[00:10] <connor_> Hey, i have a question. Sometimes when im palying music with Amarok, my computer will freeze. However, it will only freeze my screen, and not my mouse. My mouse will work and move as normal, but will not be able to interact with anything. Is there anyway to prevent this or recover from the problem?
[00:12] <connor__> it just happened again
[00:13] <connor__> Im sorry, i just crashed again.  Did anyone answer?
[00:14] <jakent> that happens to me when i have a kernel panic
[00:15] <connor__> oh? and how can i avoid that?
[00:15] <jakent> mine was hardware related... so i went with a different usb device
[00:16] <jakent> err usb networking device
[00:16] <connor__> Oh
[00:16] <connor__> Would this hardware issue be present in Windows? It does not occur anywhere except for Kubuntu
[00:17] <jakent> so, for me, it was the driver causing the kernel panic.  Driver would be different in windows
[00:18] <jakent> if it occurs only when playing music, maybe sound card drivers?
[00:18] <connor__> Ah, ok i understand now.  I think it is most likely my graphics card, as when im playing music, the music still continues through the freeze.  So my new question would be, how do i install a nVidia Driver?
[00:18] <jakent> hrm, its been a while, but I was able to install it through the packages
[00:19] <jakent> i don't remember more than that
[00:19] <connor__> So in KPackageKit?
[00:19] <serverbox> Need help
[00:19] <jakent> let me open up my Kubuntu vm
[00:20] <jakent> i had a "hardware Drivers" option, not through the KPackageKit
[00:22] <connor_> Ok, i found it, Thank You.  Only time can tell now if i will freeze again.  Wish me luck :D
[00:22] <jakent> good luck, hope it helps
[00:24] <valoriez> connor_: you can always run amarok from the console
[00:24] <valoriez> amarok -d --nofork
[00:24] <connor_> What do you mean?
[00:24] <valoriez> and see what the output is, when it's freezing
[00:24] <connor_> oh so you mean ALT+f1
[00:24] <valoriez> I mean, rather than starting it by clicking the icon
[00:24] <connor_> Oh,
[00:25] <valoriez> I'm not sure alt+f1 gives you a readout
[00:25] <connor_> Actually, now that i think about it.  I froze it in the same way when i was clicking too much in the file browser.
[00:25] <valoriez> I think you have to start a console
[00:26] <valoriez> either konsole, yatatuake (sp?) or control+alt+f5 ?
[00:26] <valoriez> not sure ont eh f key
[00:26] <connor_> Ah ok, ill try that.
[00:26] <valoriez> I use konsole
[00:26] <valoriez> there is LOTS of output
[00:26] <connor_> yeah, ok
[00:26] <valoriez> but when it's freezing, if it is
[00:27] <valoriez> you might get a clue that way
[00:37] <smooph1> hi guys ... I have a question ... I use Kubuntu in a dual-monitor setup and I very often move windows to the edge of one monitor ... but if i do that the shadow of that window is shown on the other desktop
[00:38] <smooph1> is there a way to prevent that ?
[00:44] <connor_> smooph1, apart from completely turning off shadows, there may be an app for that.  Look up "dual monitors" or even "monitors" in KPackageKit
[01:13] <LOGAN> hi
[01:15] <DebianNeuling> hallo
[01:16] <LOGAN> is for a laptop bettere to use Kubuntu than Ubuntu?
[01:16] <LOGAN> Im a linux noob but was trying to try one through windows install to not mess with windows
[01:17] <valoriez> logan, it's a matter of taste
[01:17] <valoriez> if you like KDE more than Gnome, you'll like Kubuntu
[01:18]  * valoriez is using kubuntu 10.10 on a laptop right now
[01:18] <valoriez> and I love it
[01:18] <valoriez> Everything Works
[01:18] <LOGAN> And while Ubuntu Live was ok I seem to have issues with installing. then not finding boot drive then finally worked and tried to install flash plugin for firefox and stuck on 6^ till screen went black with a unresponsive text select cursor
[01:18] <valoriez> when it was a dual boot, windows was fine
[01:19] <valoriez> I'm not enough of an expert to guide you through an install, however
[01:20] <LOGAN> I start wondering what I did wrong, lol. It seems harder than windows to me unfortionly, asked for help in Ubuntu, but got no response. been trying for a few hours already, so I thought meybe deinstall ubuntu and try kubuntu to see if it makes a difference
[01:21] <LOGAN> I did in windows install not to mess with partitions etc
[01:22] <LOGAN> now it didn't boot into ubuntu, just a black screen and a cursor
[01:22] <LOGAN> could be an in windows install issue, I don't know
[01:22] <valoriez> sorry, phone
[01:24] <LOGAN> and I don't really understand the difference bewtween the ubuntu and kubuntu, well they look different, lol
[01:26] <valoriez> sorry, phone
[01:26] <endafy>  I need a Winiso replacement for Ubuntu, I need to be able to edit ISO files, not ruin the boot sectors of the ISO 9664 filesystem, have a decent interface (gtk or QT it doesn't matter) build ISO files, and burn them all in one nifty little package like Winiso
[01:28] <endafy> k3b does a decent job of making images, but I really need something that can edit them on the fly like Winiso
[01:30] <valoriez> endafy: Qt, not QT, which is QuickTime
[01:30] <LOGAN> im taking a break for now, gonna tatch some tv . thanks for the time
[01:30] <valoriez> LOGAN: ubuntu runs the Gnome desktop
[01:30] <valoriez> and apps
[01:30] <valoriez> Kubuntu runs the KDE desktop, and apps
[01:31] <valoriez> you can use the other desktop's apps
[01:31] <valoriez> but in general, choose the one with the apps you like the most
[01:31] <endafy> if it were quicktime I would have specified, linux is not OSX
[01:31] <valoriez> endafy: sure, but it's Qt
[01:31] <valoriez> anyway, dinnertime!
[01:31] <endafy> and GTK != Gnome
[01:32] <valoriez> correct, that's true
[01:32] <endafy> I just want to be able to edit ISO files without mounting them as a loop because it messes with the 9660 and 9664 boot sectors if you edit it
[01:33] <endafy> and I have to completely rebbuild the ISO
[01:49] <LOGAN> somehow I start to suspect part of the trouble is that my internet connection is wimping out on me all the time
[01:49] <LOGAN> weird..
[01:50] <LOGAN> must be something in linux as windows seems ok, fast and stable
[01:56] <LOGAN> meh had connection again, tried installing Blender and poof, connection lost, also mouse not moving anymore.
[01:56]  * LOGAN cries
[01:58] <LOGAN> booting back to windows and removing again, for now I stick to Live CD
[01:58] <LOGAN> unless live CD is acting up as well nowadays
[01:59] <LOGAN> thanks for the support, Ill look into it again at another time
[02:24] <Tim_B> Hi all. Anyone know if there has been any progress on the Xinerama causign X to segfault on qt applications? I've been dead in the water since the upgrade to 10.10 :-/
[02:43] <slooksterpsv> KSudoku crashes/freezes on me when I try to select a different game such as 16x16 or 25x25
[02:44] <LOGAN> has kubuntu the minimize, mazimize and close buttons on the top right side of the windows?
[02:48] <valoriez> LOGAN: I believe you can set that up in systemsettings
[02:49] <valoriez> but the default is top right
[02:50] <slooksterpsv> hi all I'm having trouble with KSudoku crashing/hanging when I select a puzzle that is 25x25 or 16x16, can anyone assist?
[02:51] <valoriez> slooksterpsv: have you filed a bug?
[02:51] <slooksterpsv> valoriez: i have not
[02:51] <valoriez> dr. konqui should pop up for you
[02:51] <valoriez> and offer to add debug packages if needed
[02:51] <slooksterpsv> that doesn't pop-up it just hangs and then I tell it to terminate
[02:51] <valoriez> it's worth the time if you are willing to do so
[02:52] <valoriez> oh, that sucks
[02:52] <slooksterpsv> I am, is there a way I can invoke it when running the program?
[02:52] <valoriez> have you tried running it from Konsole, to see what happens?
