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czzit's a lot smoother than ubuntu netbook remix00:17
|friTTe|=)00:22
|friTTe|and you can still configurate it so it looks the way you want00:23
|friTTe|and still its fast00:23
czzchromium seems to want all my cpu while on youtube00:30
phillwczz: are you using flash?00:30
bioterrorI'm not suprised00:30
bioterrorflash eats a lot of cpu00:30
phillwyou can sign up for the html5 trial with you-tube, http://www.youtube.com/html500:31
czzyes, im using flash.00:34
phillwczz: try the html5 testing out and see how you get on. html5 will eventually phase out flash.00:36
czzabout a 25-30% improvement00:44
czzpretty solid for beta00:45
phillwI know some people have found it does make a pretty decent improvement, but html5 is still in its own beta stage, so do not expect miracles, video playing is quite cpu intensive :)00:47
czzim trying to uninstall some programs without getting rid of the taskbar01:00
czzit demands that i remove the lubuntu-taskbar if i want to continue01:01
victoriahelp i just installed lubuntu from scratch and the wireless card is not working04:03
victoriai have a laptop compaq presario cq40-324la04:03
Mossyfunkvictoria, did you choose during the installation to install the third party software package?04:09
victorianot as far as i can remember04:09
victoriai didnt no04:09
Mossyfunkahh... it says during installation that it is needed for some wireless hardware.04:09
victoriawhat do i do then? reinstall?04:10
Mossyfunkno04:10
Mossyfunksorry is it 10.04 or 10.1004:10
Mossyfunk?04:10
victoria10.1004:10
Mossyfunkthere should be a package names "lubuntu-restricted-extras"04:10
Mossyfunkit contains all the third party software to play flash and mp3 and such04:11
victoriaok04:12
victoriasynaptic?04:12
Mossyfunkyes04:12
MossyfunkI see there are 2 packages, lubuntu-restricted-extras and lubuntu-restricted-addons04:13
MossyfunkI myself don't have any wireless hardware so this is far as I can advise you04:13
victoriaok04:13
victoriathankyou04:14
victoriahow do you make a shortcut04:14
victoriaon the desktop04:14
victorialike a launcher04:14
victoriafor firefox and chromium04:14
MossyfunkI am currently trying to work that one out myself =D04:17
victoriaoh ok04:17
victorialet me know04:17
Mossyfunksure thing =)04:17
Mossyfunkwelcome to lubuntu irc =)04:17
victoriatakk04:18
bioterrorhmm04:20
head_victimShortcuts on the desktop should be as easy as right click and create launcher?04:20
victoriai didnt see that option04:21
bioterroractually04:21
bioterrordrag n drop04:21
head_victimHmm it's not there. Sorry for that04:21
head_victimBut chromium and pcmanfm are both on the taskbar by default04:22
bioterrorokay04:24
bioterrorstart your file browser04:24
bioterrorand head to the /usr/share/applications04:25
bioterrorand drang n drop your desired application to the desktop04:25
bioterrorit should work04:25
bioterrorif it doesnt04:25
bioterrorthen "copy & paste" ;)04:25
Mossyfunkwoop tyvm bioterror04:26
bioterroryes, copy and paste works better04:26
Mossyfunkthats the folder I was looking for =)\04:26
bioterrorgotta remember it04:26
victoriai cant find the usr share apps folder04:27
bioterrorit's applications04:27
victoriait said permission denied04:30
victoriaerror moving file04:30
Mossyfunkhmmmm weird it worked for me04:30
bioterrordont move04:30
bioterrorcopy04:30
victoriaworked04:31
bioterroryeah04:31
bioterrorthere you go ;)04:31
MossyfunkAnyone else get the start menu skin sticking on left panel after its closed?04:32
MossyfunkI set up a panel on the left of the screen*04:32
bioterrorI built my router/firewall on Lubuntu 10.0404:33
bioterror:D04:33
bioterrorit took me a whole night, hahaha04:33
bioterrormrs. bioterror is sooooo going to rip her me apart04:33
bioterror-her :D04:33
bioterrorbut my system is faaast04:34
victoriaok i am going to reboot now to see if the lunbuntu extras will solve the wifi problem04:34
bioterror:-)04:34
MossyfunkATI site tells me their legacy drivers will only work on linux distrobutions pre Feb 0904:36
victoriadidnt work04:37
bioterrorofcourse it did not04:37
bioterror:-)04:37
bioterroryou should first find out which wlan chipset you have04:37
bioterrorit could help us alot04:37
bioterrormaybe in terminal "dmesg |grep wlan"04:38
bioterrorwithout ""04:38
victoriait didnt give me any output04:39
