[00:17] <czz> it's a lot smoother than ubuntu netbook remix
[00:22] <|friTTe|> =)
[00:23] <|friTTe|> and you can still configurate it so it looks the way you want
[00:23] <|friTTe|> and still its fast
[00:30] <czz> chromium seems to want all my cpu while on youtube
[00:30] <phillw> czz: are you using flash?
[00:30] <bioterror> I'm not suprised
[00:30] <bioterror> flash eats a lot of cpu
[00:31] <phillw> you can sign up for the html5 trial with you-tube, http://www.youtube.com/html5
[00:34] <czz> yes, im using flash.
[00:36] <phillw> czz: try the html5 testing out and see how you get on. html5 will eventually phase out flash.
[00:44] <czz> about a 25-30% improvement
[00:45] <czz> pretty solid for beta
[00:47] <phillw> I know some people have found it does make a pretty decent improvement, but html5 is still in its own beta stage, so do not expect miracles, video playing is quite cpu intensive :)
[01:00] <czz> im trying to uninstall some programs without getting rid of the taskbar
[01:01] <czz> it demands that i remove the lubuntu-taskbar if i want to continue
[04:03] <victoria> help i just installed lubuntu from scratch and the wireless card is not working
[04:03] <victoria> i have a laptop compaq presario cq40-324la
[04:09] <Mossyfunk> victoria, did you choose during the installation to install the third party software package?
[04:09] <victoria> not as far as i can remember
[04:09] <victoria> i didnt no
[04:09] <Mossyfunk> ahh... it says during installation that it is needed for some wireless hardware.
[04:10] <victoria> what do i do then? reinstall?
[04:10] <Mossyfunk> no
[04:10] <Mossyfunk> sorry is it 10.04 or 10.10
[04:10] <Mossyfunk> ?
[04:10] <victoria> 10.10
[04:10] <Mossyfunk> there should be a package names "lubuntu-restricted-extras"
[04:11] <Mossyfunk> it contains all the third party software to play flash and mp3 and such
[04:12] <victoria> ok
[04:12] <victoria> synaptic?
[04:12] <Mossyfunk> yes
[04:13] <Mossyfunk> I see there are 2 packages, lubuntu-restricted-extras and lubuntu-restricted-addons
[04:13] <Mossyfunk> I myself don't have any wireless hardware so this is far as I can advise you
[04:13] <victoria> ok
[04:14] <victoria> thankyou
[04:14] <victoria> how do you make a shortcut
[04:14] <victoria> on the desktop
[04:14] <victoria> like a launcher
[04:14] <victoria> for firefox and chromium
[04:17] <Mossyfunk> I am currently trying to work that one out myself =D
[04:17] <victoria> oh ok
[04:17] <victoria> let me know
[04:17] <Mossyfunk> sure thing =)
[04:17] <Mossyfunk> welcome to lubuntu irc =)
[04:18] <victoria> takk
[04:20] <bioterror> hmm
[04:20] <head_victim> Shortcuts on the desktop should be as easy as right click and create launcher?
[04:21] <victoria> i didnt see that option
[04:21] <bioterror> actually
[04:21] <bioterror> drag n drop
[04:21] <head_victim> Hmm it's not there. Sorry for that
[04:22] <head_victim> But chromium and pcmanfm are both on the taskbar by default
[04:24] <bioterror> okay
[04:24] <bioterror> start your file browser
[04:25] <bioterror> and head to the /usr/share/applications
[04:25] <bioterror> and drang n drop your desired application to the desktop
[04:25] <bioterror> it should work
[04:25] <bioterror> if it doesnt
[04:25] <bioterror> then "copy & paste" ;)
[04:26] <Mossyfunk> woop tyvm bioterror
[04:26] <bioterror> yes, copy and paste works better
[04:26] <Mossyfunk> thats the folder I was looking for =)\
[04:26] <bioterror> gotta remember it
[04:27] <victoria> i cant find the usr share apps folder
[04:27] <bioterror> it's applications
[04:30] <victoria> it said permission denied
[04:30] <victoria> error moving file
[04:30] <Mossyfunk> hmmmm weird it worked for me
[04:30] <bioterror> dont move
[04:30] <bioterror> copy
[04:31] <victoria> worked
[04:31] <bioterror> yeah
[04:31] <bioterror> there you go ;)
[04:32] <Mossyfunk> Anyone else get the start menu skin sticking on left panel after its closed?
[04:32] <Mossyfunk> I set up a panel on the left of the screen*
[04:33] <bioterror> I built my router/firewall on Lubuntu 10.04
[04:33] <bioterror> :D
[04:33] <bioterror> it took me a whole night, hahaha
[04:33] <bioterror> mrs. bioterror is sooooo going to rip her me apart
[04:33] <bioterror> -her :D
[04:34] <bioterror> but my system is faaast
[04:34] <victoria> ok i am going to reboot now to see if the lunbuntu extras will solve the wifi problem
[04:34] <bioterror> :-)
[04:36] <Mossyfunk> ATI site tells me their legacy drivers will only work on linux distrobutions pre Feb 09
[04:37] <victoria> didnt work
[04:37] <bioterror> ofcourse it did not
[04:37] <bioterror> :-)
[04:37] <bioterror> you should first find out which wlan chipset you have
[04:37] <bioterror> it could help us alot
[04:38] <bioterror> maybe in terminal "dmesg |grep wlan"
[04:38] <bioterror> without ""
[04:39] <victoria> it didnt give me any output
[04:39] <victoria> just the prompt again
[04:40] <bioterror> okay
[04:40] <bioterror> your kernel cant recognize the wlan
[04:40] <victoria> but it does on the other one
[04:41] <victoria> i mean, i guess it must, because it works fine on it
[04:41] <victoria> i installed wicd and it works fine on it
[04:41] <victoria> i tried downloading the drivers from the preferences menu but they both gave errors
[04:41] <bioterror> wha other one?
