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| psusi | cjwatson, we're still using gparted 0.6.2 and 0.6.4 is out and fixes the long standing bug with dmraid disks. Would it help if I were to get 0.6.4 built and tested and request a merge, or does debian need to update first? | 04:21 |
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| vish | oubiwann¦ hi, i see a lot of UDS sessions for gestures, they all seem to be about multi-touch... is anyone looking into triggering some of those gestures with mouse/touchpad? | 05:10 |
| * vish not volunteering .. ;) | 05:10 | |
| wgrant | vish: Note that some newer touchpads are multitouch. | 05:13 |
| vish | yea | 05:14 |
| vish | but some of the basic swipe gestures, could be tried with holding one of the buttons or both | 05:15 |
| vish | there is a Firefox extension which does that.. | 05:15 |
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| ari-tczew | cjwatson: could you remove pyclamd and pyexiv2 from MoM? | 09:24 |
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| kalkin- | hi | 11:10 |
| kalkin- | can perhaps ubuntu compile php5 with --with-curlswrappers ? | 11:11 |
| kalkin- | it would be really helpfull | 11:11 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: file a bug, developers will review your request. it will be approved or declined | 11:11 |
| kalkin- | ari-tczew: where should i file it? | 11:24 |
| kalkin- | i have no idea about ubuntu developer stuff | 11:24 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: on launchpad/ubuntu to php5? | 11:24 |
| kalkin- | k, i can google launchpad | 11:25 |
| kalkin- | normally i use gentoo on servers :) | 11:25 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bugs | 11:25 |
| kalkin- | thanks | 11:25 |
| kalkin- | i will do it | 11:26 |
| kalkin- | but another question | 11:26 |
| kalkin- | i'm build php *.deb packages from source | 11:26 |
| kalkin- | i checked out with apt-get source php5 | 11:26 |
| kalkin- | installed all dependencies | 11:26 |
| kalkin- | changed debian/rules to contain the --with-curlwrappers | 11:26 |
| kalkin- | but when i'm running sudo dpkg-buildpackage -j16 i get the following error | 11:27 |
| kalkin- | http://nopaste.info/701d703bf6.html | 11:27 |
| kalkin- | i build like this php packages for ubuntu php5-5.2 and it worked | 11:28 |
| kalkin- | but with php5.3 it doesn't work | 11:28 |
| kalkin- | anymore | 11:28 |
| kalkin- | becuase the build process fails | 11:28 |
| kalkin- | any idea? | 11:31 |
| sladen | kalkin-: that's only a partial log | 11:33 |
| kalkin- | sladen: the whole log is REALY long | 11:34 |
| sladen | kalkin-: first result from a quick google is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874013 | 11:34 |
| kalkin- | sladen: thanks, but it doesn't really help me | 11:35 |
| sladen | kalkin-: right, and neither does an incomplete log file help me to help you :) | 11:35 |
| kalkin- | sladen: how much i want to see? :) | 11:36 |
| sladen | kalkin-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ shouldn't have any limit | 11:36 |
| kalkin- | i will just build it again and show you the whole log | 11:38 |
| kalkin- | filled out the bug on launchpad | 11:55 |
| kalkin- | how long it takes someone to react on this, and will be the switch added to current version? | 11:55 |
| kalkin- | fuck i just noticed i use 10.4 lts | 11:55 |
| kalkin- | it probably wouldn't added to lts | 11:55 |
| kurrata | hi, i have 2 questions. i made my own .deb file and installed it. Why i cant find it in software center as installed package. And 2nd question. How do i get that screenshot to show in software center when i am installing package? http://codepad.org/1KHsIFrm control file | 12:33 |
| kalkin- | kurrata: what says aptitude search $YOURPACKAGE ? | 12:35 |
| kurrata | kalkin- aptitude has it under unknows section | 12:40 |
| kalkin- | has it an i in front of package? | 12:41 |
| kurrata | yes it has | 12:41 |
| kalkin- | then it's installed | 12:41 |