victoriajust the prompt again04:39
bioterrorokay04:40
bioterroryour kernel cant recognize the wlan04:40
victoriabut it does on the other one04:40
victoriai mean, i guess it must, because it works fine on it04:41
victoriai installed wicd and it works fine on it04:41
victoriai tried downloading the drivers from the preferences menu but they both gave errors04:41
bioterrorwha other one?04:41
victoriai have a laptop of the same model04:42
victoriai upgraded from 10.04 lubuntu to 10.1004:42
victoriaand it works fine04:42
victoriathe wireless04:42
bioterrorand that one is 10.04?04:42
victoriathis one i installed 10.10 from scratch just now04:42
bioterrorokay04:42
victorialisten i dont believe in fairy dust04:43
victoriabut i am here04:43
bioterror:-)04:43
bioterrorI'm trying to help you out04:43
bioterrorjust a moment04:43
victoriai know, i put my pants the same way everyone else does04:44
victoriaone leg at a time04:44
victoriaso no worries04:44
victoriahmm04:47
victoriai went to the preferences drivers tab again and it says broadcom sta driver is installed and currently used04:48
victoriathe atenna does seem to be on04:48
victoriabut theres no detection of wireless networks04:48
bioterrorseems to be weird04:49
bioterrorbut I have to say that I'm really tired, it's 06:49 and I haven wake up 24 hours ago04:50
victoriabioterror,04:52
head_victimvictoria: some people are reporting that it only seems to work when connected to the internet when installing http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148524704:52
victoriahttp://pastebin.com/4jdSstdE04:52
head_victimvictoria: and there is also someone who has created a little diagnostic script apparently to help out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149928904:52
victoriahead_victim, so which do you recomend i do04:53
head_victimI'd start with the diagnostic04:54
head_victimDepends on how much you have put into setting it all up, if it's still a fresh install mightn't hurt to reinstall with the ethernet connected if that's only going to be a 5 minute thing.04:54
victoriaok i will try that instead04:54
victoriabrb04:54
OLDHey08:59
bioterrorhi08:59
OLDI am in process of installing lubuntu08:59
bioterroryes08:59
OLDI notice a chroium icon (blue and white icon) is that the defaut brower installed with it?09:00
bioterroryes09:00
OLDsweet09:00
bioterrorindeed09:00
OLDits chromium and not chrome?09:00
bioterroryes, it's chromium09:01
bioterrorchrome is blue, red yellow or what was it09:01
OLDchrome is blue yellow red09:01
OLDchromium is light blue, dark blue white09:01
bioterrorchrome is almost same, but without sending logs about your activity and without bundled flashplayer09:02
bioterrorfeel free to surf ;)09:02
OLDwhich I can intall with ubuntu extras right?09:02
bioterrorwith the fastest browser you can get09:02
bioterroryes09:02
bioterrorI assume you tapped those check boxes in the beginning of installation09:02
bioterrorI did so09:03
bioterror:-)09:03
OLDoh thats what that is lol09:03
OLDI would have done the comand in terminal non the less09:03
OLDhow much sace does a total clean install take?09:13
OLDts installing as we speak09:13
MossyfunkHow do I get a rundows of used space on partitions from CLI?09:16
Mossyfunk*rundown09:16
Mossyfunkdisk manager shows capacity but nopt available space09:19
Mossyfunk*disk utility09:19
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Mossyfunk/dev/sda2              23G  1.9G   20G   9% /09:21
Mossyfunk1.9GB for fresh install of 10.1009:21
MonthOLDpicklethanks thats light!09:23
Mossyfunkindeed09:29
MonthOLDpickleits taking forever =(09:31
MossyfunkI installed from usb drive ZOOM! =)09:32
MonthOLDpicklemine is from usb09:32
MonthOLDpickleno cd drive on this lol09:32
MonthOLDpicklewoo done09:32
bioterrorCD is so 80's09:42
MonthOLDpicklelol its a dell mini 909:42
bioterrorI'm using Dell Latitude D42009:43
bioterrorand my docking bay is 30km away from ;)09:43
MonthOLDpickledocking bay as in kb, mouse external monitor on it?09:45
MonthOLDpickleAlso I don't need to do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?09:45
bioterrorlubuntu-restricted-extras09:46
bioterroryou can install that one09:46
Mossyfunkwhats the difference between lubuntu-restricted-extras and lubuntu-restricted-addons?09:46
bioterrorlubuntu tries to dodge gnome packages ;)09:47