[04:42] <victoria> i have a laptop of the same model
[04:42] <victoria> i upgraded from 10.04 lubuntu to 10.10
[04:42] <victoria> and it works fine
[04:42] <victoria> the wireless
[04:42] <bioterror> and that one is 10.04?
[04:42] <victoria> this one i installed 10.10 from scratch just now
[04:42] <bioterror> okay
[04:43] <victoria> listen i dont believe in fairy dust
[04:43] <victoria> but i am here
[04:43] <bioterror> :-)
[04:43] <bioterror> I'm trying to help you out
[04:43] <bioterror> just a moment
[04:44] <victoria> i know, i put my pants the same way everyone else does
[04:44] <victoria> one leg at a time
[04:44] <victoria> so no worries
[04:47] <victoria> hmm
[04:48] <victoria> i went to the preferences drivers tab again and it says broadcom sta driver is installed and currently used
[04:48] <victoria> the atenna does seem to be on
[04:48] <victoria> but theres no detection of wireless networks
[04:49] <bioterror> seems to be weird
[04:50] <bioterror> but I have to say that I'm really tired, it's 06:49 and I haven wake up 24 hours ago
[04:52] <victoria> bioterror,
[04:52] <head_victim> victoria: some people are reporting that it only seems to work when connected to the internet when installing http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485247
[04:52] <victoria> http://pastebin.com/4jdSstdE
[04:52] <head_victim> victoria: and there is also someone who has created a little diagnostic script apparently to help out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499289
[04:53] <victoria> head_victim, so which do you recomend i do
[04:54] <head_victim> I'd start with the diagnostic
[04:54] <head_victim> Depends on how much you have put into setting it all up, if it's still a fresh install mightn't hurt to reinstall with the ethernet connected if that's only going to be a 5 minute thing.
[04:54] <victoria> ok i will try that instead
[04:54] <victoria> brb
[08:59] <OLD> Hey
[08:59] <bioterror> hi
[08:59] <OLD> I am in process of installing lubuntu
[08:59] <bioterror> yes
[09:00] <OLD> I notice a chroium icon (blue and white icon) is that the defaut brower installed with it?
[09:00] <bioterror> yes
[09:00] <OLD> sweet
[09:00] <bioterror> indeed
[09:00] <OLD> its chromium and not chrome?
[09:01] <bioterror> yes, it's chromium
[09:01] <bioterror> chrome is blue, red yellow or what was it
[09:01] <OLD> chrome is blue yellow red
[09:01] <OLD> chromium is light blue, dark blue white
[09:02] <bioterror> chrome is almost same, but without sending logs about your activity and without bundled flashplayer
[09:02] <bioterror> feel free to surf ;)
[09:02] <OLD> which I can intall with ubuntu extras right?
[09:02] <bioterror> with the fastest browser you can get
[09:02] <bioterror> yes
[09:02] <bioterror> I assume you tapped those check boxes in the beginning of installation
[09:03] <bioterror> I did so
[09:03] <bioterror> :-)
[09:03] <OLD> oh thats what that is lol
[09:03] <OLD> I would have done the comand in terminal non the less
[09:13] <OLD> how much sace does a total clean install take?
[09:13] <OLD> ts installing as we speak
[09:16] <Mossyfunk> How do I get a rundows of used space on partitions from CLI?
[09:16] <Mossyfunk> *rundown
[09:19] <Mossyfunk> disk manager shows capacity but nopt available space
[09:19] <Mossyfunk> *disk utility
[09:21] <Mossyfunk> /dev/sda2              23G  1.9G   20G   9% /
[09:21] <Mossyfunk> 1.9GB for fresh install of 10.10
[09:23] <MonthOLDpickle> thanks thats light!
[09:29] <Mossyfunk> indeed
[09:31] <MonthOLDpickle> its taking forever =(
[09:32] <Mossyfunk> I installed from usb drive ZOOM! =)
[09:32] <MonthOLDpickle> mine is from usb
[09:32] <MonthOLDpickle> no cd drive on this lol
[09:32] <MonthOLDpickle> woo done
[09:42] <bioterror> CD is so 80's
[09:42] <MonthOLDpickle> lol its a dell mini 9
[09:43] <bioterror> I'm using Dell Latitude D420
[09:43] <bioterror> and my docking bay is 30km away from ;)
[09:45] <MonthOLDpickle> docking bay as in kb, mouse external monitor on it?
[09:45] <MonthOLDpickle> Also I don't need to do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[09:46] <bioterror> lubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:46] <bioterror> you can install that one
[09:46] <Mossyfunk> whats the difference between lubuntu-restricted-extras and lubuntu-restricted-addons?
