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[07:11] <apachelogger> :O
[07:11] <apachelogger> apparently tonight was merge night
[07:14] <apachelogger> valorie: congrats on membership :)
[07:50] <markey> wow, getting this in kubuntu would be awesome:
[07:50] <markey> http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/parallel
[07:50] <markey> basically, it replaces xargs, and does the same thing with multiple cores
[07:50] <markey> can't find it in the repos, though
[08:06] <persia> markey, Might package it up then, if you like.
[08:06] <markey> persia: that'd be great :)
[08:06] <persia> GNU stuff tends to be easy.  I suspect you can get away with a rules.tiny solution.
[08:13] <valorie> thanks, apachelogger!
[08:13] <valorie> I look forward to meeting y'
[08:13] <valorie> all
[08:13] <valorie> soon
[08:23] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 662005 likely is caused by bogus packaging
[08:23] <apachelogger> me@logos:~$ dpkg -L okteta | grep designer
[08:23] <apachelogger> /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/designer
[08:23] <apachelogger> /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/designer/oktetadesignerplugin.so
[08:23] <apachelogger> that is pretty wrong right there....
[09:28] <apachelogger> hm
[09:29] <apachelogger> IMHO kdm nees some major reinventing
[09:29] <apachelogger> *needs
[09:29] <valorie> IMO, kubuntu needs to clone apachelogger
[09:29] <valorie> :-)
[09:30] <valorie> you keep finding things that need total rebuilding or reinventing
[09:30] <apachelogger> going to happen at UDS :P
[09:30] <valorie> \0/
[09:30] <valorie> then you'll have time for Disneyland!
[09:32] <valorie> there is a movie about that, though
[09:32] <apachelogger> about cloning?
[09:32] <valorie> watch out when your clones start going crazy and taking over your life
[09:32] <valorie> indeed
[09:33]  * apachelogger wouldnt have a problem with that either
[09:33] <valorie> in fact, probably a disney movie, lol
[09:33] <apachelogger> leaves 100% time for disney
[09:33] <apachelogger> or sleeping
[09:33] <valorie> rofl
[09:35]  * apachelogger notes that actually pretty decent concerts seem to be the week of UDS 
[09:35] <apachelogger> next time I need to check that in more timely manner
[09:35] <apachelogger> on 23 there are the toasters
[09:35] <valorie> wow, like who is playing?
[09:36] <apachelogger> mgmt on monday
[09:36] <apachelogger> phoenis on tuesday
[09:36] <apachelogger> massive attack on wednesday
[09:36] <apachelogger> bad religion on saturday
[09:36] <valorie> I would like to see mgmt
[09:37] <valorie> I've seen bad religion, and they are awesome in concert
[09:37] <apachelogger> http://www.thesocial.org/details/?tfly_event_id=12745
[09:37] <valorie> that video link to mgmt you posted earlier is still freaking me out
[09:37] <Sput> apachelogger: isn't kdm in the process of being plasmafied?
[09:38] <apachelogger> Sput: yes, though it needs reinventing under the hood too
[09:38] <Sput> you could make it all pink and fluffy inside!
[09:38] <apachelogger> though I suppose plasmafication makes most of the user visible wrongness disappear
[09:38] <apachelogger> if it should ever land in trunk
[09:38] <apachelogger> Sput: yus, reusing the plasma theme :D
[09:38] <apachelogger> less effort == splendid
[09:39]  * apachelogger notes that ticketmaster.com is quite the bad on usability
[09:39] <valorie> massive attack - eh
[09:39] <apachelogger> valorie: $40 for mgmt it seems
[09:39]  * valorie listens to the toasters on last.fm
[09:39] <valorie> that isn't bad
[09:40] <valorie> although small clubs are more to my liking
[09:41] <valorie> that does involve seeing some bands that are less than cool
[09:41] <valorie> but I've found some awesome ones as well
[09:41] <apachelogger> wikitravel says there is generally good night time entertainment in orlando... even illegal one in the sorta red light district ...
[09:41] <valorie> like Murder by Death
[09:41] <valorie> whom I love
[09:44] <valorie> last.fm's recommendations are pretty darn good!
