[02:17] <WFeather> Does anyone know if it is possible to put the Unity Overlay/Interface on a regular Ubuntu 10.10 install? Also Can you disable just the touch feature and use the digitizer on a Tablet PC?
[02:18] <Cheri703> WFeather: I think so, at least with the old netbook edition you could
[02:19] <WFeather> any idea how ?
[02:19] <WFeather> i have googled and googled to no avail
[02:19] <Cheri703> hmm...hang on
[02:19] <WFeather> k thanks
[02:20] <Cheri703> try "sudo apt-get install unity" and see what happens
[02:20] <WFeather> its DL'ing and installing
[02:20] <WFeather> i can turn it on then off right ?
[02:21] <WFeather> i use the tablet with a bigger monitor, but its 12.1 inch so on the go a better thign would be unity from what i've seen
[02:21] <Cheri703> when it's installed, log out (or restart) and at your login screen, you should have a "session" option in the bottom right, and you can choose unity or gnome
[02:21] <WFeather> k let me check
[02:21] <Cheri703> that's how it is with 10.04 netbook.
[02:21] <Cheri703> I didn't like unity, honestly
[02:22] <WFeather> logged out and only have the purple/pink background
[02:22] <WFeather> nothing else
[02:22] <Cheri703> as of the other day, you can't access files outside of your home folders from the launcher
[02:22] <Cheri703> click the name of the user
[02:22] <Cheri703> it should show up then
[02:22] <WFeather> there isnt
[02:22] <WFeather> just the background image
[02:22] <Cheri703> do you have the login thing? the box?
[02:22] <WFeather> nope
[02:22] <Cheri703> ok, restart
[02:22] <WFeather> just the background, rebooted, i have had it before
[02:22] <WFeather> atleast its a quick boot :)
[02:23] <Cheri703> when you get to the login screen, you can choose your user, and then choose unity (in theory)
[02:23] <WFeather> doing disc cehck that is done already
[02:23] <WFeather> same thing
[02:23] <WFeather> just pink/purple background image
[02:23] <WFeather> nothing else
[02:23] <Cheri703> no login?
[02:23] <Cheri703> at all?
[02:23] <WFeather> nope
[02:23] <WFeather> no mouse
[02:23] <Cheri703> weird, very weird
[02:23] <Cheri703> hang on a sec
[02:23] <WFeather> nothing but the background picture
[02:23] <WFeather> boot in safe mode ? -- k
[02:24] <Cheri703> worth a shot
[02:24] <WFeather> at the meniue, start in what mode ?
[02:25] <WFeather> menu*
[02:25] <Cheri703> what options are there?
[02:25] <WFeather> resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, grub, netroot, root
[02:26] <Cheri703> uhm, I don't know -_- sorry, am seeking further assistance
[02:26] <WFeather> ahh, dpkg maybe can remove it ?
[02:26] <WFeather> worst case i didnt have anything other than office installed so a reinstall wont hurt too much(wont take long, its pretty quick)
[02:27] <isiah> ok i came here to help
[02:27] <WFeather> guessing to help me
[02:27] <isiah> maybe?
[02:27] <WFeather> i'm the one where i get just the background for the login screen
[02:27] <isiah> ?
[02:27] <isiah> please explain
[02:27] <WFeather> thats my issue now
[02:27] <Cheri703> WFeather: go back to the beginning
[02:28] <Cheri703> isiah: didn't see the beginning of the convo
[02:28] <WFeather> ok.....want to get Unity overlay/skin to work in a regular Ubuntu 10.10 install
[02:28] <josuchav1> is it ok to start a side question here
[02:28] <WFeather> so Cheri suggested i do "try "sudo apt-get install unity" and see what happens"
[02:28] <isiah> i have no freaken idea
[02:28] <WFeather> and then logged out to try changing the session, and just had the pink/purple background
[02:28] <WFeather> with no way to log in, and no mouse icon showing
[02:29] <WFeather> could going into recovery menu and chising dpkg allow me to remove the unity package that downloaded?
[02:29] <WFeather> chosing*
[02:29] <seidos> Cheri703, what is the question?
[02:29] <isiah> you mean you cant login to your desktop at all?
[02:29] <WFeather> yes, nothing but the background image shows up now
[02:29] <Cheri703> he installed the unity package and logged out, and now he has no login box on reboot -_-
[02:29] <Cheri703> sorry WFeather :(
[02:29] <WFeather> lol, no worries
[02:29] <isiah> wow
[02:29] <WFeather> nothing important was on there
[02:29] <isiah> like vista
[02:30] <WFeather> most of my stuff is on the 7 install
[02:30] <isiah> just this big blank screen
[02:30] <isiah> yes?
[02:30] <GabrielYYZ> maybe recovery menu > failsafe and see if you can fix it under safe mode
[02:30] <WFeather> not blank, its the background image there by default
[02:30] <WFeather> the failsafex mode ?
[02:30] <GabrielYYZ> let me check something, sec
[02:30] <isiah> so how are you talking here?
[02:31] <WFeather> i'm on my desktop
[02:31] <WFeather> this is for my tablet
[02:31] <isiah> ok
[02:31] <WFeather> Hardware: i7 620m, 4 GB DDR3, Intel integrated graphics, 80 gig SSD
[02:31] <WFeather> dont know if any of that is prevalant
[02:31] <isiah> ok i think i see the problem
[02:31] <isiah> i am going to guess here that this unity program is stuck
[02:31] <isiah> its some type of graphics program?
[02:32] <WFeather> its the netbook interface for ubuntu
[02:32] <WFeather> the screen i have is 12 " wanted to give it a go since it seems its made for smaller interfaces
[02:32] <isiah> sounds like two programs are fighting for control of the same driver
[02:32] <isiah> i.e. your display
[02:32] <WFeather> yup
[02:33] <WFeather> using my tablet to get back into linux again
[02:33] <WFeather> havent done it much lately
[02:33] <isiah> ok we got to get rid of one then
[02:33] <Cheri703> WFeather: I prefer the 10.04 netbook launcher to unity
[02:33] <GabrielYYZ> it seems that with the failsafe x mode you can go in a troubleshooting section and check logs and stuff
[02:33] <isiah> now: there is no way at all for you to get anything but a blank useless screen at this point?
[02:33] <WFeather> yes
[02:33] <WFeather> i can go to the recovery mode
[02:33] <WFeather> which is where it is sititng now
[02:33] <WFeather> with the options
[02:33] <GabrielYYZ> that seems like a good way to go so you get an idea of what exactly is the problem
[02:34] <isiah> or, we could try a liveCD
[02:34] <WFeather> i can put in the 10.10 CD if that will work better than doing failsafe mode
[02:34] <WFeather> have to find where i placed it though
[02:34] <GabrielYYZ> but with live cd he wouldn't have access to root
[02:34] <isiah> he could mount it
[02:34] <GabrielYYZ> and i doubt he'd see any logs at all
[02:34] <isiah> and do whatever he wanted
[02:35] <WFeather> what if i go into dpkg mode from recovery menu
[02:35] <WFeather> couldnt i just remove the unity thing from there ?
[02:35] <isiah> could try
[02:35] <WFeather> well lets see what happens...
[02:36] <isiah> failing that i would look into tracking down the actual configured file and removing it
[02:36] <johnny77> paultag: Hello. How you've been?