[02:52] <slooksterpsv> like you can do with valgrind
[02:53] <slooksterpsv> yeah all I receive is a warning about i-bus
[02:53] <valoriez> well, you can run it in gdb
[02:54] <slooksterpsv> can not get i-bus daemon's address
[02:54] <valoriez>  http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Debugging_(documentation) <--- this is amarok documentation
[02:54] <valoriez> but it should work in much the same way
[02:55] <valoriez> !bug
[02:55] <valoriez> or you can do it against kubuntu, this way ^^^
[02:56] <LOGAN> ah thanks valoriez because Ubuntu has recently switched those to the top left and needs trickery to make them correct again. Not very nice. Anyway it kept crashing so ill check out kubuntu tomorrow
[02:56] <valoriez> cool, LOGAN
[02:56] <bazhang> LOGAN, not much trickery involved, there is a clear command to change it, or just change the theme even
[02:57] <LOGAN> bazhang: if I show a live cd at friends I want it as simple and good as possible by default :)
[02:58] <LOGAN> try explain to windows users that setting something as trivial as those buttons, lol
[02:58] <LOGAN> most people I know would have given up already when Im still fighting these things :D
[02:59] <LOGAN> lets hope its not an hardware issue Im having though
[02:59] <slooksterpsv> ok so it's not crashing, it's just taking a lot of time to generate the puzzle lol
[02:59] <slooksterpsv> sorry :(
[02:59] <valoriez> the problem I have with the liveCD is it is slow
[02:59] <valoriez> slooksterpsv: that's the problem with gdb
[02:59] <LOGAN> well seems like I created MOTAS in less time :P
[02:59] <valoriez> s l o w
[03:00] <LOGAN> ok I lied, MOTAS took like 9 years LOL
[03:00] <LOGAN> (not fulltime ofcourse)
[03:01]  * LOGAN gets coffee
[03:03] <LOGAN> well I do run linux... my HD media player as well as my eReader run some flavor of linux
[03:17] <conduitConvectio> So, I'm having issues with usb-creator-kde where it says my USB stick needs to be formatted...but it IS formatted, and clicking 'format' just makes the program unresponsive for a while.
[03:17] <LOGAN> have you tried formatting fat 32 in windows?
[03:17] <LOGAN> the USB stick that is :)
[03:18] <LOGAN> many USB sticks come out of the box formatted in FAT :/
[03:18] <conduitConvectio> Which is logical I guess
[03:19] <LOGAN> hmm and I always doublecheck if I selected the correct device , lol, just to be sure
[03:20] <conduitConvectio> Yeah, I've done that.
[03:20] <LOGAN> how large is your USB stick btw?
[03:21] <conduitConvectio> 4GB
[03:21] <valoriez> mine is vfat, and the app worked fine
[03:21] <LOGAN> that should be enough (without huge persistant)
[03:21] <valoriez> faster than a CD
[03:22] <LOGAN> vfat?? Hmm maybe I confused. I used Universal USB installer 1.8.0.5
[03:24] <valoriez> it didn't mention formatting, and it worked fine
[03:25] <valoriez> I made the bootable usb in lucid
[03:25] <valoriez> and used it to install Maverick
[05:29] <ze_> olá
[05:47] <mjay> hello
[05:49] <mjay> can anybody help me how to put split files back into one file?
[05:50] <mjay> i have this downloaded files which are in zip files
[05:59] <slooksterpsv> hmmm so are they like zip.part1 zip.part2, etc.?
[05:59] <slooksterpsv> mjay ?
[06:00] <mjay> i dont know
[06:01] <mjay> the files have like .ro0 to .ro21 extensions
[06:01]  * Islington is away: Gone away for now
[06:02] <mjay> but the icons show files in archive or in zip folder each
[06:02] <mjay> its actually a movie file
[06:03] <mjay> i've already unzip all files but i'm hoping that i can get them altogether into 1 file
[06:04] <mjay> slooksterpsv: do you know how to do it?
[06:05] <slooksterpsv> .ro? weird
[06:05] <mjay> yup
[06:05] <mjay> wait
[06:05] <mjay> im going to look at the files again
[06:06] <slooksterpsv> can you download winrar on wine and use it to extract the ro files? winrar can do it
[06:08] <mjay> how is it done?
[06:09] <mjay> i have looked at the files again and yeah the files are with .r00 to .r47 extensions
[06:22] <powered-by-linux> hi , all ; )
[06:25] <powered-by-linux> I'm using (Hardy) updated version of Kubuntu on a Dell Laptop, the udated version is awesome cause it had the proper wi-fi on the iso : )  tho I really really want it on my desktop!, so my question is as follows=
[06:27] <powered-by-linux> can I connect the laptop up as a network to get the packages I want, as the adapter for the desktop is not linux friendly : )
[06:27] <slooksterpsv> powered-by-linux let me read through that again I got confused
[06:27] <valoriez> the adaptor?
[06:27] <slooksterpsv> mjay where did you download the file from?
[06:28] <valoriez> I mean, adapter
[06:28] <slooksterpsv> like share your internet connection from wifi to ethernet?
[06:28] <valoriez> you can certainly download an .iso on one computer, and us it on another
[06:29]  * Islington is back.
[06:29] <valoriez> you can even use Windows to install kubuntu
[06:29] <valoriez> with Wubi
[06:29] <mjay> from torrent
[06:31] <slooksterpsv> it almost looks like archive manager (file-roller I believe it's called) will extract it
[06:31] <powered-by-linux> yes I have installed linux on it before, but as I can't get on the net with it, can't pick my packages, hmm wubi eh?, hmmm **thinks**
[06:32] <slooksterpsv> oh yeah absolutely powered-by-linux - you'd just add the cd that you burn the iso to as a source in software center, though I'd recommend a reformat and reinstall
[06:33] <powered-by-linux> can I burn an iso using (k3b) or something, that will keep all the packages I choose, like the way I set up the laptop?
[06:33] <valoriez> you mean you can get on the net with it now
[06:33] <valoriez> but not with linux?
[06:34] <mjay> extract it and bind all the files into one file?
[06:34] <alesan> Hi! I do not see how to upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04
[06:35] <slooksterpsv> mjay do you have file-roller on your computer?
[06:35] <valoriez> alesan: what are you using to upgrade?
[06:35] <mjay> i dont think so
[06:35] <valoriez> kpackagekit?
[06:35] <mjay> only ark
[06:35] <alesan> valoriez, kpackagekit?
[06:36] <slooksterpsv> mjay - download file-roller it's a gnome item, but works wonders, otherwise, you'll need wine + winrar
[06:36] <alesan> oh ok I need to vi /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[06:36] <valoriez> have you updated recoently?
[06:36] <alesan> and set it to normal
[06:36] <valoriez> you have to do all updates first
[06:36] <alesan> valoriez, of course
[06:36] <valoriez> before upgrading
[06:36] <mjay> how to do it with a sudo command?
[06:36] <alesan> yes of course
[06:36] <valoriez> sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <valoriez> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:37] <mjay> slooksterpsv: how to do it with a sudo command?
[06:37] <valoriez> but kpackagekit should have a choice up in the top bar once everything is updated
[06:38] <alesan> ok thanks!
[06:38] <alesan> I close everything while it performs the upgrade
[06:38] <alesan> bye!
[06:38] <slooksterpsv> mjay - sudo apt-get install file-roller
[06:38] <mjay> slooksterpsv: ok thanks
[06:38] <powered-by-linux> thx alot  for the ideas, I'll try a few things, I do know getting the packages seperately is useless, as some need 40 to 50 dependcies, which would take forever haha!
[06:39] <slooksterpsv> valoriez - question, when I log into Gnome it doesn't give me the window borders on the windows, I have Ubuntu but installed kubuntu-desktop from the repos, would that have affected that?
[06:39] <valoriez> slooksterpsv: in 10.04 ?
[06:40]  * valoriez didn't have good luck with that combo in 10.04
[06:40] <valoriez> didn't try it in 10.10
[06:40] <valoriez> I did a clean install
[06:40] <valoriez> straight kubuntu
[06:40] <maco> slooksterpsv: if you run "metacity --replace" from a terminal in gnome, that should bring the borders back
[06:41] <valoriez> I've had trouble with the kde-on-top-of-ubuntu
[06:41] <valoriez> although lots of people have great luck with that
[06:41] <valoriez> and switch back and forth
[06:41] <valoriez> about to restart, however
[06:42] <slooksterpsv> ok perfect
[06:42] <slooksterpsv> I'm liking Kubuntu now, but I like my Gnome; I just need a 64-bit lxde and I'll be set =P
[06:43] <slooksterpsv> **Lubuntu 64-bit, not just lxde lol
[06:43]  * slooksterpsv shakes head for being so confusing.
[06:45] <slooksterpsv> what do you guys use for your default music players?
[06:45] <chris062689> Amarok
[06:45] <chris062689> I was looking for something like foobar2000
[06:45] <chris062689> I saw a program (Qt) that looked a lot like it on reddit.
[06:45] <slooksterpsv> haven't used foobar2000
[06:45] <chris062689> Let me see if I can find it again.
[06:46] <chris062689> foobar2000 (windows-only) is a very minimalistic music player, but it rocks.
[06:46] <slooksterpsv> was it... guayadec or sommat like that
[06:46] <chris062689> Not sure
[06:46] <chris062689> Something about.. meat?
[06:46] <chris062689> o_0
[06:47] <slooksterpsv> lol
[06:47] <slooksterpsv> I use Exaile, I like Exaile, it's small light and built with python
[06:47] <chris062689> Ah, found it
[06:47] <chris062689> http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/
[06:47] <slooksterpsv> hahaha, I thought you were joking about meat wow that's good, have you tried a cli audio player?
[06:47] <chris062689> Hmm... I thoguht it had a Qt interface...
[06:48] <chris062689> never used one.
[06:48] <chris062689> though I think deadbeef is a console app as well
[06:48] <chris062689> I haven't used it, I just think it looks a lot like foobar2000
[06:49] <chris062689> I'm abotu to install Kubuntu 10.10
[06:49] <chris062689> I always love KDE / Kubuntu, but for some reason I always go back to Windows. :S
[06:50] <chris062689> Not sure why, just find things easier to do there, I've been with Ubuntu / Kubuntu / OpenSuSE (and other linux distros) since about 2004 though
[06:50] <chris062689> Just always found Windows easier to use.