MonthOLDpickleso that is the difference?09:47
MonthOLDpicklebetween extras and addons?09:47
bioterrorwell09:48
bioterrorI havent done dpkg -L for both of those packages09:48
bioterrorbut lubuntu is suggested to use with lubuntu09:48
bioterrorlet's have a look09:49
bioterrorlubuntu09:49
bioterrorDepends: lubuntu-restricted-addons09:49
bioterrorRecommends: ttf-mscorefonts-installer, unrar, libavcodec-extra-52, libmp4v2-009:49
bioterrorFilename: pool/universe/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/lubuntu-restricted-extras_42_i386.deb09:49
bioterrorand the ubuntu09:50
bioterrorRecommends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, ttf-mscorefonts-installer, unrar, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, libavcodec-extra-52, libmp4v2-009:50
bioterrorFilename: pool/multiverse/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/ubuntu-restricted-extras_42_i386.deb09:50
MonthOLDpickleoh hummm09:51
MonthOLDpickleDo I even need to do extras and addons?09:52
MonthOLDpickleAlso everytime I boot up and my card auto connects I have to use a keyring?09:52
Mossyfunkonly if you plan to use proprietry software ie play mp3's or watch youtube videos09:52
bioterrorMonthOLDpickle, edit the connection and tap the Available for all users09:53
MonthOLDpickleyoutube works in chromium already09:53
bioterrorthen it doesnt ask for the keyring anymore09:53
bioterrorand connects automatically (if you have tapped that checkbox too, by default it should be tapped)09:53
MonthOLDpickleI want to instll bot sentry for pidgin09:57
MonthOLDpicklehow do I search in terminal09:57
bioterrorsearch what09:57
MonthOLDpicklebot sentrtry09:57
bioterrorapt-get packages or files on your filesystem09:57
MonthOLDpickledon't know exact full name09:57
bioterrorapt-cache search pidgin |grep sentry09:58
MonthOLDpickle thanks10:01
bioterrornp10:01
bioterrorapt-cache > synaptic ;)10:02
bioterrorand you can do a search like this10:02
bioterrorapt-cache search pidgin |more10:02
bioterrorapt-cache show pidgin-bot-sentry10:03
bioterrorhi hyperair10:04
hyperairbioterror: hello.10:05
MonthOLDpickleHey10:05
MonthOLDpickleI just noticed hitting the power button does nothing on the laptop but I just turned the laptop off10:06
bioterror:D10:06
bioterrorbut now I have to flee10:07
bioterrorlaters ;)10:07
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|friTTe|\O/11:54
head_victimThis is the second Lubuntu install that has tried to log me into a "Default" but only works when you change that session to "Lubuntu"12:03
Mossyfunkweird12:04
head_victimAt least I didn't make it auto login like I did on my first one. Made it harder to find the error.12:04
MossyfunkHow do I generate a new openPGP key in lubuntu? the launchpad.net instructions assume you are using gnome12:05
Mossyfunkwell.. ubuntu-desktop12:05
head_victimShould be the same?12:06
|friTTe|its just the text editor that differs12:07
|friTTe|gedit in gnome and leafpad in lxde12:07
MossyfunkThe easiest way to generate a new OpenPGP key in Ubuntu is to use the Passwords and Encryption Keys tool.12:07
MossyfunkStep 1: Open Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys.12:07
MossyfunkStep 2: Select File > New, select PGP Key and then follow the on-screen instructions.12:07
MossyfunkNow you'll see your new key listed in the Passwords and Encryption Keys tool.12:07
|friTTe|Mossyfunk,  i know i struggled when i signed that one12:07
|friTTe|oh12:08
|friTTe|yeah12:08
|friTTe|hmm well we better try to sort that out, i dont know tbh12:08
head_victimhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto12:09
Mossyfunkheh yeah was just reading through that12:10
MossyfunkI seem to have this part of my brain broken where I don't see something right in front of me until I ask someone else lol12:11
|friTTe|i know the feeling =)12:11
Mossyfunkhead_victim, |friTTe|, ty12:11
Mossyfunk=)12:11
Mossyfunk<312:11
head_victimMossyfunk: it's what we're here for :)12:11
|friTTe|:)12:11
kosaidpohello guys14:09
kosaidpoany recommendation for a light rss reader ?14:09
bioterrorif you replace your sylpheed with clawsmail you can install claws-mail-feeds-reader14:10
head_victimHmm there is a RSS extension for Chrome, looking to see if it works for Chromium14:11
kosaidpobioterror: hi well infact im lookin for some client specific to rss only you kno14:11
kosaidponoo i mean adesktop client you got14:11
