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nitemovzHello all!01:27
nitemovzI am having a small issue with Ubuntu Studio and was hoping that someone would be able to help me out.01:28
nitemovzI have it ser01:29
nitemovzSetup, amd01:29
nitemovzAnd all my audio is being picked up through JACK. And JACK is distributing my audio to the applications. The only issue is, the audio from my mic is very low. Is there a way to adjust this?I do not have a pre amp yet01:30
nitemovzOr an audio interface. I am currently still using the sound card that is in my computer01:30
deep-thoughthello, one can say me like me lightscribe under ubuntu 10.10 64bit to run agrees?02:53
* holstein never got lightscribe under 64bit going03:18
holsteini was thinking about chroot03:18
holsteinif anyone sees deep-thought again...03:18
NOMADICUSHello, I am trying to figure out how to use Jack, but I can't seem to find any useful information.  Do any of you have useful links I could digest?04:52
NOMADICUSOr do you know of any other channels where people discuss audio?04:53
SoulKnifehey05:31
SoulKnifewhat's up05:31
SoulKnifeanyone there?05:34
SoulKnifeello?05:34
Guest70754Got a question; my sound is really freaking distorted on lmms and Hydrogen, been reading for about four hours but haven't found anything, anyone have any experience with this?07:04
pseydtonneNot sure I can help. Which sound card ya got?07:04
Guest70754HDA intel or something like that, need the specific one?07:05
pseydtonneI'm assuming it's whatever got built into the mobo.07:05
Guest70754yes sir07:06
holsteinwhats your JACK settings like?07:07
pseydtonneOkay, then knowing it's Intel is 75% of the way there.07:07
Guest70754uh I have Realtime checked, Force 16bit, Dither: None, Audio: Duplex, Driver: asla, everything else is on default07:08
holsteinNOMADICUS: #opensourcemusicians is a great channel for that :)07:08
holsteinGuest70754: whats the msec latency07:09
holsteindown in the right?07:09
Guest7075446.407:10
holsteinshouldnt be that then...07:10
holsteinhmmm07:10
holsteinonly lmms and hydrogen?07:10
Guest70754haven't tried very many of the other programs, used Rakarrack and it was fine07:11
* holstein is a rakkarack fan :)07:11
Guest70754:) noice07:11
holsteinGuest70754: yoshimi is pretty easy to get a sound out of07:11
holsteinyou want to tell pseydtonne what card you have07:11
holsteinand try yoshime07:11
holsteinyoshimi*07:12
holsteinand we'll all give it a think07:12
holsteinGuest70754: are you sure its not in the monitoring somehow?07:12
Guest70754no idea???07:13
holsteinmaybe try a headphone jack if you have one07:13
holsteinjust to rule out the monitoring scenario07:13
Guest70754kk07:14
Guest70754card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]07:14
pseydtonneOkay, and has this been happening since you installed, since a recent upgrade or what?07:14
Guest70754since I installed07:15
Guest70754my brother is having the exact same problem on his PC07:15
holstein10.10 ?07:15
pseydtonneYou tested a differnt Linux on the box before Studio?07:15
Guest70754well actually I'm on ubuntu, 10.10, and my brother is on 9.1007:16
Guest70754I'm on 10.04 *07:16
Guest70754sorry07:16
pseydtonneno problem.07:17
pseydtonneRegular Ubuntu then, or Studio?07:17
Guest70754regular07:17
Guest70754on both07:17
holsteinand sound otherwise is fine and dandy?07:18
holsteinwith pulse or whatever?07:18
Guest70754yeah07:18
holsteininteresting07:18
pseydtonneIf you pop in the Ubuntu CD-ROM and boot from that, does sound work?07:19
holsteinive never been able to get lmms to run long enough to make any noise ;)07:19
pseydtonneNot to install, just to run.07:19
Guest70754lol that sucks, @pseydtonne I'll try really quick07:19
holsteinits pretty strange that those 2 programs would do the same thing07:19
holsteini know lmms is buggy07:20
holsteinbut hydrogen is usually pretty cool07:20
holsteinGuest70754: how long has it been since you updated?07:20