[06:50] <chris062689> Perhaps I Just haven't had enough time to let it sink in ;)
[06:50] <chris062689> anyway, be back later.
[06:51] <DarkriftX> how do i connect to a wifi network via command line?
[07:01] <slooksterpsv> Darkriftx you still here?
[07:02] <Kalidarn> hmm, for some reason every now and again my control, alt, super, tab and shit keys just 'stop working'
[07:02] <Kalidarn> unplugging the keyboard and replacing it fixes the problem
[07:02] <slooksterpsv> DarkriftX - You type in: sudo iwconfig essid "yournetworkname" key "ifyouhaveakey" or that
[07:03] <slooksterpsv> Kalidarn - what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[07:03] <Kalidarn> i'm using Kubuntu 10.10, with KDE 4.5.2, I have the latest version of VMWare Workstation open 7.1.2 build-301548
[07:03] <Kalidarn> i've tried googling about for answers but have had trouble finding stuff relevant
[07:03] <Kalidarn> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=45359 i did see this
[07:04] <Kalidarn> but i had been using gnome for quite a few months and have not ever experienced this once
[07:04] <slooksterpsv> Kalidarn - not sure... I'd post on Ubuntuforums.org and see if someone can help you out, unless someone in here knows what to do
[07:05] <Kalidarn> im wondering what log i should look in
[07:05] <Kalidarn> kdm.log?
[07:05] <Kalidarn> or perhaps the xorg log
[07:05] <Kalidarn> i didn't see anything in dmesg or messages
[07:10] <slooksterpsv> not sure...
[07:16] <Kalidarn> slooksterpsv: it appears kubuntu doesn't have a forum on ubuntuforus.com
[07:16] <Kalidarn> forums
[07:17] <migumi> slooksterpsv: hey, still it wont work.
[07:17] <migumi> the archiver thingy
[07:18] <Kalidarn> a general help looks like the place to post
[07:18] <slooksterpsv> migumi oh ok, try winrar in wine
[07:19] <slooksterpsv> Kalidarn - Ubuntuforums they do issues with anything Ubuntu pretty much, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and as of lately even Lubuntu, posting there won't hurt at all I've posted issues on Lubuntu and been able to get them resolved, same with Kubuntu, plus it's better than the IRC cause if someone searches for a resolution to the same issue you're is posted if you resolve it
[07:20] <migumi> what is that? not that used to kubuntu terms
[07:20] <migumi> all i know is winrar in windows
[07:21] <migumi> what is wine?
[07:21] <maco> migumi: wine is a compatibility layer that lets you run some windows apps with varying degrees of working
[07:21] <slooksterpsv> !wine
[07:21] <slooksterpsv> WINE = WINE Is Not Emulation
[07:21] <slooksterpsv> !virtualizers > slooksterpsv
[07:21] <maco> slooksterpsv: right. technically a reimplementation of the win32 api
[07:22] <slooksterpsv> yup
[07:22] <slooksterpsv> WINE + WinRar especially on corrupt files is great!
[07:23] <mokush> hey, does anybody know how to stop kdesudo from asking for password when automounting drive?
[07:23] <slooksterpsv> mokush - add it to your fstab
[07:23] <slooksterpsv> mokush - use pysdm - it's easy, and all you do is click a couple of items; and it adds it to your fstab so each time you boot/reboot the drive is still mounted, only issue is if the drive is not availalbe it may give you error messages
[07:24] <slooksterpsv> unless there's another way, but that's the only way I know how
[07:24] <mokush> so you say stop using the built-in "system setting" to mount, and manualy mount using fstab?
[07:25] <migumi> thanks for trying to help me out everyone but im having a hard time here understanding you. i feel like im an alien here. poor me.
[07:25] <maco> migumi: what was your problem? i dont see it
[07:26] <mokush> how about stopping kwallet from asking for password on startup?
[07:26] <slooksterpsv> migumi
[07:27] <slooksterpsv> migumi - go to a terminal and type in: sudo apt-get install wine   -or open... what is it in Ubuntu, kpackagekit? and search for wine and install that
[07:27] <migumi> i was like having a movie file here which is split into 45 zip files
[07:27] <slooksterpsv> actually migumi, do this, I can make it into a script to automate it for you if you'd like?
[07:28] <migumi> and i am hoping that i can extract all of them and condense it again into one movie file
[07:28] <migumi> that is my problem maco
[07:28] <migumi> ok ill try that slooksterpsv
[07:30] <maco> migumi: unzip *.zip ?
[07:30] <maco> thatd unzip them all
[07:30] <migumi> slooksterpsv: how am i be able to uninstall the archve manager which you told me a while ago to try first?
[07:30] <migumi> maco: i want to unzip the files
[07:30] <maco> that would unzip them, yes
[07:30] <maco> oh um
[07:30] <maco> in case its not clear (as i just noticed), "unzip" is a command
[07:31] <slooksterpsv> migumi - i'm going to pm you with the command it's long
[07:31] <migumi> oh i already tried that one using ark
[07:31] <migumi> maco:oh i already tried that one using ark
[07:32] <migumi> but i only got them into smaller separate files
[07:32] <maco> id use cat to put them together
[07:32] <slooksterpsv> migumi, just run that command in terminal it will download and install wine, download winrar, start the winrar installation then open up winrar so you can open the .ro files
[07:33] <maco> cat file1 file2 file3 file4 > movie.avi
[07:33] <slooksterpsv> oh if you don't like sudo, I can do ksudo or kdesudo so it pops-up the window to prompt you for your password
[07:36] <migumi> what is cat maco?
[07:37] <maco> migumi: catenate. it attaches things end to end
[07:37] <migumi> how can i get it into my system?
[07:38] <kyubutsu> is there a known bug about kmail not connecting to imap [gmail in this case]
[07:39] <migumi> by the way people how did you manage to have your input lines highlighted? lol
[07:42] <Kalidarn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9980489 slooksterpsv i don't think i missed anything there I hope someone has a solution to this
[07:42] <Kalidarn> another thing i've noticed is vmware-vmx seems to jump to 100% cpu almost and video playback on the host becomes impossible.
[07:42] <Kalidarn> i found a solution, shut down the vm, and restart pulseaudio
[07:43] <Kalidarn> does anyone know of a pulseaudio bug regarding cpu usage
[07:43] <Kalidarn> ive heard it's had a lot of problems in the past
[07:43] <Kalidarn> (simply shutting down vmware-vmx) doesn't fix it have to also kill pulse audio and restart so im not sure what the case is with that
[07:49]  * Islington is away: Gone away for now
[07:52] <kyubutsu> !away | Islington
[07:55] <kyubutsu> i know i have kmail set up properly .. even tried a number of wrong ways just to in case [also outta boredom]  it just gets indefinitely 'checking' for mail   :(
[07:56] <kyubutsu> *stuck
[07:56] <kyubutsu> imap is enabled on gmail side too.. not that many things to check really
[07:56] <kyubutsu> : /
[07:58] <kyubutsu> i had been successful in the past.. this malfunction is new
[07:59] <kyubutsu> didnt feel like trying pop setup but i guess i might have to then, given the popularity of this bug <sarcasm>
[07:59] <kyubutsu> but i have my rupees on kmail being at fault
[08:07] <stefanos> kubuntu greek channel?
[08:07] <computerillitera> hey everyone how am i be able to access the files i have downloaded in my virtual OS using oracle
[08:08] <stefanos> send them to shared folder , if you have not one - make
[08:08] <computerillitera> i want to access the files in the "real" system, in my kubuntu
[08:09] <stefanos> devices ->  shared folders ( add one from kubuntu )
[08:10] <stefanos> what is your guest os?
[08:10] <computerillitera> windows vista
[08:10] <kyubutsu> !gr | stefanos
[08:10] <computerillitera> i mean xp
[08:10] <stefanos> thanks
[08:12] <stefanos> right clik on network places , and add the folder from assign disk
[08:12] <stefanos> the folder is now shared
[08:13] <alesan> hi
[08:13] <alesan> I just upgraded
[08:13] <alesan> but now kde displays the task bar on the secondary monitor
[08:14] <computerillitera> you mean from my guest OS?
[08:14] <stefanos> is it possible to run radiotray with kubuntu?
[08:14] <alesan> just before the upgrade it was correctly on the main monitor
[08:14] <alesan> how can I mode it?
[08:14] <stefanos> in ubuntu works fine
[08:15] <stefanos> yes from guest os xp
[08:16] <stefanos> install guest additions first
[08:20] <computerillitera> ok stefanos
[08:20] <stefanos> is it done?
[08:20] <computerillitera> there's another thing
[08:22] <computerillitera> how can i minimize the windows panel of my opened applications in kubuntu and make them appear just below the desktop
[08:22] <computerillitera> ?
[08:22] <alesan> hi!
