <arturorene> the only access I have is trough windows CE and I don't trust in what it say
[01:16] <charlie-tca> heh, I don't run windows at all, myself
[01:17] <arturorene> because that mini don't have bios. Do you know where can I find any idea on how to install ubuntu?
[01:18] <charlie-tca> let me look
[01:20] <arturorene> this version of ubuntu run on any procesor?
[01:21] <charlie-tca> any intel processor
[01:21] <charlie-tca> !netbook
[01:22] <arturorene> my is ARM
[01:23] <charlie-tca> Take a look at - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes/es
[01:23] <charlie-tca> I think there is a special version for ARM
[01:26] <arturorene> ok
[01:26] <charlie-tca> That should help you to at least find the right version.
[01:27] <arturorene> thank you so much charlie for all your support and help
[01:27] <charlie-tca> you are welcome. Good luck with that mini.
[01:27] <arturorene> thank you again
[04:30] <rick_> hello?
[04:31] <rick_> i just switched from ubuntu to xubuntu (fresh install), and I dont seem to have permissions on my own computer.
[04:31] <rick_> i'm just trying to adjust swappiness and add themes, but it's not working.  anyone know why?
[04:33] <moetunes> are you using   sudo   ?
[04:34] <rick_> yes
[04:34] <rick_> well no, gksudo
[04:36] <moetunes> are you trying to edit a file - gksudo mousepad /path/to/file
[04:38] <rick_> i'm typing gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:38] <rick_> it's not opening with that command though.  when i navigate to the /etc folder manually i can open the config file, but it won't let me save any changes.
[04:38] <moetunes> gedit doesn't come with xubuntu by default - use mousepad instead :]
[04:38] <rick_> let me try that...
[04:39] <rick_> ah, i'm retarded.  thanks buddy!
[04:40] <moetunes> np :]
[04:41] <rick_> last question....I need to make sure I DO NOT put a # before vm.swappiness=10.  correct?
[04:42] <moetunes> correct in a file like that # is a comment
[04:42] <moetunes> which means the line will be ignored
[04:43] <rick_> done. thanks friend. #xubuntu is much more gentlemanly than #ubuntu.  bit of a madhouse on that side.
[04:43] <rick_> have a good night. i'm off.
[04:43] <moetunes> bye
[06:07] <visitor1> is there a place where programms log? my mathemtica doesnt start anymore, i can see a process in top and it starts in terminal but not the usual way
[06:12] <Sysi> maybe something hidden in your home folder or /var/log/
[06:15] <visitor1> cant find, in var log are a lot of different logs
[06:23] <Balsaq> the dew lay heavy upon the remote rainforest canopy known as...xubuntu!
[06:26] <visitor1> tried booting with the last kernel, doesnt start still
[06:26] <visitor1> strange stuff
[09:48] <Rusty49> Sysi, morning
[09:48] <Rusty49> and any other around
[09:49] <Rusty49> need advice!  the top and bottom panels disappeared in the night - how to replace them?
[09:50] <Sysi> !panels
[09:50] <Rusty49> on the desktpo
[09:50] <Rusty49> desktop
[09:51] <Rusty49> they are back - thanx
[09:51] <Rusty49> it helped :-)
[09:52] <Rusty49> any idea what I did to lose them - so I don't do it again?
[09:55] <Rusty49> Sysi, your reference to '!panels' - what do you refer to?
[09:55] <Sysi> ahem?
[09:55] <Sysi> that's common issue
[09:56] <Sysi> bot knows
[09:56] <Rusty49> ooo
[10:01] <Rusty49> Sysi,  can I call up the discussions I have here - as future reference? can I somehow look it up later?
[10:01] <Rusty49> I have saved this one
[10:01] <Sysi> see message you received after joining
[10:01] <Sysi> or query with bot
[10:03] <Rusty49> I have a lot to learn still - do not understand regarding bot
[10:04] <Sysi> /msg ubottu hi
[10:04] <Rusty49> I wanted yesterdays advice again
[10:05] <Sysi> after joining you got message about logging?
[10:05] <bazhang> !1984
[10:05] <Rusty49> I will show you what I got - if it copies
[10:06] <Sysi> i like that "command"..