[09:47] <bioterror> lubuntu tries to dodge gnome packages ;)
[09:47] <MonthOLDpickle> so that is the difference?
[09:47] <MonthOLDpickle> between extras and addons?
[09:48] <bioterror> well
[09:48] <bioterror> I havent done dpkg -L for both of those packages
[09:48] <bioterror> but lubuntu is suggested to use with lubuntu
[09:49] <bioterror> let's have a look
[09:49] <bioterror> lubuntu
[09:49] <bioterror> Depends: lubuntu-restricted-addons
[09:49] <bioterror> Recommends: ttf-mscorefonts-installer, unrar, libavcodec-extra-52, libmp4v2-0
[09:49] <bioterror> Filename: pool/universe/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/lubuntu-restricted-extras_42_i386.deb
[09:50] <bioterror> and the ubuntu
[09:50] <bioterror> Recommends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, ttf-mscorefonts-installer, unrar, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, libavcodec-extra-52, libmp4v2-0
[09:50] <bioterror> Filename: pool/multiverse/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/ubuntu-restricted-extras_42_i386.deb
[09:51] <MonthOLDpickle> oh hummm
[09:52] <MonthOLDpickle> Do I even need to do extras and addons?
[09:52] <MonthOLDpickle> Also everytime I boot up and my card auto connects I have to use a keyring?
[09:52] <Mossyfunk> only if you plan to use proprietry software ie play mp3's or watch youtube videos
[09:53] <bioterror> MonthOLDpickle, edit the connection and tap the Available for all users
[09:53] <MonthOLDpickle> youtube works in chromium already
[09:53] <bioterror> then it doesnt ask for the keyring anymore
[09:53] <bioterror> and connects automatically (if you have tapped that checkbox too, by default it should be tapped)
[09:57] <MonthOLDpickle> I want to instll bot sentry for pidgin
[09:57] <MonthOLDpickle> how do I search in terminal
[09:57] <bioterror> search what
[09:57] <MonthOLDpickle> bot sentrtry
[09:57] <bioterror> apt-get packages or files on your filesystem
[09:57] <MonthOLDpickle> don't know exact full name
[09:58] <bioterror> apt-cache search pidgin |grep sentry
[10:01] <MonthOLDpickle>  thanks
[10:01] <bioterror> np
[10:02] <bioterror> apt-cache > synaptic ;)
[10:02] <bioterror> and you can do a search like this
[10:02] <bioterror> apt-cache search pidgin |more
[10:03] <bioterror> apt-cache show pidgin-bot-sentry
[10:04] <bioterror> hi hyperair
[10:05] <hyperair> bioterror: hello.
[10:05] <MonthOLDpickle> Hey
[10:06] <MonthOLDpickle> I just noticed hitting the power button does nothing on the laptop but I just turned the laptop off
[10:06] <bioterror> :D
[10:07] <bioterror> but now I have to flee
[10:07] <bioterror> laters ;)
[11:54] <|friTTe|> \O/
[12:03] <head_victim> This is the second Lubuntu install that has tried to log me into a "Default" but only works when you change that session to "Lubuntu"
[12:04] <Mossyfunk> weird
[12:04] <head_victim> At least I didn't make it auto login like I did on my first one. Made it harder to find the error.
[12:05] <Mossyfunk> How do I generate a new openPGP key in lubuntu? the launchpad.net instructions assume you are using gnome
[12:05] <Mossyfunk> well.. ubuntu-desktop
[12:06] <head_victim> Should be the same?
[12:07] <|friTTe|> its just the text editor that differs
[12:07] <|friTTe|> gedit in gnome and leafpad in lxde
[12:07] <Mossyfunk> The easiest way to generate a new OpenPGP key in Ubuntu is to use the Passwords and Encryption Keys tool.
[12:07] <Mossyfunk> Step 1: Open Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys.
[12:07] <Mossyfunk> Step 2: Select File > New, select PGP Key and then follow the on-screen instructions.
[12:07] <Mossyfunk> Now you'll see your new key listed in the Passwords and Encryption Keys tool.
[12:07] <|friTTe|> Mossyfunk,  i know i struggled when i signed that one
[12:08] <|friTTe|> oh
[12:08] <|friTTe|> yeah
[12:08] <|friTTe|> hmm well we better try to sort that out, i dont know tbh
[12:09] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[12:10] <Mossyfunk> heh yeah was just reading through that
[12:11] <Mossyfunk> I seem to have this part of my brain broken where I don't see something right in front of me until I ask someone else lol
[12:11] <|friTTe|> i know the feeling =)
[12:11] <Mossyfunk> head_victim, |friTTe|, ty
[12:11] <Mossyfunk> =)
[12:11] <Mossyfunk> <3
[12:11] <head_victim> Mossyfunk: it's what we're here for :)
[12:11] <|friTTe|> :)
[14:09] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[14:09] <kosaidpo> any recommendation for a light rss reader ?