[08:22] <alesan> so I just upgraded kubuntu to 10.10 and all applications now use an ugly font similar to COMICS
[08:23] <alesan> how do I delete that font from the computer?
[08:23] <Peace-> alesan: you know that okular can work like comics
[08:23] <alesan> what is okular?
[08:24] <computerillitera> its like a reader
[08:24] <Peace-> alesan: okular is a program that can open scan,rar file
[08:24] <Peace-> pdf files
[08:24] <Peace-> cbr files
[08:24] <Peace-> and other stuff
[08:24] <alesan> ok I am not using it
[08:24] <alesan> thunderbird, even firefox
[08:24] <alesan> the KDE task bar
[08:24] <alesan> all use this comics-like font
[08:25] <alesan> I want to use the normal font that came with all previous releases
[08:25] <computerillitera> how can i minimize the windows panel of my opened applications in kubuntu and make them appear just below the desktop
[08:25] <valorie_> I think perhaps you don't like the new Ubuntu font?
[08:26] <alesan> comics?
[08:26] <valorie_> it doesn't appear at all like comics to me
[08:26] <computerillitera> i just hated pressing alt+tab key everytime i switch to another windos
[08:26] <computerillitera> i just hated pressing alt+tab key everytime i switch to another window
[08:26] <kyubutsu> !enter | alesan , Peace-
[08:26] <alesan> kyubutsu, are you drunk :) ???
[08:26] <kyubutsu> i wish?
[08:26] <alesan> ok sorry
[08:27] <valorie_> computerillitera: do you want a toolbar, you mean?
[08:27]  * kyubutsu shrugs
[08:27] <alesan> but just tell me how to get rid of this font and go back to something classic
[08:27] <Peace-> kyubutsu: i am here to support kubuntu since 3 year i think i know rulez
[08:27] <computerillitera> i dont know how you call it
[08:27] <valorie_> you can just use your mouse scroll to move through apps or desktops if you like also
[08:27] <computerillitera> but i want my kubuntu to act like the one in windows OS
[08:28]  * valorie_ prefers to use a toolbar
[08:28] <valorie_> well, it's been so long since I used windows
[08:28] <valorie_> I don't know how they are doing things now
[08:28] <alesan> computerillitera, yes the ALT+TAB on KDE has always been... useless
[08:28] <computerillitera> that when you try to minimize an application it will only stay below your desktop
[08:29] <valoriez> alesan: I believe in systemsettings, you set your fonts
[08:29] <valoriez> size, type, everything
[08:30] <alesan> valoriez, do you know which icon in system settings?
[08:31] <valoriez> hmmm, let me look
[08:31] <computerillitera> what i mean is i just want to minimize things and let them stay just below my monitor so that i wont have to use alt+tab keys everytime i switch to another window
[08:31] <valoriez> Application Appearance will do the fonts in all your apps
[08:31] <alesan> oh ok thanks
[08:32] <valoriez> if you want more fonts, looks like font installer is in system administration
[08:33] <valoriez> which is reasonable
[08:33] <alesan> no verdana is fine
[08:33] <alesan> I do not need 1000's of fonts
[08:45] <valoriez> alesan: did that do what you wanted?
[08:45] <alesan> yes
[08:45] <alesan> thanks
[08:45] <alesan> well I need to restart apps
[08:45] <valoriez> super!
[08:45] <valoriez> right, of course
[08:45] <alesan> for example now xchat is still with the ugly font
[08:45] <alesan> but not in the main part of the window
[08:46] <alesan> only in the textline at the bottom, in the menu and titlebar
[08:46]  * valoriez uses konversation
[08:48] <alesan> hm
[08:48] <alesan> last one I used an IRC client that was for KDE... it was ksirc I think
[08:49] <alesan> or... no maybe it was konversation
[08:49] <alesan> now I do not remember why I switched back to xchat
[08:49] <alesan> probably because xchat takes less real estate on the monitor
[08:50] <alesan> I like it things when they are compact
[08:52] <valoriez> I started out with mIRC in Windows
[08:52] <valoriez> now that I've found Konvi, I no longer miss it
[08:53] <computerillitera> hey slook..how do i be able to minimize the application windows and just them put the minimized windows below my desktop?
[08:54] <computerillitera> how do i be able to minimize the application windows and just them put the minimized windows below my desktop?
[08:54] <computerillitera> anybody
[08:55] <computerillitera> i'd better switch to windows OS.
[08:55] <computerillitera> no more patience for kubuntu
[08:56] <alesan> he's right
[08:57] <alesan> there are some things in KDE that are great, like the "focus stricly under mouse"
[08:57] <alesan> but the ALT+TAB in windows is much better
[08:57] <alesan> and it would be so simple to implement
[08:57] <computerillitera> alt+tab works fine with me in kubuntu
[08:58] <computerillitera> but i just want to see the minimize buttons right below my desktop
[08:58] <alesan> you mean the task bar?
[08:58] <computerillitera> yeah
[08:59] <alesan> that is fine with me... what happens? you don't see the task bar?
[08:59] <computerillitera> i want the minimize buttons to be visible in the task bar
[08:59] <valoriez> he didn't want to alt tab
[09:00] <valoriez> he wanted a toolbar
[09:00] <alesan> minimize buttons...?
[09:00] <valoriez> plasma toolbar
[09:00] <alesan> computerillitera, can you describe the "minimize button"?
[09:00] <computerillitera> okay
[09:00] <computerillitera> well
[09:00] <alesan> valoriez, the "plasma" thing I never understand what is
[09:00] <valoriez> computerillitera: google for plasma toolbar, and see if that's what you want
[09:00] <valoriez> I think it is
[09:00] <alesan> I disabled plasma, I just want a regular desktop
[09:01] <valoriez> ok
[09:01] <valoriez> that's fine
[09:01] <valoriez> however, I like the plasma stuff
[09:01] <valoriez> the applets
[09:01] <valoriez> etc.
[09:03] <alesan> computerillitera, do you mean a small button on the icon on the task bar, to minimize the corresponding window?
[09:05] <alesan> or...?
[09:05] <alesan> brb
[09:10] <TopGear> Hello people
[09:12] <TopGear> Got a few problems after installing Kubuntu 10.10: My Conky is all black with white letters, but there should be no background... I can't reach my NAS in any ways. Only through SAMBA, but that doesn't work quite well. And after a fres 10.10 install, I don't see any grub2 booting up :s
[09:12] <TopGear> http://tinyurl.com/33cs94e for the conky
[09:12] <TopGear> and for the .conkyrc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/514348/
[09:34] <valoriez> can't help with the conky or samba
[09:34] <valoriez> but I also got no grub2, and blogged about it
[09:34] <valoriez> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/10/grub2-and-chroots-dammit.html
[09:35] <valoriez> might help
[09:35] <valoriez> I guess it's a long-standing debian bug
[09:44] <azm> Hi, I cant 'apply' theme in kde..someone can help?
[09:44] <azm> system settings-advanced-desktop details
[09:44] <azm> and apply button is grey
[09:48] <valoriez> you might need to download the theme?
[09:48] <valoriez> is there "Get More Themes" or something?
[09:49] <azm> valoriez: well I can choose from air,aya, blend etc but there no download button
[09:52] <Renovatio> domanda: per modificare a mano le configurazioni di xorg devo prendere il file /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[09:53] <valoriez> yes, those are built in
[09:53] <valoriez> you choose one, and the button is still gray?
[09:54] <valoriez> it could be because you already have it
[09:54] <valoriez> ?
[09:56] <Renovatio> ops: wrong channel (only english here)...i repost my question: xorg conf file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[09:57] <azm> valoriez: sorry, I have KX studio and there is need to check some permissions first, now it should work.
[09:59] <valoriez> cool
[10:02] <TopGear> hello ppl
[10:02] <TopGear> How do I import mail from Evolution to KMail?
[10:12] <Peace-> TopGear: mmm
[10:12] <Peace-> nice question :D
[10:13] <TopGear> thanks :p
[10:13] <TopGear> I know that KMail to Evolution is easy, and I found some solutions @ internet. But Evo. to Kmail isn't that easy...
[10:14] <TopGear> Btw, i've made a backup in a .tar.gz
[10:14] <ranjan> Hi all,
[10:14] <ranjan> i was a user of Ubuntu and now switched to Kubuntu, its really great.
[10:15] <Peace-> TopGear: In KMail 1.13, the option has moved to the File->Import menu. This has saved me SO MUCH time, as I have gone from Ubuntu Evolution to openSuse KMail. Thanks for such a great resource!
[10:15] <Peace-> TopGear: that was fouind on google
[10:15] <Peace-> xD
[10:15] <Peace-> but i dunno
[10:15] <ranjan> is there any way to import the address book from gmail to Kontact?