[02:36] <WFeather> its doing a bunch of upaking and processing
[02:37] <paultag> johnny77, well, how are you?
[02:37] <isiah> I am betting it altered your startup procedure
[02:37] <johnny77> paultag: not too bad, make any headway on that backport to 10.04?
[02:38] <paultag> johnny77, no :( -- there are a few little conflicts that force a ftbfs. I'm working on resolving them, but I have to make sure not to break anything
[02:38] <Cheri703> sorry WFeather :(
[02:38] <WFeather> no problem man, nothing important is lost
[02:38] <WFeather> worst case i do an install
[02:38] <WFeather> and with the SSD its not an issue
[02:38] <GabrielYYZ> i'm partial to failsafe, if only to review the logs and xorg.conf
[02:39] <Cheri703> ok
[02:39] <Cheri703> I still feel bad
[02:39] <WFeather> gabriel ill give that a go next
[02:39] <WFeather> if the dpkg didnt work
[02:39] <johnny77> paultag: no problem. just thought I'd check. I'd sitting in desktop mode now. Can't stand the new netbook interface. BTW: what's ftbfs?
[02:39] <josuchav1> hey I have some software that I need to install but it's external to Ubuntu. I have a ZIP with the program.
[02:39] <paultag> johnny77, sorry -- failed to build from source
[02:39] <GabrielYYZ> cool, if you see an error message in the logs, do tell please
[02:39] <paultag> johnny77, that means that it compiled badly :)
[02:40] <isiah> bad complier! Bad!
[02:40] <paultag> josuchav1, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html
[02:40] <isiah> no executed code for you!
[02:40] <paultag> isiah, :)
[02:40] <WFeather> Gabrial, runnign Failsafe X
[02:40] <WFeather> got me to regular logon screen
[02:40] <WFeather> and its in like regular now
[02:40] <GabrielYYZ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/Failsafe check that for info
[02:41] <josuchav1> Cool, I'll give it a read
[02:41] <isiah> hey josuchav1 i can give you a hand with source building, your talking to a guy that built xchat from source to get millisecond increases in time.
[02:41] <josuchav1> thnx
[02:41] <josuchav1> |o|
[02:41] <WFeather> hmm, tried going into the netbook edition
[02:41] <WFeather> "No required driver detected for unity"
[02:42] <isiah> you broke the internet it seems
[02:42] <GabrielYYZ> what graphics card do you have on it?
[02:42] <johnny77> paultag: no problem, just curious.
[02:42] <WFeather> how would i go about removing unity?
[02:42] <WFeather> Gabriel, the one packaged with the i7 620m
[02:42] <isiah> a hammer?
[02:42] <WFeather> so intel integrated
[02:43] <isiah> i still think LiveCD is the way to remove it
[02:43] <GabrielYYZ> did you install a propietary driver for that?
[02:43] <GabrielYYZ> or did you go with nouveau?
[02:43] <WFeather> gabriel, i didnt install any driver for it
[02:43] <WFeather> whatever it did by stock
[02:43] <WFeather> so boot in with a live CD
[02:43] <WFeather> i'm in the desktop now
[02:43] <Cheri703> sudo apt-get remove (or purge) unity
[02:43] <Cheri703> probably
[02:43] <isiah> yes and if that doesnt work, track the file down and rm it to hell
[02:43] <GabrielYYZ> let me check something
[02:43] <Cheri703> but maybe don't listen to me anymore :/
[02:44] <WFeather> lol -- since i'm in the desktop now couldnt i just remove it here ?
[02:44] <isiah> yes
[02:44] <WFeather> so do what command ?
[02:44] <isiah> sudo aptitude remove unity
[02:44] <isiah> && echo "I hate this program"
[02:44] <WFeather> when i type:
[02:45] <WFeather> sudo aptitude remove unity
[02:45] <WFeather> i says "dudo: aptitude: command not found"
[02:45] <WFeather> sudo*
[02:45] <isiah> try apt-get then
[02:45] <WFeather> k
[02:45] <isiah> instead of aptitude
[02:45] <WFeather> k, its doing it now
[02:45] <isiah> yes!
[02:45] <WFeather> restarting lets see what it does
[02:45] <WFeather> ....guess no unity for me :D
[02:45] <josuchav> that's cool.... ok, first thing I see here is that I already unpacked the compressed file... should I delete the extracted stuff
[02:46] <isiah> (in Brain from Pinky and the Brain)
[02:46] <WFeather> ....removed unity and sitll same issue
[02:46] <WFeather> go in with a live CD now ?
[02:46] <isiah> what do you see WFeather?
[02:46] <WFeather> just the background image
[02:46] <WFeather> nothing else
[02:46] <isiah> josuchav ok move the file to where you plan to build it
[02:46] <isiah> so, how did you type anything in?
[02:46] <GabrielYYZ> i'd say check the logs, maybe unity wasn't the problem after all
[02:47] <WFeather> i had to use failsafex
[02:47] <WFeather> toget in
[02:47] <isiah> this failsafe confuses m
[02:47] <isiah> me
[02:47] <isiah> I have never used it
[02:48] <WFeather> it runs ubuntu in low-graphics mode
[02:48] <WFeather> bypassing the gfx driver i assume
[02:48] <WFeather> GabrielYYZ
[02:48] <GabrielYYZ> failsafe is like that windows mode
[02:48] <WFeather> where do i go to see the log ?
[02:48] <isiah> and you must re-login to get out of it?
[02:48] <isiah> josuchav: you should be able to find where to move it in the readme file
[02:49] <GabrielYYZ> WFeather: i assume system > administration > log file viewer
[02:49] <WFeather> ok, which log do you want me to look at ?
[02:49] <josuchav> ok
[02:49] <josuchav> checkin
[02:49] <GabrielYYZ> Xorg, daemon, boot and syslog
[02:49] <WFeather> one sec
[02:49] <WFeather> let me check something...
[02:49] <GabrielYYZ> see if there are any errors with graphics or anything else
[02:50] <WFeather> maybe it was popping up on my 24" monitor
[02:50] <WFeather> just relized it was still plugged into my docking station
[02:50] <WFeather> yup...that seems to have been it
[02:50] <WFeather> netbook edition seems to still be there though
[02:51] <isiah> josuchav: 9 out of 10 its /usr/local/bin
[02:52] <josuchav> it doesn't have a readme
[02:52] <GabrielYYZ> WFeather: found anything?
[02:52] <WFeather> gabriel
[02:52] <WFeather> i was hardware thing for me
[02:52] <WFeather> my 24" samsugn monitory (where i am talkign with you guys from my desktop)
[02:52] <WFeather> was plugged into the docking station(where the tablet is now)
[02:52] <isiah> ok josuchav could you send me a link to it, so i can see it?
[02:52] <WFeather> and ubuntu was assigning the external as the primary
[02:53] <GabrielYYZ> ah so that screwed the display of the tablet?
[02:53] <WFeather> though within the OS i have it set as well not the primary
[02:53] <WFeather> by installing unity the driver was probably reset
[02:53] <josuchav> I don't remember where I got it
[02:53] <Cheri703> ahhh, that makes sense WFeather
[02:53] <josuchav> :-/
[02:53] <isiah> you can drop it off with me
[02:54] <isiah> engine73@gmail.com
[02:54] <GabrielYYZ> definitely
[02:54] <WFeather> trying to log into unity gives me black screen
[02:54] <WFeather> anyone willing to bet the 24" and dual display thing was messing up unity and the driver?