[09:48] <apachelogger> hm
[09:48] <apachelogger> pam face authentication's qt gui needs 
[09:48] <apachelogger> ehm
[09:48] <apachelogger> well
[09:48] <apachelogger> cuteness
[09:48] <apachelogger> in fact I wonder if however made it read the documentation for the widgets do not have layouts assigned to them messing up line wrapping
[09:48] <apachelogger> -.-
[09:50] <Sput> valorie: always a question of the right seed :) plus last.fm sometimes has bad days where it keeps giving me crappy songs
[09:51] <valorie> sure, but I was looking at suggested shows in my area
[09:51] <valorie> helps that Seattle has lots of little clubs
[09:51] <valorie> and the remains of a music scene
[09:52] <Sput> ah, I thought you meant the song suggestions
[09:52] <valorie> I do scrobble to last.fm so it knows what I like
[09:52] <Sput> yeah, I've been scrobbling for years and years
[09:53] <Sput> scrobbled 56707 songs :)
[09:54] <valorie> 44K, behind you
[09:54] <Sput> \o/
[09:54] <valorie> but I do listen to the radio, and that doesn't scrobble
[09:54] <valorie> lol
[09:54] <valorie> sput wins!
[09:54] <Sput> yes I listen to the radio as well, and it scrobbles!
[09:54] <Sput> (mainly because I use amarok as last.fm player)
[09:55] <valorie> right, but i'm listening to NPR
[09:55] <valorie> lol
[09:55] <Sput> NPR?
[09:55] <valorie> National Public Radio
[09:55] <valorie> npr.org
[09:55] <Sput> ah
[09:55] <Sput> I listen to last.fm radio :)
[09:55] <valorie> they are actually good for music
[09:56] <valorie> but mostly news and analysis
[10:10] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: ping
[10:13] <valorie> DarkwingDuck: pong
[10:13] <valorie> I hear you are a Doc person too
[10:13] <valorie> :-)
[10:13] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: Dave Wonderly. Pleased to meet you
[10:13] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[10:13] <valorie> ah!
[10:14] <DarkwingDuck> Aye
[10:14] <valorie> indeed, and soon we'll get to meet in person
[10:14] <valorie> :-)
[10:14] <DarkwingDuck> That we will. We have some work to do
[10:14] <valorie> I was looking through some of the site info
[10:14] <valorie> and it looks..... OLD
[10:15] <valorie> but I assume this means documentation at the app level, not just the site(s)
[10:15] <DarkwingDuck> at doc.kde.org?
[10:15] <DarkwingDuck> Aye
[10:16] <DarkwingDuck> in the help center
[10:16] <DarkwingDuck> help:/kubuntu/index/
[10:17] <valorie> do we have different people working on the site, or is it all one team effort?
[10:17] <DarkwingDuck> most of it wasn't updated to reflect 4.5
[10:17] <DarkwingDuck> seperated
[10:17] <DarkwingDuck> I work with system docs.
[10:17] <DarkwingDuck> Hows your XML and DocBook?
[10:18] <valorie> I've not really used it
[10:18] <valorie> but I've done markup
[10:18] <valorie> so I'm sure I can learn what's necessary
[10:18] <valorie> I'm a writer, that's my strength however
[10:18] <DarkwingDuck> *nods* awesome. its always a start. Hows your english editing?
[10:19] <valorie> good to very good
[10:19] <DarkwingDuck> timezone?
[10:19] <valorie> so, you know that userbase is becoming a landing place for docs
[10:20] <valorie> right?
[10:20] <valorie> Pacific time
[10:20] <valorie> I live south of Seattle, Washington USA
[10:20] <valorie> you?
[10:20] <DarkwingDuck> San Diego
[10:20] <valorie> for instance, our Amarok Handbook is being created on Userbase
[10:21] <valorie> then being translated, and finally being put into Docbook
[10:21] <valorie> I believe they want to become the preferred work method
[10:21] <DarkwingDuck> hmmm.
[10:22] <valorie> in that way, docs are available on the web and in the apps
[10:22] <valorie> identically
[10:22] <valorie> mostly
[10:22] <DarkwingDuck> *nods*
[10:22] <valorie> that doesn't necessarily help with Kubuntu-specific stuff
[10:23] <valorie> but how much of that do we have?
[10:23] <DarkwingDuck> :) We dont go too far into apps
[10:23] <DarkwingDuck> mostly sys docs
[10:23] <valorie> ok, so KDE does the apps
[10:23] <DarkwingDuck> yes
[10:23] <valorie> and we (on the sites) focus on use
[10:23] <DarkwingDuck> and within the khelpcenter
[10:24] <valorie> k, I'm just trying to scout around and figure out how everything is organized
[10:24] <valorie> khelpcenter is within the apps, correct?