[10:06] <Rusty49> no - cannot copy
[10:07] <Rusty49> 1st is topic
[10:07] <Rusty49> then welcome
[10:10] <Rusty49> I hear of logging and understand idea, - I am not english speaking + do not know programming
[10:11] <Rusty49> so I do not know where to go or look
[10:11] <Sysi> !1984 | Rusty49
[10:11] <bazhang> Rusty49, the 1984 link above
[10:12] <Rusty49> sorry - what do I do with the 1984 link above?
[10:12] <Sysi> the past is there
[10:12] <bazhang> read it
[10:13] <Rusty49> how do I access it? I do not understand
[10:14] <bazhang> click the link
[10:14] <Rusty49> OK
[10:14] <bazhang> find #xubuntu channel for the date you wish and read
[10:15] <Rusty49> I see it now - thanx
[10:16] <bazhang> welcome
[10:54] <babar_> Hi
[10:54] <babar_> Anyone there?
[10:59]  * knome is hiding
[10:59] <babar_> Can anyone tell me, how to connect to onther pc on LAN?
[10:59] <knome> which way?
[10:59] <knome> browse files? ssh?
[11:00] <babar_> I want to connect with lan
[11:00] <knome> windows or ubuntu?
[11:00] <babar_> I am new to xubuntu
[11:00] <babar_> ubuntu
[11:01] <babar_> I can do it from lubuntu baut not from xubuntu.
[11:01] <babar_> *but
[11:06] <babar_> Can anyone tell me, how to connect to onther pc on LAN?
[11:11] <TheSheep> babar_: 'connect' in what way?
[11:12] <TheSheep> babar_: you can ssh into it, for example
[11:12] <babar_> I want to browse files
[11:14] <TheSheep> ok, use system->gigolo
[11:15] <babar_> Then
[11:15] <babar_> Then?
[11:15] <TheSheep> switch to the 'network' tab in it, and you should see the computers listed
[11:17] <babar_> I could not find any network tab.
[11:19] <TheSheep> on the left side of the panel
[11:19] <TheSheep> vertical tabs
[11:21] <TheSheep> babar_: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/gigolo.png
[11:27] <babar_> TheSheep: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10152010-042233pm.php
[11:31] <TheSheep> babar_: which xubuntu is it?
[11:31] <babar_> 10.10
[11:31] <TheSheep> enable the side panel with view->side panel
[11:33] <babar_> Oh!
[11:33] <babar_> Thanks. I have got that.
[11:35] <TheSheep> sorry, I have a little non-default settings
[12:24] <Ileden_> How can I install encoding support for MP3 - i would like to convert some files from my ogg music collection to mp3. I've tried sox, ffmpeg, soundconverter, all fail. I've added the medibuntu repositories, and installed lame.
[12:28] <bazhang> sound converter failed?
[12:29] <TheSheep> I think you need the gstreamer-something
[12:29] <TheSheep> !mp3
[13:13] <Ileden> bazhang: soundconverter said "lame" element not found, disabling MP3
[13:13] <bazhang> Ileden, tried installing lame?
[13:14] <Ileden> yes, same message
[13:14] <Ileden> but I'll read through the RestrictedFormats... funny i never encountered that with my googling
[13:14] <bazhang> libmp3lame0  that installed ?
[13:16] <evtl> why my xubuntu did not update to 10.10? :c thought it ask me if i want to?
[13:17] <evtl> (support in german prefered)
[13:17] <evtl> :>
[13:17] <bazhang> !de
[13:17] <evtl> ty
[13:17] <bazhang> check to make sure it does not check for LTS only
[13:18] <Sysi> if your current system works, i recommend staying in it
[13:18] <evtl> it hang up after a few min viewing a video
[13:19] <evtl> :(
[13:19] <evtl> first time i use linux
[13:19] <Ileden> wow, thats pretty bad. and unusual
[13:20] <evtl> that hanging or that i use linux but now
[13:20] <Ileden> bazhang: i'll try installing the whole set from xubuntu-restricted-extras, see if that does the job
[13:20] <Ileden> evtl: hanging :)
[13:20] <evtl> ^^
[13:21] <evtl> where i can check the options for LTS?
[13:21] <bazhang> update-manager?
[13:22] <Ileden> evtl: system->update manager
[13:23] <evtl> think i found it
[13:24] <Ileden> evtl: did that fix the issue? does your system now ask if you want to upgrade to 10.10?