Guest70754yeah it's working (on my brother's at least), I just did a fresh install on Wednesday and upgraded that night07:21
Guest70754came back to lunix since I don't really play PC games anymore and I found ubuntustudio07:22
holsteinwell, let me install lmms here on the 10.04 instal07:22
holsteinand see if its working07:23
holsteinwell, im getting a lot of packages from falktx's PPA though07:24
holsteini dont have an ubuntu 10.04 install around without falks ppa on it07:24
Guest70754hmmm07:28
Guest70754well I appreciate your guys' help, I have church in the morning though and I'm already up way too late07:29
Guest70754might try AVlinux07:29
pseydtonneSleep well.07:29
holsteinGuest70754: try KZstudio too07:29
pseydtonneWorry about it once you've rested.07:29
holsteinKXstudio*07:29
Guest70754thanks guys07:29
holsteinpseydtonne: you been here before?07:30
holsteineither way, glad your here, and answering questions07:31
pseydtonneFirst time here, but thanks! Answering questions is easier than asking.07:32
pseydtonneI had a question, but the next step in my problem-solving answered it.07:32
holsteincool07:32
pseydtonneWait, you're in Germany? It's 8:30 in the morning there. That's too early for the Internet on a Sunday.07:33
holsteinhehe07:33
holsteinnah07:33
holsteinim in the states07:34
holsteinits late though07:34
holsteini got in from a concert07:34
holsteinand im not ready to sleep yet07:34
pseydtonneOh, you're on a Frankfurt server. Never mind.07:34
pseydtonnePartial illiteracy.07:34
pseydtonneWho'd you see?07:34
holsteini played a concert07:35
holsteinjoes cafe is what its called07:35
holsteina guy Rupert Wates07:35
holsteinhis stuff07:35
holsteinmy girlfriend was out on tour with hiim for 2 months07:35
holsteinand they came back recently07:36
holsteinwe had their last show here07:36
pseydtonneWhere is here? I'm now guessing the Northeast from Rupert's web site.07:38
holsteinim in asheville NC07:38
holsteinhttp://www.whitehorseblackmountain.com/07:38
holstein^^ thats where we played07:38
* holstein not crazy about the venue07:38
holsteinbut we had a good show07:38
holsteindecent turn out07:38
pseydtonneGood on ye!07:40
holsteinyou on the west coast?07:40
pseydtonneBoston, actually.07:40
holsteinok07:41
pseydtonneNot a native -- been here a decade.07:41
holsteinwell07:43
holsteini gotta try and get some shut-eyt07:43
holsteineye*07:43
holsteinpseydtonne: welcome07:43
pseydtonneSleep well!07:43
holsteincheck out #opensourcemusicians if you get bored :)07:43
holsteinGN...07:43
pseydtonneokaydoke07:44
domjohnsonHello13:08
domjohnsonWhy doesn't JACK work in 10.10?13:08
persia!doesntwork13:21
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.13:21
persiaBut really, works for some folk, so maybe ask a more precise question?13:21
domjohnsonWell, it says "Can't start JACK. Sorry."13:46
domjohnsonI'll pastebin the messages iwndow13:46
domjohnsonhttp://pastebin.com/JQTHfk9x13:47
persiaWell, that's not a very helpful error message.  What did you do to generate it?14:06
persiaAs we seem to be having a rather high-latency conversation, I'll ask some more questions in advance :)14:16
persiaWhich sound card do you have?  Does audio work in other contexts (without JACK)?  Is anything else generating audio when you are starting JACK?14:17
medvindhello. I've just installed ubuntu studio 10.10. there doesn't seem to be any realtime kernel in the repositories. is this correct? I've tried googling around for an explanation but I still haven't been enlightened...14:57
astraljavamedvind: Yes that is correct.15:18
medvindastraljava, I heard that the realtime capabilities would be built into the generic kernel. Has this been done? Or should I look for a PPA that contains a realtime kernel?15:20
astraljavamedvind: I am not up-to-date on those features, but I heard something similar. Currently there doesn't seem to be a PPA offering a realtime kernel for Maverick.15:24