kosaidpoit does i use it14:11
|friTTe|use google reader14:12
kosaidpowell i wanna get a client so if i dont have the net i can still read14:12
|friTTe|ook14:12
|friTTe|kosaidpo,  http://www.rss-specifications.com/rss-reader-linux.htm14:14
|friTTe|theres some diff ones14:14
kosaidpo|friTTe|:  thanks : )14:14
|friTTe|ive been using Liferea couple of times. that one is pretty nice14:15
|friTTe|http://liferea.sourceforge.net/14:15
|friTTe|i like thtat one, nice looking layout14:15
kosaidpois it light ??14:16
|friTTe|gtk/gnome14:17
|friTTe|i had gnome when i tried it but14:17
|friTTe|dont seem to be heavy14:17
kosaidpoyeh i saw gnome thats why i asked ill give it a try ?14:18
kosaidpobtw guys14:18
|friTTe|yeah14:18
kosaidpoanyone here using hotot ?? it doesnt support list yet or only me idk  from to get it14:18
|friTTe|check out what dependencies it wanna install14:18
kosaidpoyehh14:19
|friTTe|some wanna add gnome stuff14:19
|friTTe|no havent tried it14:19
|friTTe|switched on my android from seesmic to tweetdeck14:19
|friTTe|gonna check out some alts for my desktop14:19
kosaidpowelli find hotot way col and light then tweetdeck tho14:20
kosaidpotweetteck too much unusfull options14:20
|friTTe|ok14:22
|friTTe|works good with Lubuntu?14:23
|friTTe|hootot14:23
kosaidpofrit yesss14:25
kosaidpois very cool with my memory ram14:26
|friTTe|alright =D will check it out then14:27
kosaidpoim kinda sure you ll adopt it14:29
Mossyfunkshould I trust apt-get telling me that packages such as reiserfsprogs rdate python-webkit localechooser-data14:32
Mossyfunk  ecryptfs-utils are no longer needed? why the hell are they there on a clean install if they are not needed? and why would I remove filesystem tools?14:32
bioterroryes14:32
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kosaidpo1hello15:04
kosaidpo1guys i dl lifearea now so is there any way to link it with my google reader ??15:04
kosaidpo1or like configure chomuim to subscribe me but using lifearea ?15:04
MossyfunkIs there a way to setup sylpheed to automatically decrypt pgp encrypted emails?16:14
Mossyfunkor do I need to export to file and dfo it manually16:14
MossyfunkI seemingly can set it to automatically encrypt emails I send so I should be able to set it to do the reverse no?16:18
CrackerJackzis anyone around?16:35
bioterroryep16:35
MossyfunkHey CrackerJackz =)16:35
CrackerJackzMossyfunk, i have an old computer that has a 300 mhz processor, 128 mb of ram, and a 6 GB hard drive16:36
CrackerJackzi'm looking for a linux distrabution that's right for me16:36
bioterrorif you can boot lubuntu 10.10 with your computer, you've found the correct one16:36
CrackerJackzbioterror, well i'm just concerned about the hard drive space16:36
bioterrorLubuntu takes 1.8GB with fresh installation16:37
Mossyfunk"Minimum requirements for lubuntu are comparable to Pentium II or Celeron systems with a 128 Mb RAM configuration, which may yield a slow yet usable system with lubuntu."16:37
CrackerJackzbioterror, even after updates only 1.8gb?16:37
bioterroryes16:37
CrackerJackzcan you think of anything that might be better than lubuntu for my scenerio?16:38
bioterrorwell16:38
CrackerJackzi was thinking dsl maybe16:38
bioterrorafter lubuntu comes Salix OS, which is based on Slackware16:38
CrackerJackzand slackware is similar to debian i think16:38
CrackerJackzit uses apt-get for package management right?16:38
bioterrorit's i486 optimized and also has a LXDE version of it16:38
bioterrorit uses slapt-get16:38
CrackerJackzabout how much space does slackware take up?16:39
bioterrorbut ubuntu can provide alot more programs16:39
bioterrorhmmm16:39
CrackerJackzwell the computer is only going to be used for checking email, watching youtube videos, listening to music16:39
bioterrorit's almost the same16:39
bioterror6GB is enough16:40
bioterrorbut you should go with the lubuntu, and think salix as a plan b16:40
CrackerJackzhow hard do you think it would be to get thi cisco aironet 350 series wireless adapter to work with it?16:40
bioterrorI gotta hit the shower, my daughter is yelling at me :d16:41
bioterrorlaters16:41
CrackerJackzbioterror, okay. thank you for your advice16:42
Mossyfunklater bioterror =)16:45
MossyfunkCrackerJackz, I am a newbie can't help much sorry16:46
CrackerJackzMossyfunk, that's okay16:46