| kurrata | hi, i have 2 questions. i made my own .deb file and installed it. Why i cant find it in software center as installed package. And 2nd question. How do i get that screenshot to show in software center when i am installing package? http://codepad.org/1KHsIFrm control file | 12:41 |
| kalkin- | with section you mean somethink like gnome kde ect...? | 12:42 |
| kurrata | i know that its istalled, i can run it it just doesnt show up in software center | 12:42 |
| kalkin- | in the aptitude ncurses frontend? | 12:42 |
| kurrata | kalkin- yea | 12:42 |
| kalkin- | kurrata: and software center has no category unknown? | 12:42 |
| kurrata | it has only 1 category ubuntu supported nothing else | 12:43 |
| kalkin- | i'm not really in this gui stuff, never run an ubuntu desktop, but AFAIK is software center just another frontend for apt | 12:43 |
| kalkin- | hmm no idea, but perhaps some one else could help you | 12:43 |
| kurrata | not using ubuntu to but need to make .deb file | 12:44 |
| kalkin- | sladen: aehm, the output is something like 41MB | 12:55 |
| kalkin- | here the last 1k lines from the ouput http://files.blase16.de/output2 | 12:57 |
| ari-tczew | doko: can we sync package python-profiler from Debian unstable? | 13:10 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: We don't generally manually remove packages from MoM. If there is something that shouldn't be there, just leave a comment. | 13:51 |
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| kalkin- | k now i'm puzlled | 14:25 |
| kalkin- | how the hell are you building the php deb packages? | 14:25 |
| kalkin- | i just downloaded with apt-get source php5 | 14:25 |
| kalkin- | and run dpkg-buildpackage -J16 -D | 14:26 |
| kalkin- | and it fails | 14:26 |
| kalkin- | with the same error | 14:26 |
| kalkin- | this way would every mainter build his package, and because there're php5 packages i think it should be build this way | 14:26 |
| kalkin- | *should be possible to | 14:26 |
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| Amaranth | wgrant: Kept logging me out, filed bug 661748 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 661748 in Launchpad itself "keeps logging out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661748 | 15:18 |
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| rafaelsf80 | disconnect | 16:11 |
| rafaelsf80 | connect localhost | 16:12 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: change what you want, debuild -S, then pbuilder-dist maverick .dsc file | 16:25 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: you want change one flag, might be debian/rules satisfy you | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | ari-tczew: pyclamd and pyexiv2 removed, for the next run | 17:04 |
| ari-tczew | cjwatson: thanks! could also remove nautilus-image-converter and ilohamail? both on universe | 17:05 |
| cjwatson | ScottK: they needed to be removed because they were on the sync-blacklist so MoM wasn't processing them and the merges were stale | 17:05 |
| cjwatson | ari-tczew: nautilus-image-converter done, but if I remove ilohamail I think it will just come back - that's genuine version confusion. why not just merge it as 0.8.14-0rc3sid6.1ubuntu1 or something? | 17:09 |
| ari-tczew | cjwatson: previously merger messed d/changelog :/ take a look | 17:10 |
| cjwatson | oh of course, it can't be merged as that version because it's less. but in any event I can't simply remove it for the reason I just gave. I suggest leaving the comment there and putting up with it | 17:11 |
| kalkin- | ari-tczew: i added my flag to debian/rules | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | it'll sort itself out eventually as time goes on | 17:11 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: cool | 17:12 |
| kalkin- | but i'm building with dpkg-builpackage is it wrong? | 17:13 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: as I said, use debuild -S for build source package, then cd .. and pbuilder-dist maverick *.dsc | 17:13 |
| kalkin- | i will try it after this compile run is over | 17:13 |
| kalkin- | ari-tczew: thanks for the hint | 17:13 |
| kalkin- | hope it works | 17:13 |