[14:10] <bioterror> if you replace your sylpheed with clawsmail you can install claws-mail-feeds-reader
[14:11] <head_victim> Hmm there is a RSS extension for Chrome, looking to see if it works for Chromium
[14:11] <kosaidpo> bioterror: hi well infact im lookin for some client specific to rss only you kno
[14:11] <kosaidpo> noo i mean adesktop client you got
[14:11] <kosaidpo> it does i use it
[14:12] <|friTTe|> use google reader
[14:12] <kosaidpo> well i wanna get a client so if i dont have the net i can still read
[14:12] <|friTTe|> ook
[14:14] <|friTTe|> kosaidpo,  http://www.rss-specifications.com/rss-reader-linux.htm
[14:14] <|friTTe|> theres some diff ones
[14:14] <kosaidpo> |friTTe|:  thanks : )
[14:15] <|friTTe|> ive been using Liferea couple of times. that one is pretty nice
[14:15] <|friTTe|> http://liferea.sourceforge.net/
[14:15] <|friTTe|> i like thtat one, nice looking layout
[14:16] <kosaidpo> is it light ??
[14:17] <|friTTe|> gtk/gnome
[14:17] <|friTTe|> i had gnome when i tried it but
[14:17] <|friTTe|> dont seem to be heavy
[14:18] <kosaidpo> yeh i saw gnome thats why i asked ill give it a try ?
[14:18] <kosaidpo> btw guys
[14:18] <|friTTe|> yeah
[14:18] <kosaidpo> anyone here using hotot ?? it doesnt support list yet or only me idk  from to get it
[14:18] <|friTTe|> check out what dependencies it wanna install
[14:19] <kosaidpo> yehh
[14:19] <|friTTe|> some wanna add gnome stuff
[14:19] <|friTTe|> no havent tried it
[14:19] <|friTTe|> switched on my android from seesmic to tweetdeck
[14:19] <|friTTe|> gonna check out some alts for my desktop
[14:20] <kosaidpo> welli find hotot way col and light then tweetdeck tho
[14:20] <kosaidpo> tweetteck too much unusfull options
[14:22] <|friTTe|> ok
[14:23] <|friTTe|> works good with Lubuntu?
[14:23] <|friTTe|> hootot
[14:25] <kosaidpo> frit yesss
[14:26] <kosaidpo> is very cool with my memory ram
[14:27] <|friTTe|> alright =D will check it out then
[14:29] <kosaidpo> im kinda sure you ll adopt it
[14:32] <Mossyfunk> should I trust apt-get telling me that packages such as reiserfsprogs rdate python-webkit localechooser-data
[14:32] <Mossyfunk>   ecryptfs-utils are no longer needed? why the hell are they there on a clean install if they are not needed? and why would I remove filesystem tools?
[14:32] <bioterror> yes
[15:04] <kosaidpo1> hello
[15:04] <kosaidpo1> guys i dl lifearea now so is there any way to link it with my google reader ??
[15:04] <kosaidpo1> or like configure chomuim to subscribe me but using lifearea ?
[16:14] <Mossyfunk> Is there a way to setup sylpheed to automatically decrypt pgp encrypted emails?
[16:14] <Mossyfunk> or do I need to export to file and dfo it manually
[16:18] <Mossyfunk> I seemingly can set it to automatically encrypt emails I send so I should be able to set it to do the reverse no?
[16:35] <CrackerJackz> is anyone around?
[16:35] <bioterror> yep
[16:35] <Mossyfunk> Hey CrackerJackz =)
[16:36] <CrackerJackz> Mossyfunk, i have an old computer that has a 300 mhz processor, 128 mb of ram, and a 6 GB hard drive
[16:36] <CrackerJackz> i'm looking for a linux distrabution that's right for me
[16:36] <bioterror> if you can boot lubuntu 10.10 with your computer, you've found the correct one
[16:36] <CrackerJackz> bioterror, well i'm just concerned about the hard drive space
[16:37] <bioterror> Lubuntu takes 1.8GB with fresh installation
[16:37] <Mossyfunk> "Minimum requirements for lubuntu are comparable to Pentium II or Celeron systems with a 128 Mb RAM configuration, which may yield a slow yet usable system with lubuntu."
[16:37] <CrackerJackz> bioterror, even after updates only 1.8gb?
[16:37] <bioterror> yes
[16:38] <CrackerJackz> can you think of anything that might be better than lubuntu for my scenerio?
[16:38] <bioterror> well
[16:38] <CrackerJackz> i was thinking dsl maybe
[16:38] <bioterror> after lubuntu comes Salix OS, which is based on Slackware
[16:38] <CrackerJackz> and slackware is similar to debian i think
[16:38] <CrackerJackz> it uses apt-get for package management right?
[16:38] <bioterror> it's i486 optimized and also has a LXDE version of it
[16:38] <bioterror> it uses slapt-get
[16:39] <CrackerJackz> about how much space does slackware take up?
[16:39] <bioterror> but ubuntu can provide alot more programs
[16:39] <bioterror> hmmm
[16:39] <CrackerJackz> well the computer is only going to be used for checking email, watching youtube videos, listening to music
[16:39] <bioterror> it's almost the same
[16:40] <bioterror> 6GB is enough
[16:40] <bioterror> but you should go with the lubuntu, and think salix as a plan b
[16:40] <CrackerJackz> how hard do you think it would be to get thi cisco aironet 350 series wireless adapter to work with it?
