=== Pilif12p|afk is now known as Pilif12p === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [04:21] cjwatson, we're still using gparted 0.6.2 and 0.6.4 is out and fixes the long standing bug with dmraid disks. Would it help if I were to get 0.6.4 built and tested and request a merge, or does debian need to update first? [05:10] oubiwann¦ hi, i see a lot of UDS sessions for gestures, they all seem to be about multi-touch... is anyone looking into triggering some of those gestures with mouse/touchpad? [05:10] * vish not volunteering .. ;) [05:13] vish: Note that some newer touchpads are multitouch. [05:14] yea [05:15] but some of the basic swipe gestures, could be tried with holding one of the buttons or both [05:15] there is a Firefox extension which does that.. === tgall_foo is now known as tgall_out === Pilif12p is now known as TannerBot_TEW === TannerBot_TEW is now known as Pilif12p === Pilif12p is now known as TannerBot_TW === TannerBot_TW is now known as Pilif12p === Pilif12p is now known as Pilif12p|afk === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell === hunger_ is now known as hunger === astralja1a is now known as astraljava [09:24] cjwatson: could you remove pyclamd and pyexiv2 from MoM? === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [11:10] hi [11:11] can perhaps ubuntu compile php5 with --with-curlswrappers ? [11:11] it would be really helpfull [11:11] kalkin-: file a bug, developers will review your request. it will be approved or declined [11:24] ari-tczew: where should i file it? [11:24] i have no idea about ubuntu developer stuff [11:24] kalkin-: on launchpad/ubuntu to php5? [11:25] k, i can google launchpad [11:25] normally i use gentoo on servers :) [11:25] kalkin-: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bugs [11:25] thanks [11:26] i will do it [11:26] but another question [11:26] i'm build php *.deb packages from source [11:26] i checked out with apt-get source php5 [11:26] installed all dependencies [11:26] changed debian/rules to contain the --with-curlwrappers [11:27] but when i'm running sudo dpkg-buildpackage -j16 i get the following error [11:27] http://nopaste.info/701d703bf6.html [11:28] i build like this php packages for ubuntu php5-5.2 and it worked [11:28] but with php5.3 it doesn't work [11:28] anymore [11:28] becuase the build process fails [11:31] any idea? [11:33] kalkin-: that's only a partial log [11:34] sladen: the whole log is REALY long [11:34] kalkin-: first result from a quick google is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874013 [11:35] sladen: thanks, but it doesn't really help me [11:35] kalkin-: right, and neither does an incomplete log file help me to help you :) [11:36] sladen: how much i want to see? :) [11:36] kalkin-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ shouldn't have any limit [11:38] i will just build it again and show you the whole log [11:55] filled out the bug on launchpad [11:55] how long it takes someone to react on this, and will be the switch added to current version? [11:55] fuck i just noticed i use 10.4 lts [11:55] it probably wouldn't added to lts [12:33] hi, i have 2 questions. i made my own .deb file and installed it. Why i cant find it in software center as installed package. And 2nd question. How do i get that screenshot to show in software center when i am installing package? http://codepad.org/1KHsIFrm control file [12:35] kurrata: what says aptitude search $YOURPACKAGE ? [12:40] kalkin- aptitude has it under unknows section [12:41] has it an i in front of package? [12:41] yes it has [12:41] then it's installed [12:41] hi, i have 2 questions. i made my own .deb file and installed it. Why i cant find it in software center as installed package. And 2nd question. How do i get that screenshot to show in software center when i am installing package? http://codepad.org/1KHsIFrm control file [12:42] with section you mean somethink like gnome kde ect...? [12:42] i know that its istalled, i can run it it just doesnt show up in software center [12:42] in the aptitude ncurses frontend? [12:42] kalkin- yea [12:42] kurrata: and software center has no category unknown? [12:43] it has only 1 category ubuntu supported nothing else [12:43] i'm not really in this gui stuff, never run an ubuntu desktop, but AFAIK is software center just another frontend for apt [12:43] hmm no idea, but perhaps some one else could help you [12:44] not using ubuntu to but need to make .deb file [12:55] sladen: aehm, the output is something like 41MB [12:57] here the last 1k lines from the ouput http://files.blase16.de/output2 [13:10] doko: can we sync package python-profiler from Debian unstable? [13:51] ari-tczew: