=== pedro_ is now known as pedro3005 [02:17] Does anyone know if it is possible to put the Unity Overlay/Interface on a regular Ubuntu 10.10 install? Also Can you disable just the touch feature and use the digitizer on a Tablet PC? [02:18] WFeather: I think so, at least with the old netbook edition you could [02:19] any idea how ? [02:19] i have googled and googled to no avail [02:19] hmm...hang on [02:19] k thanks [02:20] try "sudo apt-get install unity" and see what happens [02:20] its DL'ing and installing [02:20] i can turn it on then off right ? [02:21] i use the tablet with a bigger monitor, but its 12.1 inch so on the go a better thign would be unity from what i've seen [02:21] when it's installed, log out (or restart) and at your login screen, you should have a "session" option in the bottom right, and you can choose unity or gnome [02:21] k let me check [02:21] that's how it is with 10.04 netbook. [02:21] I didn't like unity, honestly [02:22] logged out and only have the purple/pink background [02:22] nothing else [02:22] as of the other day, you can't access files outside of your home folders from the launcher [02:22] click the name of the user [02:22] it should show up then [02:22] there isnt [02:22] just the background image [02:22] do you have the login thing? the box? [02:22] nope [02:22] ok, restart [02:22] just the background, rebooted, i have had it before [02:22] atleast its a quick boot :) [02:23] when you get to the login screen, you can choose your user, and then choose unity (in theory) [02:23] doing disc cehck that is done already [02:23] same thing [02:23] just pink/purple background image [02:23] nothing else [02:23] no login? [02:23] at all? [02:23] nope [02:23] no mouse [02:23] weird, very weird [02:23] hang on a sec [02:23] nothing but the background picture [02:23] boot in safe mode ? -- k [02:24] worth a shot [02:24] at the meniue, start in what mode ? [02:25] menu* [02:25] what options are there? [02:25] resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, grub, netroot, root [02:26] uhm, I don't know -_- sorry, am seeking further assistance [02:26] ahh, dpkg maybe can remove it ? [02:26] worst case i didnt have anything other than office installed so a reinstall wont hurt too much(wont take long, its pretty quick) [02:27] ok i came here to help [02:27] guessing to help me [02:27] maybe? [02:27] i'm the one where i get just the background for the login screen [02:27] ? [02:27] please explain [02:27] thats my issue now [02:27] WFeather: go back to the beginning [02:28] isiah: didn't see the beginning of the convo [02:28] ok.....want to get Unity overlay/skin to work in a regular Ubuntu 10.10 install [02:28] is it ok to start a side question here [02:28] so Cheri suggested i do "try "sudo apt-get install unity" and see what happens" [02:28] i have no freaken idea [02:28] and then logged out to try changing the session, and just had the pink/purple background [02:28] with no way to log in, and no mouse icon showing [02:29] could going into recovery menu and chising dpkg allow me to remove the unity package that downloaded? [02:29] chosing* [02:29] Cheri703, what is the question? [02:29] you mean you cant login to your desktop at all? [02:29] yes, nothing but the background image shows up now [02:29] he installed the unity package and logged out, and now he has no login box on reboot -_- [02:29] sorry WFeather :( [02:29] lol, no worries [02:29] wow [02:29] nothing important was on there [02:29] like vista [02:30] most of my stuff is on the 7 install [02:30] just this big blank screen [02:30] yes? [02:30] maybe recovery menu > failsafe and see if you can fix it under safe mode [02:30] not blank, its the background image there by default [02:30] the failsafex mode ? [02:30] let me check something, sec [02:30] so how are you talking here? [02:31] i'm on my desktop [02:31] this is for my tablet [02:31] ok [02:31] Hardware: i7 620m, 4 GB DDR3, Intel integrated graphics, 80 gig SSD [02:31] dont know if any of that is prevalant [02:31] ok i think i see the problem [02:31] i am going to guess here that this unity program is stuck [02:31] its some type of graphics program? [02:32] its the netbook interface for ubuntu [02:32] the screen i have is 12 " wanted to give it a go since it seems its made for smaller interfaces [02:32] sounds like two programs are fighting for control of the same driver [02:32] i.e. your display [02:32] yup [02:33] using my tablet to get back into linux again [02:33] havent done it much lately [02:33] ok we got to get rid of one then [02:33] WFeather: I prefer the 10.04 netbook launcher to unity [02:33] it seems