[02:54] <GabrielYYZ> i am
[02:54] <Cheri703> WFeather: if you use dual monitors often, I found an awesome script to change primary monitor
[02:55] <WFeather> what was the install command again?
[02:55] <WFeather> it is still in the list, but it is removed
[02:55] <Cheri703> sudo apt-get install unity
[02:55] <GabrielYYZ> sudo apt-get install xxxx
[02:55] <isiah> yes! no one type that!
[02:55] <isiah> it blows up the internet
[02:56] <WFeather> yup
[02:56] <WFeather> that was it
[02:56] <WFeather> in unity now
[02:56] <Cheri703> woo!
[02:56] <GabrielYYZ> coolio
[02:56] <WFeather> and one last question now ;)
[02:56] <josuchav>  isiah, you want me to emaiI it to you?
[02:56] <isiah> yes
[02:56] <isiah> email female
[02:56] <WFeather> can i disable the finger touch, while leaving the digitizer active
[02:57] <WFeather> i like doing touch, but when i want to use it to write with the digitizer it messes up, i have it set in windows to
[02:57] <WFeather> but cant figure out how in ubuntu
[02:57] <Cheri703> if you have interest in the dual monitor thing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052784
[02:57] <josuchav> lol, ok...
[02:57] <WFeather> its not too often that i use two monitors, but ill take a look here in a min
[02:57] <josuchav> workin on sendin it
[02:57] <Cheri703> it's handy
[02:58] <WFeather> i'm guessing not alot of people have had questions about touch interface ;)
[02:58] <Cheri703> not so far that I'm aware of, paultag might know?
[02:58] <WFeather> that was a big reason i did 10.10, read that touch was fully implemented now
[02:58] <paultag> heyo
[02:58] <Cheri703> know much about touch?
[02:58] <paultag> Cheri703, none :(
[02:58] <Cheri703> hmm..k
[02:58] <Cheri703> wasn't sure
[02:59] <paultag> WFeather, I'm going to be honest, I've got no clue. Might want to ask in #ubuntu-kernel or #ubuntu
[02:59] <paultag> or #ubuntu+1
[02:59] <WFeather> k, ill look at kernel, too many dam people in ubuntu
[02:59] <WFeather> i went there first and no help after 12 asking of the question
[02:59] <WFeather> 1 minute here ;)
[03:00] <WFeather> hmm, another question now....i installed Office 2k7 through wine
[03:00] <WFeather> and now cant get it to remove
[03:00] <WFeather> Wine just freezes up now
[03:01] <WFeather> well everything but "Microsoft Enterprise 2007" is removing fine
[03:01] <GabrielYYZ> i'm windows free :S i don't even have wine
[03:01] <WFeather> i have it for one note
[03:01] <WFeather> ;) the reason i got a tablet
[03:01] <GabrielYYZ> i changed to ubuntu 2 weeks ago lol
[03:02] <GabrielYYZ> swore i wouldn't touch anything windows unless completely necessary
[03:02] <WFeather> i game alot :D
[03:02] <WFeather> and do a nice bit of folding
[03:02] <WFeather> which isnt workign well in 10.10 , well not workign at all in 10.10 now
[03:02] <GabrielYYZ> i have my neverputt/neverball moments in ubuntu...
[03:03] <josuchav> dang it! my connection is too slow to send the file
[03:03] <isiah> ok no bigy josuchav
[03:03] <WFeather> ....stupid thing wont remove
[03:03] <isiah> lets do this" move to ubuntu-beginners-team
[03:03] <isiah> i am working on the same problem there
[03:04] <isiah> got me? josuchav?
[03:04] <josuchav> nope
[03:04] <isiah> switch rooms
[03:04] <josuchav> ok
[03:04] <josuchav> what's the "#" name
[03:05] <isiah> #ubuntu-beginners-team
[03:06] <WFeather> anyone ablet o help on a WINE issue ?
[03:06] <isiah> wine is the tool of the devil! In my day we dual-booted and thats the way we liked it god-dang it!
[03:07] <GabrielYYZ> personally, i'd refer you to ubuntuforums, unless someone here is able to help with it
[03:07] <WFeather> i do dual boot ;)
[03:07] <WFeather> so go to #ubuntuforums
[03:07] <WFeather> ?
[03:07] <Cheri703> or #wine I think
[03:07] <WFeather> hmm, there is a wine channel ?
[03:07] <Cheri703> I believe so
[03:07] <WFeather> lets find out
[03:08] <GabrielYYZ> there is
[03:08] <GabrielYYZ> winehq
[03:08] <Cheri703> but it's not #wine
[03:08] <WFeather> yup
[03:08] <WFeather> in it now
[03:08] <Cheri703> there you go
[03:08] <seidos> WFeather, forums as in http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:09] <WFeather> o the actual forums
[03:09] <WFeather> i know there is a forums channel as well
[03:09] <GabrielYYZ> i didn't clarify 'cause #wine seemed like a better idea
[03:09] <WFeather> wehn you just do #wine
[03:09] <WFeather> it forwards you to #winehq
[03:10] <GabrielYYZ> yeah, it does
[03:14] <josuchav> how do I move up in directory in terminal
[03:15] <isiah> cd ..
[03:15] <GabrielYYZ> i think it's cd..
[03:15] <GabrielYYZ> ah there you go
[03:15] <josuchav> thnx
[03:15] <stlsaint> GabrielYYZ: space inbetween the cd and ..
[03:15] <GabrielYYZ> oh yeah
[03:16] <GabrielYYZ> got distracted with a notification >.>
[03:18] <johnny77> If I wanted to increase the partition that Ubuntu is installed one basically I would shrink the Windows partition then expand the Ubuntu partition, right?
[03:19] <WFeather> yes
[03:19] <isiah> yes, in the sense if you wanted to rule the world all you must do is convince 51% o people that you should
[03:21] <WFeather> you can just shrink windows with something like gparted, and expand the linux one
[03:21] <WFeather> i've done it several times
[03:29] <WFeather> what is the best way to remove stuff from the gnome menu?
[03:31] <Cheri703> system > preferences > main menu
[03:31] <Cheri703> I think
[03:31] <WFeather> ahh yes maybe that is what i want
[03:31] <WFeather> i can do delete there
[03:31] <stlsaint> johnny77: be careful with that process
[03:32] <johnny77> stlsaint: messing with the partitions? Yeah, i will.
[03:33] <stlsaint> johnny77: cool
[03:34] <johnny77> stlsaint: I think I have plenty of room right now, but maybe down the road I might need more. Just wanted to make sure I understood the process.
[03:34] <WFeather> that is the basics of it atleast... but ya careful with it
[03:35] <WFeather> since the winehq channel doesnt seem to want to answer this -- whats the best way to install via wine?
[03:35] <stlsaint> johnny77: yea,expanding can become a serious issue, i suggest that folks just edit fstab to mount the extra partition to be utilized by home
[03:35] <WFeather> by rightclicking setup.exe and running with wine ?
[03:35] <stlsaint> WFeather: the wine menu has a installer or you can right click the .exe and choose install wine
[03:36] <WFeather> where is the installer in the men?
[03:36] <WFeather> menu*
[03:36] <stlsaint> WFeather: you trying to install a app via wine?