[10:15] <Peace-> i have always used kde
[10:15] <TopGear> the problem is that the KMail import version doesn't work
[10:16] <Peace-> ah damn
[10:17] <TopGear> yeah, my words :p
[10:17] <Peace-> xD
[10:18] <TopGear> made a topic @ ubuntuforums
[10:18] <Peace-> TopGear: mmm i dunno
[10:18] <Peace-> TopGear: but could be old
[10:19] <Peace-> TopGear: http://siena.linux.it/documenti/cross-mail/
[10:19] <TopGear> dont trust that one, to be honest
[10:19] <Peace-> TopGear: http://siena.linux.it/documenti/cross-mail/index.en.html
[10:19] <Peace-> TopGear: well :) you can try
[10:19] <Peace-> is gpl
[10:22] <Peace-> TopGear: couild be read this maybe http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/Tools#Mail_Import_Tools
[10:24] <TopGear> both don't work...
[10:24] <ranjan> hi all has anyone here used kaleban plasma theme?
[10:24] <TopGear> not me
[10:28] <ranjan> How can i make the taskbar show buttons like windows 7 instead of full text based taskbar?
[10:28] <Peace-> ranjan: if you want vista .. you canin install a theme
[10:29] <Peace-> vistar7 i guess it's
[10:29] <ranjan> Peace-: no i dont want that. :(
[10:29] <ranjan> it got me into trouble once
[10:29] <ranjan> have you seen the theme kaleban ?
[10:29] <Peace-> nope
[10:29] <Peace-> i use oxygen
[10:29] <Peace-> and stop :)
[10:30] <ranjan> can you visit the link in kde-look.org if i give you one?
[10:31] <ranjan> Peace-: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kaleban+Plasma+Theme?content=123524
[10:31] <ranjan> can you say what app is in that screenshot at the taskmanager?
[10:35] <Peace-> ranjan: just a sec
[10:35] <ranjan> Peace-: ok
[10:36] <Peace-> kmess?
[10:36] <ranjan> Peace-: what? is that the name of the software?
[10:36] <Peace-> kmess is a messanger
[10:36] <ranjan> no,no
[10:37] <ranjan> Peace-: i am not asking about the messenger
[10:37] <ranjan> Peace-: did you she the tasks as buttons
[10:37] <Peace-> i guess is a kyboard layout
[10:37] <Peace-> to switch for eeample from greek layout
[10:38] <Peace-> to english
[10:38] <Peace-> *keyboard
[10:39] <ranjan> Peace-: hey are you answering to me or someone else :(
[10:41] <wuselman> good morning - I' m still tiered - shit weather in Hannover
[10:43] <Peace-> ranjan: to you
[10:43] <ranjan> Peace-: then my question to u is clear i think. that button only taksbar, which is that software thats my question
[10:44] <Peace-> buttons----> keyboard layout chooser
[10:44] <Peace-> i guess it's that
[10:45] <Peace-> if you mean another stuff you should cut the photo
[10:55] <ForgeAus> how to fix wubi? I Can get to busybox but full startup doesnt work, It seems like it might be something to do with lvm
[10:57] <Peace-> wubi?
[10:57] <Peace-> omg
[10:57] <Peace-> :)
[11:00]  * Islington is away: Gone away for now
[11:01]  * Islington is back.
[11:01] <valoriez> Islington: please quiet your client
[11:02] <ForgeAus> it permanently hangs on the blue (of course most kubuntu screens are blue) boot logo (the one with the dots (that replaced a progress bar) ... )
[11:02] <ForgeAus> but if I change virtual terminals (ie control+alt+f1) it gives some errors...
[11:03] <ForgeAus> the first one being a script (lvm) that was trying to use something thats "not found"
[11:03] <ForgeAus> which is why I think lvm is the problem
[11:04] <ForgeAus> (unless its the mounting NTFS but its already using ntfs since its doing grub stuff which requires access to the virtual drive doesn't it?)
[11:05] <ForgeAus> confusing that it can get there it just doesn't know its already got there... kinda
[11:05] <ForgeAus> if that made any sense whatsoever
[11:09] <ForgeAus> bbl
[11:43] <cx> sldkfjls
[11:44] <cx> 有中国人吗
[11:54] <cypr1nus> hello, has anyone had an issue with smplayer + mkv - no video ?
[12:00] <Peace-> cypr1nus: well :)
[12:00] <Peace-> what's your problem
[12:01] <cypr1nus> Peace-: I want to watch some mkv videos and i see no video, while sound is on
[12:01] <Peace-> vlc?
[12:02] <cypr1nus> I want to use smplayer and probably that's a problem
[12:02] <Peace-> i mean vlc works with that?
[12:02] <Peace-> or not
[12:03] <cypr1nus> i haven't tried vlc, but for 100% it works
[12:06] <ForgeAus> hey all .. back to before... wubi problems with update
[12:06] <Machtin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1503569&page=2 <- i think i've got this problem.. however, it doesn't appear to be fixed in 10.10.. is that right? (i915, brightness can't be changed)
[12:07] <ForgeAus> the error is /scripts/init-premount/lvm2: line39: add_mountroot_fail_hook: not found
[12:07] <Peace-> Machtin: a lots of intel card have problems with 10.10
[12:07] <Peace-> driver sucks
[12:08] <ForgeAus> (then it doesn't mount devices (/dev/sda2 on /root failed (no such device , no such file or directory for /dev and /sys and /proc... finally Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init, No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[12:08] <Machtin> Peace-: i see
[12:09] <ForgeAus> any ideas how to fix?
[12:10] <ForgeAus> it seems to be a minor config faut, it was working before kpackagekit updated it
[12:10] <ForgeAus> erm fault if I can type it right lol
[12:11] <newuser> What is the equivalent for synaptic in kubuntu? (e.g. I want to install a single package, not a softwar)
[12:12] <ForgeAus> kpackagekit
[12:13] <ForgeAus> (you might want/need to use kdesudo kpackagekit from commandline, not sure... )
[12:14] <newuser> but I cant install libraries with Kpackagekit
[12:14] <Peace-> what?
[12:14] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install nomepackage
[12:15] <Peace-> form konsole
[12:16] <ForgeAus> libraries?
[12:19] <greenmang0> can anybody tell my why /tmp doesn't get emptied after reboot? I have TMPTIME=0 in /etc/default/rcS
[12:20] <greenmang0> http://sprunge.us/KJGD < this is what keeps on piling in /tmp
[12:42] <kaddi> so how is the new kubuntu/
[12:42] <Peace-> kaddi: better kubuntu 10.04
[12:42] <Peace-> than 10.10
[12:42] <Peace-> for me that i have a intel card
[12:42] <Peace-> and i hate pulse audiio
[12:43] <kaddi> ohhhh
[12:43] <kaddi> the intel problems are back? >.<
[12:43] <Peace-> yeaa
[12:44] <kaddi> awesome
[12:51]  * Islington is away: Gone away for now
[12:51] <greenmang0> Peace-: i have 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) and upgrade to 10.10 removed xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:52] <greenmang0> Peace-: i had to reinstall it to get my desktop effects work properly again
[12:53] <Peace-> kaddi: xD i am on lucid
[12:53] <Peace-> it works well
[12:53] <Peace-> greenmang0: the problem is the worse driver i have ever seen
[12:53] <Peace-> 3d accelleration is not good
[12:53] <Peace-> kwin effects was turned off
[12:53] <Peace-> 3d games doesn't work well
[12:53] <Peace-> ..
[12:53] <Peace-> 945gm here
[12:54] <greenmang0> Peace-: I see
[12:55] <Peace-> greenmang0: well lucid works really well
[12:55] <Peace-> so there is no problem for me cuz i have 2 installations :D
[12:56] <greenmang0> Peace-: good :) and lucid is LTS so you can enjoy it for 3 more years :P
[12:57] <Peace-> yea :D
[12:58]  * Islington is back.
[13:02] <kaddi> i use lucid as well
[13:02] <Peace-> there is no difference
[13:02] <Peace-> at all i guess
[13:20] <bigbrovar> is there a way to make thunderbird show in the Kubuntu indicator plasmoid? there seems to be a walk round for that on ubuntu but same doesnt work on kubuntu
[13:49] <Belisarivs> Hello all.
[13:49] <Belisarivs> I have a terrible problem with Kubuntu MM.
[13:50] <Belisarivs> Installation is OK, however, while after reboot into freshly installed system strange things start to happen.
[13:51] <Belisarivs> Initialy system works, but after some while, icons start to disappear, applications are not started from menu ....
[13:51]  * Islington is away: Gone away for now
[13:52] <Belisarivs> I have never seen that. If I reboot machine, kdm doesn't start, "sudo whatever" reports that command sudo doesn't exit ....
[13:52] <patrunjel> hi everywone
[13:53] <Belisarivs> Memory is OK, installation disk as well, fs is IMHO OK too, because I had no such problems in LL.
[13:56] <Belisarivs> Any ideas?
[13:59] <ari> ce' qualcuno che parla italiano?
[14:01] <munny> ari dimmi pure
[14:01] <rork> !it | ari
[14:02] <ari> buon giorno munny volevo sapere come funzionava questo canale
[14:03] <ari> ok grazie
[14:22] <sheytan> Hey, may someone take a look at this http://pastebin.com/D0biLKBR ?
[14:25]  * Islington is back.