that with the failsafe x mode you can go in a troubleshooting section and check logs and stuff [02:33] now: there is no way at all for you to get anything but a blank useless screen at this point? [02:33] yes [02:33] i can go to the recovery mode [02:33] which is where it is sititng now [02:33] with the options [02:33] that seems like a good way to go so you get an idea of what exactly is the problem [02:34] or, we could try a liveCD [02:34] i can put in the 10.10 CD if that will work better than doing failsafe mode [02:34] have to find where i placed it though [02:34] but with live cd he wouldn't have access to root [02:34] he could mount it [02:34] and i doubt he'd see any logs at all [02:34] and do whatever he wanted [02:35] what if i go into dpkg mode from recovery menu [02:35] couldnt i just remove the unity thing from there ? [02:35] could try [02:35] well lets see what happens... [02:36] failing that i would look into tracking down the actual configured file and removing it [02:36] paultag: Hello. How you've been? [02:36] its doing a bunch of upaking and processing [02:37] johnny77, well, how are you? [02:37] I am betting it altered your startup procedure [02:37] paultag: not too bad, make any headway on that backport to 10.04? [02:38] johnny77, no :( -- there are a few little conflicts that force a ftbfs. I'm working on resolving them, but I have to make sure not to break anything [02:38] sorry WFeather :( [02:38] no problem man, nothing important is lost [02:38] worst case i do an install [02:38] and with the SSD its not an issue [02:38] i'm partial to failsafe, if only to review the logs and xorg.conf [02:39] ok [02:39] I still feel bad [02:39] gabriel ill give that a go next [02:39] if the dpkg didnt work [02:39] paultag: no problem. just thought I'd check. I'd sitting in desktop mode now. Can't stand the new netbook interface. BTW: what's ftbfs? [02:39] hey I have some software that I need to install but it's external to Ubuntu. I have a ZIP with the program. [02:39] johnny77, sorry -- failed to build from source [02:39] cool, if you see an error message in the logs, do tell please [02:39] johnny77, that means that it compiled badly :) [02:40] bad complier! Bad! [02:40] josuchav1, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html [02:40] no executed code for you! [02:40] isiah, :) [02:40] Gabrial, runnign Failsafe X [02:40] got me to regular logon screen [02:40] and its in like regular now [02:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/Failsafe check that for info [02:41] Cool, I'll give it a read [02:41] hey josuchav1 i can give you a hand with source building, your talking to a guy that built xchat from source to get millisecond increases in time. [02:41] thnx [02:41] |o| [02:41] hmm, tried going into the netbook edition [02:41] "No required driver detected for unity" [02:42] you broke the internet it seems [02:42] what graphics card do you have on it? [02:42] paultag: no problem, just curious. [02:42] how would i go about removing unity? [02:42] Gabriel, the one packaged with the i7 620m [02:42] a hammer? [02:42] so intel integrated [02:43] i still think LiveCD is the way to remove it [02:43] did you install a propietary driver for that? [02:43] or did you go with nouveau? [02:43] gabriel, i didnt install any driver for it [02:43] whatever it did by stock [02:43] so boot in with a live CD [02:43] i'm in the desktop now [02:43] sudo apt-get remove (or purge) unity [02:43] probably [02:43] yes and if that doesnt work, track the file down and rm it to hell [02:43] let me check something [02:43] but maybe don't listen to me anymore :/ [02:44] lol -- since i'm in the desktop now couldnt i just remove it here ? [02:44] yes [02:44] so do what command ? [02:44] sudo aptitude remove unity [02:44] && echo "I hate this program" [02:44] when i type: [02:45] sudo aptitude remove unity [02:45] i says "dudo: aptitude: command not found" [02:45] sudo* [02:45] try apt-get then [02:45] k [02:45] instead of aptitude [02:45] k, its doing it now [02:45] yes! [02:45] restarting lets see what it does [02:45] ....guess no unity for me :D [02:45] that's cool.... ok, first thing I see here is that I already unpacked the compressed file... should I delete the extracted stuff [02:46] (in Brain from Pinky and the Brain) [02:46] ....removed unity and sitll same issue [02:46] go in with a live CD now ? [02:46] what do you see WFeather? [02:46] just the background image [02:46] nothing else [02:46] josuchav ok move the file to where you plan to build it [02:46] so, how did you type anything in? [02:46] i'd say check the logs, maybe unity wasn't the problem