| ari-tczew | if your change doesn't provide ftbfs, it will work | 17:14 |
| kalkin- | ftbfs? | 17:16 |
| ari-tczew | kalkin-: Failed To Build From Source | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | category: acronyms that obscure meanings for the uninitiated | 17:16 |
| kalkin- | hehe | 17:17 |
| ari-tczew | 2 days natty opened and 150 merges reduced! thanks to all people involved | 17:20 |
| cjwatson | yeah, the progress is pretty good. most of the ones I have left are in the "irritatingly hard" set | 17:24 |
| ScottK | cjwatson: Ah. I see. Thanks. | 17:25 |
| cjwatson | it's a MoM bug of course, it should at least process sync-blacklist to the extent of removing any merges on it ... | 17:25 |
| Quintasan | barry: well, it builds but I'm not sure if guys in debian want this :P | 17:38 |
| ari-tczew | cjwatson: update: 177 the number of reduced merge since natty start. (560-383=177) | 17:54 |
| ari-tczew | and this number is growing up | 17:55 |
| rooligan | will libreoffice be included in Natty if it is stable then? Or will OpenOffice.org keep being the office suite of Ubuntu? | 19:21 |
| fagan | rooligan: Id say it will be | 19:23 |
| fagan | Libreoffice is stable BTW because its a fork of openoffice it is more or less the same code | 19:24 |
| fagan | so there shouldnt be anything stopping including it | 19:24 |
| rooligan | fagan: ok, thanks to you :-) | 19:24 |
| cjwatson | rooligan: see the LibreOffice initial press release | 19:24 |
| fagan | cjwatson: I was just about to say that | 19:25 |
| cjwatson | I'd copy and paste Mark's comments from that but the PDF reader on my phone doesn't seem to want to let me | 19:25 |
| cjwatson | http://www.documentfoundation.org/pdf/tdf_release.pdf, anyway | 19:25 |
| rooligan | cjwatson: thank you! | 19:26 |
| * nigelb helps | 19:26 | |
| nigelb | " Office productivity software is a critical component of the free software | 19:26 |
| nigelb | desktop, and the Ubuntu Project will be pleased to ship LibreOffice from The Document | 19:26 |
| nigelb | Foundation in future releases of Ubuntu. | 19:26 |
| cjwatson | he wasn't specific about which release of course, that will depend on how things work out operationally, but I imagine the desktop team will be pretty interested | 19:26 |
| nigelb | There's a bit more, but that's the relevant bit | 19:26 |
| cjwatson | ta Nigel | 19:27 |
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| nigelb | np :) | 19:27 |
| fagan | Well cjwatson there shouldnt really be anything to stop it from it from being a drop in replacement to open office | 19:29 |
| geser | what's the difference between OO.org and LibreOffice? | 19:33 |
| fagan | geser: less oracle | 19:34 |
| fagan | more google and novell | 19:35 |
| fagan | (I think google) | 19:35 |
| penguin42 | is there anything explicitly removed from LO so that some OOo scripts etc might not work? | 19:45 |
| fagan | penguin42: Im pretty sure they are removing all of the old star office extention crap | 19:54 |
| penguin42 | fagan: Ah OK, I was thinking more Java stuff - but from a distro side I guess it's tricky to replace a package if it might break some random set of users | 19:55 |
| fagan | penguin42: well the java stuff too I think | 19:55 |
| fagan | there are a few things that are linked to star office that they dont want at all | 19:56 |
| fagan | its probably in the announcement somewhere | 19:56 |
| fagan | http://www.documentfoundation.org/pdf/tdf_release.pdf | 19:56 |
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| ScottK | I'm guessing the initial effort will be mostly to integrate the go-oo patches that we already shipped. | 20:05 |
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| cjwatson | fagan: nothing major, I imagine, but it is likely to take a while. OOo was a beast to package; LO will probably be better since one of their goals is to make the build saner (and they've already integrated go-oo changes to that end), but even so it's hardly a five-minute job | 20:20 |
| cjwatson | plus, most of our OOo packaging comes from Debian at the moment, which is frozen | 20:22 |