[16:41] <bioterror> I gotta hit the shower, my daughter is yelling at me :d
[16:41] <bioterror> laters
[16:42] <CrackerJackz> bioterror, okay. thank you for your advice
[16:45] <Mossyfunk> later bioterror =)
[16:46] <Mossyfunk> CrackerJackz, I am a newbie can't help much sorry
[16:46] <CrackerJackz> Mossyfunk, that's okay
[16:47] <Mossyfunk> lubuntu is ultra fast on my P4 though compared to other distros
[16:51] <CrackerJackz> Mossyfunk, i have gentoo on the computer i'm using now..
[16:52] <CrackerJackz> but i have this old computer that has a pentium 2 processor, 128 mb of ram and 6gb of hard drive space
[17:07] <bioterror> gentoo, you should be advanced user then
[17:07] <bioterror> ;)
[17:07] <bioterror> even I dislike the gentoo installation from scratch
[17:09] <Mossyfunk> I gave it a go, but figured "whats the bloody point" and installed lubuntu =)
[17:10] <Mossyfunk> I will follow LFS book in the future to learn but for now I'm happy here
[17:18] <CrackerJackz> bioterror, i'm still learning actually
[17:18] <CrackerJackz> gentoo was my very first distro
[17:18] <CrackerJackz> ubuntu my second
[17:18] <CrackerJackz> actually i take that back
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> when i was 13 i installed mandrake on a computer of mine
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> but never knew how to work it
[17:19] <bioterror> did you install gentoo with chrooting and stuff like that? or did you use installer/livecd?
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> didnt know how to open up any of my files or anything
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> so i just said screw it
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> stopped using it
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> couldnt even get it on the internet
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> then when i was like 18.. 19 years old
[17:19] <CrackerJackz> i met someone and they started teaching me about linux
[17:20] <CrackerJackz> they had me install gentoo lol
[17:20] <CrackerJackz> bioterror, i used the live cd
[17:20] <CrackerJackz> first gentoo install my friend installed for me
[17:20] <CrackerJackz> from several states away
[17:20] <CrackerJackz> he had me setup ssh
[17:20] <CrackerJackz> and screen
[17:21] <CrackerJackz> and he ssh'd in
[17:21] <bioterror> yes
[17:21] <CrackerJackz> and ran screen on my computer so that i could see what he was doing
[17:21] <CrackerJackz> it was pretty cool actually
[17:21] <bioterror> but you missed the educational part of it ;)
[17:21] <CrackerJackz> i've installed gentoo on other computrs since then though
[17:21] <CrackerJackz> i will admit it is a bit of a pain in the ass to compile your own kernel from source if you don't know what you're doing
[17:22] <CrackerJackz> theres no way i coulda installed gentoo by my self the first time.. i knew absolutely nothing about linux
[17:22] <CrackerJackz> other than it was an operating system
[17:22] <bioterror> but hey
[17:23] <bioterror> if we wanna chat about this more, you should join #lubuntu-offtopic
[17:23] <bioterror> this is for the helping ;)
[17:23] <CrackerJackz> okay
[18:15] <pip_> I've upgraded to 10.10 cos my live cd kept crashing, now I only have 1 theme.  Help
[18:15] <bioterror> 1 theme
[18:15] <bioterror> you mean the default lubuntu theme?
[18:15] <pip_> 1 theme, clearlooks
[18:15] <pip_> I'd like the new pretty default one
[18:16] <bioterror> you should get it
[18:17] <pip_> it's been a bit of a nightmare, not being able to clean install
[18:17] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:18] <bioterror> what if you say
[18:18] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop
[18:18] <bioterror> we could start with this one
[18:20] <pip_> aha, i'll give it a go
[18:20] <pip_> already newest version
[18:20] <pip_> its a bit weird I did an upgrde a day or so ago, which gave me the new theme
[18:20] <bioterror> okay
[18:21] <pip_> then i borked the system & had to reinstall 10.04 & upgrade again
[18:25] <MonthOLDpickle> Hey guys
[18:25] <MonthOLDpickle> On wireless I go to edit to make the keyring not pop up I don't see a "enable for all users"
[18:29] <MonthOLDpickle> hey what do I add for bluetooth? gnome-bluetooth or bkluez ones?
[18:30] <bioterror> try to avoid gnome ;)
[18:30] <bioterror> that's what I think in the first place
[18:33] <MOP> sorry experimenting
[18:33] <MOP> so for bluetooth support on lubuntu what would I add?
[18:34] <MOP> Or do I do the extras and addons and that gets it?
[18:37] <MonthOLDpickle> just trying to get my bluetooth working
[18:38] <MonthOLDpickle> all I find is info on ubuntu and how to pair phone with lubuntu
[18:41] <MonthOLDpickle> I got blueman installed...
[18:43] <MonthOLDpickle> All I fidn is ubuntu raawwwrrrrr
[18:43] <pip_> it's early days for this distro yet, I think
[18:44] <MonthOLDpickle> restarting
[18:46] <MonthOLDpickle> w000t
[18:47] <MonthOLDpickle> decision estimated guessing works!
[18:47] <MonthOLDpickle> except the icon goes away when you disable it -.-
[18:50] <MonthOLDpickle> thats going to be annoying lol!