Mossyfunklubuntu is ultra fast on my P4 though compared to other distros16:47
CrackerJackzMossyfunk, i have gentoo on the computer i'm using now..16:51
CrackerJackzbut i have this old computer that has a pentium 2 processor, 128 mb of ram and 6gb of hard drive space16:52
bioterrorgentoo, you should be advanced user then17:07
bioterror;)17:07
bioterroreven I dislike the gentoo installation from scratch17:07
MossyfunkI gave it a go, but figured "whats the bloody point" and installed lubuntu =)17:09
MossyfunkI will follow LFS book in the future to learn but for now I'm happy here17:10
CrackerJackzbioterror, i'm still learning actually17:18
CrackerJackzgentoo was my very first distro17:18
CrackerJackzubuntu my second17:18
CrackerJackzactually i take that back17:18
CrackerJackzwhen i was 13 i installed mandrake on a computer of mine17:19
CrackerJackzbut never knew how to work it17:19
bioterrordid you install gentoo with chrooting and stuff like that? or did you use installer/livecd?17:19
CrackerJackzdidnt know how to open up any of my files or anything17:19
CrackerJackzso i just said screw it17:19
CrackerJackzstopped using it17:19
CrackerJackzcouldnt even get it on the internet17:19
CrackerJackzthen when i was like 18.. 19 years old17:19
CrackerJackzi met someone and they started teaching me about linux17:19
CrackerJackzthey had me install gentoo lol17:20
CrackerJackzbioterror, i used the live cd17:20
CrackerJackzfirst gentoo install my friend installed for me17:20
CrackerJackzfrom several states away17:20
CrackerJackzhe had me setup ssh17:20
CrackerJackzand screen17:20
CrackerJackzand he ssh'd in17:21
bioterroryes17:21
CrackerJackzand ran screen on my computer so that i could see what he was doing17:21
CrackerJackzit was pretty cool actually17:21
bioterrorbut you missed the educational part of it ;)17:21
CrackerJackzi've installed gentoo on other computrs since then though17:21
CrackerJackzi will admit it is a bit of a pain in the ass to compile your own kernel from source if you don't know what you're doing17:21
CrackerJackztheres no way i coulda installed gentoo by my self the first time.. i knew absolutely nothing about linux17:22
CrackerJackzother than it was an operating system17:22
bioterrorbut hey17:22
bioterrorif we wanna chat about this more, you should join #lubuntu-offtopic17:23
bioterrorthis is for the helping ;)17:23
CrackerJackzokay17:23
pip_I've upgraded to 10.10 cos my live cd kept crashing, now I only have 1 theme.  Help18:15
bioterror1 theme18:15
bioterroryou mean the default lubuntu theme?18:15
pip_1 theme, clearlooks18:15
pip_I'd like the new pretty default one18:15
bioterroryou should get it18:16
pip_it's been a bit of a nightmare, not being able to clean install18:17
bioterrorhmmm18:17
bioterrorwhat if you say18:18
bioterrorsudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop18:18
bioterrorwe could start with this one18:18
pip_aha, i'll give it a go18:20
pip_already newest version18:20
pip_its a bit weird I did an upgrde a day or so ago, which gave me the new theme18:20
bioterrorokay18:20
pip_then i borked the system & had to reinstall 10.04 & upgrade again18:21
MonthOLDpickleHey guys18:25
MonthOLDpickleOn wireless I go to edit to make the keyring not pop up I don't see a "enable for all users"18:25
MonthOLDpicklehey what do I add for bluetooth? gnome-bluetooth or bkluez ones?18:29
bioterrortry to avoid gnome ;)18:30
bioterrorthat's what I think in the first place18:30
MOPsorry experimenting18:33
MOPso for bluetooth support on lubuntu what would I add?18:33
MOPOr do I do the extras and addons and that gets it?18:34
MonthOLDpicklejust trying to get my bluetooth working18:37
MonthOLDpickleall I find is info on ubuntu and how to pair phone with lubuntu18:38
MonthOLDpickleI got blueman installed...18:41
MonthOLDpickleAll I fidn is ubuntu raawwwrrrrr18:43
pip_it's early days for this distro yet, I think18:43
MonthOLDpicklerestarting18:44
MonthOLDpicklew000t18:46
MonthOLDpickledecision estimated guessing works!18:47
MonthOLDpickleexcept the icon goes away when you disable it -.-18:47
MonthOLDpicklethats going to be annoying lol!18:50
pip_I guess I can live with only one theme18:52
pip_everything works18:53
pip_even if i cant find the new control centre in synaptic :-)18:53
pip_ttfn guys18:54
mark76Pip pip18:54
MonthOLDpickleI use a bluetooth mouse18:54
MonthOLDpickleevery now and than I dsiable to save battery18:54
