[01:07] <rick_> i just installed xubu 10.10 on my acer aspire 5100.  suspend/hibernate doesn't work.  any fixes?
[01:37] <linuxarrow> suspend hibernate doesn't appear at all in my menu and methinks that xfce doesn't have those options
[01:38] <linuxarrow> I have log out turn off and restart
[01:58] <beardygnome> linuxarrow: yeah, me too
[01:59] <beardygnome> used to have them in lucid, but never used them...
[02:23] <Nintnint> is no one alive on freenode tonight
[02:26] <Nintnint> person
[02:28] <Nintnint> hi
[02:28] <Nintnint> i'm having an issue
[02:28] <Nintnint> i tried to install mintmenu to get the awesome menu with xfce but now xfce just won't run
[02:34] <linuxarrow> If you want the awesome mint menu maybe try linux mint xfce and get the complete deal, and soon they will have the maverick compatible version...just a thought
[02:35] <Nintnint> NO THAT WON'T WORK
[02:37] <linuxarrow> Ok just a suggestion I have installed many versions if i found something don't work right or reinstall what you do have. Just a friendly suggestion no need for shouting.
[02:37] <Nintnint> I"M NOT SHOUTING I"M CRUISIN FOR CHICKS
[02:38] <Nintnint> nah i'm just kiddin
[02:38] <Nintnint> i'm watchin close encounters for the first time
[02:38] <linuxarrow> I can't help you there since xubuntu is babe enough for me
[02:39] <bazhang> Nintnint, please stay on topic
[02:39] <Nintnint> actually i use linux mint debian
[02:40] <bazhang> thats not supported here
[02:40] <Nintnint> isn't this #linuxmintdebian?
[02:40] <bazhang> !mintsupport > Nintnint
[02:40] <bazhang> Nintnint, you know its not
[02:41] <linuxarrow> With what version are you chatting with
[02:43] <Nintnint> oh i'm on windows xp right now
[02:44] <bazhang> Nintnint, any support questions related to xubuntu then?
[02:45] <linuxarrow> I used to use pirate xp on this computer but xp is getting old and much more dull than xubuntu and not as fast on this 8 yr old box
[02:45] <Nintnint> i don't use xubuntu
[02:45] <bazhang> lets take chat to #xubuntu-offtopic please
[02:46] <linuxarrow> Well said bazhang and thanks
[03:49] <solotim> hello. can anyone tell me where the default location of wallpaper is?
[03:49] <solotim> thanks
[05:52] <Balsaq> good morning Lords of the Code...
[08:18] <Balsaq> is it ok if in just make my swap partition 2 gb?
[08:18] <Balsaq> i really dont want to make it 7 gb just beacuse i have 3.5 gb of ram?
[08:18] <Balsaq> is there some issue with having a perfect ratio?
[08:19] <Balsaq> or is it just a matter of not running out of virtual memory?
[08:32] <CloseYetFar> it should be fine
[08:32] <CloseYetFar> my swap is almost never used
[08:37] <Khedron> Balsaq: it's an old theory when ram was expensive, double the physical, with 3.5 you could probably just turn it off entirely
[08:38] <CloseYetFar> yea i have never used more then 1 gig of swap and I have 2 gigs of ram
[08:39] <CloseYetFar> I would set 2 gigs of swap, you may need it if you plan to run virtual machines
[08:39] <Khedron> some video editing stuff uses lots too, but generally I don't get much swap used
[08:40] <Khedron> you can of course tune it with 'swappiness' but not really much point
[08:42] <Balsaq> ok so we all agree 2 gigs of swap is plenty
[08:42] <CloseYetFar> i cant see you system needed anymore then that
[08:42] <Balsaq> i mean i really want it to run all in ram
[08:43] <Balsaq> if i could make it
[08:43] <Balsaq> i accidentally forgot it on this machine and it ended up at 653 swap on its own somehow
[08:43] <Balsaq> it must require a lil bit
[08:44] <Balsaq> ill go woth 2
[08:44] <Balsaq> thanks
[08:44] <Balsaq> with
[08:44] <CloseYetFar> linux has a tendency to use all of its ram and use as little of swap as possible
[08:44] <Balsaq> good
[08:45] <Balsaq> maybe ill put 4 gigs in then, they tell me windpws wont use it al but maybe linux will
[08:45] <Balsaq> its 32 bit
[08:45] <CloseYetFar> is this 32-bit xubuntu?