[18:52] <pip_> I guess I can live with only one theme
[18:53] <pip_> everything works
[18:53] <pip_> even if i cant find the new control centre in synaptic :-)
[18:54] <pip_> ttfn guys
[18:54] <mark76> Pip pip
[18:54] <MonthOLDpickle> I use a bluetooth mouse
[18:54] <MonthOLDpickle> every now and than I dsiable to save battery
[18:58] <MonthOLDpickle> I disable the bluetooth to save battery and sometimes turn it back on to use a mouse
[18:58] <MonthOLDpickle> I sho0uldn't need to restart everytime -.p
[19:00] <slow-motion> after stopping the film and pressing play on youtube the film starts to "hang" but the sound continous
[19:02] <slow-motion> has someone an idea how to solve that?
[19:02] <bioterror> maybe something wrong with the flash
[19:03]  * bioterror is waiting for the html5
[19:06] <slow-motion> i set the space used for buffer in the flash settings to 10mb. at the moment it seemed to be the solution
[19:12] <phillw> slow-motion: try using the html5 trial on you-tube instead of flash.
[19:14] <phillw> slow-motion: http://www.youtube.com/html5
[19:14] <slow-motion> yes i know that site
[19:14] <slow-motion> html5 produces wrong colours with chromium 8.0.556.0 (62835)
[19:16] <phillw> slow-motion: is that the stable, or daily build?
[19:17] <MonthOLDpickle> fffffffffffffffffff
[19:17] <MonthOLDpickle> I am going to reinstall lol
[19:17] <MonthOLDpickle> trying to get the bluetooth manager to stay on even with bt is turned off
[19:17] <MonthOLDpickle> installed kubuntu and ubuntu stuff
[19:18] <MonthOLDpickle> -.-
[19:19] <czz> sometime when i reboot my computer, my networking devices doesn't pick up eth01
[19:19] <czz> and i have to reboot to correct this issue
[19:19] <MonthOLDpickle> how do you get flash drives to mount ?
[19:22] <phillw> MonthOLDpickle: pcmanfm should automount them
[19:22] <slow-motion> phillw the daily
[19:23] <phillw> slow-motion: i'd suggest filing a bug against it, the guy who chases up chromium bugs is a star and you will get a reply.
[19:23] <phillw> he can have a bug fix out within 24 hours.
[19:24] <slow-motion> the flash is dropping frames
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> so yea
[19:25] <MonthOLDpickle> bluetooth only turns on rebooting
[19:26] <MonthOLDpickle> AND non of the usb drives are seen
[19:26] <MonthOLDpickle> fml
[19:28] <phillw> MonthOLDpickle: I've never had a problem with pcmanfm and flash drives... So I'm a bit puzzled :\
[19:29] <MonthOLDpickle> disk part sees it but I tried formatting it and no fat32 option
[19:30] <MonthOLDpickle> rapiid pulling out and outting it made it pop up
[19:31] <MonthOLDpickle> just need to figure out bluetooth
[20:14] <slow-motion> phillw the video i play with mplayer has the same problems
[20:14] <phillw> chances are it is still in flash format.
[20:23] <Kurdistan> Hey girls :)
[20:24] <bioterror> sorry to dissapoint you but... ;)
[20:24] <Kurdistan> haha bioterror how are you? hur går det med svenskan?
[20:25] <bioterror> går mycket bra, tack.
[20:25] <Kurdistan> haha du äger.
[20:25] <bioterror> jag mår bra.
[20:25] <Kurdistan> härligt. :)
[20:25] <bioterror> du?
[20:26] <Kurdistan> jag mår bra om några timmar. ifall resultaten blir som jag hoppas. :)
[20:26] <phillw> Kurdistan: /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[20:41] <|friTTe|> Kurdistan,  vika resultat?
[20:41] <|friTTe|> *vilka
[21:15] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[21:17] <phillw> hiyas kosaidpo
[21:17] <kosaidpo> phillw: hows you and your lubuntu mine is cool : )
[21:18] <phillw> kosaidpo: I'm still running 9.10 ubuntu, as I have no broadband here :'( Still waiting it to be put in
[21:19] <kosaidpo> as in u dont have net on this pc i read earlier abt an app that you cud use to dl updates
[21:19] <phillw> I can run lubuntu, but none of the family after the early release of 9.10 will work with my 3G device
[21:19] <kosaidpo> to update a pc with no net
[21:20] <phillw> kosaidpo: no, I would have no internet at all. No email, no IRC etc.
[21:20] <kosaidpo> phillw: sorry i didnt get you you mean ur device doesnt work with other ten 9.10 ??
[21:21] <phillw> indeed, and then not if you do kernel update.
[21:21] <phillw> I've had to turn off all updates.
[21:22] <phillw> I will not know for 4 weeks if I am staying at this pub, so cannot order broadband.
[21:22] <kosaidpo> ohh thats so not good
[21:22] <bioterror> 9.10 is still going to be supported for a while
[21:22] <bioterror> no problems! ;)
[21:23] <phillw> it is, but it's not lubuntu :(
[21:23] <bioterror> haha
[21:23] <kosaidpo> phillw: so i guess you runnin slowly : ) you cant catch us im happy with my lubuntu again
[21:23] <kosaidpo> :D
[21:24] <phillw> kosaidpo: I have 2GB of RAM, so my laptop runs quite well ;)
[21:24] <phillw> I just prefer lubuntu, I do not have LAMP server or anything on this installation.