MonthOLDpickleI disable the bluetooth to save battery and sometimes turn it back on to use a mouse18:58
MonthOLDpickleI sho0uldn't need to restart everytime -.p18:58
slow-motionafter stopping the film and pressing play on youtube the film starts to "hang" but the sound continous19:00
slow-motionhas someone an idea how to solve that?19:02
bioterrormaybe something wrong with the flash19:02
* bioterror is waiting for the html519:03
slow-motioni set the space used for buffer in the flash settings to 10mb. at the moment it seemed to be the solution19:06
phillwslow-motion: try using the html5 trial on you-tube instead of flash.19:12
phillwslow-motion: http://www.youtube.com/html519:14
slow-motionyes i know that site19:14
slow-motionhtml5 produces wrong colours with chromium 8.0.556.0 (62835)19:14
phillwslow-motion: is that the stable, or daily build?19:16
MonthOLDpicklefffffffffffffffffff19:17
MonthOLDpickleI am going to reinstall lol19:17
MonthOLDpickletrying to get the bluetooth manager to stay on even with bt is turned off19:17
MonthOLDpickleinstalled kubuntu and ubuntu stuff19:17
MonthOLDpickle-.-19:18
czzsometime when i reboot my computer, my networking devices doesn't pick up eth0119:19
czzand i have to reboot to correct this issue19:19
MonthOLDpicklehow do you get flash drives to mount ?19:19
phillwMonthOLDpickle: pcmanfm should automount them19:22
slow-motionphillw the daily19:22
phillwslow-motion: i'd suggest filing a bug against it, the guy who chases up chromium bugs is a star and you will get a reply.19:23
phillwhe can have a bug fix out within 24 hours.19:23
slow-motionthe flash is dropping frames19:24
MonthOLDpickleso yea19:25
MonthOLDpicklebluetooth only turns on rebooting19:25
MonthOLDpickleAND non of the usb drives are seen19:26
MonthOLDpicklefml19:26
phillwMonthOLDpickle: I've never had a problem with pcmanfm and flash drives... So I'm a bit puzzled :\19:28
MonthOLDpickledisk part sees it but I tried formatting it and no fat32 option19:29
MonthOLDpicklerapiid pulling out and outting it made it pop up19:30
MonthOLDpicklejust need to figure out bluetooth19:31
slow-motionphillw the video i play with mplayer has the same problems20:14
phillwchances are it is still in flash format.20:14
KurdistanHey girls :)20:23
bioterrorsorry to dissapoint you but... ;)20:24
Kurdistanhaha bioterror how are you? hur går det med svenskan?20:24
bioterrorgår mycket bra, tack.20:25
Kurdistanhaha du äger.20:25
bioterrorjag mår bra.20:25
Kurdistanhärligt. :)20:25
bioterrordu?20:25
Kurdistanjag mår bra om några timmar. ifall resultaten blir som jag hoppas. :)20:26
phillwKurdistan: /join #lubuntu-offtopic20:26
|friTTe|Kurdistan,  vika resultat?20:41
|friTTe|*vilka20:41
kosaidpohello guys21:15
phillwhiyas kosaidpo21:17
kosaidpophillw: hows you and your lubuntu mine is cool : )21:17
phillwkosaidpo: I'm still running 9.10 ubuntu, as I have no broadband here :'( Still waiting it to be put in21:18
kosaidpoas in u dont have net on this pc i read earlier abt an app that you cud use to dl updates21:19
phillwI can run lubuntu, but none of the family after the early release of 9.10 will work with my 3G device21:19
kosaidpoto update a pc with no net21:19
phillwkosaidpo: no, I would have no internet at all. No email, no IRC etc.21:20
kosaidpophillw: sorry i didnt get you you mean ur device doesnt work with other ten 9.10 ??21:20
phillwindeed, and then not if you do kernel update.21:21
phillwI've had to turn off all updates.21:21
phillwI will not know for 4 weeks if I am staying at this pub, so cannot order broadband.21:22
kosaidpoohh thats so not good21:22
bioterror9.10 is still going to be supported for a while21:22
bioterrorno problems! ;)21:22
phillwit is, but it's not lubuntu :(21:23
bioterrorhaha21:23
kosaidpophillw: so i guess you runnin slowly : ) you cant catch us im happy with my lubuntu again21:23
kosaidpo:D21:23
phillwkosaidpo: I have 2GB of RAM, so my laptop runs quite well ;)21:24
phillwI just prefer lubuntu, I do not have LAMP server or anything on this installation.21:24
kosaidpoOhh dude i tho ur were complainin Haaha so you can ride it well then21:25
kosaidpowell since i discovred lubntu i get sticked with it21:25
phillwkosaidpo: /join #lubuntu-offtopic21:27
kosaidpoohh i tho i added to auto-join  te lst time21:27
kosaidpo /join #lubuntu-offtopic21:27