[08:45] <Balsaq> yeah
[08:46] <Balsaq> thats wutni will be putting in the machine i am workin on
[08:46] <CloseYetFar> i dont think 32-bit OS's can see more then 4 gigs of ram
[08:46] <Balsaq> i know
[08:46] <Balsaq> in fact they say windows wont even see 4
[08:46] <Balsaq> i wonder if buntu can
[08:46] <Balsaq> so iwas gonna stop at 3.5
[08:46] <CloseYetFar> im pretty use its a 32bit thing
[08:47] <CloseYetFar> i think 32bit can not address above 4 gigs
[08:49] <CloseYetFar> yea, do 2^32 on a calculator, the answer is the highest number 32bit can support
[08:49] <Balsaq> so u mean it will only use 2 gigs?
[08:51] <CloseYetFar> i think with 32bit xubuntu you can only get access to a little over 3.5 gigs of ram
[08:51] <Balsaq> hmm tempting to do 4 then
[08:51] <Balsaq> they tell me windows will only see 3-3.5
[08:51] <Balsaq> so i was gonna do 3.5
[08:52] <CloseYetFar> for swap?
[08:52] <Balsaq> no for ram
[08:52] <Balsaq> im gonna do 2gb swap
[08:52] <Balsaq> just for hooo hahs
[08:53] <CloseYetFar> set it up and if it only sees part of the ram try the 64bit version of xubuntu
[08:53] <CloseYetFar> is it intel or amd?
[08:53] <Balsaq> cani do 64 buntu on a partition wit h32 bit windows?
[08:53] <Balsaq> its intel
[08:54] <Balsaq> wow never thought of 65 bit buntu
[08:54] <Balsaq> 64*
[08:54] <Balsaq> is there driver issues w/ 64 bit buntu?
[08:54] <CloseYetFar> i really dont know, i have never used it
[08:54] <Balsaq> cos i get around good on 32 bit
[08:55] <Balsaq> i dont use 64 bit xp pro becasue i know the driver supposrt isnt there
[08:55] <CloseYetFar> to be honest i think 4 gigs of ram is plenty
[08:55] <Balsaq> yeah me too
[08:55] <CloseYetFar> i would just go with 32bit
[08:55] <Balsaq> its just gotten so cheap for this ole boat
[08:55] <Balsaq> the ram went down in price
[08:55] <CloseYetFar> heh yea but some times i add ram and do not see any speed increase
[08:56] <Balsaq> i got 2 gigs on this one
[08:56] <Balsaq> seems fine
[08:56] <Balsaq> but i think ram helps future proof the machine
[08:56] <CloseYetFar> xubuntu runs fast, even on my netbook
[08:57] <Balsaq> yeah i was running it on 512 for a year or so
[08:57] <Balsaq> ran great
[08:57] <Balsaq> now i have been messin with ubuntu
[08:58] <Balsaq> can all 3 buntus be installed on one HD?