[10:25] <DarkwingDuck> Im slowly organizing everything
[10:25] <DarkwingDuck> Alt F2 > help
[10:25] <DarkwingDuck> Everything under Kubuntu Documentation
[10:25] <DarkwingDuck> we hold everything in a BZR branch
[10:26] <DarkwingDuck> lp:kubuntu-docs
[10:26] <valorie> I understand I'm going to have to learn some BZR
[10:26] <valorie> ::sigh::
[10:26] <valorie> lol
[10:26] <DarkwingDuck> a bit :)
[10:26] <valorie> hoping my small git experience helps, instead of confuses
[10:27] <DarkwingDuck> i was svn n picked up bzr in an hour
[10:27] <DarkwingDuck> myself, jjesse and nixternal have commit access
[10:28] <apachelogger> +&lt;/style&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body style=&quot; font-family:'Ubuntu'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;&quot;&gt;
[10:28] <apachelogger> +&lt;p style=&quot; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot; font-family:'Sans Serif';&quot;&gt;Really in need of a UI wizard! =P&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</string>
[10:28] <apachelogger> srsly
[10:28]  * DarkwingDuck thwaps apachelogger
[10:28] <apachelogger> why does the ubuntu font come after you and eat your puppies
[10:28] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[10:28]  * apachelogger is pissed and switches to bad music
[10:28] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: you at uds?
[10:28] <DarkwingDuck> will you rather
[10:29] <apachelogger> I shall annoy everyone at uds so hard that they will pay me to join opensuse, for opensuse does not have a stupid font that creeps up in your ui files
[10:29] <valorie> that is some horrible html "styling" apachelogger
[10:29] <apachelogger> how is ubuntu a font family anyway
[10:29] <apachelogger> ...
[10:30] <apachelogger> valorie: tell that to Qt
[10:30] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: nixternal stepped down, jjesse will be limited in helping he said so i kinda inharited everything... glad i have more help
[10:30] <apachelogger> why people use qt designer is a mystery to me
[10:30] <valorie> sec
[10:30] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: dont hold back... tell us what you really think
[10:30] <apachelogger> especially if they evidently have no idea of what is going on under the hood - hence the missing layouts in the pam-face-authentication stuff
[10:30]  * apachelogger takes his keyboard and throws it after uninformed programmers
[10:31] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[10:32] <DarkwingDuck> And, i have class in the morning. goodnight. valorie, looking forward to working with you.
[10:32] <apachelogger> nini DarkwingDuck
[10:32] <apachelogger> oh
[10:32] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: you will be at uds?
[10:32] <apachelogger> that reminds me, I have algorithms magic in like 30 minutes
[10:32] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[10:32] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: yes
[10:32] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: see you there
[10:33] <valorie> nixternal stepped down?
[10:33] <valorie> sad
[10:33] <DarkwingDuck> aye, he taught me most of what i know
[10:34] <valorie> but he'll be around enough to ask questions of?
[10:34] <valorie> I'm not afraid to ask and appear stupid
[10:34] <valorie> since sometimes I am
[10:34] <valorie> lol
[10:34] <DarkwingDuck> I have his number. but ive been doing a couple years now :)
[10:35] <valorie> OK, well at UDS, I guess we will have a chance to do a review of what needs doing
[10:35] <valorie> prioritize, etc.
[10:35] <valorie> seems like maybe we need to recruit a few more people?
[10:35] <DarkwingDuck> thats part of the plan
[10:37] <apachelogger> brrr
[10:37]  * apachelogger is looking forward to florida temperatures
[10:38] <apachelogger> flipping cold here
[10:39] <valorie> getting cold here too
[10:39] <valorie> was sunny, but brrrr
[10:41] <valorie> well folks, I'm running out of steam
[10:41] <valorie> niters
[11:09] <Mamarok> pavucontrol lacks icons when installed in Kubuntu. Does that mean I have to install Gnome icons as well?
[11:17] <davmor2> Mamarok: Some items won't show up until a reboot has been performed,  Failing that try running it from the CLI or from Alt-F2 to see if it has been install correctly
[11:20] <debfx> I wonder why qtcreator fails to build on arm with: libqtwebkit-dev : Depends: libqtwebkit4 (= 2.0.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:24] <Mamarok> a reboot? You are kidding, this is linux after all
[11:24] <Mamarok> I did start it from krunner
[11:31] <al> debfx: maybe because qt4-dev-tools and libqtwebkit-dev depend on conflicting versions of libqtwebkit4?