[03:36] <WFeather> yes
[03:36] <stlsaint> meh, just right click and choose install with wine
[03:36] <WFeather> MS Office 2k7
[03:36] <johnny77> stlsaint: I have the windows partition mounted automatically when I boot into ubuntu. I know I can write to this drive, but of course, I can't install anything.
[03:36] <WFeather> thats the same as: "Open with Wine Windows Program Loader
[03:36] <WFeather> right ?
[03:36] <stlsaint> WFeather: yep
[03:36] <stlsaint> johnny77: aye
[03:37] <WFeather> hmm, getting:
[03:37] <WFeather> "Setup did not complete successfully. we are sorry"
[03:51] <WFeather> getting that error on other .exe i have as well
[03:51] <WFeather> ...any idea ? winhq channel isnt responding to my question atm -- guessing they disappeared
[03:52] <Cheri703> I pretty much gave up on uninstalling some of the wine stuff I had :/ I couldn't get it to uninstall properly
[03:53] <WFeather> i got rid of it all
[03:53] <WFeather> cant install now
[03:53] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[03:53] <Cheri703> :(
[03:53] <Cheri703> I went to a virtual box, but even that was having issues lately :(
[03:53] <WFeather> tell me about it, neither Office 2k7 or One Note 2k7 is
[03:54] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: Sowwie I did not look at the logs. and please have Wine as Plan B at whatever situation
[03:54] <WFeather> huh ? wine is giving me: "Setup did not complete successfully."
[03:54] <WFeather> error whenever it ry and run a .exe
[03:54] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: what is the reason for getting to wine?
[03:55] <WFeather> i have win 7 on the PC as well for when i do some games, or office 2k
[03:55] <WFeather> 7
[03:55] <WFeather> i want One note
[03:55] <Mohan_chml> Abi work and other applications didn't satisfy you?
[03:55] <Mohan_chml> abi Word*
[03:56] <WFeather> not for tablet use
[03:56] <WFeather> havent tried Abi word, OpenOffice does great for typing
[03:56] <Mohan_chml> hmmm!
[03:56] <genupulas> Mohan_chml,  good morning
[03:56] <WFeather> but i want to use digitizer ;)
[03:57] <genupulas> Mohan_chml,  last night i have register with nickserv
[03:57] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: and #winehq is not helping ya??
[03:57] <WFeather> it went quite
[03:57] <Mohan_chml> genupulas: cool
[03:58] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: I think the heads are away now
[03:58] <WFeather> probably a few were talking a min or 2 ago
[03:58] <WFeather> 7 to be exact
[03:59] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: you googled about your issue?
[03:59] <genupulas> Mohan_chml,  my tea hot
[03:59] <WFeather> no since i figured winhq would help (it just happened a few min ago)
[03:59] <WFeather> about to google it though since no answer there
[03:59] <Mohan_chml> genupulas: speak in -team
[03:59] <Cheri703> WFeather: I'm glad I didn't kill your tablet earlier :) and now I know to ask if someone has a second monitor plugged in :)
[03:59] <WFeather> lol, you wouldnt have killed it anyhow
[03:59] <WFeather> Ubuntu is on there as a second OS
[03:59] <WFeather> that i use when i dont want to do windowz
[04:00] <Cheri703> I have a question, before, my computer did fine when I unplugged it (this is a netbook), but now, every time I unplug, i get the "laptop battery critically low, computer will hibernate very soon unless it is plugged in" message. even when fully charged, any thoughts?
[04:01] <Mohan_chml> Cheri703: checked with some other battery??
[04:01] <Cheri703> only have the one. and my battery life is fine
[04:01] <Cheri703> it's the meter somehow
[04:02] <WFeather> your install is having an issue reading it it soudns like....no idea how to fix it
[04:02] <Cheri703> before, the icon would show fine, but the popup alert when unplugging would say "1 minute remaining" or something, but when I clicked on the icon, it'd be accurate(er), so there are 2 different power monitoring/displaying systems at work
[04:02] <WFeather> hmm, googling = no good answer
[04:03] <Cheri703> if I click the battery icon now, it says 4 hrs 10 min left, but when I unplugged it told me critical low >.<
[04:03] <Cheri703> it's not a huge deal, just annoying
[04:04] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: you installed from  Software center?
[04:04] <WFeather> installed wine from there
[04:04] <WFeather> yes
[04:06] <Mohan_chml> and the configuration shows you some errors right?
[04:06] <WFeather> config isnt
[04:06] <WFeather> its when i try running it
[04:07] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: you clciked configure wine and selected windows 7 ?
[04:08] <WFeather> even after using terminal to remove
[04:08] <WFeather> then install wine
[04:08] <WFeather> i get the issue
[04:08] <WFeather> install through what ?
[04:08] <WFeather> go to wine configuration
[04:08] <WFeather> then what ?
[04:09] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: select the windows version in "Applications"
[04:09] <WFeather> ok, then try what i have been doing ?
[04:10] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: and copy the application you want to run, to home
[04:10] <WFeather> i have the whole disc copied to my desktop, so move it to /home
[04:10] <WFeather> instead? its not installed yet
[04:11] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: copy the .exe file which you have to run. If it has some other codecs along with it, copy the whole folder. I mean copy the backup you have
[04:11] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: enough if it is in desktop
[04:11] <Mohan_chml> now
[04:12] <WFeather> ok, the whole MS Office 2007 folder is copied over to /home/user
[04:12] <Mohan_chml> hit add application
[04:12] <WFeather> just /home or into my user folder ?
[04:12] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: your user folder or in the desktop
[04:12] <WFeather> ok
[04:12] <WFeather> then in wine configuration, go to applications tab, and then add application
[04:12] <WFeather> ?
[04:13] <Mohan_chml> yes
[04:13] <WFeather> ok, select the setup.exe from there ?
[04:13] <Mohan_chml> yup
[04:13] <WFeather> k
[04:14] <WFeather> ok
[04:14] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: click on drivers and hit auto detect
[04:14] <WFeather> there is no drivers tab
[04:15] <SlayersZ> :o
[04:15] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: ummm.... where you found applications?? gimme a screenshot of yours
[04:15] <Mohan_chml> SlayersZ: o:
[04:16] <WFeather> one sec
[04:16] <WFeather> let me get it uploaded
[04:17] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: Okies
[04:17] <WFeather> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7559/screenshotmda.png
[04:18] <WFeather> there it is
[04:18] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: LOL look at the top of the applications tab
[04:18] <Mohan_chml> you can find drivers
[04:18] <Mohan_chml> :D
[04:18] <WFeather> drives
[04:18] <WFeather> is what that says
[04:19] <Mohan_chml> aww I think I am sleeping :D
[04:19] <WFeather> lol
[04:20] <Mohan_chml> okay hit auto detect in that WFeather
[04:20] <WFeather> is none
[04:20] <WFeather> "drive mappings"
[04:20] <WFeather> says: " failed to connect to the mount manager, the drive configuration cannot be edited"
[04:20] <Mohan_chml> It works good for me :(
[04:20] <WFeather> would having an SSD be an issue ?