[08:58] <CloseYetFar> yea
[08:59] <Balsaq> i may try that on my big HD
[08:59] <Balsaq> never tried kubuntu
[08:59] <CloseYetFar> its just a kde gui
[09:00] <CloseYetFar> i would just download the cd and run it off the cd to try it
[09:01] <Balsaq> well i had pclinuxos  in kde once for a while
[09:01] <Balsaq> loooked like the same thing
[09:01] <Balsaq> was nice but...odd
[09:02] <Balsaq> the names of the files were kinda weird
[09:02] <CloseYetFar> i use vmware to try out software and OS's
[09:02] <Balsaq> nice lookin though
[09:02] <Balsaq> i have never done vm ware i gotta try it
[10:55] <djogli> hi, im using xubuntu 10.04, one key on my laptop is not working, so i used xmodmap to turn it off, but how to add it to run on start up, i added it to rc.local but it gives error unable to open dispay ''
[10:58] <Sysi> xmodmap -pke > .Xmodmap ; mousepad .Xmodmap
[10:58] <Sysi> then edit that file
[10:58] <Sysi> oh well, no need for  editing if you do it first with xmodmap
[10:59] <Sysi> just: xmodmap -pke > .Xmodmap should do it
[10:59] <djogli> will it work on other terminals, F1, F2 and so on
[10:59] <Sysi> just for X11
[11:00] <Sysi> ..i think
[11:00] <Sysi> you could maybe put it to ~/.bash_profile
[11:02] <Sysi> it could work from crontab too
[11:04] <djogli> where to add .Xmodmap
[11:04] <djogli> to my home dir?
[11:05] <Sysi> there
[11:05] <Sysi> that line i gave prints it there
[11:06] <djogli> yes, if i execute it from home dir
[11:06] <djogli> so it will work only when i log in ?
[11:06] <Sysi> yes
[11:06] <djogli> :S that can be problem. password typing
[11:07] <Sysi> (by default you are on home folder when you open terminal :)
[11:07] <djogli> i needed to check
[11:07] <Sysi> i don't quite know how would it work on deeper level
[11:08] <djogli> hm can i edit some key map file for X11 that makes this
[11:09] <djogli> i mean that is used by default
[11:14] <rem0te> Hi
[11:15] <rem0te> I'm having some problems installing my xubuntu.
[11:15] <rem0te> Can someone help me out there?
[13:14] <jessejazza> Installed Xubuntu 10.10 yesterday. Found that it didn't shutdown - anyone else had this problem [md5sum checked]. Downloaded 10.04 and it was fine. any ideas?
[13:14] <jessejazza> thanks
[13:33] <leoquant> jessejazza, maybe via acpi=force
[13:34] <leoquant> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force"
[13:34] <leoquant> in /etc/default/grub
[13:44] <tarek> hi people, i have the following dmesg output http://pastebin.com/QamFWmy3
[13:44] <tarek> is that normal
[13:44] <tarek> ?
[14:08] <Khedron> tarek: no, it's crashing
[14:10] <tarek> Khedron: so what is this npviewer.bin
[14:10] <tarek> ??
[14:10] <leoquant> flash
[14:11] <Khedron> firefoxs plug for flash I think
[14:11] <leoquant> yep
[14:13] <tarek> ok
[14:13] <Khedron> there's not really a lot you can do about it, flash is binary only
[14:16] <Khedron> tarek: but from a quick google, you aren't alone
[14:16] <tarek> :)
[14:16] <Khedron> bug in flash, unsurprisingly
[14:19] <tarek> is there some possibility to make a shortcut or link to a ftp address that appears like a folder and automatically builds up the ftp conneciton?
[14:20] <tarek> Khedron:?
[14:20] <tarek> Khedron:is there some possibility to make a shortcut or link to a ftp address that appears like a folder and automatically builds up the ftp conneciton?
[14:21] <Khedron> hmm
[14:22] <Khedron> possibly with the create url link, right click on the desktop
[14:22] <Khedron> but I can't say I've tried it
[14:22] <tarek> tried that but it will open the browser
[14:23] <Khedron> I don't think thunar can natively do it
[14:23] <tarek> i googeled that and it confirms that
[14:23] <Khedron> wait, gigolo can do that I think
[14:24] <Khedron> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/gigolo
[14:24] <Khedron> not an especially elegant solution though
[14:27] <tarek> Khedron:is ok installed nautilus :)
[14:27] <Khedron> lol
[14:27] <Khedron> probably easier :)
[14:36] <tarek> Khedron: me again :), wanted to know how to tell xubuntu explicitly use nautilus?
