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thorwilgodbyk: rather interesting haskell package: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/gitit09:34
godbykthorwil: that does look neat.09:35
thorwilgodbyk: seems it does a lot of what we would want. but i guess we don't have anyone even remotely fluent in haskell ^^09:37
godbykthorwil: it seems unlikely.  daker has pointed out other similar systems written in other languages, though.09:38
godbykI think I have the links in my email inbox someplace.09:38
thorwilfor a design/artwork hub kind of site, it would make sense to put everything into a vcs, too. but you would need a database for faceted navigation/search09:40
godbykYeah.  Is there any progress on SparklePony or whatever?09:41
thorwilsparkleshare is alive and kicking, i think09:42
godbykcool09:42
thorwilor did you actually meand fedora's designhub?09:42
godbykmaybe it was the design hub.09:42
thorwilsparkleshare is a dropbox-like thing09:43
godbykI thought SparklePony was the design hub and SparkleShare was a dropbox clone.09:43
godbykright.09:43
godbykToo many sparkles!09:43
godbykYeah, the design hub: http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/Whiteboard/DesignHub (plus all of Máirín's blog entries)09:44
thorwildesignhub is on hold. mizmo doesn't have the time to do some missing design, blocking the developer. though i wouldn't count on the developer, as this was a training session09:45
godbykI see.09:46
godbykWhen you were talking about what should be done to replace the artwork wiki pages, I thought of Máirín's design hub idea.09:46
thorwilof course09:47
dutchiei have learnt a small amount of haskell09:49
thorwilgodbyk: i would have to do some conceptual work to even be sure in how far designhub would fit the bill. my gut feeling is just no, though09:50
godbykWoohoo!  dutchie's in charge of it then, thorwil.09:50
thorwillol09:50
thorwilit's great how on my post mentioning several frameworks in interesting languages, i got 2 comments in favor of django with no other arguments than familiarity and it making things "easy"09:53
godbykthorwil: I noticed that.09:54
thorwilthe developer of seaside (smalltalk) worked with ruby, python, java and a few others. guess there can't be many people like that around09:55
godbykUsually you know one or two languages really well and only have time to dabble with the rest.09:59
godbykUnfortunately, the language I have to work with most the time is C++.09:59
thorwilah, the language almost no one understands from a to z ^^10:00
quickshotHi all, I'm trying to make some screenshots for the manual but quickshot keeps showing "please wait while the screenshot list is downloaded"10:01
godbykquickshot: Which edition of the manual are you working on?  lucid-e1, e2, or maverick?10:03
godbyk(e1 and e2 have the same screenshots.  maverick hasn't been setup yet [as far as I know])10:03
quickshote1 for dutch10:04
quickshotI've had this cd for quite some time, did something change recently?10:04
godbykquickshot: I'm not sure if they've changed anything recently or not.  It looks like all of the Dutch screenshots have been taken except for 01-first-slide, though.10:05
godbykAnd I don't think you can take 01-first-slide with quickshot.  (I think it's a screenshot of the installation program's first slide.)10:05
godbykquickshot: You can download the Dutch screenshots from here <http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/data/nl.zip> and double-check that they're all correct.10:07
godbykIf you notice any errors, ping flan and he should be able to help you out.10:07
quickshotgodbyk: I think they are all correct. But how can we get the one missing screenshot?10:14
godbykquickshot: Good question. I'd ask flan. :-)10:21
godbykHe's our Quickshot developer.10:21
quickshotflan: Hi, I'm having some problems with getting 01-first-slide screenshot for the dutch language, it looks like Quickshot is unable to fetch the screenshot-list from the server10:24
quickshotlooks like flan is not here, I'll join again from my regular install10:36
* trijntje is quickshot10:50
Hannieping godbyk14:54
HannieCan anyone help me on this:16:38
HanniePATH=/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/i386-linux:$PATH16:38
HannieUse the syntax for your shell, your installation directory, and your binary platform name instead of i386-linux.16:38
dakermay be it should be like this16:45
daker$ PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/i386-linux:$PATH; export PATH16:45