after all [02:47] i had to use failsafex [02:47] toget in [02:47] this failsafe confuses m [02:47] me [02:47] I have never used it [02:48] it runs ubuntu in low-graphics mode [02:48] bypassing the gfx driver i assume [02:48] GabrielYYZ [02:48] failsafe is like that windows mode [02:48] where do i go to see the log ? [02:48] and you must re-login to get out of it? [02:48] josuchav: you should be able to find where to move it in the readme file [02:49] WFeather: i assume system > administration > log file viewer [02:49] ok, which log do you want me to look at ? [02:49] ok [02:49] checkin [02:49] Xorg, daemon, boot and syslog [02:49] one sec [02:49] let me check something... [02:49] see if there are any errors with graphics or anything else [02:50] maybe it was popping up on my 24" monitor [02:50] just relized it was still plugged into my docking station [02:50] yup...that seems to have been it [02:50] netbook edition seems to still be there though [02:51] josuchav: 9 out of 10 its /usr/local/bin [02:52] it doesn't have a readme [02:52] WFeather: found anything? [02:52] gabriel [02:52] i was hardware thing for me [02:52] my 24" samsugn monitory (where i am talkign with you guys from my desktop) [02:52] was plugged into the docking station(where the tablet is now) [02:52] ok josuchav could you send me a link to it, so i can see it? [02:52] and ubuntu was assigning the external as the primary [02:53] ah so that screwed the display of the tablet? [02:53] though within the OS i have it set as well not the primary [02:53] by installing unity the driver was probably reset [02:53] I don't remember where I got it [02:53] ahhh, that makes sense WFeather [02:53] :-/ [02:53] you can drop it off with me [02:54] engine73@gmail.com [02:54] definitely [02:54] trying to log into unity gives me black screen [02:54] anyone willing to bet the 24" and dual display thing was messing up unity and the driver? [02:54] i am [02:54] WFeather: if you use dual monitors often, I found an awesome script to change primary monitor [02:55] what was the install command again? [02:55] it is still in the list, but it is removed [02:55] sudo apt-get install unity [02:55] sudo apt-get install xxxx [02:55] yes! no one type that! [02:55] it blows up the internet [02:56] yup [02:56] that was it [02:56] in unity now [02:56] woo! [02:56] coolio [02:56] and one last question now ;) [02:56] isiah, you want me to emaiI it to you? [02:56] yes [02:56] email female [02:56] can i disable the finger touch, while leaving the digitizer active [02:57] i like doing touch, but when i want to use it to write with the digitizer it messes up, i have it set in windows to [02:57] but cant figure out how in ubuntu [02:57] if you have interest in the dual monitor thing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052784 [02:57] lol, ok... [02:57] its not too often that i use two monitors, but ill take a look here in a min [02:57] workin on sendin it [02:57] it's handy [02:58] i'm guessing not alot of people have had questions about touch interface ;) [02:58] not so far that I'm aware of, paultag might know? [02:58] that was a big reason i did 10.10, read that touch was fully implemented now [02:58] heyo [02:58] know much about touch? [02:58] Cheri703, none :( [02:58] hmm..k [02:58] wasn't sure [02:59] WFeather, I'm going to be honest, I've got no clue. Might want to ask in #ubuntu-kernel or #ubuntu [02:59] or #ubuntu+1 [02:59] k, ill look at kernel, too many dam people in ubuntu [02:59] i went there first and no help after 12 asking of the question [02:59] 1 minute here ;) [03:00] hmm, another question now....i installed Office 2k7 through wine [03:00] and now cant get it to remove [03:00] Wine just freezes up now [03:01] well everything but "Microsoft Enterprise 2007" is removing fine [03:01] i'm windows free :S i don't even have wine [03:01] i have it for one note [03:01] ;) the reason i got a tablet [03:01] i changed to ubuntu 2 weeks ago lol [03:02] swore i wouldn't touch anything windows unless completely necessary [03:02] i game alot :D [03:02] and do a nice bit of folding [03:02] which isnt workign well in 10.10 , well not workign at all in 10.10 now [03:02] i have my neverputt/neverball moments in ubuntu... [03:03] dang it! my connection is too slow to send the file [03:03] ok no bigy josuchav [03:03] ....stupid thing wont remove [03:03] lets do this" move to ubuntu-beginners-team [03:03] i am working on the same problem there [03:04] got me? josuchav? [03:04] nope [03:04] switch rooms [03:04] ok [03:04] what's the "#" name [03:05] #ubuntu-beginners-team [03:06] anyone ablet o help on a WINE issue ? [03:06] wine