[14:57] <zig> hi all, I successfully installed kubuntu on my eeepc, everything working out of the box, in particular suspend to disk
[14:57] <zig> but evebut ever since I upgraded (from the 10.04 install CD), suspend to disk stopped working
[14:57] <zig> when I resume, access to the filesystem is broken
[14:57] <zig> (random files corruption)
[14:58] <zig> is that a known issue ?
[15:09] <rek_> i have a partition i can't read with win 7,but i can read it with ubuntu 10.10 gparted says it's a ntfs partition but fdisk says "linux" how can i format it to ntfs without losing all the data?
[15:22] <fanti> hi! how do i upgrade vom kubuntu lucid to maverick ?
[15:28] <Belisarivs> fanti: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+maverick+upgrade
[15:29] <tsimpson> !upgrade
[15:29] <tsimpson> see the first link
[15:30] <fanti> thx
[15:40] <Peace-> !maverick | fanti
[15:40] <Peace-> !upgrade | fanti
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Peace-, are you 10.04 still ?
[16:05] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have 2 installations
[16:05] <Peace-> one 10.04
[16:05] <Peace-> the other this one is 10.10
[16:05] <Peace-> why?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> ok. was wondering if you were trying to upgrade from 04 to 10
[16:08] <Peace-> nope i always install the new kubuntu in the other partition
[16:14] <rek> hi i can't read a sd with my pc but i can read it perfectly with my digital camera, i could see some pics but it's extremely slow... win instead says it's damaged can you help me to recover the data?
[16:16] <Viliny> heya! Any netbook remix version with kde available?
[16:50] <dasKreech> Viliny: Yes just download the normal CD
[16:51] <dasKreech> it has the Netbook on it
[16:51] <dasKreech> rek: try testdisk or go to CGSecurity and download photorec
[16:51] <dasKreech> !netbook
[17:02]  * Islington is away: Gone away for now
[17:07]  * Islington is back.
[17:10]  * BluesKaj is away
[17:17] <dexel> Тут спирт кто нибудь пьёт?
[17:17] <dexel> Ну или хоть водку?
[17:19] <renato> hi, how do I stop an application from starting automatically at server startup?
[17:23] <dasKreech> !ru | dexel
[17:24] <dasKreech> renato: find out why it's starting and tell that to stop
[17:25] <renato> dasKreech: I have installed the package of postgres 8.4 and because of that it starts. now Ihave also postgres 9.0 and  I do not need 8.4 all the time. I remember by heart something like rc-init but I cannot seem to guess the command right
[17:26] <dasKreech> renato: Look in /etc/init.d
[17:26] <dasKreech> !upstart
[17:26] <dasKreech> and you can read that
[17:27] <renato> rtfm?
[17:36] <Walrus> Good evening! I've just installed kubuntu 10.10, a wubi install, but it won't start after reboot, I get this error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/284774
[17:37] <RickKnight> Just upgraded to 10.10 and I have a question I haven't found an answer for yet. How do I move the icons in the panel?
[17:38] <sresu> KSysTrayCmd working for every application. How can I exit it permanently?
[17:39] <an1> hi.. is there an equivalent for GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID in kubuntu?
[17:39] <dasKreech> an1: Hmm?
[17:40] <dasKreech> RickKnight: click on the button at the very end. (You have to unlock the panel first of course)
[17:41] <sresu> Pici?
[17:41] <an1> dasKreech: im using tweetdeck. Any link i click does not open on a browser(it used to in 10.04). So i searched and found this. Im not sure if it will solve the problem: http://support.tweetdeck.com/entries/59272-why-do-links-that-i-click-in-tweetdeck-not-open-in-the-correct-browser
[17:42] <sresu> RickKnight: What do you want to do? Customize the positions of icon in the panel?
[17:42] <RickKnight> sresu: Yes, I want to rearrange them.
[17:43]  * dasKreech suggests choqok to an1
[17:43] <RickKnight> dasKreech: All that allows is to remove them.
[17:43] <sresu> RickKnight: Are the widgets lockes? If they are 'Unlock Widgets' by right clicking on the panel
[17:44] <dasKreech> RickKnight: just click on the icon and drag it to where you want it. You'll see a little 4way arrow
[17:44] <sresu> * ...are,
[17:45] <sresu> RickKnight: It works the way dasKreech suggested, try it out
[17:45] <RickKnight> My panel is unlocked, but I can't get the icons to move. This has always worked in the past.
[17:46] <dasKreech> RickKnight: describe what's happening
[17:47] <sresu> RickKnight: Can you resize the panel?
[17:47] <RickKnight> I know the panel is unlocked because when I right click on the panel it says "Lock Panel Alt+D, L". I right click on the icon and I get a menu that has emove, Icon Settings, and Panel Options. The icon will not move.
[17:48] <RickKnight> not emove, Remove.
[17:49] <RickKnight> Yes, I can resize the panel form Panel Options
[17:49] <ranjan> Hi all, which is the best webcam software for KDE?
[17:50] <sresu> !-panels
[17:50] <sresu> !panels
[17:50] <sresu> !panels-kde
[17:51] <ranjan> Hi all, can i remove the text from taskmanager applet?
[17:51] <sresu> RickKnight: Its unlikely but try making some space and see if it helps
[17:51] <sresu> RickKnight: Resize it completely
[17:53] <dasKreech> RickKnight: you don't right click you just normal left click and drag. it should have a little 4 way arrow when you mouse over it
[17:54] <RickKnight> I moved the panel to the right edge and now I can move the icons.
[17:54] <TopGear> hi
[17:54] <sresu> ranjan: Ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[17:54] <sresu> !best
[17:55] <RickKnight> OK. I moved the panel down to the bottom and now I can move the icons.
[17:55] <TopGear> Is there some system monitor for KDE like Conky for GNOME?
[17:55] <phoenix_> i am having problem with wine. i installed dcom98 using winetricks and now i am not able to use even wine config. any help
[17:55] <sresu> RickKnight: Thats good. Quite unlikely but at times we need to follow that :)
[17:55] <RickKnight> Strange, but it's working now. Thanks.
[17:56] <sresu> RickKnight: Welcome
[17:56] <ranjan> Hi all, can i remove the text from taskmanager applet?
[17:59] <RickKnight> I'm also having a problem with the newest releases of VirtualBox. Trying to install it, it gives a dependancy error. It wants Python2.5 >=. I have 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8. I had to install a previous version of Vbox to get it to work.
[18:01] <poooolo> ciao
[18:04] <Coudy> hi, how to enable 5.1 sound in KDE 4.5.2 with SBlive soundcard an xine backend  ?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Coudy,open alsamixer and make sure all the 5.1 channels are unmuted and turned up\]
[18:06] <sresu> RickKnight: Yes
[18:07] <sresu> RickKnight: From where was it updated?
[18:08] <sresu> BluesKaj: Can you help me with KSysTrayCmd?
[18:08] <RickKnight> sresu: I updated Vbox form the Kubuntu/Ubuntu download from Oracle
[18:09] <sresu> RickKnight: Does it say 3.2.10 r66523?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> sresu, you mean widget settings
[18:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:10] <sresu> RickKnight: From where was dkms installed?
[18:10] <Coudy> BluesKaj, yes, I have, but no sound, I need to enable only digital output,
[18:10] <sresu> RickKnight: Paste the putput of uname -a
[18:11] <RickKnight> sresu: Linux rick 2.6.35-22-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Sun Oct 10 09:24:00 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:11] <sresu> BluesKaj: KSysTrayCmd working for every application. How can I exit it permanently?
[18:11] <RickKnight> sresu: Yes, it's 3.2.10 66523
[18:11] <Coudy> BluesKaj, DigOut is enabled, but no sound from speakers
[18:11] <RickKnight> sresu: Not sure where I got dkms
[18:12] <BluesKaj> Coudy, alsamixer spdif out , make sure there's 00 in the box
[18:12] <sresu> RickKnight: It gives only dependency error of Python2.5 >= and you have 2.6 right? When did you get it?
[18:13] <Coudy> BluesKaj, yes, I'm sure
[18:13] <RickKnight> I get the dependancy error when I run "sudo dpkg -i virtualbox..."
[18:13] <sresu> Please pastebin /var/log/vboxadd-install.log
[18:13] <RickKnight> sresu: not sure I have dkms installed.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> Coudy, do have a pcm ctrl , and does alsamixer show you soundcard in the top left
[18:14] <sresu> sresu: CLI <sudo apt-get install dkms>. If its only dependency I only need the log
[18:15] <sresu> Argg
[18:15] <sresu> RickKnight:  CLI <sudo apt-get install dkms>. If its only dependency I only need the log
[18:16] <BluesKaj> sresu,sorry < ihave no clue what KSysTrayCmd is
[18:16] <Coudy> BluesKaj, yes, pcm is on, a I can see my soundcard Sb Live 5.1, I have switched from ubuntu 10.04 with gnome to kubuntu 10.10 with kde, in ubuntu it was working.
[18:16] <sresu> RickKnight: Did you try x86 based files?
[18:16] <RickKnight> sresu: dkms installed OK
[18:16] <sresu> BluesKaj: No probs. Thanks
[18:17] <sresu> RickKnight: You were trying x86 files for installation or other?