medvindastraljava, alright. thanks. I'll go ask in #ubuntustudio-devel about this15:25
medvindhello. I've just installed Ubuntu Studio Maverick. my gnome terminal is extremely slow/laggy. anly clues as to why this could be? i am not using any proprietary graphics driver, and nothing seems to be eating CPU.16:27
poinehello world17:16
nitemovzHello all!19:01
holsteino/19:02
nitemovzI am having some issues with Ubuntu Studio.19:08
nitemovzI was hoping someone would be able to assist.19:08
holsteinnitemovz: we do what we can...19:09
holsteinwhats up?19:09
TuXesNew Peak for this channel is 1 set on 17/10/201019:09
holsteinnitemovz: 10.10 ?19:10
TuXescan someone help me set up my network an maverick?19:10
holsteinTuXes: wireless?19:10
TuXessure19:11
holsteinTuXes: you might just want to install the normal gnome network manager19:11
holsteinthere is a reason why its not installed in ubuntustudio19:11
holsteinbut, if thats what your used to using19:11
TuXesi think it is19:11
TuXesis there a command to run it19:11
holsteinTuXes: is the machine online?19:12
holsteinwired?19:12
holsteinright now19:12
TuXesno cant do that eithe19:12
TuXesneed to set that up many=ually?/19:13
TuXesloopback?19:13
holsteinTuXes: how does the networking hardware act with a 10.10 live CD ?19:13
TuXesthere was no live studio cd dvd provided i dont know19:14
holsteinright19:14
TuXeson ubuntu fine19:14
holsteinthe normal maverick live CD will give you some insight though19:14
TuXesfine19:14
holsteinTuXes: so, your dual booting?19:14
holsteinubntu and ubuntusudio?19:14
TuXesno only studio is installed19:15
holsteinboth 10.10?19:15
holsteinAH19:15
holsteinif i were you, i would try a maverick live CD19:15
holsteinsee how the networking hardware reacts19:15
holsteinthen19:15
holsteinlook at lspci19:15
holsteinsee if both the networking adapters are being recognized19:16
holsteinTuXes: you can run that right now19:16
holsteinopen a terminal19:16
holsteinand run19:16
holsteinlspci19:16
TuXesisnt there a way to set networking up in terminal, like the loopback19:16
holsteinyou should see your network adapters19:16
TuXesok. i have to step away a sec19:16
holsteinTuXes: sure19:16
holsteinbut we should see if the adapters are being recoginzed19:17
TuXessudo lspci?19:17
holsteinnah19:17
holsteinjust lspci should do it19:17
TuXesk19:17
holstein01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)19:17
holstein01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)19:17
holsteinTuXes: ^^ thats my networking hardware19:18
TuXesintel wifi and broadcom gigalink it finds19:19
holsteincool19:19
TuXes>:)19:19
TuXesmudt be a dell19:19
holsteinTuXes: try19:19
holsteinifconfig19:19
holsteinsee if you have an entry for eth019:20
holsteinTuXes: you can try19:20
holsteinplugging in the network cable19:20
holsteinand restarting the box19:20
holsteinthat would be an easy test for the wired connection19:21
TuXesthrs an adrs, broadcast & mask for the gigalink19:21
holsteinTuXes: OK19:21
holsteintry19:21
TuXesiterupt19:21
holsteinping -c 4 google.com19:21
TuXesno what19:23
TuXesi dint have the cable fully plugged in, should i restart19:23
TuXesi got unkonw host19:23
holsteinhttp://imagebin.org/11892819:23
holsteinTuXes: ^^ thats what it'll look like19:24
holsteinTuXes: sure19:24
holsteinthats the easiest way i think19:24
holsteinthen you'll know19:24
holsteinand be able to install the other network manager if you choose19:24
TuXesok i got uahoo on sydio with etho19:26
TuXestu19:26
TuXesnow to get wifi going19:26
holsteinTuXes: cool19:28
TuXeswiredcd isnt there somthing like that19:28
holsteinlet me find that package name...19:28
TuXesty19:28
holsteinOK19:29
holsteintry19:29
holsteinsudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome19:30
TuXesok19:30
holsteinprobably have to restart19:30
holsteinbut you should then have the old familiar tray applet19:30
holsteinthe nm-applet19:30
holsteinTuXes: again19:30