bioterrorthat was fast21:29
Kurdistanguys lubuntu system monitor is crap, to be honest. I prefer gnomes system monitor.22:00
bioterroryou're so demanding!22:01
Kurdistan:P yes thats me, but the good thing with lubuntu it is minimalistic.22:02
KurdistanI can make my own :) lubuntu22:03
bioterrorgordon ramsay always says 'less is more'22:03
Kurdistanbioterror, I only say what I think. Nobody is worsing to do like me or think like I think22:09
bioterroryou mean the task manager?22:10
Kurdistanbioterror yes22:10
bioterrorha22:11
bioterrorsudo apt-get install htop22:11
bioterror:-)22:11
bioterrorsudo apt-get install bmon22:11
Kurdistanwhat is htop and bmon?22:11
bioterrorhtop for processes, bmon for bandwith22:12
Kurdistanokey. thats like applet?22:12
bioterrorsoftware for console/terminal22:13
Kurdistanlol, my bad, htop is like command line top?22:13
bioterroryeah22:13
bioterrorbut "better"22:14
Kurdistanis it?22:14
Kurdistancool I will try22:14
bioterroroh yeah22:14
Kurdistanit does not work. thats wierd.22:15
bioterrorhow so?22:15
bioterrorhttp://ricecows.org/hhhtop.png22:15
Kurdistanbioterror no clue it does not start up22:16
bioterrorif you say in terminal "htop"22:17
bioterrorwhat does it say?22:17
Kurdistanthen it comes up22:17
bioterroras it should ;)22:17
KurdistanOkey then it is like top22:17
KurdistanI thougt it is a tool like lubuntus task manager or gnome system monitor22:18
bioterrorit's a tool!22:18
bioterror;)22:18
bioterrorif you decide to use server or something, it's really handy to use from ssh22:19
Kurdistanyeah it is cool but I prefer gnome system monitor22:19
Kurdistanand htop is better then lubuntus taskmanager22:19
Kurdistanlubuntu will :) be better with time.22:20
Kurdistanbioterror thx any way it is handy tool22:20
bioterrorand looks good if you have as many cpu's as I have ;)22:21
KurdistanI have 2 processor22:22
Kurdistanmy laptop is bang-fast, solid stable and light. :)22:23
Kurdistanlubuntu-fast+light=true22:24
Kurdistanlubuntu+fast+light+tweak_it=kurdistans laptop22:24
Kurdistan:)22:24
Kurdistanbioterror does bootchart works for you under lubuntu?22:25
bioterroryou mean GRUB?22:25
Kurdistanthe time I get from bootchart is wrong22:25
Kurdistanbootchart is a tool that takes upstart time/boot time22:26
bioterrorahhh22:26
Kurdistanyou get picture :) with result etc22:26
bioterrorhavent tried22:26
kosaidpoguys i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/514643/ when i  try to launch blogtk22:26
Kurdistanbioterror iits cool tool22:26
bioterrorkosaidpo, apt-cache search gtkhtml22:28
Kurdistanbioterror=guru :)22:29
kosaidpobioterror: got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/514645/22:30
Kurdistanbioterror :) I take back, htop is really goddie22:31
bioterrorkosaidpo, Depends: python, python-central (>= 0.6.11), python-gtk2 (>= 1.19.13-3), python-gnome2 (>= 1.19.13-3), python-glade2 (>= 1.19.13-3)22:31
bioterrorit doesnt say that it would need gtkhtml222:31
Kurdistanbioterror how can I look when I remove appz22:32
bioterrorlook what?22:32
Kurdistanif I want to remove the depends thing to22:32
Kurdistanlike gnome system monitor22:32
bioterroryou want to remove the dependencys which you got with the gnome system monitor?22:33
bioterroryou want that listing?22:33
Kurdistanyes22:33
Kurdistanexactly22:33
kosaidpobioterror: is it to me ?22:33
bioterrorsudo apt-cache show <package> |more22:33
bioterrorahh22:33
bioterroryou dont need sudo22:33
bioterrorbut it doesnt matter either22:34
Kurdistanbioterror the command line was to me?22:34
bioterrorKurdistan, yes22:34
kosaidpobioterror: im sorry but ididnt get what you said22:34
bioterrorkosaidpo, something wrong with that blogging software if it complains about that22:35
bioterrorkosaidpo, you can email your error message: Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>22:36
bioterrorthey can possible helpo you out22:36
kosaidpobioterror: infact i did try this app a long time agao n got this error and its still the same till now ican say22:37
kosaidpoits not maintained anymor i guess22:37
bioterrorhmmm22:37
bioterrorI'm trying that out22:40
bioterrorhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/blogtk/+bug/59345622:41
ubot5Launchpad bug 593456 in BloGTK "BlogGTK won't start (affected: 2, heat: 2)" [Undecided,Won't fix]22:41
Kurdistanbioterror thx22:42
kosaidpobioterror: is there a fix for it ?22:42