[14:42] <tarek> i used the apt-get remove command but xubuntu somehow starts thunar
[14:42] <Khedron> tarek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4490813&postcount=2
[14:44] <tarek> thanks
[16:03] <jessejazza> leoquant: thanks i'll have a look
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Hi
[17:10] <moonwatcher> hello everyone
[17:10] <moonwatcher> anyone can help me out with empathy
[17:11] <moonwatcher> I am using EVDO modem, browsing works but not empathy
[17:11] <moonwatcher> I am using gppp to connect not nm-applet
[17:13] <moonwatcher> I have tried to find empathy in gconf-editor and can not find Empathy on te app list
[17:50] <Thermi> hi
[17:52] <Thermi> i just noticed that the windowsymbols have changed D_
[17:52] <Thermi> D:
[17:52] <Thermi> where can i get the old set of symbols?
[17:53] <Thermi> from 10.04
[17:59] <knome> Thermi, use the albatross xfce theme
[17:59] <Thermi> k
[18:00] <Thermi> i mean the close/minimize/maximize etc symbols
[18:00] <knome> yes
[18:00] <knome> me too
[18:00] <Thermi> but they don't change
[18:00] <Thermi> they stay the same - at any theme
[18:01] <Sysi> window manager settings
[18:01] <knome> Thermi, settings -> window manager -> tab "style" ?
[18:01] <Thermi> let's see
[18:03] <Thermi> yay
[18:03] <Thermi> that did it
[18:03] <Thermi> thyx
[18:03] <Thermi> thx
[18:03]  * Thermi gives knome a free hug
[18:03] <knome> Thermi, well, thanks. and have fun
[18:04] <Thermi> i will :>
[18:04]  * likemindead likes the Basix window manager theme.
[18:04]  * Thermi plays a bit around with different versions of Linux in his many vms
[18:04] <Thermi> :
[18:04] <Thermi> ;>
[18:05] <likemindead> Err... scratch that, it's the Biz theme.
[18:05] <Sysi> atm oxygen on kde on suse
[18:08]  * Thermi tries out Kubuntu 64 bit in his vm
[18:08] <Thermi> my current opinion is XFCE > GNOME >KDE
[18:08] <Thermi> D:
[18:09] <evtl> :/
[18:09] <evtl> but my xubuntu is freezing when i watch a video
[18:09] <evtl> :(
[18:10] <Thermi> bad :/
[18:11]  * Thermi thinks that KDE looks a bit like OSX D:
[18:14] <Sysi> osx might be useable
[18:14] <knome> Sysi, you know well, #xubuntu-offtopic is free for you to use ;]
[18:14] <Sysi> great!
[18:15] <knome> have to admit the channel is pretty dead
[18:34] <Guest61561> bonjour
[18:36] <Guest61561> je viens d'installer xubuntu mais j'ai des problème avec vga
[18:36] <Guest61561> il y a qqun ?
[18:37] <Sysi> this is english channel, #ubuntu-fr should know about xubuntu too
[18:52] <Guest61561> hello, I just installed xubuntu on a notbook( pockard bell dot M fr / 030) but I have problem with graphics card
[19:06] <neriukas> what's problems?
[19:09] <Guest61561> is that it is not the driver of the graphics card.
[19:09] <neriukas> i don't know, but i think drivers can get ubuntu from internet
[19:12] <Guest61561> are you know wiche vertion of linux is more adapted for notbooks ?
[19:13] <Sysi> all use same linux kernel
[19:13] <neriukas> for norteook? i know ubuntu version for notebooks :)
[19:13] <Sysi> what problem you're having?