holsteinthere is a reason why its not installed in ubuntustudio19:30
holsteinTuXes: you might want to try using the network tool19:31
holsteinincluded19:31
holsteinive never tried to set up wireless with it in maverick19:31
holsteini heard it was fixed and working though19:31
holsteinstill, the gnome applet will work19:31
holsteinand you probably wont run into the performance issues19:31
holsteinand you can always remove it19:31
holsteinive got both19:32
holsteinon 2 different machines19:33
holsteini have a laptop with the nm-applet running19:33
holsteinand my desktop is ubuntustudio19:33
holsteinwithout it19:33
holsteinthe performance issue is less and less of an issue these days19:34
holsteinbut, still there19:34
holsteinfood.. BBL19:36
deadheadmb,19:38
deadheadhm19:39
deadheadnow lean to make gnmome net manager auto start19:51
holsteindeadhead: look under19:55
holsteinsystem -preferences - startup aplications19:56
holsteinapp*19:56
deadheadyea19:57
deadheadno doesnt work that easy20:00
deadheadi have googled this20:00
deadheadpeoplle all over hae troblw with this one20:01
holsteini usually20:01
holsteinIF i want wireless20:01
holsteini just install normal ubuntu20:02
holsteinand do20:02
holstein!vanilla20:02
ubottuTo install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation20:02
holsteinand add whatever apps i want20:02
holsteinfrom the ubuntustudio metapackages20:02
holsteinjust to make life easier :)20:02
holsteindeadhead: should be doable though20:02
holsteindeadhead: you dont have nm-applet?20:03
deadheadno20:12
deadheadi went to wircd20:12
deadheadit works20:13
deadheadNew Peak for this channel is 32 set on 17/10/201020:13
holsteincool20:13
deadheadopps20:13
deadheadsorry20:13
nitemovzI am in serious need of help with Jack20:13
holsteindeadhead: thats probably lighter anyways20:13
holsteinif it works for you :)20:13
holsteinhey nitemovz20:13
deadheadcool ty20:13
holsteinwhats the deal?20:13
holsteindeadhead: anytime20:13
nitemovzI have yet to receive my pre-amp and audio interface. I am running my mic through my computer soundcard, and the audio levels are really low.20:13
nitemovzHow can I fix this?20:13
holsteincheck out #opensourcemusicians when you get a chance :)20:14
holsteinnitemovz: your internal sound card20:14
nitemovzYes20:14
holsteinCOULD20:14
holsteinand probably does20:14
holsteinjust have low-gain20:14
holsteinif you want a mic there20:14
holsteinyou might need a preamp20:14
holsteinthats not really what the intended purpose is20:15
holsteinfor those devices20:15
nitemovzWell, I am trying to record with the internal sound card until my pre-amp and audio interface show up.20:15
holsteinthat being said20:15
holsteinyou can route a cheap mixer into it20:15
holsteinand get the gain up20:15
holsteinand get something acceptable20:15
holsteinnitemovz: you can try adding gain20:16
holsteinsomething like http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/download/index.html20:16
holsteinin the JACK route20:16
holsteinBUT, with that internal card20:16
holsteinanything you do on the 'inside' will probably just boost the noise as well20:16
holsteinnitemovz: you can look in20:17
holsteinalsamixer20:17
holsteinhit F520:17
holsteinOR F420:17
holsteinad see that all the capture levels are up20:17
holsteinand*20:17
nitemovzIs that within Ardour?20:18
holsteinopen up a terminal20:18
holsteinand type20:18
holsteinalsamixer20:18
holsteinand hit F420:18
holsteinthat'll be your 'capture' levels20:18
nitemovzAwesome!20:19
nitemovzThank you for that, and my levels are relatively low20:19
holsteinthat *might help :)20:19
holsteinwont hurt to try20:19
nitemovzOne of the plugins you suggested to download, which would be the best for adjusting my gain?20:20
holsteini would probably try the compressor20:20
holsteinand use 'gain makeup'20:20
holsteinyou can probably find a plugin though20:21
holsteinand run it with JACKrack20:21
holsteinsomething already installed20:21