We don't generally manually remove packages from MoM. If there is something that shouldn't be there, just leave a comment. === Pilif12p|afk is now known as Pilif12p [14:25] k now i'm puzlled [14:25] how the hell are you building the php deb packages? [14:25] i just downloaded with apt-get source php5 [14:26] and run dpkg-buildpackage -J16 -D [14:26] and it fails [14:26] with the same error [14:26] this way would every mainter build his package, and because there're php5 packages i think it should be build this way [14:26] *should be possible to === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === yofel_ is now known as yofel === almaisan` is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [15:18] wgrant: Kept logging me out, filed bug 661748 [15:18] Launchpad bug 661748 in Launchpad itself "keeps logging out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661748 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [16:11] disconnect [16:12] connect localhost [16:25] kalkin-: change what you want, debuild -S, then pbuilder-dist maverick .dsc file [16:25] kalkin-: you want change one flag, might be debian/rules satisfy you [17:04] ari-tczew: pyclamd and pyexiv2 removed, for the next run [17:05] cjwatson: thanks! could also remove nautilus-image-converter and ilohamail? both on universe [17:05] ScottK: they needed to be removed because they were on the sync-blacklist so MoM wasn't processing them and the merges were stale [17:09] ari-tczew: nautilus-image-converter done, but if I remove ilohamail I think it will just come back - that's genuine version confusion. why not just merge it as 0.8.14-0rc3sid6.1ubuntu1 or something? [17:10] cjwatson: previously merger messed d/changelog :/ take a look [17:11] oh of course, it can't be merged as that version because it's less. but in any event I can't simply remove it for the reason I just gave. I suggest leaving the comment there and putting up with it [17:11] ari-tczew: i added my flag to debian/rules [17:11] it'll sort itself out eventually as time goes on [17:12] kalkin-: cool [17:13] but i'm building with dpkg-builpackage is it wrong? [17:13] kalkin-: as I said, use debuild -S for build source package, then cd .. and pbuilder-dist maverick *.dsc [17:13] i will try it after this compile run is over [17:13] ari-tczew: thanks for the hint [17:13] hope it works [17:14] if your change doesn't provide ftbfs, it will work [17:16] ftbfs? [17:16] kalkin-: Failed To Build From Source [17:16] category: acronyms that obscure meanings for the uninitiated [17:17] hehe [17:20] 2 days natty opened and 150 merges reduced! thanks to all people involved [17:24] yeah, the progress is pretty good. most of the ones I have left are in the "irritatingly hard" set [17:25] cjwatson: Ah. I see. Thanks. [17:25] it's a MoM bug of course, it should at least process sync-blacklist to the extent of removing any merges on it ... [17:38] barry: well, it builds but I'm not sure if guys in debian want this :P [17:54] cjwatson: update: 177 the number of reduced merge since natty start. (560-383=177) [17:55] and this number is growing up [19:21] will libreoffice be included in Natty if it is stable then? Or will OpenOffice.org keep being the office suite of Ubuntu? [19:23] rooligan: Id say it will be [19:24] Libreoffice is stable BTW because its a fork of openoffice it is more or less the same code [19:24] so there shouldnt be anything stopping including it [19:24] fagan: ok, thanks to you :-) [19:24] rooligan: see the LibreOffice initial press release [19:25] cjwatson: I was just about to say that [19:25] I'd copy and paste Mark's comments from that but the PDF reader on my phone doesn't seem to want to let me [19:25] http://www.documentfoundation.org/pdf/tdf_release.pdf, anyway [19:26] cjwatson: thank you! [19:26] * nigelb helps [19:26] " Office productivity software is a critical component of the free software [19:26] desktop, and the Ubuntu Project will be pleased to ship LibreOffice from The Document [19:26] Foundation in future releases of Ubuntu. [19:26] he wasn't specific about which release of course, that will depend on how things work out operationally, but I imagine the desktop team will be pretty interested [19:26] There's a bit more, but that's the relevant bit [19:27] ta Nigel === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:27] np :) [19:29] Well cjwatson there shouldnt really be anything to stop it from it from being a drop in replacement to open office [19:33] what's the difference between OO.org and LibreOffice? [19:34] geser: less oracle [19:35] more google and novell [19:35] (I think google) [19:45] is there anything explicitly removed from