[04:21] <WFeather> or maybe try the beta release of wine? i was ablet o install with that
[04:21] <Mohan_chml> idk about this. A proper winehq er can answer ya as I hate wine:(
[04:21] <WFeather> lol
[04:25] <Mohan_chml> WFeather: mention them about the error code if some comes
[04:26] <Mohan_chml> and tell them about the driver detection too
[04:27] <WFeather> ya, said it a few time
[04:27] <WFeather> the error code specifically i have asked about 3 or 4 times
[04:35] <rajagenupula> Am I able to set the priority for wget download
[04:36] <rajagenupula> Am I able to set the priority for wget download starcraftman
[04:38] <rajagenupula> Mohan_chml,  ^
[04:38] <Mohan_chml> !wget | rajagenupula
[04:38] <ubot2> Factoid 'wget' not found
[04:38] <Mohan_chml> aww
[04:38] <Mohan_chml> rajagenupula: read http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/
[04:39] <rajagenupula> Mohan_chml,  links..........
[04:44] <WFeather> well i'm getting jack shit for answers there , gues sill trya nother time
[04:44] <WFeather> peace guys, thanks for the help
[05:31] <earthling_> brasero seems to be stuck in "preparing to write" mode
[05:50] <GabrielYYZ> how long has it been that way?
[06:35] <bioterror> hmm
[06:35] <bioterror> I have to make a question
[06:35] <bioterror> on installation I said encrypt my home folder
[06:35] <bioterror> if I make a new user, it will be also encrypted
[06:35] <bioterror> right?
[06:45] <seidos> depends, is your home folder ~/ or /home ?
[06:45] <seidos> i'm going with ~/, but i don't encrypt it...soooo
[06:45] <seidos> bioterror, ^
[07:09] <bioterror> /dev/sdb1             459G  212M  435G   1% /home
[07:09] <bioterror> /home/sad157/.Private 459G  212M  435G   1% /home/sad157
[07:09] <bioterror> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:10] <bioterror> I've got a dedicated hdd for that one ;)
[09:07] <blackwood> Can anybody recommend a good icon set for ubuntu
[09:08] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: It depends on your wish and the environment you like to work. professional, Entertainment and mainly dark and light themes
[09:08] <hobgoblin> blackwood: that is a question likely to result in many differing answers :) I use the elementary theme and icons
[09:08] <Mohan_chml> Hola hobgoblin :)
[09:08] <hobgoblin> goodnow Mohan_chml
[09:10] <blackwood> I want something that will look good with my space wallpaper...any suggestion/recommendations?
[09:11] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: saw my PM?
[09:12] <blackwood> has anybody heard of Faenza icon set
[09:13] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: Nope. But I will look it now
[09:14] <hobgoblin> think I heard of it somewhere - but I don't muck about much anymore with themes
[09:14] <blackwood> check out gnome-look for more details
[09:15] <blackwood> it seems pretty popular. I just wanted to know if anybody  has used it before.
[09:15] <blackwood> looks promising
[09:15] <hobgoblin> well I won't be using it as I am happy with what I have :)
[09:16] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: I just looked at the icons here. http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/211/4/8/Faenza_Icons_by_tiheum.png
[09:17] <blackwood> on the same page no LOL
[09:17] <Mohan_chml> that is kinda normal (:
[09:17] <blackwood> I heard there were some more outlandish versions of this style.
[09:18] <hobgoblin> I don't like that at all :(
[09:18] <blackwood> more chrome I think
[09:18] <blackwood> no good huh?
[09:18] <blackwood> What do you guys use
[09:19] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: elementary themes
[09:19] <hobgoblin> mmmm - unless it has changed since I last told you - elementary :)
[09:19] <blackwood> hobgoblin: you never know???
[09:20] <blackwood> are there any really good icon sets out there - I mean really good
[09:20] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: some of my friends around my locality uses Ultimate edition themes. but idk how good it is
[09:20] <blackwood> let me google it
[09:20] <hobgoblin> blackwood: it is not an answerable question - it is all about personal aesthetics
[09:21] <hobgoblin> blackwood: have you seen the various screenshot threads on the forum? - there are hundreds of different themes there
[09:21] <blackwood> dude it looks like a version of Vista!
[09:22] <blackwood> Mohan_chml: that last post was intended for you
[09:22] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: I never used 'em. its my friends :P
[09:22] <blackwood> hobgoblin: I'll take a look...to be honest there are so many I can't make up my mind
[09:23] <blackwood> Mohan_chml: sure...
[09:23] <blackwood> Mohan_chml: JJ
[09:23] <Mohan_chml> blackwood: do apply a theme what you like :)
[09:23] <blackwood> Mohan_chml: sorry, say that again
[09:24] <Mohan_chml> I mean select a theme that you like
[09:24] <Mohan_chml> (:
[09:24] <blackwood> Mohan_chml: I pretty satisfied with the default theme, but as the saying goes the grass always appears greener on the other side
[09:25] <Mohan_chml> It happens. And if you like to go for a try, then make it and you can come back to default :)
[09:26] <blackwood> Cool :-) , I'll let you know how I get on
[09:27] <Mohan_chml> (:
[09:27] <blackwood> on a separate note, have you guys visited OMG Ubuntu.com?
[09:27] <hobgoblin> I hate that site with a passion
[09:27] <blackwood> the best site out there in my opinion
[09:28] <blackwood> May I ask why?
[09:28] <hobgoblin> I hate whiners and zealots
[09:29] <hobgoblin> and fanbois
[09:29] <blackwood> are you referring to the people who use it (in which case I agree to some extent) or the authors?
[09:29] <hobgoblin> I care not who looks at it :) I do not like the articles at all - but anyway enough of that - this is a support channel :)
[09:30] <blackwood> fair enough. Take care guys ;-)
[10:00] <blackwood> can anybody tell me if the ATI 5650 mobile cards work on ubuntu 10.10
[10:00] <blackwood> I'm thinking of buying one
[10:00] <blackwood> laptop that is
[10:00] <blackwood> and when I say work I mean - properly
[10:01] <blackwood> I most probably for some light gaming
[10:01] <blackwood> GIMP
[10:01] <blackwood> and anything else I can think of
[10:02] <blackwood> I'm so alone
[10:02] <blackwood> LOL
[10:02] <hobgoblin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9972740#post9972740
[10:02] <blackwood> It's you again... I mean hello
[10:02] <hobgoblin> blackwood: was a few days ago  - you're not alone it's just that people are doing things in real life ;)
[10:03] <hobgoblin> but as to whether it works properly or not I have no idea I'm afraid as I use nvidia
[10:03] <blackwood> Nice one...your a man of many talents
[10:03] <hobgoblin> blackwood: and with that I am off for some of that real life stuff - good luck
[10:03] <hobgoblin> thanks :)
[10:07] <hobgoblin> blackwood: there are a couple of useful methods for searching the forums for stuff - googlubuntu is one and adding site:ubuntuforums.org to a standard google
[10:07] <hobgoblin> anyway - I'm off now
[12:40] <Nitin_> i had a problem in installing the 10.10 version i m beginner
[12:41] <Nitin_> in the end it stays on a install wizard at the bottom of the window it says, Ready when you are and doesnt go ant further
[12:42] <Nitin_> i m able to minimize it and use the trial behind but installer doesnt complete after an hour also plz help
[13:07] <Mohan_chml> Good to see people ask and leave
[15:29] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[15:32] <slooksterpsv> hello kosaidpo - if I don't respond I'm at work so it may take me a few moments
[15:32] <kosaidpo> okies
[15:33] <Cheri703> hey kosaidpo
[15:33] <kosaidpo> well my im askin for help with apache  you . htaccess and .htpasswd
[15:33]  * Cheri703 doesn't know anything about that...sorry
[15:33] <Cheri703> if I did, I'd try to help :/
[15:34] <kosaidpo> ***tells you thanks
[15:34]  * kosaidpo thanks
[15:39] <slooksterpsv> kosaidpo: I haven't worked too much with .htaccess and .htpasswd, but I can find you some links that may be useful if you'd like?