holsteinthose are just really easy to use20:21
nitemovzI really appreciate the help holstein20:21
holsteinnitemovz: anytime :)20:21
nitemovzOkay, I am new to ardour as well.20:22
nitemovzI have only ever used the Logic Studio, Soundtrack Pro, Audition, and Soundbooth20:23
nitemovzHow do I set a track to record in Ardour?20:23
holsteinnitemovz: you know how to route in JACK?20:24
nitemovzI am completely new to Ubuntu Studio.20:24
holsteinunder 'connect20:24
holstein'20:24
holsteinwhen JACK is up and running properly20:24
holsteinyou click on 'connect'20:24
holsteinthat will have 2 columns20:25
holsteinunder the 'audio' tab20:25
holsteinthere are little + signs20:25
nitemovzI see ardour & system20:25
holsteinyou click those to expand the entries20:25
holsteinyour sound card ins will be there20:25
holsteinleft and right20:25
holsteinyou can use those like a 2 track recorder20:26
holsteinand route them however you want20:26
holsteinSAY20:26
holsteinyou have your mic pugged in to the left20:26
holsteinand a guitar plugged into the right20:26
holsteinyou go to ardour20:26
holsteinmake 2 mono tracks20:26
holsteincome back to JACk connect20:26
holsteinand route the ins on the left20:27
holsteinto the tracks on the right20:27
holsteinyou can route the ins on your card to the outputs on your card too20:27
holsteinif you want to monitor that way20:27
holsteinor, you can monitor with ardour20:27
holsteinIF20:27
holsteinyou wanted to add that compressor i linked20:28
holsteinBEFORE the track gets recorded20:28
holsteinont he way in20:28
holsteinyou would just route one of the ins20:28
holsteinleft or right20:28
holsteinto that compressor20:28
holsteinthen from the compressor go the the channel you want it recorded on20:28
holsteinthere are 2 arm buttons in ardour20:28
holsteinone on the channel20:28
holsteinthe little record button20:28
holsteinand the one up in the main panel20:29
holsteinyou 'arm' ardour to record with those20:29
holsteinafter you got your routing20:29
holsteinand hit play20:29
* persia notes that attempting to record a guitar without one of a DI box or an audio interface with an instrument in port is likely to damage hardware.20:29
holsteinyeah?20:29
holsteinimpedance should be that off20:29
holsteinwhats a couple db's between friends ;)20:30
holsteinits not ideal though20:30
holsteinthats for sure20:30
nitemovzOkay, so once the track and the main program are "armed" and the connections of my system card are connected to the track through Jack, I just have to hit the "play" button in Ardour?20:31
holsteinyup20:31
holsteinto start recording20:32
nitemovzOkay.20:32
holsteinyou should see the meter moving20:32
holsteinon the channel20:32
nitemovzHow do I route from the sound card input to the compressor, then to the track in Ardour?20:32
holsteinstart the compressor20:32
holsteinand it will show up20:32
holsteinin both columns20:32
holsteinin JACK connect20:32
holsteinunder the audio tab20:33
holsteinjust click and drag a line20:33
holsteinor select both and do ctrl-c20:33
nitemovzOkay, I have made my connections from my soundcard to Ardour, and now my mic is not working.20:34
nitemovzThe only sound I am getting is when I plug my mic in and take it out.20:34
holsteinin what way?20:34
holsteinyeah, thats could just be how low it is20:34
holsteinis there a battery in the mic?20:34
nitemovzNo.20:34
holsteinwhat kind of mic?20:35
nitemovzThe mic is one that plugs directly into it.20:35
holsteinhow are you pluggin it in?20:35
nitemovzI am not sure, I am in a friends startup studio.20:35
holsteindoes it have an 1/8 inch TRS jack on it?20:35
nitemovzWe are starting our own studio together, and we are working off really basic equipment until the newer stuff starts coming in.20:35
nitemovzI truly appreciate all the help!20:42
nitemovzYou have been wonderful!20:43
nitemovzI setup the compressor, and adjusted the gain, it works great now.20:43
nitemovzNo extra noise in the background that cannot be removed later20:43