nisshhHannie, you shouldnt have to set your PATH when installing tex using the instructions on the website16:48
HannieHi nisshh, I thought so too, Let me give you some information:16:49
nisshhsure16:49
HannieAfter the installation finishes, you must add the TeX Live binary directory to your PATH—except on Windows, where the installer takes care of this. For example:16:49
Hannie  PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/i386-linux:$PATH16:49
HannieUse the syntax for your shell, your installation directory, and your binary platform name instead of i386-linux.16:49
nisshhHannie, where are you getting that from?16:49
HannieLet me see:16:50
Hanniehttp://tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html16:50
nisshhHannie, ah, remember yesterday i said use the ubuntu-manual.org instructions?16:51
nisshhMUCH easier than installing the whole lot by hand16:51
HannieI have followed this:16:51
Hanniehttp://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/authors#install-tl200916:52
HannieStep-by-step16:52
nisshhHannie, yep, so why are you setting your PATH it doesnt need to be set if you use the script16:52
HannieBecause in Bash ist says Tex is not installed16:53
Hannie*it16:53
nisshhHannie, ah i see16:53
HannieChecking TeX Live version...No version of TeX Live was detected.16:53
HannieIt appears that you do not have TeX Live 2009 installed.  Pleas16:53
nisshhHannie, when you ran the installation script, did you enable the "create symlinks to standard directories" option?16:54
nisshhif you don't, that script thinks tex isnt installed :)16:54
HannieCan I do that afterwards?16:54
nisshhhappened to me the first time, then godbyk found the problem, and let me know for next time :)16:54
nisshhHannie, yep, but i forgot how lol :)16:54
nisshhHannie, best bet: ask godbyk :)16:55
nisshhgodbyk, ping16:55
HannieI just ran the installation with the letter "I"16:55
HannieNo questions were asked about symlinks16:55
nisshhHannie, yea, that works ok, but you just need to explore the script options a bit more, it is in there ;)16:55
nisshhno, you have to search for it16:56
nisshhand enable it manually16:56
HannieYou are very funny, I am as green as an apple in this16:56
nisshhhehe16:56
dutchieHannie: that is a lovely figure of speech16:56
HannieI will send a mail to the list16:56
nisshhok16:57
HannieThanks for your help again.Kevin is sleeping I suppose16:57
Hannieemail is the only way now16:57
nisshhprobably, although he wasnt last night :)16:57
nisshhHannie, or you could wait for him to wake up in here16:58
HannieYes, just before I go to bed I will try again16:58
HannieYou are such a great help nisshh. Telling me what the problem is gives me peace of mind16:59
HannieSee you17:00
Andre_Gondimhi godbyk any news about error in pt-br?19:21
nisshhjenkins, wooo! finally got hold of you on irc! :)19:46
jenkinssoory been really busy19:46
jenkinsreal life has been mad. I think I have it sorted now19:46
nisshhjenkins, that's ok, i was just going to ask you about two things19:46
jenkinsgo on19:47
nisshh1) any idea when the tex live PPA will be back up?19:47
nisshh2) what about Quickshot for the dev manual?19:47
jenkinsa long time as they are redoing how they are packaging tex live19:47
nisshhok19:48
nisshhjenkins, i have had several people ask me about it19:48
jenkinsyou are welcome to use it for the manual, You will need a server and some samples.19:48
nisshhand ive had to help out many people who have trouble using the script :)19:48
nisshhok19:48
jenkinsunfortunaly I can't package it all my self :(19:48
nisshhyea19:48
nisshhjenkins, the PPA is not super important, just very useful19:49
jenkinsI agree19:49
nisshhjenkins, what kind of stuff does quickshot need on the server?19:49
jenkinsspace to store the pictures erm. not sure tbh you will need to ask flan but . PHP and python i woul dguess19:50
nisshhok19:50
nisshhi assume there is some sort of quickshot-server package to install? or is it a bit of a hack to setup?19:50
nisshhflan, ping19:50
jenkinsthere is no package but i am sure flan has it well explianed. I should work out how to install it myself19:51
nisshhok, cool19:51
nisshhjenkins, what timezone is flan?19:51
jenkinshe is in central canada i am just double checking19:53
nisshhok, so he is probably asleep, like godbyk is :)19:54
jenkinsis 1 in the afternoon for flan. he is not always at his pc on a weekend19:56
nisshhyea19:56
nisshhill catch him during the week hopefully then :)19:56
nisshhthanks jenkins :)19:56
jenkinsAmerica/Edmonton is his time zone19:58
nisshhcool19:58
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