[18:17] <RickKnight> sresu: I only use x86
[18:17] <sresu> RickKnight: No. nothing. Just pastebin the log
[18:18] <RickKnight> sresu: which log?
[18:18] <sresu> RickKnight: Please pastebin /var/log/vboxadd-install.log
[18:18] <BluesKaj> Coudy, could you pastebin a screenshot of your alsamixer settings in http://imagebin.com/
[18:19] <RickKnight> ls
[18:20] <Coudy> BluesKaj, solved, /etc/pulse/daemon.conf enable default-sample-channels = 6
[18:20] <Coudy> BluesKaj, pulseaudio -k
[18:21] <RickKnight> sresu: http://pastebin.org/238730
[18:22] <sresu> RickKnight: Thanks. Let me see
[18:23] <RickKnight> ls -l /var/log
[18:23] <cx> hai
[18:24] <RickKnight> Oops, typed in the wrong window!
[18:24] <slooksterpsv> heryyry646t36737y37tr83
[18:25] <slooksterpsv> sorry that was my niece typing I apologize
[18:26] <BluesKaj> Coudy, thanks for the info
[18:26] <sresu> RickKnight: I think I should forward you to #vbox. I tried to help you, but I'm not able to find it properly. So as not to waste your time more, paste your error first. Give your version code and < Linux 2.6.35-22-generic  i686 GNU/Linux> with the pastebin link in your question. I hope you get it resolved. Sorry
[18:26] <RickKnight> sresu: Thanks for taking a look.
[18:27] <sresu> RickKnight: Please try it out in #vbox
[18:27] <sresu> RickKnight: Welcome
[18:28] <sresu> RickKnight: Have you asked that in #vbox before
[18:28] <sresu> ?
[18:30] <freinhard> hi!
[18:30] <sresu> !howdy | freinhard
[18:30] <sresu> !hi | freinhard
[18:31] <freinhard> can kmix with pulse on 10.10 show the channels as they are in 10.04?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Coudy, I ghuess i'd better accept the fact that pulseaudio is gonna be the soundserver on maverick whether I like it or not :) ...never been a fan of PA
[18:35] <newguy> wat?
[18:36] <dasKreech> hi slooksterpsv's niece :)
[18:36] <slooksterpsv> anyone need help?
[18:36] <slooksterpsv> lol - dasKreech its me now :P
[18:37] <slooksterpsv> what are some good widgets to have or to use? I'm using a web one for pandora, but what else would you recommend that's nice to have or fun
[18:37] <dasKreech> slooksterpsv: I'm looking for how to get akonadi to sync my calendar with Google
[18:37] <slooksterpsv> yay I already do that :P here let me find the package you'll need
[18:39] <slooksterpsv> akonadi-kde-resource-googledata then open akonadi resource manager and add your google calendar in there, restart Kontact and there ya go
[18:39] <slooksterpsv> akonadi resources configuration it is lol - it's niiice
[18:40]  * dasKreech tries to parse that last sentence
[18:40] <slooksterpsv> akonadi resources configuration instead of what I said above resource manager lol that's the name of it
[18:41] <dasKreech> ah :-
[18:41] <dasKreech> Was going to say hi to your niece again
[18:41] <dasKreech> )
[18:44] <slooksterpsv> dasKreech oh btw the akonadi-kde-resource-googledata is the package you need to install
[18:44] <dasKreech> thanks
[18:45] <slooksterpsv> dasKreech - you didn't read any of my statement above, you install that, then open akonadi resources configuration, add your google calendar there, then restart Kontact
[18:45] <slooksterpsv> :( sad face :(
[18:48] <Belisarivs> Expression    : no_assert
[18:48] <Belisarivs> Function      : CXML_IdToIndex<class CCharacterInfo>::GetById
[18:48] <Belisarivs> File          : e:\stalker\sources\trunk\xr_3da\xrgame\xml_str_id_loader.h
[18:48] <Belisarivs> Line          : 112
[18:48] <Belisarivs> Description   : item not found, id
[18:48] <FloodBotK1> Belisarivs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:48] <Belisarivs> Arguments     : ÿ3:Fºo›±¸Ãb
[18:49] <Belisarivs> I have a terrible problem with Kubuntu MM. Installation is OK, however, while after reboot into freshly installed system strange things start to happen. Initialy system works, but after some while, icons start to disappear, applications are not started from menu ....  If I reboot machine, kdm doesn't start, "sudo whatever" reports that command sudo doesn't exit ....
[18:50] <Belisarivs> Ouch. Please ignor those sentences marked as flood. Unintentional.
[18:51] <Belisarivs> Nobody does face my issue with freshly installed Kubuntu?
[18:51] <slooksterpsv> weird let me see
[18:51] <slooksterpsv> what filesystem ext4?
[18:52] <Belisarivs> ext3
[18:52] <Belisarivs> LL was installed on that fs before without problems. Then i chose to reinstall it with MM (but did't let it be formatted).
[18:52] <slooksterpsv> Uh... I'd reboot into safe mode and run a fsck -fy
[18:53] <Belisarivs> ok
[18:53] <Belisarivs> thanks
[18:53] <slooksterpsv> yw sounds like a corruption somewhere on the disk, if that doesn't work I'd try the hdd  cd for your hdd manufacturer make sure it's not going bad
[18:56] <slooksterpsv> anyone know of a widget that I could get for KDE for Pandora? I was thinking prism, but something like what AWN has with it's applet for pandora
[18:56] <slooksterpsv> ??? I'm an idiot, I'll just do AWN have it dock on the right and do it that way =D
[19:04] <RickKnight> sresu: no, haven't yet.
[19:05] <Belisarivs> slooksterpsv: fsck returned no error, I have Windows and Opensuse on that disk and that is OK.
[19:06] <Belisarivs> I'll try to resolve it somehow. I'll try another partition and ext4 fs. Lets see.
[19:18] <stefanos> radiotray on kubuntu ? how?
[19:19] <stefanos> anybody?
[19:19] <dasKreech> stefanos: radiotray?
[19:21] <stefanos> in ubuntu there is new pachage called radiotray , its nice , runs in tray and you can modify several stations around the word, but in kubuntu the tray icon does not run
[19:22] <stefanos> actually it does not start at all
[19:24] <stefanos> maybe kde is different ( more beautifull though ) , but is still ubuntu in basics !  if anyone tried radiotray on kubuntu plesase inform
[19:25] <rork> stefanos: did you try starting it from the commandline to see if it generates any errors?
[19:25] <stefanos> how ?
[19:26] <stefanos> whats the command?
[19:26] <rork> I don't know, I can't find the package
[19:27] <stefanos> kpackagekit , search radiotray
[19:27] <stefanos> it is   .deb
[19:27] <rork> I don't have it (I'm on 10.04
[19:28] <stefanos> only 10.10 have it
[19:28] <rork> brb
[19:28] <stefanos> google radiotray
[19:30] <dasKreech> stefanos: open konsole
[19:30] <dasKreech> type in radio and press tab
[19:30] <stefanos> ok wait
[19:31] <stefanos> then?
[19:31] <dasKreech> do you get radiotray  or something similar ?
[19:32] <stefanos> not sutisfied procedure
[19:35] <stefanos> not install allthough kpackagekit has
[19:37] <stefanos> anyway i ll try from things it depends on like python
[19:48] <beised> hello all
[19:48] <beised> I'm new from here
[19:49] <rork> welcome
[19:49] <beised> Thanks
[19:50] <beised> BTW, what is the core issue discussed here
[19:50] <beised> ?
[19:51] <dasKreech> beised: What ever Kubuntu related topic you like
[19:51] <dasKreech> mostly tech support
[19:51] <beised> Good!
[19:52] <dasKreech> :-)
[19:52] <beised> So, anyone have made a 10.10 Kubuntu installation already?
[19:53] <rork> yep
[19:54] <Viliny> man, meerkats are cute
[19:55] <beised> I've a problem during the disk patitioning process - They have no chice for not farmating several disks
[19:55] <beised> Choice
[19:55] <beised> formating
[19:56] <beised> If i don't have bacups ...
[19:57] <rork> beised: are you using the desktop installer? did you choose manual select harddrive?
[19:57] <beised> Yes, I did
[19:58] <beised> Desktop, yes
[20:02] <rork> beised: I don't remember how it looked like, but there should be an option "Do not use this partion"
[20:03] <beised> Yes you're right, but each partition that you chose to use thare's no option to not format it
[20:04] <beised> Now I can figure that the best should be to not use the partition during the installatiom process
[20:04] <beised> And put it to work after that!
[20:05] <rork> that would be easiest indeed
[20:05] <beised> But the question is: there's an option to mark for farmatin or not and it is not working properly.
[20:05] <beised> Sorry--> formating
[20:09] <dasKreech> beised: so all the options to format are checked and cannot be unchecked?