[13:25] <evtl> had to restart
[13:25] <evtl> :(
[13:27] <evtl> yeah found it
[13:29] <evtl> should i install a antivirusprogram? if yes, which?
[13:29] <bazhang> evtl, no need
[13:30] <evtl> but i heard of more virus?
[13:30] <evtl> :x
[13:30] <bazhang> no
[13:31] <evtl> k
[13:32] <Sysi> you basically *can't* get your linux broken/unsafe if you don't browse internet logged in as root and install random software from internet
[13:41] <Ileden> nobody cares to write linux viruses. The platform is more secure so it's harder, and it has minimal amount of users. Compare this to the wide open world of silly windows users who click through any security warning - its just so much worth the effort
[13:41] <Sysi> i'm almost eagerly waiting for first osx-viruses
[13:42] <evtl> ^^
[13:42] <evtl> this is my windows 7 pc :x
[13:42] <Sysi> i have 7 installed but i forgot it often, never using it
[13:42] <Ileden> Nothing (technically) wrong with Windows 7, as long as you know what you're doing.
[13:43] <Sysi> but usability..
[13:43] <evtl> all in all i like win7
[13:43] <bazhang> and DRM..
[13:43] <Ileden> like, not open random attachments, and install whatever programs you encounter from the net
[13:43] <evtl> much more than vista
[13:43] <evtl> and xp
[13:43] <Ileden> bazhang: yes, that's more of an ethical than technical problem.
[13:43] <Sysi> i could use 7, i don't want to
[13:44] <Sysi> Ileden: it can be technical problem
[13:45] <evtl> the main reason for me is, that iam not so ambitious to make alle programs i need run on linux^^
[13:45] <Ileden> Sysi: well, it of course could be if implemented wrong. but as long as it does what's intended, its an ethical problem to me
[13:46] <Ileden> probably the best "security" feature of linux is that software is installed from verified packages via unified package management.
[13:46] <Sysi> i wish DRM worked always as it should
[13:46] <Ileden> Sysi: well, i don't think it's very broken in Win7... thouhg not really an expert on that
[13:47] <Sysi> not very badly i think
[13:47] <Ileden> TheSheep: Hey! thanks for the restrictedformats link, ffmpeg started to work!
[13:48] <Ileden> bazhang: could be what i was missing was the library you suggested, which probably was includedn in the restricteformats package.
[13:48] <bazhang> Ileden, could be
[14:41] <Dortmunter> hi
[14:42] <Dortmunter> what is the minimal ram requested to instalel xubuntu ?
[14:42] <evtl> my laptop has 500
[14:42] <evtl> mb
[14:42] <bazhang> 256?
[14:42] <charlie-tca> and let it work - 256MB for one app at a time
[14:43] <Dortmunter> how would it work with 256?
[14:43] <Dortmunter> ok
[14:43] <charlie-tca> slow
[14:43] <Dortmunter> thanks
[15:27] <willie_> Hello
[15:28] <Guest43297> Hello
[15:31] <likemindead> facepalm.png
[15:42] <evtl> my system crashes after nearly 2min of viewing a video, and idea why?
[15:43] <vidd> evtl, how much ram?
[15:43] <evtl> ~500
[15:43] <vidd> and is it your system or the video play that crashes?
[15:43] <evtl> the system
[15:44] <evtl> freezed screen
[15:44] <vidd> does the data dump tell you anything?
[15:44] <vidd> oh....
[15:44] <vidd> thats not a "chrash"
[15:45] <evtl> now trying VLC
[15:45] <evtl> hm
[15:45] <evtl> crashed after 4 sec
[15:45] <evtl> not crashed <.<
[15:45] <evtl> freezed
[15:45] <vidd> how many applications are you running?
[15:45] <evtl> only the video
[15:46] <evtl> i installed linux a few days ago
[15:46] <vidd> what kind of video are you trying to view?
[15:46] <evtl> and did nothing with it
[15:46] <evtl> .avi
[15:46] <evtl> just updated it
[15:46] <vidd> did you install the .avi plugin for your viewer? (dunno if .avi plugin is installed by default)
[15:46] <evtl> if not i wouldnt be able to view it or?
[15:47] <vidd> i use gxine to view videos because its the lightest player that i found....
[15:48] <vidd> how does your system resources look without the video player running?
[15:49] <evtl> where can i see it with linux?