bioterrorno ppa for the maverick22:42
bioterrorkosaidpo, but you're running 10.04, you can enjoy working blogtk22:43
Kurdistanapt-get build-dep  <<<--- is the same?22:43
kosaidpobioterror: no im runnin 10.1022:44
bioterroryou have to wait till the developer upgrades22:44
JoeMaverickSettkosaidpo: yeah, that ppa is for lucid. i forgot to mention. :/22:44
kosaidpotoo bad then : (22:45
kosaidpoill try to find another one22:45
JoeMaverickSettkosaidpo: yeah, that would be your best chance.22:46
kosaidpoyeah22:46
Kurdistanbioterror thx for the command, veery handy :)22:50
KurdistanI really like htop. :) damn good tool22:51
* phillw loves ppa-purge :D22:55
phillwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#ppa-purge22:57
Kurdistanhave nice evening you all.22:59
kosaidpoqtm suck balls really hard23:01
kosaidpoguys any recommendation for a blog client ?23:01
JoeMaverickSettkosaidpo: derivel?23:01
JoeMaverickSettkosaidpo: *Drivel23:02
kosaidpoyeh but its too simple no tags i guess or anythin  many features are not in it23:02
kosaidpoi test it along time ago to23:02
syst3mcan anyone help me with an installation on an older computer?23:02
JoeMaverickSettkosaidpo: then i got no idea. :/23:03
kosaidpoJoeMaverickSett: hihi thanks a lot : )23:03
phillwsyst3m: what are the specifications of the computer ?23:06
syst3mphillw: intel celeron processer 2.40 GHZ and i think 256 mb ram23:09
kosaidpoguys peace out23:09
kosaidpohave fun23:09
phillwsyst3m: do you have an ethernet connection with it?23:09
phillwsyst3m: my IRC client is pretty basic, please reply in here; thanks.23:11
syst3mphillw: kinda, got an old router working as a receiver, so it works as if its wired23:11
syst3mphillw: and sry bout that, dont really no my way around irc that well23:12
=== JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett
phillwsyst3m: at 256MB you *can* use the standard install CD, it will just take a while, you may find it faster to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall23:13
syst3mphillw: I have been trying the standard CD and most times i cant even get the installation menu to show up. and the one time it looked like it was working i got a partition error23:16
bioterroryou cant double click?23:17
bioterroror wha23:17
phillwsyst3m: try with the minimal method, also do check the CD has burned okay.23:17
phillwsyst3m: else you're on hiding to nothing, trying to install from a 'bad' CD23:17
syst3mphillw: will do. about the mini cd, does it matter that it was created in april? well it still get 10.10?23:20
phillwsyst3m: let me just check23:27
phillwsyst3m: my bad, I missed that one; give me a few minutes.23:27
phillwsyst3m: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ is the maverick one.... drat I missed one on the wiki area :(23:28
syst3mphillw: no problem, at least i know what to use now.23:30
* phillw links updated23:30
syst3mphillw: Im trying the the mini cd now, and after selecting comand-line install its just sitting the23:46
phillwpress enter again, it may take a few seconds to respond.23:48
phillwthose are my 10.04 instructions, I may need to re-write them for 10.10 but I am not expecting any major change on how the mini-iso works :\23:49
syst3mwhen i press enter (first time), some barely readable green texts pops up at the top, the menu still visable23:49
syst3mafter a while it disappeared and everything was frozen23:50
phillwthat sounds like a graphics problem, else the cd is corrupt.23:51
phillwyou're not trying to use 64bit on your computer?23:51
syst3mi think its a graphic issue, and no23:52
syst3mim using 32bit23:52
phillwhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux23:53
phillwI haven't got a 10.10 boot cd for mini iso downloaded and tested on my computer.23:54
phillwAs I have no ethernet here, I cannot re-test the instructions with 10.10. You may want to try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ once lubuntu 10.04 is on, you can upgrade to 10.10 anyways.23:57
syst3mi just went into advance options and tried comand-line expert on the mini23:57
phillwand I know the 10.04 method works fine :)23:57
syst3mit opened, should i try that?23:57
phillwsyst3m: give it a go, I have not had chance to test it as I'm on a 3G device and you need ethernet for the mini-iso23:58

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