[20:12] <beised> Yes, at least this is what happens with me. In fact, you can unchekthe formating option,  but the "v" mark  come to "gray"  and it  made me confused
[20:13] <beised> Since the Black  "V" mark stll ther for the partitions I do need to format
[20:13] <phoenix__> i am very happy to say that yahoo messenger is working completly in wine
[20:14] <phoenix__> my wine version is 1.3. installed richedit20 and ie6 using winetricks
[20:15] <phoenix__> i am able to login into rooms and also hear others voice chats
[20:18] <James147> beised: you dont ahve to formate drives in the installer... and it should ojnly check the drive for formatting if you choise a different partition tpye then is already on it... since it requires a formate if you want to change the filesystem tpye
[20:20] <Viliny> whats the console in kubuntu called?
[20:20] <Viliny> and where is it
[20:20] <ElNota> Viliny: "konsole"
[20:21] <James147> Viliny: "konsole"
[20:21] <Viliny> ok ok :)
[20:21] <James147> Viliny: or searching for "terminal" should also work
 + "k-prefix"
[20:22] <James147> ElNota: not always... mostly not... the gnome console is called "gnome-terminal" if i remember correctly
[20:26] <Guest75948> list
[20:26] <Guest75948> #list
[20:26] <Guest75948> sorry
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[20:28] <James147> !away | Islington
[20:29] <jussi> Islington: please turn that script off as per the factoid or we may remove you from the channel
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[20:41] <viliny> any way to get 3d in virtualbox and kubuntu?
[20:42] <James147> viliny: 3d has never worked very well in virtual mechienes... I think virtualbox had some exprimental code that let you try it, but you might need to get the one from oracle
[21:35] <aputamkon> hi all any 1 able to help me hok up my lexmark x5070 printer?
[21:36] <Peace-> aputamkon: mmm
[21:36] <aputamkon> ?
[21:37] <Peace-> aputamkon: printer database
[21:37] <aputamkon> uh what ua mean?
[21:37] <valoriez> lexmark
[21:37] <valoriez> evil
[21:37] <aputamkon> oic
[21:38] <Peace-> aputamkon: there is a database for printer
[21:38] <valoriez> friends have a slideshow of them smashing theirs to smithereens
[21:38] <Peace-> get the ppd file
[21:38] <valoriez> lol
[21:38] <Peace-> then install ppd file with cups
[21:38] <aputamkon> wee isit?
[21:38] <aputamkon> i have no idea what cups is
[21:38] <Peace-> aputamkon: searching on my links wait
[21:38] <aputamkon> kk
[21:39] <Peace-> aputamkon: type this on your webbrowser
[21:39] <aputamkon> ok
[21:39] <Peace-> http://localhost:631/
[21:39] <Peace-> that is cups
[21:40] <Peace-> aputamkon: http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[21:41] <Peace-> aputamkon: mm ohi ohi ohi
[21:42] <Peace-> aputamkon: i can't find your prionter in the database
[21:42] <Peace-> this is bad
[21:42] <aputamkon> so i proably cant use it?
[21:42] <Peace-> well...
[21:42] <Peace-> wait a moment
[21:42] <Peace-> aputamkon: are you sure about the number?
[21:42] <Peace-> usb ?
[21:42] <aputamkon> x5070
[21:43] <Peace-> mm lsusb
[21:43] <Peace-> can you give me ?
[21:43] <Peace-> the output
[21:43] <aputamkon> yes usb
[21:44] <aputamkon> out put?
[21:44] <Peace-> open konsole
[21:44] <Peace-> and type
[21:44] <Peace-> lsusb
[21:44] <Peace-> press enter
[21:45] <aputamkon> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c315 Logitech, Inc. Classic New Touch Keyboard
[21:45] <aputamkon> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Hama Optical Mouse
[21:45] <aputamkon> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:45] <aputamkon> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 043d:0116 Lexmark International, Inc.
[21:45] <aputamkon> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0644:0200 TEAC Corp.
[21:45] <FloodBotK1> aputamkon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:45] <aputamkon> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:45] <Peace-> ok thank you
[21:45] <Peace-> next time ...
[21:45] <aputamkon> sry
[21:45] <Peace-> !pastebin
[21:47] <aputamkon> ok i got it booked marked
[21:47] <Peace-> aputamkon: mmm try to go here
[21:47] <Peace-> aputamkon: http://localhost:631/admin/
[21:48] <Peace-> try to add the printer
[21:48] <aputamkon> k
[21:48] <Peace-> but .. your model can't be find out here
[21:48] <Peace-> on the database
[21:48] <Peace-> so i guess you could get some trouble installing it
[21:48] <Peace-> you could try to use ppd file for xx5470
[21:48] <Peace-> but ..
[21:48] <Peace-> it's not 5070
[21:48] <Peace-> :)
[21:49] <aputamkon> were would i find that ppd file?
[21:50] <Peace-> aputamkon: on the openprinting website
[21:50] <aputamkon> ok
[21:51] <aputamkon> doh it says its a paper weight :(
[21:52] <Peace-> aputamkon: you should read this too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[21:52] <Peace-> aputamkon: maybe reading that you could find some tips
[21:53] <Peace-> i can't do much more for your
[21:53] <aputamkon> ok thank you
[21:53] <Peace-> -tr
[21:53] <Peace-> -.-
[21:53] <Peace-> you
[21:53] <Peace-> aputamkon: are you italian ? of course not i guess
[21:54] <Peace-> because if you are i ahve a video where you could understand how you should a ppd file to install a printer with cups
[21:54] <aputamkon> no native american
[21:54] <Peace-> so .. :D
[21:54] <Peace-> i guess you can't understand italian hehe
[21:54] <Peace-> well good luck
[22:22] <lloowen> Hi all. I've just installed the latest Kubuntu and I'm trying to install the java plugin for Firefox 3.6.10. How do I get it working?
[22:23] <bazhang> enable the partner repo
[22:23] <bazhang> !partner | lloowen
[22:27] <bfoote> I just upgraded Kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10... I had been using gnome's nm-applet as my network management interface which had worked great...
[22:29] <bfoote> after trying out the applet that came with (knetwork manager I suppose) I started to have connectivity issues with my wifi, which was similar to my experience in 10.04, hence my switch to nm-applet
[22:30] <James147> bfoote: knetworkmanager, or the network manager widget? (yes they are different)
[22:30] <bfoote> ...so I uninstalled knetwork manager, installed nm-applet, then tried to run nm-applet from the command line, but it wont' populate the system tray
[22:30] <bfoote> James147: I think knetworkmanager
[22:31] <bfoote> am I right in my assumption that knetworkmanager is the default interface from the systray?
[22:32] <bfoote> I as because after unsuccessfully getting nm-applet to work correctly I went back and reinstalled knetworkmanager and this one doesn't look anything like what I had just after upgrade
[22:32] <bfoote> *ask
[22:33] <valoriez> hmmm
[22:33] <James147> bfoote: try installing "plasma-widget-networkmanagement" (and add it to the panel the same way you add widgets to the panel, or to sys tray from the systray settings)
[22:35] <James147> bfoote: also, knetworkmanager no longer exists in 10.10, its been renamed to network-manager-kde
[22:35] <valoriez> and it is much, much better
[22:36] <valoriez> IMO
[22:36] <James147> valoriez: what is?
[22:36] <valoriez> network-manager-kde
[22:36] <valoriez> I used to have to switch to wicD
[22:37] <valoriez> since this laptop has a flakey wireless card
[22:37] <valoriez> but knock on wood, in Mav it's super
[22:37] <James147> valoriez: network-manager-kde and knetworkmanager are essentially the same thing... its just a package rename as far as I know
[22:37] <valoriez> there had to have been improvements
[22:37] <valoriez> lol
[22:37] <James147> (ie network-manager-kde install knetworkmanager)
[22:38] <James147> valoriez: you should try the plasmoid, I find it much nicer :)
[22:39] <valoriez> it's called network management
[22:39] <valoriez> and I think it is a plasmoid
[22:39] <valoriez> sits down with the rest of them
[22:39] <bfoote> aha!  it was the plasmoid that was installed initially, and I agree, it looks pretty slick
[22:40] <bfoote> I would still like to try nm-applet if possible, since it appears to hold a connection better
[22:40] <bfoote> any hints on getting it to present itself in the systray?
[22:43] <James147> bfoote: what output do you get when you run it in a terminal?
[22:43] <valoriez> http://superuser.com/questions/57516/how-do-i-make-nm-applet-the-default-network-manager-instead-of-knetworkmanager-in might help
[22:43] <lloowen> Hello! Does anyone know how to install java plugin for Firefox3.6.10?
[22:43] <James147> ^^ and I am not entirly sure why nm-applet would hold a connection better, its only a front end to network-manager, as is knetworkmanager :S
[22:44] <valoriez> exactly
[22:44] <James147> !java | lloowen
[22:44] <bfoote> valoriez: thanks, I looked at that but it's for 7.04
[22:45] <valoriez> sorry
[22:45] <bfoote> valoriez: no, I misread that, he's been doing it *since* 7.04
[22:46] <valoriez> ok; in any case, networkmanager is standard in *buntu
[22:46] <valoriez> and Debian I think too
[22:46] <valoriez> the little widgets to show you what's going on don't make a diff on signal strength, etc.
[22:46] <valoriez> they are all just widgets, no matter what you call'em