[21:25] <kosaidpo> Ohh dude i tho ur were complainin Haaha so you can ride it well then
[21:25] <kosaidpo> well since i discovred lubntu i get sticked with it
[21:27] <phillw> kosaidpo: /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[21:27] <kosaidpo> ohh i tho i added to auto-join  te lst time
[21:27] <kosaidpo>  /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[21:29] <bioterror> that was fast
[22:00] <Kurdistan> guys lubuntu system monitor is crap, to be honest. I prefer gnomes system monitor.
[22:01] <bioterror> you're so demanding!
[22:02] <Kurdistan> :P yes thats me, but the good thing with lubuntu it is minimalistic.
[22:03] <Kurdistan> I can make my own :) lubuntu
[22:03] <bioterror> gordon ramsay always says 'less is more'
[22:09] <Kurdistan> bioterror, I only say what I think. Nobody is worsing to do like me or think like I think
[22:10] <bioterror> you mean the task manager?
[22:10] <Kurdistan> bioterror yes
[22:11] <bioterror> ha
[22:11] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install htop
[22:11] <bioterror> :-)
[22:11] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install bmon
[22:11] <Kurdistan> what is htop and bmon?
[22:12] <bioterror> htop for processes, bmon for bandwith
[22:12] <Kurdistan> okey. thats like applet?
[22:13] <bioterror> software for console/terminal
[22:13] <Kurdistan> lol, my bad, htop is like command line top?
[22:13] <bioterror> yeah
[22:14] <bioterror> but "better"
[22:14] <Kurdistan> is it?
[22:14] <Kurdistan> cool I will try
[22:14] <bioterror> oh yeah
[22:15] <Kurdistan> it does not work. thats wierd.
[22:15] <bioterror> how so?
[22:15] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/hhhtop.png
[22:16] <Kurdistan> bioterror no clue it does not start up
[22:17] <bioterror> if you say in terminal "htop"
[22:17] <bioterror> what does it say?
[22:17] <Kurdistan> then it comes up
[22:17] <bioterror> as it should ;)
[22:17] <Kurdistan> Okey then it is like top
[22:18] <Kurdistan> I thougt it is a tool like lubuntus task manager or gnome system monitor
[22:18] <bioterror> it's a tool!
[22:18] <bioterror> ;)
[22:19] <bioterror> if you decide to use server or something, it's really handy to use from ssh
[22:19] <Kurdistan> yeah it is cool but I prefer gnome system monitor
[22:19] <Kurdistan> and htop is better then lubuntus taskmanager
[22:20] <Kurdistan> lubuntu will :) be better with time.
[22:20] <Kurdistan> bioterror thx any way it is handy tool
[22:21] <bioterror> and looks good if you have as many cpu's as I have ;)
[22:22] <Kurdistan> I have 2 processor
[22:23] <Kurdistan> my laptop is bang-fast, solid stable and light. :)
[22:24] <Kurdistan> lubuntu-fast+light=true
[22:24] <Kurdistan> lubuntu+fast+light+tweak_it=kurdistans laptop
[22:24] <Kurdistan> :)
[22:25] <Kurdistan> bioterror does bootchart works for you under lubuntu?
[22:25] <bioterror> you mean GRUB?
[22:25] <Kurdistan> the time I get from bootchart is wrong
[22:26] <Kurdistan> bootchart is a tool that takes upstart time/boot time
[22:26] <bioterror> ahhh
[22:26] <Kurdistan> you get picture :) with result etc
[22:26] <bioterror> havent tried
[22:26] <kosaidpo> guys i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/514643/ when i  try to launch blogtk
[22:26] <Kurdistan> bioterror iits cool tool
[22:28] <bioterror> kosaidpo, apt-cache search gtkhtml
[22:29] <Kurdistan> bioterror=guru :)
[22:30] <kosaidpo> bioterror: got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/514645/
[22:31] <Kurdistan> bioterror :) I take back, htop is really goddie
[22:31] <bioterror> kosaidpo, Depends: python, python-central (>= 0.6.11), python-gtk2 (>= 1.19.13-3), python-gnome2 (>= 1.19.13-3), python-glade2 (>= 1.19.13-3)
[22:31] <bioterror> it doesnt say that it would need gtkhtml2
[22:32] <Kurdistan> bioterror how can I look when I remove appz
[22:32] <bioterror> look what?
[22:32] <Kurdistan> if I want to remove the depends thing to
[22:32] <Kurdistan> like gnome system monitor
[22:33] <bioterror> you want to remove the dependencys which you got with the gnome system monitor?
[22:33] <bioterror> you want that listing?
[22:33] <Kurdistan> yes
[22:33] <Kurdistan> exactly
[22:33] <kosaidpo> bioterror: is it to me ?
[22:33] <bioterror> sudo apt-cache show <package> |more
[22:33] <bioterror> ahh
[22:33] <bioterror> you dont need sudo
[22:34] <bioterror> but it doesnt matter either
[22:34] <Kurdistan> bioterror the command line was to me?
