[09:34] <thorwil> godbyk: rather interesting haskell package: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/gitit
[09:35] <godbyk> thorwil: that does look neat.
[09:37] <thorwil> godbyk: seems it does a lot of what we would want. but i guess we don't have anyone even remotely fluent in haskell ^^
[09:38] <godbyk> thorwil: it seems unlikely.  daker has pointed out other similar systems written in other languages, though.
[09:38] <godbyk> I think I have the links in my email inbox someplace.
[09:40] <thorwil> for a design/artwork hub kind of site, it would make sense to put everything into a vcs, too. but you would need a database for faceted navigation/search
[09:41] <godbyk> Yeah.  Is there any progress on SparklePony or whatever?
[09:42] <thorwil> sparkleshare is alive and kicking, i think
[09:42] <godbyk> cool
[09:42] <thorwil> or did you actually meand fedora's designhub?
[09:42] <godbyk> maybe it was the design hub.
[09:43] <thorwil> sparkleshare is a dropbox-like thing
[09:43] <godbyk> I thought SparklePony was the design hub and SparkleShare was a dropbox clone.
[09:43] <godbyk> right.
[09:43] <godbyk> Too many sparkles!
[09:44] <godbyk> Yeah, the design hub: http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/Whiteboard/DesignHub (plus all of Máirín's blog entries)
[09:45] <thorwil> designhub is on hold. mizmo doesn't have the time to do some missing design, blocking the developer. though i wouldn't count on the developer, as this was a training session
[09:46] <godbyk> I see.
[09:46] <godbyk> When you were talking about what should be done to replace the artwork wiki pages, I thought of Máirín's design hub idea.
[09:47] <thorwil> of course
[09:49] <dutchie> i have learnt a small amount of haskell
[09:50] <thorwil> godbyk: i would have to do some conceptual work to even be sure in how far designhub would fit the bill. my gut feeling is just no, though
[09:50] <godbyk> Woohoo!  dutchie's in charge of it then, thorwil.
[09:50] <thorwil> lol
[09:53] <thorwil> it's great how on my post mentioning several frameworks in interesting languages, i got 2 comments in favor of django with no other arguments than familiarity and it making things "easy"
[09:54] <godbyk> thorwil: I noticed that.
[09:55] <thorwil> the developer of seaside (smalltalk) worked with ruby, python, java and a few others. guess there can't be many people like that around
[09:59] <godbyk> Usually you know one or two languages really well and only have time to dabble with the rest.
[09:59] <godbyk> Unfortunately, the language I have to work with most the time is C++.
[10:00] <thorwil> ah, the language almost no one understands from a to z ^^
[10:01] <quickshot> Hi all, I'm trying to make some screenshots for the manual but quickshot keeps showing "please wait while the screenshot list is downloaded"
[10:03] <godbyk> quickshot: Which edition of the manual are you working on?  lucid-e1, e2, or maverick?
[10:03] <godbyk> (e1 and e2 have the same screenshots.  maverick hasn't been setup yet [as far as I know])
[10:04] <quickshot> e1 for dutch
[10:04] <quickshot> I've had this cd for quite some time, did something change recently?
[10:05] <godbyk> quickshot: I'm not sure if they've changed anything recently or not.  It looks like all of the Dutch screenshots have been taken except for 01-first-slide, though.
[10:05] <godbyk> And I don't think you can take 01-first-slide with quickshot.  (I think it's a screenshot of the installation program's first slide.)
[10:07] <godbyk> quickshot: You can download the Dutch screenshots from here <http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/data/nl.zip> and double-check that they're all correct.
[10:07] <godbyk> If you notice any errors, ping flan and he should be able to help you out.
[10:14] <quickshot> godbyk: I think they are all correct. But how can we get the one missing screenshot?
[10:21] <godbyk> quickshot: Good question. I'd ask flan. :-)
[10:21] <godbyk> He's our Quickshot developer.
[10:24] <quickshot> flan: Hi, I'm having some problems with getting 01-first-slide screenshot for the dutch language, it looks like Quickshot is unable to fetch the screenshot-list from the server
[10:36] <quickshot> looks like flan is not here, I'll join again from my regular install
[10:50]  * trijntje is quickshot
[14:54] <Hannie> ping godbyk
[16:38] <Hannie> Can anyone help me on this:
[16:38] <Hannie> PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/i386-linux:$PATH
[16:38] <Hannie> Use the syntax for your shell, your installation directory, and your binary platform name instead of i386-linux.
[16:45] <daker> may be it should be like this
[16:45] <daker> $ PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/i386-linux:$PATH; export PATH
[16:48] <nisshh> Hannie, you shouldnt have to set your PATH when installing tex using the instructions on the website
[16:49] <Hannie> Hi nisshh, I thought so too, Let me give you some information:
[16:49] <nisshh> sure
[16:49] <Hannie> After the installation finishes, you must add the TeX Live binary directory to your PATH—except on Windows, where the installer takes care of this. For example:
[16:49] <Hannie>   PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/i386-linux:$PATH
[16:49] <Hannie> Use the syntax for your shell, your installation directory, and your binary platform name instead of i386-linux.