[15:39] <kosaidpo> slooksterpsv: its okay already find it thanks alot : )
[15:40] <slooksterpsv> kosaidpo: alrighty, I'll play around with that tonight and learn it, cause I should learn to do that stuff to help others and for my own knowledge
[15:40] <kosaidpo> yehh its usefull tho
[15:50] <josecreador> plugins for pitivi?
[16:07] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[16:33] <ehcah> If I need to grow my system drive and it is locked, wouldn't unmounting it first delete my current session?
[16:34] <ehcah> I have space available after its partition.
[16:56] <genupulas> coolbhavi, hi
[19:34] <ehcah> Can someone help me with this Virtual Box error: Could not create a directory '/media/Virtual OS/Win95' to save the settings file (VERR_ACCESS_DENIED).
[19:35] <bioterror> $ sudo chown -R username.vboxusers /home/username/.VirtualBox and in this way you’ll create a new user in the VirtualBox group (substitute “username” with your username).
[19:36] <ehcah> bioterror: How on earth did I lose access to this drive? I had another Virtual OS running on it?
[19:36] <ehcah> BTW - Thank you.
[19:36] <haakoo> I have a problem with my laptop. When I close the lid, and then open it again, the computer wont come back from hibernation (or what it does), and I have to restart holding down the power button. Any ideas?
[19:36] <bioterror> hope that helps
[19:37] <bioterror> haakoo, yes
[19:37] <ehcah> tell you shortly.
[19:37] <bioterror> haakoo, when you boot your laptop, and there's this grub. edit the bootline
[19:37] <bioterror> in the end there should read "nomodeset"
[19:38] <bioterror> haakoo, we might loose sound or something, but let's test that first
[19:39] <hobgoblin> lol - that statement would strike terror into me :)
[19:39] <bioterror> well
[19:39] <bioterror> I would rather take working suspend/resume than sounds :-)
[19:41] <haakoo> at times like this I should've had two computers available
[19:41] <ehcah> bioterror:  If I created a seperate partition to keep my virtual OS's. Do I change the path from /home/username/.Virtualbox to ~/<new_partition>/ ?
[19:42] <bioterror> I would think so
[19:42] <ehcah> k.
[19:48] <hobgoblin> ehcah: you might need to fiddle about a bit with the virtual machine manager tool if you get issues - but if they have not been created yet then that will work
[19:49] <hobgoblin> I do the same thing here
[19:51] <ehcah> hobgoblin/bioterror: I made sure /media/Virtual\ OS\ Drive/ has jason:jason permission.
[19:51] <ehcah> I still can't create the virtual hard drive. Same error message.
[19:55] <geirha> find ~/.VirtualBox/ ! -user jason  # lists all files under ~/.VirtualBox not owned by you
[19:56] <ehcah> geirha: Thank you. I will try that.
[19:56] <geirha> I'm assuming ~/.VirtualBox is a symlink to '/media/Virtual OS Drive/'
[19:57] <bioterror> haakoo-, works?
[19:57] <haakoo-> about to try now
[19:57] <bioterror> oki
[19:57] <bioterror> you added that nomodeset
[19:57] <bioterror> at the end
[19:59] <haakoo-> never saw grub when I booted
[19:59] <bioterror> you can also edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:59] <bioterror> :-)
[19:59] <bioterror> but you should press
[19:59] <bioterror> was it esc or f1 when booting
[19:59] <haakoo-> think is esc
[19:59] <bioterror> and you get that grub selection screen
[20:02] <haakoo-> the only think I see before I get the login background is a flashing '_' in the corner
[20:02] <haakoo-> thing*
[20:02] <hobgoblin> esc for grub legacy shift for grub2 I think
[20:02] <bioterror> you should hammer it right after the bios screen :-)
[20:05] <haakoo-> shitf it was!
[20:05] <bioterror> now add that nomodeset in the end
[20:05] <haakoo-> on the line with initrd ?
[20:07] <ihatelinux> i need help with ubuntu server if any one cares
[20:07] <ihatelinux> is anyone out there?
[20:07] <bioterror> haakoo-, "linux  /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/626f55f1-1946-46e4-9b74-47d00bb9e119 ro  quiet splash nomodeset"
[20:07] <bioterror> something like that
[20:08] <bioterror> ihatelinux, hello, hello, hello
[20:08] <ihatelinux> ?
[20:08] <ihatelinux> can u help me bioterror
[20:08] <bioterror> if you tell me more
[20:08] <ihatelinux> I am using ubuntu server 10.04
[20:08] <ihatelinux> i cannont access the cups web interface no matter what i do
[20:09] <bioterror> I dun own any printers :(
[20:09] <bioterror> gotta lift hands up becouse I dont have any experience on that one
[20:09] <ihatelinux> o ok thanks anyways
[20:10] <hobgoblin> ihatelinux: hang about for a while and see who reads the logs - I'd help but I can't
[20:10] <ihatelinux> ok
[20:15] <ihatelinux> can anyone give me step-by-step instructions for setting up the web interface in cups?
[20:15] <haakoo-> bioterror: doesn't seem to be helping, improvement though, I get a mousepointer, not just some IRQ error rolling over the screen
[20:16] <bioterror> okay
[20:16] <bioterror> haakoo-, what kind of hardware are you using?
[20:16] <haakoo-> Acer Aspire 6935
[20:16] <bioterror> my former Dell D600 used to freeze on resume
[20:16] <bioterror> and nomodeset was teh cure for the graphics chip
[20:17] <haakoo-> i also have trouble with the "touch panel" on the left hand side, but first thing first
[20:18] <bioterror> haakoo-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/345915 you're not alone with your problem
[20:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 345915 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Acer Aspire 6935] suspend/resume failure (dups: 1) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[20:18] <hobgoblin> ihatelinux: I assume you have still not been able to see the community docs?
[20:18] <ihatelinux> which docs are u speaking of?
[20:19] <hobgoblin> ihatelinux: I also assume you are windows lover on the forums
[20:19] <ihatelinux> yes.... how did you know that
[20:19] <ihatelinux> i have looked everywhere
[20:19] <bioterror> hobgoblin must own a crystalball
[20:19] <Cheri703> ihatelinux: what are you typing in to see the cups interface?
[20:19] <Cheri703> and/or have you set up the print server?
[20:20] <ihatelinux> I am trying to set up the print server
[20:20] <ihatelinux> smaba works just fine but cups hates me
[20:20] <Cheri703> are you doing this all from command line?