holsteinnitemovz: :)20:48
nitemovzMy friend and I are on B&H Photo Video right now picking out some new gear20:49
nitemovzany recommendations?20:49
nitemovzAny particular audio interfaces I should look into?20:53
holsteindepends20:53
holsteinwhat are your needs?20:54
holsteininputs?20:54
holsteinmic pre's?20:54
holsteinyou should have balanced ins20:54
holsteini prefer firewire over USB personally20:54
holsteinor a PCI card20:54
nitemovzWell, we plan on doing a lot of vocals for movies, foley sounds, small bands, as well as full ensambles20:54
holsteini have a presonus firepod20:55
holstein8 preamps20:55
holsteinall balanced ins and outs20:55
holsteinlot of bang for the buck really20:55
holsteinif you dont need it20:55
holsteinjust get something with 2 nice preamps on it20:55
holsteincheck...20:56
holsteinhttp://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main20:56
persianitemovz, Didn't you just buy two interfaces a couple days ago?20:56
holsteinand20:56
holsteinhttp://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list20:56
holsteinfor the firewire devices20:56
holsteinand save your recipts ;)20:57
nitemovzI see M-Audio popping up everywhere20:57
holsteinreciepts*20:57
nitemovzAnd why keep the reciepts?20:57
holsteinmaudio is inexpensive20:57
nitemovzI mean, I do anyway.20:57
persiaFor vocals, consider good condenser mics (although this requires greater isolation than dynamics)20:57
holsteinusually decent quality20:57
holsteinthe 1010lt is a nice PCI card20:57
holsteinunder $20020:58
holsteinonly 2 preamps20:58
holstein2 balanced ins though20:58
holsteinwith 8 other ins20:58
holsteinworks well in linux though20:58
holsteinnitemovz: save the receipts for *if* is doesnt work in linux20:59
nitemovzWhat about something like this?20:59
nitemovzhttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/633327-REG/Focusrite_LIQUID_SAFFIRE_56_Liquid_Saffire_56.html20:59
holsteinif i had that money21:00
nitemovzWould something like that be beneficial for what I am trying? Also, things that say specifically Mac OS, are a definite don't buy?21:00
holsteinin linux21:00
holsteini woud probably get something from RME21:00
holsteinwould*21:00
holsteinnitemovz: nah, you just have to check those sites for compatibility21:00
holsteini got the firepod becasue the preamps are decent21:01
holsteinBUT21:01
holsteinthe ins are all balanced21:01
nitemovzThat 28x28 I just sent the link for is only $749.0021:01
holsteinif i want to upgrade later21:01
holsteinand add some expensive pres21:01
holsteini can21:01
holsteinnitemovz: you should google around to check compatibility21:02
persiaI like my saffire, but the 40 is probably plenty big for your needs.21:02
holsteindo you need 28 tracks?21:02
holsteinyou gotta have 28 preamps21:02
holsteindecent ones21:02
nitemovzI am eventually going to be recording whole ensembles of instruments because my friend and I are getting into recording for movies21:02
holsteinsay, you want to have some decent $400 dollar preamps21:02
holsteinper channel21:03
persiaIn practice, one isn't going to get more than 24 inputs off that: 8 built-in and 2 banks of 8 via ADAT21:04
nitemovzDoes M-Aduio usually work with Linux?21:06
holsteinsome of the devices do21:06
holsteinyou just have to check at ALSA21:06
holsteinand still21:06
nitemovzI found a better M-Audio interface for relatively inexpensive price, with 8 pre-amps.21:07
nitemovzThe only thing is, I didn't see it listed on Alsa21:07
holsteinthats another reason i went for the firepod21:08
holsteini figure at 400 bucks21:08
holsteinif i scrap it21:08
holsteinand go for an RME down the road21:08
holsteini wont lose much sleep over it21:08
holsteinive got my money21:08
holstein's worth out of it21:08
nitemovzAlsa says that the Fast Track Pro by M-Audio is compatible, but I am looking at the Fast Track Ultra 8R21:09
nitemovzDoes anyone have any experience with this unit?21:09