[11:32] <al> (just guessing)
[11:32] <debfx> al: no, qt4-dev-tools : Depends: libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.0~week31)
[12:29] <apachelogger> meh
[12:29] <apachelogger> that pam-face-authentication gui is in need of design
[12:30] <apachelogger> ...and I dont mean the artworky design
[12:31] <apachelogger> also their wizard is made out of annoyance
[12:47] <jussi> apachelogger: let me know when you are done..
[12:47] <jussi> apachelogger: oh and btw, where is my memenu!! ? :F
[12:47] <apachelogger> youmenu
[12:47] <apachelogger> oh
[12:47] <apachelogger> they are discussion wemenu I heared ^^
[12:48] <apachelogger> that is like the nearby-foo plasmoid just more integrated
[12:48] <apachelogger> and called menu
[12:49] <jussi> hehe
[12:50] <jussi> ok, lets hope its cool
[12:54] <apachelogger> jussi: certainly not as cool as leaning over to my cam to get apt-get kicking ^^
[12:58] <jussi> apachelogger: true
[13:01]  * apachelogger is a terrible bug reporter
[13:49] <CIA-116> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187144 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Speed up the construction of the main Worker class by one blank QVariantMap construction. We always initialize it before use, so we don't need to construct it in the class initializer.
[14:39] <apachelogger> inkscape is broken \o/
[14:39] <apachelogger> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gtk::IconThemeError'
[14:39] <apachelogger> theme errors are certainly most fatal
[15:33] <ximion_> apachelogger: see bug #651678 - very annoying
[17:23] <apachelogger> http://www.moby.com/journal/2010-10-17/heres-where-i-spend-my-days-it-looks-nas.html
[17:23] <apachelogger> ehehehe
[17:24] <shadeslayer> kewl site btw
[17:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im not getting a new phone ... infact .. i dont have a phone now :'(
[17:25] <shadeslayer> time to run to knut i suppose :P
[17:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: coming to the pizza+movie thing?
[17:27] <apachelogger> what pizza+movie thing?
[17:27] <debfx> knut the polar bear?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/242/detail/
[17:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also about phones, thiago surely could get some n900 :P
[17:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: we should poke him hard then :P
[17:28] <apachelogger> ohm
[17:28] <apachelogger> ehm
[17:28] <apachelogger> ahm
[17:28] <apachelogger> xls == excel, no?
[17:28] <shadeslayer> yus
[17:28] <shadeslayer> also ... pdf .. 
[17:29] <apachelogger> well, nothing wrong with pdf
[17:29] <apachelogger> but xls
[17:29] <apachelogger> ...
[17:29] <shadeslayer> fdf!!!
[17:29] <shadeslayer> debfx: knut.. the awesome guy who gives away N900's :P
[17:29]  * apachelogger should drop one of those "please do not send me office files" replies just of the lolz of it
[17:29] <shadeslayer> heh...
[17:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: he is also awesome for other reasons :P
[17:30] <apachelogger> like dancing the electonic boogie
[17:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes, but giving away N900's tops the list
[17:30] <apachelogger> nah, electro boogie does :P
[17:30] <shadeslayer> never seen him dance :)
[17:30] <apachelogger> ask the youtubez
[17:31] <shadeslayer> too many polar bear results :P
[17:31] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[17:31] <shadeslayer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzXtRtH8OBI
[17:32] <shadeslayer> i think i saw that on CNN sometime ago
[17:32] <debfx> how can I convince bzr-buildpackage to build my uncommitted package? :(
[17:33] <shadeslayer> debfx: erm.. you can commit and then uncommit if theres a issue, as long as you dont bzr push
[17:33] <apachelogger> by impl0ment0ring the true idea of bzr driven development
[17:33] <apachelogger> branch branch branch
[17:34] <debfx> shadeslayer: I could but I don't want to
[17:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok.. i agree, electronic boogie tops the list
[17:34] <apachelogger> *nod*
[17:34] <apachelogger> so
[17:34] <apachelogger> about the pizza movie and free love thing
[17:34] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:35] <apachelogger> from a community building POV we should attend, of course I would rather have the whole kubuntu crew attend, so we probably should consider this at large
[17:35] <apachelogger> also, I think monday is the day valorie and I are going to the MGMT gig :P
[17:35] <shadeslayer> MGMT ?
