[18:32] <soreau> What is responsible for copy/paste functions in X?
[18:33] <soreau> Is it X or some other component?
[20:14] <lyhana8> hi there, am I in the right place to ask for fglrx patching?
[20:14] <lyhana8> patch is to be done on fglrx kernel module to compile again on kernels with CVE-2010-3081 fixed
[20:14] <ubot4> lyhana8: The compat_alloc_user_space functions in include/asm/compat.h files in the Linux kernel before 2.6.36-rc4-git2 on 64-bit platforms do not properly allocate the userspace memory required for the 32-bit compatibility layer, which allows local users to gain privileges by leveraging the ability of the compat_mc_getsockopt function (aka the MCAST_MSFILTER getsockopt support) to control a certain length value, related to a "stack pointer unde
[20:14] <lyhana8> need for ubuntu 10.04
[22:44] <RAOF> soreau: X has a rich and complicated set(!) of copy-paste semantics :)
[22:45] <soreau> RAOF: Well it's rich with bugs now
[22:45] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Thanks for that pointer; I checked it out on Friday; that commit's not it :)
[22:46] <soreau> With recent X, seems 1.9.x, I have to copy twice before pasting
[22:46] <soreau> not that it's your guys fault but there are a whole slew of bugs in new X server
[22:47] <soreau> Delayed scrolling events for several seconds
[22:47] <RAOF> Copy twice before pasting?
[22:47] <soreau> Yes, first time sometimes doesn't work ie. empty string or old string is in the buffer
[22:47] <RAOF> Urgh.
[22:47] <soreau> have to do it twice on several occasions
[22:47] <soreau> but it's not just ubuntu, it's arch to (thus X)
[22:48] <RAOF> It's not _trivially_ reproducible here, but that sounds lovingly infrequent.
[22:48] <soreau> They really dropped the ball with 1.9.x
[22:54] <RAOF> I think the resources changes have triggered some edge cases.
[22:55] <RAOF> But by and large 1.9 seems pretty good.
[22:59] <bjsnider> soreau, what graphics driver is that?
[22:59] <soreau> bjsnider: for what?
[22:59] <bjsnider> on your system
[23:00] <soreau> RAOF: What are the benefits of 1.9.x?
[23:00] <soreau> I haven't found a single one yet
[23:00] <soreau> bjsnider: Gallium on rv350
[23:01] <RAOF> It's got faster start up, the configuration is saner (/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, etc), there are a bunch of bugs fixed, GLX 1.4 actually works, etc.
[23:21] <soreau> glx1.4 didn't work in 1.8.2?
[23:22] <soreau> AFAIC, 1.8.x was doing great before whatever exploded in 1.9.x
[23:22] <soreau> because it's pretty buggy here
[23:23] <soreau> and I have no idea why FF is completely trashed after running for more than a couple hours (of course it's a definite major resource leak in FF since it happens on 10.04 and 10.10 after some update around the same time)
[23:23] <soreau> I can't even use FF anymore without restarting it all the time
[23:24] <soreau> likely nothing to do with X, but it's yet another frustration
[23:25] <RAOF> There were no end of problems with GLX 1.4 in 1.8 :)
[23:25] <soreau> I never saw any
[23:25] <soreau> I did see the faulty mesa warning go away though
[23:25] <RAOF> Maybe they were fixed by the time 1.8.2 rocked around, but it was trivially easy to crash X with a GLX 1.4 app.
[23:25]  * soreau wonders who the hell added that warning in the first place
[23:26] <bjsnider> for whatever it's worth i'm not seeing any of this on nvidia
[23:28] <soreau> Any of what?
[23:28] <bjsnider> all these bugs you're describing
[23:29] <bjsnider> scrolling is fine, copy-paste is fine
[23:29] <bjsnider> afaik firefox is fine
[23:29] <soreau> The only X bug I mentioned was the copy/paste thing and FF is not an X bug
[23:30] <soreau> it's something wrong with their browser or some setting I inadvertently changed simultaneously on all of my boxes the use FF
[23:34] <bjsnider> thought you'd mentioned "a whole slew of bugs in new X server". not seeing them
[23:36] <soreau> Well for starters you can see compiz wallpaper
[23:36] <RAOF> I thought you'd tracked that down to a bug in libXdamage?
[23:37] <soreau> I managed to convince someone[TM] earlier today (finally) to put in a petition for a revert
[23:37] <soreau> See x.org ml
[23:37] <soreau> He was already convinced apparently but just hadn't bothered to do much about it until I bugged them to death :P
[23:38] <soreau> RAOF: Nope.
[23:38] <soreau> It's a bug in xserver
[23:43] <Wubbbi> Did the development of ubuntu 11.04 start?