persiaI've seen people talk about how it's support is *very* new.21:09
nitemovzOkay, well, it is supported by Mac OS also, so if it doesn't work with my Ubuntu Studio setup, I can always put it on my Mac OS Setup as well21:10
* holstein runs JACK and ardour in snowleopard sometimes21:10
nitemovzOh those programs are available on Mac OS?21:11
persiaSome of them.  Ardour is.21:11
nitemovzAwesome! But if I end up using my Mac, I will continue to use Soundtrack Pro, or Logic Studio.21:13
nitemovzWhich I already have on them.21:13
nitemovzThank you all for your help.21:17
SoulKnifecan anyone here provide help with lmms?23:28
holsteinsudo aptitude remove lmms ;)23:29
* holstein kidding23:29
holsteinSoulKnife: whats the trouble?23:29
holsteinhave you tried #lmms ?23:30
SoulKnifeholstein, the pain thing is saying to "please open a pattern by double clicking on it"23:30
holsteinOH23:30
holsteinyeah, i dont use it23:30
holsteinim not sure about how painful the UI is23:30
SoulKnifelol23:30
SoulKnifeit's fine23:30
holsteinif its funcitoning though23:30
holsteinid hit up hte guys in #lmms23:31
SoulKnifety23:31
holsteinmight have to sit there for a bit23:31
holsteinid give them a day or so to respond23:31
holsteinSoulKnife: you can try #opensourcemusicians23:31
SoulKnifeholstein, ty again i'll check there23:33
SoulKnifei think it's a bug in it23:33
SoulKnifebut i need to know how to kill it and re-open it23:33
holsteinAH23:35
holsteinsudo killall lmms23:35
holsteinthat might do it23:35
holsteinyou can run top or htop23:35
holsteinand find it and kill it23:35
SoulKnifei'll try that23:35
SoulKnifeno good :(23:36
holsteinSoulKnife: ??23:37
holsteinif lmms is running23:37
holsteinsudo killall lmms should kill it23:37
holsteinare you using JACK?23:37
SoulKnifeholstein, i killed it an reopend it23:37
holsteinyou might need to restart JACK as well23:37
SoulKnifeholstein, and the problem still persists23:37
holsteinSoulKnife: 10.10 ?23:38
SoulKnifemy piano roll is complaining that there is no pattern23:38
SoulKnifeand yes 10.1023:38
holsteinand like guitarman is suggesting23:38
holsteinlmms has been buggy23:38
holsteini heard it was better23:38
holsteinbut, ive never felt like i could use it for anything23:38
* persia likes muse for sequencing23:38
* holstein hasnt used muse :/23:39
holsteinbut ive heard its awesome23:39
holsteinnobody complains about it being buggy AFAIK23:39
SoulKnifemuse?23:40
holsteinshould be in the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage23:41
holsteinp   muse                            - Qt-based midi/audio sequencer23:41
SoulKnifeit's actually in the repos for 10.10 i think23:41
persiaEverything in ubuntustudio-audio is in the repos :)23:47
SoulKnife:)23:47
persiamuse gets a little funny if you try to record more than 2 tracks at the same time, but is otherwise reasonable for both sequencing and recording.23:47
holsteinAH yeah23:48
holsteinyou can do it all in there23:48
holsteinno real automation though i heard23:48
persia(probably because most folk that want lots of multi- in their multi-track use ardour, so muse doesn't get this part tested heavily)23:48
holsteinthe only down-side to it23:48
SoulKnifegotcha23:48
holsteinfor doing everything in there23:48
persiaThere's limited automation, but no, it's not a pro-grade tool.  Great for lots of stuff though.23:48
holsteindoesnt have to have automation23:49
holsteinlots of folk dont need it anyways23:49
holsteinif your doing mostly MIDI23:49
holsteinand the occasionaly audio track here and there23:49
holsteinsounds like a winner23:49
holsteinOK... gotta go to work23:50
holsteinlaterx...23:50
persiaEven if you're doing mostly audio with a bit of MIDI, but are mostly doing it yourself, laying down new tracks over the old ones, rather than ensemble it works fine.23:50
SoulKnifemidi?23:51
SoulKnifei am trying to build tracks from ground up23:52

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