[20:20] <ihatelinux> yes
[20:21] <Cheri703> :/ ok
[20:21] <ihatelinux> i believe the problem is in the "listen" section of the configuration file
[20:21] <Cheri703> one sec
[20:22] <haakoo-> bioterror: cheers, I might make another duplicate
[20:22] <bioterror> haakoo-, you should
[20:22] <bioterror> haakoo, you can also try to search more. but I think the problem lies somewhere in the graphics or something
[20:23] <Cheri703> ihatelinux: Set it to listen for connections from other machines
[20:23] <Cheri703> In the config file:
[20:23] <Cheri703> change: Listen localhost:631
[20:23] <Cheri703> to: Listen 631
[20:23] <ihatelinux> i have tried that
[20:24] <Cheri703> this is old, but it has some steps (I'm still looking): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310450
[20:24] <ihatelinux> still no dice
[20:24] <Cheri703> another: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240282
[20:24] <hobgoblin> Cheri703: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596818 is what ihatelinux has done so far
[20:25] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[20:25] <Cheri703> sorry
[20:25] <haakoo-> bioterror: that sounds plausible
[20:25] <ihatelinux> yes i looked at both of those guides neither worked for me, though it is probably my fault
[20:25] <Cheri703> was helping my mom set up a google calendar over the phone earlier >.<
[20:25] <Cheri703> can you uninstall cups and reinstall it? might reset any changes you made
[20:26] <ihatelinux> how do i do that?
[20:26] <ihatelinux> sorry i am new to linux :(
[20:27] <Cheri703> sudo apt-get remove *whatever cups is called officially* then sudo apt-get install *whatever cups is called officially* I think...will look for package name, one sec, I'm doing like 4 things at once
[20:28] <ihatelinux> hobgoblin: how do you know everything that I have done thus far?
[20:28] <hobgoblin> Cheri703: you'd need to purge I think to remove any system confs
[20:28] <hobgoblin> might even be something in home as well
[20:29] <Cheri703> ok, so sudo apt-get remove --purge *blahblah cups*
[20:29] <ihatelinux> ok
[20:29] <hobgoblin> ihatelinux: I have a different name on the forums
[20:29] <ihatelinux> o ok thought so
[20:30] <hobgoblin> :)
[20:30] <hobgoblin> ihatelinux: I keep the two things seperate
[20:30] <ehcah> Any idea why I can not change the permissions of a directory? I've tried as root, myself and sudo as myself.
[20:30] <ehcah> chmod u+rxw /media/Virtual\ OS\ Drive
[20:30] <ehcah> drwx------ 1 jason jason 4096 2010-10-17 15:28 Virtual OS Drive
[20:31] <ehcah> I can not change the owner, user or group settings?
[20:31] <ehcah> The above chmod command was just an example
[20:31] <hobgoblin> ehcah: is it a linux drive
[20:32] <chavezgt> hi, pleas i have problems with my screen display, I've tried changing & restoring my resolution, sometimes it works, but each time I reboot my computer, it starts all over again. & sometimes it doesn't work at all. Here's a screenshot of my desktop:http://imagebin.org/118946
[20:32] <ehcah> hobgoblin: My laptop has 1 x 500GB drive and this a 100GB partition I created for Virtual Operating System Testing.
[20:33] <hobgoblin> yea - but is it linux windows mac? the partition you are trying to change
[20:33] <bioterror> chavezgt, you should kill your X and run "xorg -configure" and move the new xorg.conf file to /etc/X11/
[20:33] <ihatelinux> cheri708: so i remove cups then reinstall then try this all over again?
[20:33] <ehcah> Linux - Ubuntu 10.10. Sorry.
[20:33] <Cheri703> I think...
[20:33] <Cheri703> I'm checking sorry
[20:34] <ihatelinux> when i started i was using the official Ubuntu server documentation but that didn't seen to work
[20:34] <ihatelinux> seem*
[20:35] <chavezgt> bioterror, after a while it corrects itself, when i change the font in desktop preferences, can some fonts be incorrectly installed?, if so, how can I reinstall them?
[20:35] <hobgoblin> ehcah: you use numbers to change them - see this page - very useful http://ss64.com/bash/chmod.html
[20:35] <bioterror> chavezgt, looks like xorg problems to me. nothing to do with fonts
[20:35] <Cheri703> it looks like it's just called "cups" and I'd suggest you check home folder to see if any cups folders appeared, and then do a "sudo apt-get remove --purge cups"
[20:35] <Cheri703> and then install
[20:36] <Cheri703> don't hate me if it doesn't work! :/
[20:36] <ihatelinux> cheri: plus when i try to go to"ip address of the server":631 i get a 404 forbiden
[20:36] <ihatelinux> ok i'll do that then try again
[20:36] <ehcah> hobgoblin: I will try your page. I was following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[20:37] <chavezgt> bioterror, ok, how can i do what you told me?, I'm kind of newbie...
[20:37] <hobgoblin> chavezgt: what grpahics card is it?
[20:39] <chavezgt>  ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[20:39] <bioterror> chavezgt, do "lspci"
[20:39] <bioterror> oh
[20:39] <bioterror> you got it
[20:39] <chavezgt> bioterror,  ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[20:39] <hobgoblin> ehcah: the other thing is - while you might be changing permissions with chmod have you chowned it yet?
[20:40] <hobgoblin> chavezgt: you might find that resetting xorg in the recovery menu gets you back to a readable screen
[20:40] <ehcah> isn't chown only to move a file or directory from root or user ownership?
[20:42] <hobgoblin> ehcah: you;ve checked you don't need to then
[20:43] <chavezgt> hobgoblin:excuse me, where is the recovery menu?
[20:43] <bioterror> in grub
[20:43] <bioterror> when you boot
[20:44] <chavezgt> the bios?
[20:45] <bioterror> same  thing where you added that nomodeset
[20:45] <bioterror> you see the list of lines
[20:45] <bioterror> you can choose
[20:47] <taffy> looking for help to install jondo and jondofox on meerkat
[20:48] <hobgoblin> what is that taffy ?
[20:49] <chavezgt> bioterror: how can i open grub?, when i boot it directly runs ubuntu
[20:49] <bioterror> aaahhh
[20:49] <hobgoblin> chavezgt: shift just after the post menu
[20:49] <bioterror> with shift
[20:49] <bioterror> hahaha, I was thinking that you were haakoo
[20:49] <bioterror> hahaha
[20:49] <bioterror> sorry :-)
[20:49] <taffy> been trying toset up jondo, etc but keep failing?
[20:50] <hobgoblin> taffy: what is it?
[20:50] <hobgoblin> taffy: is it some windows anonymising tool?
[20:50] <taffy> hobgoblin: need help to set up Jondo
[20:51] <taffy> correct
[20:51] <chavezgt> bioterror, hobgoblin: ok, after I run recovery mode, what should i look for?
[20:51] <bioterror> reconfigure X Server
[20:51] <chavezgt> with the terminal?
[20:52] <hobgoblin> taffy: I doubt if you will have much luck getting it to work in linux - possibly with wine - but I'd be surprised - look into Tor instead for linux - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor
[20:52] <bioterror> chavezgt, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[20:52] <hobgoblin> taffy: and https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[20:54] <taffy> hobgoblin: it works fine on linux. But can't recall how I set it up a couple of days ago on another system...
[20:54] <taffy> will try tor and vidalia...cheerz
[20:55] <hobgoblin> oh - nice one - not that I can help though :(  there are a few in here will be able to help though
[20:55] <chavezgt> bioterror, hobgoblin: ok, thank you, i'll reboot.
[20:56] <kosaidpo> guys i ve make an .htpasswd to protect this folder but when i type in the psw it keep reloadin and dioesnt let me in
[20:57] <Cheri703> yeah
[20:57] <Cheri703> bah, sorry
[20:57] <Cheri703> -_- disregard
[20:57] <taffy> my conclusion is Jondo n Jondofox work with Lucid but not with Meerkat...