[19:14] <Sysi> ..what's notbook? (seems not typo)
[19:14] <neriukas> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ >> look down for notebook version ;)
[19:16] <Guest61561> MY MINI-COMPUTER is a Packard Bell (cpu intel atom)
[19:16] <Sysi> intel graphics?
[19:17] <Guest61561> yes
[19:18] <Sysi> they should work as well as possible by default
[19:20] <Guest61561> PACKARD BELL  Netbook Dot-M.FR/030 - Intel Atom Z520 (1,33 Ghz) -cpu Intel Atom Z520 (1,33 Ghz) - Ecran 11,6'' TFT WXGA Diamond View Led - Résolution 1366 x 768 pixels - 1024 Mo -  hd 160 Go - Chipset Intel® Graphics US15W -- Windows XP Familiale
[19:24] <Guest61561> but there are not draver for us15w :(
[19:26] <Sysi> so what's problem?
[19:26] <Guest61561>  I just installed xubuntu on a notbook( pockard bell dot M fr / 030) but I have problem with graphics card
[19:27] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060509
[20:05] <Thermi> anyone got an idea, where i can get drivers for my RADEON mobility 9000 ?
[20:12] <TheSheep> Thermi: system->hardware drivers
[20:12] <TheSheep> (or Additional Drivers, as it was renamed recently)
[20:13] <Thermi> it only gives me the option to install a broadcom wireless driver -.-
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[21:01] <Neko> did you guys lose your artists for maverick or something?
[21:01] <Neko> what is with the default desktop background being this goraud shaded circles like a baby did it? (no offense, but the one for karmic was awesome with the little birds..)
[21:06] <Sysi> Neko: you can change it to that
[21:06] <Neko> Sysi, I know but.. it's so disappointing :/
[21:07] <Neko> the gnome guys didn't do much better either with their purple acne
[21:08] <Sysi> simple is beautiful :P
[21:12] <Neko> but after the cave painting ibex and the fractal heron...
[21:13] <Sysi> (i don't like it either) but gtk theme is maybe nicest i've seen
[21:13] <Neko> ambience?
[21:13] <Sysi> bluebird
[21:14] <Neko> apart from moving the buttons to the wrong side I do appreciate what they did for gnome, for xfce it does look significantly cleaner too
[21:14] <Sysi> i've always used custom theme, exept now with kde
[21:15] <Neko> but on top of this finger painting backdrop.. you are distracted from it to that. I put the karmic backdrop in and the whole system takes on a whole new feeling like you want to run linux and not run back to windows 7 or mac ;D
[22:48] <aubrey616> Hello, i have performance problems with wireless driver ath9k for my Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:49] <aubrey616> Anyone care to help solve it or show me how to use a different driver
[22:51] <aubrey616> Hello [ECHO]
[22:52] <mark76> I can't. Sorry
[22:52] <aubrey616> mark76, what keeps you back, national security ?
[22:53] <mark76> No. I don't use wireless :p
[22:53] <aubrey616> hehe
[22:53] <mark76> But I'm sure someone around here must
[22:53] <Sysi> on what machine you have that wifi card?
[22:54] <aubrey616> its a Zotac ZBOX (nettop Ion2)
[22:54] <Sysi> ..why did i have google search for that in autocomplete (on ff startpage)
[22:55] <aubrey616> ?
[22:55] <Sysi> just wondering
[22:55] <aubrey616> its a common search term ?
[22:55] <aubrey616> you searched for it before .. ?
[22:56] <aubrey616> Google can now tell you what to search for, or suggest rather ..
[22:56] <Sysi> "Atheros AR9285 ubuntu", i really wonder why i've searched for that
[22:56] <aubrey616> correct search terms on the fly
[22:56] <Sysi> but it's irrelevant
[22:56] <aubrey616> no its not, its the hardware AR9285
[22:56] <Sysi> (ff startpage is different)
[22:56] <aubrey616> ah you mean that, hmm yes
[22:57] <Sysi> i think you can't do anything about it
[22:57] <Sysi> does it work on other os?