[15:49] <vidd> applications->system->system monitor
[15:50] <evtl> only one proces sis running
[15:50] <evtl> the system monitor^^
[15:50] <evtl> ~15-20%
[15:50] <vidd> i dont care about that....
[15:51] <vidd> on the resouces tab....
[15:51] <vidd> memory and swap
[15:51] <evtl> 32,2% 150/465
[15:51] <evtl> swap 0/1,3GB
[15:52] <vidd> memory is at 32%
[15:52] <evtl> yes
[15:53] <vidd> now...launch your video player (dont select the video to play, just open the player)
[15:53] <evtl> 34%
[15:53] <evtl> with VLC 33,5%
[15:54] <vidd> run the video in windowed mode (not fullscreen)
[15:54] <evtl> 46%
[15:55] <vidd> and is it freezing?
[15:55] <evtl> not yet
[15:56] <evtl> runs longer then before
[15:56] <evtl> than*
[15:57] <vidd> i always have better video experience on light-weight machines running windowed mode over fullscreen
[15:57] <vidd> heh...all i have are light-weight machines =]
[15:58] <vidd> you may also want to look at the CPU section of your system monitor for spikes there
[15:59] <evtl> spikes?
[15:59] <vidd> ummm....
[16:00] <vidd> spikes are when the usage jumps high
[16:00] <evtl> are
[16:00] <evtl> a
[16:00] <evtl> ahh
[16:00] <evtl> ^^
[16:00] <evtl> now it works
[16:00] <evtl> hmm
[16:03] <vidd> were you watching in fullscreen b4?
[16:04] <evtl> no
[16:04] <evtl> i'll do it if iam able to see the whole film now
[16:04] <evtl> to test
[16:07] <vidd> then its the "tech phenomenon" ....
[16:07] <vidd> everything works while the tech is there =]
[16:07] <evtl> hmm
[16:07] <evtl> freezed
[16:07] <evtl> 10:27min
[16:08] <vidd> ok....
[16:08] <vidd> what did system monitor show
[16:08] <evtl> nothing special
[16:08] <evtl> like before
[16:08] <vidd> and was it the whole screen that froze or the video that froze?
[16:09] <evtl> the system freezes
[16:09] <evtl> cant move the mouse
[16:09] <vidd> it could be a bad file
[16:09] <evtl> the video?
[16:10] <vidd> right
[16:10] <evtl> i watched different videos
[16:10] <evtl> and on this computer inwatched them
[16:10] <evtl> and it worked
[16:11] <vidd> so on this system, no issues...and on the problem machine all videos freeze?
[16:11] <evtl> yes
[16:11] <evtl> all .avi
[16:11] <evtl> youtube works
[16:11] <vidd> or just this one vid
[16:11] <evtl> (but laggy)
[16:11] <vidd> youtube is flv
[16:12] <vidd> different file type
[16:12] <vidd> !avi
[16:13] <evtl> maybe i find some .flv
[16:13] <evtl> ill try it
[16:13] <evtl> .mpg
[16:20] <evtl> .mpg feezes too
[16:24] <vidd> evtl, dunno what to say....
[16:25] <evtl> ?
[16:25] <evtl> coz im stupid or dunnoi how to help me with the problem?
[16:25] <vidd> dunno what to do to fix issue
[16:26] <evtl> ^^
[16:26] <evtl> maybe another linux version?
[16:26] <vidd> they "it works" system...what OS is on it?
[16:26] <evtl> win7^^
[16:27] <vidd> ok
[16:27] <vidd> so it probably is a plugin issue
[16:27] <evtl> with avi & mpg
[16:27] <evtl> ?
[16:27] <vidd> i dont know how to install the plugins for the video players you use....
[16:28] <evtl> ^^
[16:28] <vidd> i use gxine and libxine plugins and have no problems
[16:28] <vidd> but "standard" *buntu use gstreamer plugins
[16:28] <evtl> i searched for gxine but found no exe :x
[16:28] <evtl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gxine
[16:28] <evtl> ?
[16:29] <chowder> I want to create a custom session that shows up everytime I log in. I installed gnome-shell and I'd basically like to be able to choose between a "gnome-shell session" and an xfce session
[16:30] <chowder> I want to use gnome-shell as my window manager but I'd like to keep using thunar and my existing program
[16:30] <chowder> sorry, mistyped
[16:30] <chowder> does anyone have any advice?