LO so that some OOo scripts etc might not work? [19:54] penguin42: Im pretty sure they are removing all of the old star office extention crap [19:55] fagan: Ah OK, I was thinking more Java stuff - but from a distro side I guess it's tricky to replace a package if it might break some random set of users [19:55] penguin42: well the java stuff too I think [19:56] there are a few things that are linked to star office that they dont want at all [19:56] its probably in the announcement somewhere [19:56] http://www.documentfoundation.org/pdf/tdf_release.pdf === Pilif12p is now known as TannerBot_TW2 === TannerBot_TW2 is now known as Pilif12p [20:05] I'm guessing the initial effort will be mostly to integrate the go-oo patches that we already shipped. === MattJ100 is now known as MattJ === Pilif12p is now known as Pilif|afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [20:20] fagan: nothing major, I imagine, but it is likely to take a while. OOo was a beast to package; LO will probably be better since one of their goals is to make the build saner (and they've already integrated go-oo changes to that end), but even so it's hardly a five-minute job [20:22] plus, most of our OOo packaging comes from Debian at the moment, which is frozen [20:23] if they could make it build in a finite amount of space and time maybe it would attract more people to work on it [20:24] though google indicates that there's already been packaging work on the Debian side [20:25] e.g. http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-openoffice/packages/libreoffice/3.3.0/experimental/ - Rene on the ball as usual [20:35] i am currently trying to get my gps card to work on meerkat... its a ETAK GPS Card ET-GPS1 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [20:36] are the drivers still supported? [20:36] Ganonkiller: support questions are supposed to be asked in #ubuntu [20:38] i meant to ask if the drivers were developed for meerkat support [20:42] Ganonkiller: well thats something to ask the upstream linux developers we are downstream [20:42] so its still off topic for here === Pilif|afk is now known as GoHawks [21:03] geez [21:04] Ganonkiller: I hate to be bad but thats the way its done. We dont really know everything that goes on in the Linux kernel so we cant answer questions like that [21:06] i just wanted to know if the drivers are still supported? [21:06] nobody in #ubuntu is helping me [21:07] then id suggest just trying out the maverick live cd to make sure [21:57] nothing there === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [22:18] I mean testing it out and seeing if it works for yourself [22:30] barry: It would be nice if you could have a look a numpy sooner rather than later to see if we can reasonably split it or if we need to promote matplotlib to Main. [22:35] o [22:36] * psusi groans at the lack of documentation of the patches in lvm2 === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [23:04] you all need to break up #ubuntu into more specific topics, the amount of people and conversation that goes there is unworkable [23:19] hello [23:19] how do i upgrade my ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10 [23:21] JohnPlay: See http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade but please note that the right channel for support is #ubuntu [23:21] [doko]: thanks [23:22] i meant OK === GoHawks is now known as HawksWin [23:54] hrm... dpkg-gensymbols: warning: some new symbols appeared in the symbols file: see diff output below. it says warning, so it should continue with the build no? but then after the diff: [23:54] dh_makeshlibs: dpkg-gensymbols -plibdevmapper1.02.1 -Idebian/libdevmapper1.02.1.symbols -Pdebian/libdevmapper1.02.1 -v2:1.02.55-0ubuntu1 -c2 returned exit code 2 [23:55] what exactly is going on with this makeshlibs stuff? it is trying to make sure there is no abi change? [23:55] but it looks like only new symbols were added, so should be ok no? [23:56] psusi: the makeshlibs stuff is also used for generating accurate library version dependencies [23:57] (i.e. if a executable uses a particular symbol, the package should depend on library (>= when that symbol was added)) [23:57] So you need to update the .symbols file whenever new symbols are added, so that information is accurate going forward [23:57] ok... how do I do that? [23:58] There should be a .symbols file in the debian directory. The format should be fairly obvious [23:58] * ebroder doesn't have an example in front of me to follow along [23:58] don't see one... [23:58] What package is this? [23:59] lvm2 [23:59] ok, seems there are a few different ones for different binary packages it builds [23:59] Right