is the tool of the devil! In my day we dual-booted and thats the way we liked it god-dang it! [03:07] personally, i'd refer you to ubuntuforums, unless someone here is able to help with it [03:07] i do dual boot ;) [03:07] so go to #ubuntuforums [03:07] ? [03:07] or #wine I think [03:07] hmm, there is a wine channel ? [03:07] I believe so [03:07] lets find out [03:08] there is [03:08] winehq [03:08] but it's not #wine [03:08] yup [03:08] in it now [03:08] there you go [03:08] WFeather, forums as in http://www.ubuntuforums.org [03:09] o the actual forums [03:09] i know there is a forums channel as well [03:09] i didn't clarify 'cause #wine seemed like a better idea [03:09] wehn you just do #wine [03:09] it forwards you to #winehq [03:10] yeah, it does [03:14] how do I move up in directory in terminal [03:15] cd .. [03:15] i think it's cd.. [03:15] ah there you go [03:15] thnx [03:15] GabrielYYZ: space inbetween the cd and .. [03:15] oh yeah [03:16] got distracted with a notification >.> [03:18] If I wanted to increase the partition that Ubuntu is installed one basically I would shrink the Windows partition then expand the Ubuntu partition, right? [03:19] yes [03:19] yes, in the sense if you wanted to rule the world all you must do is convince 51% o people that you should [03:21] you can just shrink windows with something like gparted, and expand the linux one [03:21] i've done it several times [03:29] what is the best way to remove stuff from the gnome menu? [03:31] system > preferences > main menu [03:31] I think [03:31] ahh yes maybe that is what i want [03:31] i can do delete there [03:31] johnny77: be careful with that process [03:32] stlsaint: messing with the partitions? Yeah, i will. [03:33] johnny77: cool [03:34] stlsaint: I think I have plenty of room right now, but maybe down the road I might need more. Just wanted to make sure I understood the process. [03:34] that is the basics of it atleast... but ya careful with it [03:35] since the winehq channel doesnt seem to want to answer this -- whats the best way to install via wine? [03:35] johnny77: yea,expanding can become a serious issue, i suggest that folks just edit fstab to mount the extra partition to be utilized by home [03:35] by rightclicking setup.exe and running with wine ? [03:35] WFeather: the wine menu has a installer or you can right click the .exe and choose install wine [03:36] where is the installer in the men? [03:36] menu* [03:36] WFeather: you trying to install a app via wine? [03:36] yes [03:36] meh, just right click and choose install with wine [03:36] MS Office 2k7 [03:36] stlsaint: I have the windows partition mounted automatically when I boot into ubuntu. I know I can write to this drive, but of course, I can't install anything. [03:36] thats the same as: "Open with Wine Windows Program Loader [03:36] right ? [03:36] WFeather: yep [03:36] johnny77: aye [03:37] hmm, getting: [03:37] "Setup did not complete successfully. we are sorry" [03:51] getting that error on other .exe i have as well [03:51] ...any idea ? winhq channel isnt responding to my question atm -- guessing they disappeared [03:52] I pretty much gave up on uninstalling some of the wine stuff I had :/ I couldn't get it to uninstall properly [03:53] i got rid of it all [03:53] cant install now [03:53] ah, ok [03:53] :( [03:53] I went to a virtual box, but even that was having issues lately :( [03:53] tell me about it, neither Office 2k7 or One Note 2k7 is [03:54] WFeather: Sowwie I did not look at the logs. and please have Wine as Plan B at whatever situation [03:54] huh ? wine is giving me: "Setup did not complete successfully." [03:54] error whenever it ry and run a .exe [03:54] WFeather: what is the reason for getting to wine? [03:55] i have win 7 on the PC as well for when i do some games, or office 2k [03:55] 7 [03:55] i want One note [03:55] Abi work and other applications didn't satisfy you? [03:55] abi Word* [03:56] not for tablet use [03:56] havent tried Abi word, OpenOffice does great for typing [03:56] hmmm! [03:56] Mohan_chml, good morning [03:56] but i want to use digitizer ;) [03:57] Mohan_chml, last night i have register with nickserv [03:57] WFeather: and #winehq is not helping ya?? [03:57] it went quite [03:57] genupulas: cool [03:58] WFeather: I think the heads are away now [03:58] probably a few were talking a min or 2 ago [03:58] 7 to be exact [03:59] WFeather: you googled about your issue? [03:59] Mohan_chml, my tea hot [03:59] no since i figured winhq would help (it just happened a few min ago) [03:59] about to google it though since no answer there [03:59] genupulas: speak in -team [03:59]