[16:31] <vidd> "sudo apt-get install gxine"
[16:33] <vidd> and "sudo apt-get install libxine1-all-plugins
[16:34] <vidd> evtl, you may need to add universe and multiverse sources
[16:35] <vidd> evtl, as an aside...windows OS's dont play most video codex out-of-the-box either
[16:42] <evtl> so
[16:42] <evtl> now gxine
[16:43] <evtl> :(
[16:43] <evtl> freezing
[16:44] <vidd> evtl, now im REALLY at a loss
[16:45] <evtl> "you may need to add universe and multiverse sources"
[16:45] <evtl> i didnt do it
[16:45] <evtl> maybe it helps?
[16:45] <vidd> no....
[16:45] <evtl> hm :/
[16:45] <evtl> maybe i should try another distribution?
[16:45] <vidd> those sources are for getting applications not in the "main" repos
[16:46] <vidd> evtl, im suspecting the files may be at cause
[16:46] <vidd> you can try another distribution, but i suspect you will have the same issues
[16:46] <Sysi> in a what way it freezes, what graphics card?
[16:47] <evtl> just a freezed screen
[16:47] <Sysi> nothing moves?
[16:47] <evtl> i tried 5 vids
[16:47] <evtl> nothing
[16:48] <Sysi> something on ~/.xsession-errors ?
[16:49] <evtl> where i find that?
[16:49] <TheSheep> in your home directory
[16:49] <TheSheep> it's a file
[16:50] <Sysi> ~/ for home
[16:50] <evtl> there is just the userfolder
[16:52] <vidd> evtl, click "view" "show hidden"
[16:52] <evtl> yeah, nothing^^
[16:52] <evtl> ah
[16:52] <evtl> in the userfolder
[16:52] <evtl> :>
[16:53] <evtl> xsession-errors.old
[16:53] <evtl> do u want it?
[16:54] <Sysi> you could pastebin it
[16:54] <evtl> i do it
[16:55] <evtl> http://nopaste.info/2846c9fc13.html
[16:57] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek next session in 4 minutes -
[16:57] <charlie-tca> session is "Have you tried turning it off and then on again?"
[16:57] <charlie-tca> This should be a great session!
[17:04] <Sysi> evtl: i can't see exact problem, but lots of warnings
[17:07] <evtl> :/
[17:21] <xubuntu385> привет всем!
[17:21] <Sysi> !ru
[17:22] <vidd> Sysi, your ability to recognize languages amazes me =]
[17:22] <Sysi> :D
[17:23] <charlie-tca> me too
[20:04] <saul> Hi is anyone here that can help me with some problems I am having with my xubuntu?
[20:05] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[20:06] <Sysi> all of us.
[20:07] <saul> ok I can not get the log in and log out sound to work on my Dell laptop can you tell me where I go to enable log in sounds? I already have gone to the log in screen properties and ticked the box that says enable log in sounds but still it is silent when I start up xubuntu
[20:10] <saul> Also can you tell me where I would go to find where you can select even sounds like the error wave or any other wave or ogg sound event files?
[20:17] <saul> guess not
[21:23] <aubrey616> i verified a problem with 10.10 in #ubuntu, the wireless driver ath9k for atheros wireless pci is somewhat faulty
[21:23] <aubrey616> anyone else recognized this problem ?
[23:02] <Sivarts> I have a problem: My computer has onboard intel video and I want to use a pci nvidia card -- problem is bios doesn't let you disable onboard, but lets you set the priority of PCI card to be higher - this results in a kernel panic crash when I try to boot any kind of linux because it sees both cards. How can I make it only see my PCI card and not my onboard?
[23:06] <Sysi> maybe if you blacklisted intel driver(s)
[23:07] <Sivarts> Sysi so my understanding is install Xubuntu with onboard, blacklist intel?, put in new video card, switch bios to make video card higher priority and boot up with monitor connected to new card?
[23:07] <Sivarts> do I need to install any nvidia drivers before I put in the card?
[23:07] <Sivarts> and what module do I blacklist, I tried intel_agp and that didn't seem todo it
[23:09] <Sysi> nvidia should work somewhat well by default
[23:10] <Sysi> you could maybe somehow see from livecd what driver is used
[23:10] <Sivarts> kk any idea how to tell?
[23:31] <Sysi> i really don't know, but after thinking, something with modprobe or lsof might work like that