[22:34] <bioterror> Kurdistan, yes
[22:34] <kosaidpo> bioterror: im sorry but ididnt get what you said
[22:35] <bioterror> kosaidpo, something wrong with that blogging software if it complains about that
[22:36] <bioterror> kosaidpo, you can email your error message: Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[22:36] <bioterror> they can possible helpo you out
[22:37] <kosaidpo> bioterror: infact i did try this app a long time agao n got this error and its still the same till now ican say
[22:37] <kosaidpo> its not maintained anymor i guess
[22:37] <bioterror> hmmm
[22:40] <bioterror> I'm trying that out
[22:41] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/blogtk/+bug/593456
[22:42] <Kurdistan> bioterror thx
[22:42] <kosaidpo> bioterror: is there a fix for it ?
[22:42] <bioterror> no ppa for the maverick
[22:43] <bioterror> kosaidpo, but you're running 10.04, you can enjoy working blogtk
[22:43] <Kurdistan> apt-get build-dep  <<<--- is the same?
[22:44] <kosaidpo> bioterror: no im runnin 10.10
[22:44] <bioterror> you have to wait till the developer upgrades
[22:44] <JoeMaverickSett> kosaidpo: yeah, that ppa is for lucid. i forgot to mention. :/
[22:45] <kosaidpo> too bad then : (
[22:45] <kosaidpo> ill try to find another one
[22:46] <JoeMaverickSett> kosaidpo: yeah, that would be your best chance.
[22:46] <kosaidpo> yeah
[22:50] <Kurdistan> bioterror thx for the command, veery handy :)
[22:51] <Kurdistan> I really like htop. :) damn good tool
[22:55]  * phillw loves ppa-purge :D
[22:57] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#ppa-purge
[22:59] <Kurdistan> have nice evening you all.
[23:01] <kosaidpo> qtm suck balls really hard
[23:01] <kosaidpo> guys any recommendation for a blog client ?
[23:01] <JoeMaverickSett> kosaidpo: derivel?
[23:02] <JoeMaverickSett> kosaidpo: *Drivel
[23:02] <kosaidpo> yeh but its too simple no tags i guess or anythin  many features are not in it
[23:02] <kosaidpo> i test it along time ago to
[23:02] <syst3m> can anyone help me with an installation on an older computer?
[23:03] <JoeMaverickSett> kosaidpo: then i got no idea. :/
[23:03] <kosaidpo> JoeMaverickSett: hihi thanks a lot : )
[23:06] <phillw> syst3m: what are the specifications of the computer ?
[23:09] <syst3m> phillw: intel celeron processer 2.40 GHZ and i think 256 mb ram
[23:09] <kosaidpo> guys peace out
[23:09] <kosaidpo> have fun
[23:09] <phillw> syst3m: do you have an ethernet connection with it?
[23:11] <phillw> syst3m: my IRC client is pretty basic, please reply in here; thanks.
[23:11] <syst3m> phillw: kinda, got an old router working as a receiver, so it works as if its wired
[23:12] <syst3m> phillw: and sry bout that, dont really no my way around irc that well
[23:13] <phillw> syst3m: at 256MB you *can* use the standard install CD, it will just take a while, you may find it faster to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[23:16] <syst3m> phillw: I have been trying the standard CD and most times i cant even get the installation menu to show up. and the one time it looked like it was working i got a partition error
[23:17] <bioterror> you cant double click?
[23:17] <bioterror> or wha
[23:17] <phillw> syst3m: try with the minimal method, also do check the CD has burned okay.
[23:17] <phillw> syst3m: else you're on hiding to nothing, trying to install from a 'bad' CD
[23:20] <syst3m> phillw: will do. about the mini cd, does it matter that it was created in april? well it still get 10.10?
[23:27] <phillw> syst3m: let me just check
[23:27] <phillw> syst3m: my bad, I missed that one; give me a few minutes.
[23:28] <phillw> syst3m: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ is the maverick one.... drat I missed one on the wiki area :(
[23:30] <syst3m> phillw: no problem, at least i know what to use now.
[23:30]  * phillw links updated
[23:46] <syst3m> phillw: Im trying the the mini cd now, and after selecting comand-line install its just sitting the
[23:48] <phillw> press enter again, it may take a few seconds to respond.
[23:49] <phillw> those are my 10.04 instructions, I may need to re-write them for 10.10 but I am not expecting any major change on how the mini-iso works :\
[23:49] <syst3m> when i press enter (first time), some barely readable green texts pops up at the top, the menu still visable
[23:50] <syst3m> after a while it disappeared and everything was frozen
[23:51] <phillw> that sounds like a graphics problem, else the cd is corrupt.
[23:51] <phillw> you're not trying to use 64bit on your computer?
[23:52] <syst3m> i think its a graphic issue, and no
[23:52] <syst3m> im using 32bit
[23:53] <phillw> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux
[23:54] <phillw> I haven't got a 10.10 boot cd for mini iso downloaded and tested on my computer.
[23:57] <phillw> As I have no ethernet here, I cannot re-test the instructions with 10.10. You may want to try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ once lubuntu 10.04 is on, you can upgrade to 10.10 anyways.
[23:57] <syst3m> i just went into advance options and tried comand-line expert on the mini
[23:57] <phillw> and I know the 10.04 method works fine :)
[23:57] <syst3m> it opened, should i try that?
[23:58] <phillw> syst3m: give it a go, I have not had chance to test it as I'm on a 3G device and you need ethernet for the mini-iso