[17:35] <apachelogger> youtubez
[17:35] <shadeslayer> ooohh rock
[17:36] <apachelogger> youtubez is the new lord google
[17:36] <apachelogger> disturbing video take 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI&ob=av2n ^^
[17:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.  << lulz
[17:37] <apachelogger> haha
[17:37] <apachelogger> clearly too disturbing for india
[17:37]  * apachelogger wished the same for austria
[17:37] <apachelogger> it is is sorta like amnesia - the dark decent as a music video
[17:37] <apachelogger> that said
[17:37] <apachelogger> I still did not finish amnesia
[17:38]  * apachelogger can only play like 30 minutes at a time before running danger of passing out
[17:39] <shadeslayer> comments on bug 565376 welcome
[17:39] <apachelogger> desktopcouch
[17:39] <apachelogger> surely that thing still does not support kwallet :P
[17:39] <shadeslayer> yes .. 
[17:39] <shadeslayer> dont think so :P
[17:39] <apachelogger> also I am not entirely sure I patched it to 
[17:39] <sheytan_> Quintasan hey dude. What about the PN logo. Do you want it still? :D
[17:40]  * apachelogger points sheytan_ towards a presentation template :P
[17:40] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: id say yes :)
[17:40] <apachelogger> that said
[17:40] <apachelogger> what do you people think about porting the you bun too one to kubuntu blue&logo?
[17:40]  * sheytan_ is proud to announce that the Join Us page is now complete redesigned and waits for development :D
[17:41] <sheytan_> apachelogger is there a how to to create that template?
[17:41] <sheytan_> i mean, how do i put stuff to one file
[17:41] <apachelogger> via the master slide
[17:41] <shadeslayer> hmm... i should one of my pending assignments ... 
[17:41] <apachelogger> sheytan_: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/talks/Ubuntu%20in%2050%20minutes.odp if you can make me such a background I can put together the template
[17:42]  * apachelogger is not entirely sure if the style fits kubuntu though....
[17:45] <apachelogger> oggy oggy oggy!
[17:46] <shadeslayer> hmm... for some reason i dont have pinentry update
[17:46] <shadeslayer> and im on the main mirror
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Published 18 hours ago ... -.-
[17:46] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[17:47] <apachelogger> W: pam-face-authentication: non-standard-dir-in-usr usr/kde/
[17:47] <apachelogger> W: pam-face-authentication: file-in-unusual-dir usr/kde/4/bin/xwindowFaceAuth
[17:47] <apachelogger> E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade.xml
[17:47] <apachelogger> E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade_eye.xml
[17:47] <apachelogger> E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade_eye_tree_eyeglasses.xml
[17:47] <apachelogger> E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade_nose.xml
[17:47] <apachelogger> at times I wonder
[17:47] <apachelogger> I REALLY DO
[17:47] <apachelogger> do developers actually think before doing thing
[17:47] <apachelogger> s
[17:49] <nixternal> apachelogger: haha, knut is god!
[17:49] <apachelogger> fullack
[17:56] <sheytan_> apachelogger http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6811/basej.jpg
[17:58] <apachelogger> sheytan: png would be better?
[17:59] <sheytan> apachelogger this is only a demo :D
[17:59] <sheytan> sure, just a sec :D
[17:59] <apachelogger> oh
[17:59] <apachelogger> me likes the demo
[18:00] <apachelogger> sheytan: need a different dimension too
[18:01] <apachelogger> something like 11 inch to 8 inch
[18:02] <sheytan> apachelogger give me few minutes, todo list is endless :D
[18:02] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What release are you running?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: maverick!
[18:03] <apachelogger> 11.02" by 8.27"
[18:03] <ScottK> Not published then.
[18:03] <ScottK> It needs review by the SRU team.
[18:03] <apachelogger> sheytan: ^
[18:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If you can't wait, it's in my PPA.
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ScottK: nah.. i have a local deb here ... but what i dont understand is... if its published, is it stuck in SRU queue?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> or rather the upload queue
[18:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Not stuck.  Waiting for review.
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ohk
[18:04] <ScottK> A member of ubuntu-sru reviews the diff for every SRU before approving it.
[18:07] <shadeslayer> i thought you just upload it in proposed and your done :)
[18:07] <sheytan> apachelogger 300ppi?
[18:08] <apachelogger> what are ppi?