[20:58] <kosaidpo> guys any ideas abt my issue ?>
[21:00] <kosaidpo> guys i ve made an .htpasswd to protect this folder but when i type in the psw it keep reloadin and dioesnt let me in
[21:04] <kosaidpo> any idea guys pleas jelp me
[21:04] <kosaidpo> help me
[21:07] <bobo123> kosaidpo: that sounds like something with apache webserver or? you could probably ask in #httpd for more people
[21:07] <kosaidpo> bobo123: okies thanks
[21:08] <kosaidpo> bobo123: ohh it says can not send to channel
[21:11] <bobo123> kosaidpo: hm? you can't go to the #httpd irc-channel? can you open #apache chat channel (where it tells you to go to #httpd instead) ?
[21:12] <ehcah> hobgoblin: I've tried every command that I can find, and still can not change permissions of my new partition, or any subfolder.       drwx------ 1 jason jason 0 2010-10-17 16:06 Windows7
[21:13] <ehcah> I can not change the ownership from jason to root or vice-versa either?
[21:13] <bobo123> kosaidpo: I guess #httpd requires you to register your name or something at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[21:13] <kosaidpo> bobo123: i went there also but when isned a msg it says can not send
[21:13] <kosaidpo> bobo123: yeh i guess that too
[21:49] <kosaidpo> guys which language easy to learn C++ or python
[21:50] <haakoo> python if you ask me
[21:50] <bioterror> c64 basic! ;)
[21:50] <kosaidpo> bioterror: ??
[21:50] <kosaidpo> haakoo: yeh i have python in mind tho
[21:50] <kosaidpo> i jst wanna see peoples mind who has excperince
[22:30] <aleixosk> hi everybody, I have a pci card which isn't working. It's there; the output of lspci is alright, but t's just not being used... iwconfig doesn't show it. I don't really know what to do now.
[22:30] <aleixosk> It was working until two hours ago and then it wouldn't connect to my home network (that happens. sometimes. broadcom.) So I took it out an put it back where it was, and now this happens...
[22:48] <tmkdesigner> Hi anyone, i've installed ubuntu 10.10 on my MacBook Pro and loving it. But tried to get the 'at' key to work, can anyone please help?
[22:58] <latenite> Hi folks, I have set up my network like that: http://pastie.org/1228535 but when I boot my box gets http://pastie.org/1228538 why is it got setting the IP to 111 ?
[23:05] <LuisCarlos> Hi. I'm trying to install 10.10 netbook version, however, when I chose to install, It gets stuck
[23:05] <phillw> latenite: you might want to have look over at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[23:05] <phillw> LuisCarlos: have you run the cd self test?
[23:05] <LuisCarlos> I've installed some linux before in this same computer, in fact, I have installed 10.4
[23:06] <LuisCarlos> It is a netbook, I'm using an USB
[23:06] <LuisCarlos> In fact, I'm running 10.10 netbook from an USB Flash in this moment
[23:06] <LuisCarlos> if I chose install, it does not do anything
[23:08] <phillw> does the usb install okay on a different computer?
[23:08] <LuisCarlos> I have no other computer to try. But, I'm running it from it now.
[23:08] <phillw> it may be worth re-making it. I cannot recall how to check a usb has burned okay, but will go dig it out if you want.
[23:09] <LuisCarlos> But, is it possible to the usb to be wrong even if it runs from it?
[23:11] <phillw> yeah, the install part is a different section to the 'run live'
[23:26] <friTTe|> o\
[23:27] <friTTe|> LuisCarlos,  if you doubleclick the install on the desktop then?
[23:27] <friTTe|> in know there were some bug with choosing install when you booted up the Usb, only took you to live cd modwe
[23:36] <LuisCarlos> @friTTe I tried that too
[23:37] <LuisCarlos> it get stuck as well
[23:37] <LuisCarlos> It keeps showing the "Preparing to install Ubuntu-netbook" screen
[23:41] <friTTe|> ok
[23:41] <friTTe|> what did you use to make the usb stick?
[23:41] <friTTe|> from a Linux computer?
[23:45] <seidos> hey |friTTe|.  what's going on?  looks like he left.
[23:45] <|friTTe|> ok
[23:46] <|friTTe|> hehe i have turned of logging in and out
[23:46] <|friTTe|> gets so messy otherwise
[23:50] <seidos> |friTTe|, irssi?
[23:51] <|friTTe|> wtf
[23:51] <|friTTe|> no Xchat
[23:51] <seidos> ah, same here. parts and joins don't really bother me.  may brain has learned to ignore the color code
[23:52] <|friTTe|> yeah
[23:52] <seidos> my*
[23:52] <|friTTe|> hmm my tab button is weird
[23:52] <|friTTe|> why does all those come up
[23:52] <|friTTe|> brb
[23:52] <Cheri703> so I don't know what it is called, but you know the envelope icon that does message notifications?
[23:53] <Cheri703> is there a way to get xchat to work with it? and/or to make the away status thing work for xchat?
[23:53] <|friTTe|> havent played around that much with the config
[23:54] <|friTTe|> shmm
[23:54] <seidos> Cheri703, maybe if you have coding skills.  if there is a way other than that, i don't know of it...not that i could code my way out of a paper bag...
[23:55] <Cheri703> :/
[23:55] <Cheri703> ok
[23:55]  * Cheri703 is not a coder
[23:55] <|friTTe|> what wrong sedios with my tab?
[23:55] <|friTTe|> *seidos
[23:55] <Cheri703> what is happening when you tab?
[23:55] <seidos> |friTTe|, i don't know.  what are you trying to do?  tab completing something?
[23:55] <|friTTe|> yeah for nick
[23:55] <Cheri703> if you haven't typed enough letters to have it be one specific person, it lists everyone that it could be
[23:55] <seidos> what are you typing?  s-e-i then tab?
[23:55] <|friTTe|> but even if the field is empty all the S comes up
[23:56] <seidos> when i hit tab without anything being in the field tab doesn't do anything O_o
[23:56] <|friTTe|> no
[23:56] <seidos> what version of xchat |friTTe| ?
[23:56] <|friTTe|> c seemed to work
[23:56] <|friTTe|> s screws it up
[23:57] <seidos> you want it to cycle threw the nicks?
[23:57] <|friTTe|> 2.8.8
[23:57] <|friTTe|> yeah it does that for example c
[23:57] <seidos> what about p?
[23:57] <|friTTe|> hmm
[23:57] <|friTTe|> phaha
[23:57] <seidos> i think if there are a certain number of nicks it prints it out
[23:57] <|friTTe|> oh well
[23:58] <|friTTe|> first computer that does this on me
[23:58] <seidos> if you want it to be different, would have to change the code O_o
[23:58] <seidos> that's my guess
[23:58] <seidos> could be wrong
[23:58] <|friTTe|> well works on my other ones, but its no biggie
[23:58] <|friTTe|> hehe
[23:58] <seidos> but it looks like the behavior is the same on my end
[23:59] <seidos> O_o
[23:59] <|friTTe|> yeah and it prints them out aswell
[23:59] <|friTTe|> no need for enter
[23:59] <seidos> yeah, same here
[23:59] <seidos> s + tab lists the "s" nicks in the window
[23:59] <seidos> z doesn't...only 1 nick