| penguin42 | if they could make it build in a finite amount of space and time maybe it would attract more people to work on it | 20:23 |
| cjwatson | though google indicates that there's already been packaging work on the Debian side | 20:24 |
| cjwatson | e.g. http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-openoffice/packages/libreoffice/3.3.0/experimental/ - Rene on the ball as usual | 20:25 |
| Ganonkiller | i am currently trying to get my gps card to work on meerkat... its a ETAK GPS Card ET-GPS1 | 20:35 |
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| Ganonkiller | are the drivers still supported? | 20:36 |
| fagan | Ganonkiller: support questions are supposed to be asked in #ubuntu | 20:36 |
| Ganonkiller | i meant to ask if the drivers were developed for meerkat support | 20:38 |
| fagan | Ganonkiller: well thats something to ask the upstream linux developers we are downstream | 20:42 |
| fagan | so its still off topic for here | 20:42 |
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| Ganonkiller | geez | 21:03 |
| fagan | Ganonkiller: I hate to be bad but thats the way its done. We dont really know everything that goes on in the Linux kernel so we cant answer questions like that | 21:04 |
| Ganonkiller | i just wanted to know if the drivers are still supported? | 21:06 |
| Ganonkiller | nobody in #ubuntu is helping me | 21:06 |
| fagan | then id suggest just trying out the maverick live cd to make sure | 21:07 |
| Ganonkiller | nothing there | 21:57 |
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| fagan | I mean testing it out and seeing if it works for yourself | 22:18 |
| ScottK | barry: It would be nice if you could have a look a numpy sooner rather than later to see if we can reasonably split it or if we need to promote matplotlib to Main. | 22:30 |
| GoHawks | o | 22:35 |
| * psusi groans at the lack of documentation of the patches in lvm2 | 22:36 | |
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| sanduz2 | you all need to break up #ubuntu into more specific topics, the amount of people and conversation that goes there is unworkable | 23:04 |
| JohnPlay | hello | 23:19 |
| JohnPlay | how do i upgrade my ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10 | 23:19 |
| penguin42 | JohnPlay: See http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade but please note that the right channel for support is #ubuntu | 23:21 |
| JohnPlay | [doko]: thanks | 23:21 |
| JohnPlay | i meant OK | 23:22 |
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| psusi | hrm... dpkg-gensymbols: warning: some new symbols appeared in the symbols file: see diff output below. it says warning, so it should continue with the build no? but then after the diff: | 23:54 |
| psusi | dh_makeshlibs: dpkg-gensymbols -plibdevmapper1.02.1 -Idebian/libdevmapper1.02.1.symbols -Pdebian/libdevmapper1.02.1 -v2:1.02.55-0ubuntu1 -c2 returned exit code 2 | 23:54 |
| psusi | what exactly is going on with this makeshlibs stuff? it is trying to make sure there is no abi change? | 23:55 |
| psusi | but it looks like only new symbols were added, so should be ok no? | 23:55 |
| ebroder | psusi: the makeshlibs stuff is also used for generating accurate library version dependencies | 23:56 |
| ebroder | (i.e. if a executable uses a particular symbol, the package should depend on library (>= when that symbol was added)) | 23:57 |
| ebroder | So you need to update the .symbols file whenever new symbols are added, so that information is accurate going forward | 23:57 |
| psusi | ok... how do I do that? | 23:57 |
| ebroder | There should be a .symbols file in the debian directory. The format should be fairly obvious | 23:58 |
| * ebroder doesn't have an example in front of me to follow along | 23:58 | |
| psusi | don't see one... | 23:58 |
| ebroder | What package is this? | 23:58 |
| psusi | lvm2 | 23:59 |
| psusi | ok, seems there are a few different ones for different binary packages it builds | 23:59 |
| ebroder | Right | 23:59 |
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