[23:04] <aubrey616> Sysi, yes
[23:04] <Sysi> strange
[23:04] <aubrey616> Sysi, tried it on both Windows XP and 7, driver works flawless
[23:05] <aubrey616> its a Linux problem, the driver is shitty imho
[23:05] <Sysi> how does it work badly on what xubuntu version?
[23:05] <aubrey616> so i figured i could use some common wifi driver instead of ath9k but i odnt know ubuntu well enough to accomplish that on myself
[23:05] <aubrey616> Sysi, 10.10
[23:05] <Sysi> iirc my other laptop uses it, works well
[23:06] <Sysi> try 10.04
[23:06] <Sysi> if you haven't already
[23:06] <aubrey616> yeah, 9.04 (crunchbang) worked well
[23:06] <aubrey616> problem is i wiped clean disk and reinstalled
[23:06] <Sysi> it's just downloading :P
[23:07] <Sysi> you should maybe file a bug
[23:07] <aubrey616> and i dont want to downgrade to 9.04 or so ,... time consuming
[23:07] <aubrey616> Sysi, its filed as a bug already, on bugzilla
[23:08] <Sysi> 9.04 isn't supported for long, 10.04 would be LTS
[23:08] <Sysi> you can wait until they fix it
[23:09] <Sysi> idk if you could get and use old kernel
[23:09] <aubrey616> Sysi, nods, but its not an option for me, ive set up a totally new development environment on 10.10, took me like 10 hours+
[23:09] <aubrey616> i dont want to do it again ..
[23:09] <aubrey616> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/518818  <--- the bug
[23:10] <aubrey616> ubottu, thanks
[23:10] <aubrey616> ubottu, nods
[23:39] <aubrey616> goodnight, thanks for help
[23:47] <Kangarooo> 1542 seez un palidz ar sistemu
[23:47] <Kangarooo> ups wrong..
[23:47] <vidd> !en
[23:48] <Kangarooo> yea yea vidd i know :) using alt+tab i though im back in private where i was writing this :)
[23:48] <vidd> Kangarooo, french?
[23:48] <vidd> ah..nvmd then =]
[23:49] <Sysi> more like spanish?
[23:49] <Kangarooo> vidd: no.. Latvian
[23:49] <Sysi> cool
[23:50] <Sysi> almost worse than finnish
[23:50]  * vidd has no idea what country that language is in....but suspects midle europe
[23:50] <Sysi> eastern
[23:50] <Sysi> (#offtopic)
[23:50] <Kangarooo> Heres example :) mums ir Neo kas uzlauza valsts ienenumu dienesta datubazi tacu vins attaisnots un pat caurspidigums algam uzlikts..
[23:52] <vidd> Kangarooo, i think im offended...but im not sure .... =]
[23:52] <vidd> jk
[23:53] <vidd> anybody got issues needing fixed =]
[23:54] <Kangarooo> :D no i just said " we have Neo who hacked countrys income municipalities (this i translated really wrong) database but hes let away and even transparency made for salaries.. heres in english more info.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8533641.stm
[23:55] <Kangarooo> vidd: yes i would need some help in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kangarooo/Copying im tryng to figure best way ..
[23:55] <Kangarooo> to copy files with problematic folders..
[23:56] <Kangarooo> also another problem is catfish.. not working locate
[23:57] <vidd> dunno about catfish (i only know its good fried in butter)
[23:57] <vidd> and reading your wiki page made my head hurt...i dont understand what your trying to do, but it looks like coding =\
[23:57] <Kangarooo> to make locate work some db needs to be activized? and that makes comp slower for 1 always or 2 procesing time? and takes some few mb on each milion files?
[23:59] <Kangarooo> yeah i helped one with finding all files in problematic folders with one command but then i wanted to make better command for more specific finding and copyng so thats my draft
[23:59] <vidd> im more of a "my [insert hardware here] doesnt work kind of helper