[16:49] <nisshh> Hannie, where are you getting that from?
[16:50] <Hannie> Let me see:
[16:50] <Hannie> http://tug.org/texlive/quickinstall.html
[16:51] <nisshh> Hannie, ah, remember yesterday i said use the ubuntu-manual.org instructions?
[16:51] <nisshh> MUCH easier than installing the whole lot by hand
[16:51] <Hannie> I have followed this:
[16:52] <Hannie> http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/authors#install-tl2009
[16:52] <Hannie> Step-by-step
[16:52] <nisshh> Hannie, yep, so why are you setting your PATH it doesnt need to be set if you use the script
[16:53] <Hannie> Because in Bash ist says Tex is not installed
[16:53] <Hannie> *it
[16:53] <nisshh> Hannie, ah i see
[16:53] <Hannie> Checking TeX Live version...No version of TeX Live was detected.
[16:53] <Hannie> It appears that you do not have TeX Live 2009 installed.  Pleas
[16:54] <nisshh> Hannie, when you ran the installation script, did you enable the "create symlinks to standard directories" option?
[16:54] <nisshh> if you don't, that script thinks tex isnt installed :)
[16:54] <Hannie> Can I do that afterwards?
[16:54] <nisshh> happened to me the first time, then godbyk found the problem, and let me know for next time :)
[16:54] <nisshh> Hannie, yep, but i forgot how lol :)
[16:55] <nisshh> Hannie, best bet: ask godbyk :)
[16:55] <nisshh> godbyk, ping
[16:55] <Hannie> I just ran the installation with the letter "I"
[16:55] <Hannie> No questions were asked about symlinks
[16:55] <nisshh> Hannie, yea, that works ok, but you just need to explore the script options a bit more, it is in there ;)
[16:56] <nisshh> no, you have to search for it
[16:56] <nisshh> and enable it manually
[16:56] <Hannie> You are very funny, I am as green as an apple in this
[16:56] <nisshh> hehe
[16:56] <dutchie> Hannie: that is a lovely figure of speech
[16:56] <Hannie> I will send a mail to the list
[16:57] <nisshh> ok
[16:57] <Hannie> Thanks for your help again.Kevin is sleeping I suppose
[16:57] <Hannie> email is the only way now
[16:57] <nisshh> probably, although he wasnt last night :)
[16:58] <nisshh> Hannie, or you could wait for him to wake up in here
[16:58] <Hannie> Yes, just before I go to bed I will try again
[16:59] <Hannie> You are such a great help nisshh. Telling me what the problem is gives me peace of mind
[17:00] <Hannie> See you
[19:21] <Andre_Gondim> hi godbyk any news about error in pt-br?
[19:46] <nisshh> jenkins, wooo! finally got hold of you on irc! :)
[19:46] <jenkins> soory been really busy
[19:46] <jenkins> real life has been mad. I think I have it sorted now
[19:46] <nisshh> jenkins, that's ok, i was just going to ask you about two things
[19:47] <jenkins> go on
[19:47] <nisshh> 1) any idea when the tex live PPA will be back up?
[19:47] <nisshh> 2) what about Quickshot for the dev manual?
[19:47] <jenkins> a long time as they are redoing how they are packaging tex live
[19:48] <nisshh> ok
[19:48] <nisshh> jenkins, i have had several people ask me about it
[19:48] <jenkins> you are welcome to use it for the manual, You will need a server and some samples.
[19:48] <nisshh> and ive had to help out many people who have trouble using the script :)
[19:48] <nisshh> ok
[19:48] <jenkins> unfortunaly I can't package it all my self :(
[19:48] <nisshh> yea
[19:49] <nisshh> jenkins, the PPA is not super important, just very useful
[19:49] <jenkins> I agree
[19:49] <nisshh> jenkins, what kind of stuff does quickshot need on the server?
[19:50] <jenkins> space to store the pictures erm. not sure tbh you will need to ask flan but . PHP and python i woul dguess
[19:50] <nisshh> ok
[19:50] <nisshh> i assume there is some sort of quickshot-server package to install? or is it a bit of a hack to setup?
[19:50] <nisshh> flan, ping
[19:51] <jenkins> there is no package but i am sure flan has it well explianed. I should work out how to install it myself
[19:51] <nisshh> ok, cool
[19:51] <nisshh> jenkins, what timezone is flan?
[19:53] <jenkins> he is in central canada i am just double checking
[19:54] <nisshh> ok, so he is probably asleep, like godbyk is :)
[19:56] <jenkins> is 1 in the afternoon for flan. he is not always at his pc on a weekend
[19:56] <nisshh> yea
[19:56] <nisshh> ill catch him during the week hopefully then :)
[19:56] <nisshh> thanks jenkins :)
[19:58] <jenkins> America/Edmonton is his time zone
[19:58] <nisshh> cool