[18:08] <sheytan> apachelogger pixels per inch ;)
[18:09]  * apachelogger only knows dpi
[18:09] <apachelogger> and there I would go for 600+
[18:09] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot71.png
[18:10] <sheytan> apachelogger dpi is the same as ppi i thin k
[18:11] <sheytan> apachelogger: from wiki " Some digital file formats record a DPI value, or more commonly a PPI (pixels per inch) value, which is to be used when printing the image"
[18:12]  * apachelogger only knows DPI
[18:12] <apachelogger> so much for common :P
[18:12] <apachelogger> surely some artist wrote that article
[18:12] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You're done, but the SRU team is not.
[18:12] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:13] <apachelogger> sheytan: btw, I doubt the subtle surface of the header will be visible on most projectors
[18:13] <sheytan> apachelogger yeah, that's why i put there a light gradient ;)
[18:14] <apachelogger> still not sure it would be noticable
[18:14] <apachelogger> most projectors out there are utter crap
[18:14] <sheytan> apachelogger, don't worry :D
[18:19]  * apachelogger is too old to not worry :P
[18:20] <apachelogger> with regards to bug 655646 I am wondering if the indicator plugin will turn on the tray icon if no indicator is around...
[18:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do we think we could just copy moby's site and use it for kubuntu? ^^
[18:26] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure you have to turn it back on yourself.
[18:26] <ScottK> It's not a bug in any case.
[18:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is it GPLv* licensed? :P
[18:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: IMHO it is an upgrade issue
[18:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah you can turn it on
[18:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: What's the upgrade issue?
[18:27] <apachelogger> upon upgrade we should make sure the indicator is active, and if not add it
[18:27] <apachelogger> ScottK: that now kopete will close on close whereas before it did not and with indicator it does not either
[18:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does dh have a --with qt option?
[18:27] <ScottK> If we're going to take the systray icon away, I agree.
[18:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, why?
[18:28] <apachelogger> what for?
[18:28] <shadeslayer> just wondering
[18:28] <apachelogger> dh will figure out the build system itself
[18:28] <shadeslayer> and what if the pro file is in src/
[18:28] <apachelogger> the only reason we have with kde is because debian likes to do fancy stuff :P
[18:28] <shadeslayer> and not in top level of source
[18:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: just override auto_dh_configure
[18:28] <apachelogger> or what the target is called
[18:28] <apachelogger> man dh
[18:28] <apachelogger> invoke qmake manually
[18:28] <shadeslayer> right it wont pick that itself right?
[18:29] <apachelogger> also I think you can pass arguments directly to dh
[18:29] <apachelogger> though I think for qmake you need to cd into the dir to make it work, so...
[18:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dunno, maybe, I wouldnt count on it
[18:30] <ScottK> dpkg-buildpackage -S for boost finishes on my laptop or heat death of the univerise: Which comes first?
[18:30] <shadeslayer> ScottK: id say heat death
[18:30] <shadeslayer> unless you cool it somehow
[18:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so no to pizza+movie thing?
[18:30] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Heat death of the Universe is something different.
[18:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: depends on a) whether valorie is getting MGMT tickets and b) whether the rest of the crew is interested
[18:31] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ask rest of the crew then?
[18:32] <apachelogger> aye
[18:32] <sheytan> apachelogger http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3365/base2x.jpg
[18:33] <shadeslayer> what are those ugly splotches
[18:34] <shadeslayer> looks like ubuntu's just-before-release-wallpaper-fiasco
[18:35] <sheytan> shadeslayer these are extra for those who don't like them :D
[18:35] <sheytan> i knew someone will not :D
[18:35] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot72.png
[18:35] <neversfelde> sheytan: hi, you are working on our website?
[18:36] <apachelogger> sheytan: now I wonder if the background gear would be visible on bad projectors :)
[18:36] <sheytan> neversfelde yep, but the main dev is some kind of busy  and thhe development stops now. but we already have some work done :)
[18:36] <shadeslayer> ok cya guys
[18:36] <sheytan> apachelogger it should, but if not, they'll think there's nothing there :D
[18:36] <apachelogger> which is also bad :P
[18:37] <apachelogger> hence I think the canonical design team added the dots
[18:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you were talking about data loss in rekonq yesterday, what happened?
[18:37] <sheytan> apachelogger well, not that bad :D
[18:37] <neversfelde> sheytan: all links for local language support are broken
[18:37] <apachelogger> though IMHO the dots disturb
[18:37] <neversfelde> http://www.kubuntu.org/community
[18:37] <apachelogger> sheytan: well, not awesome either ;)
[18:37] <shadeslayer> splotches! theyre called splotches! :>
[18:37] <neversfelde> sheytan: I cannot report a bug, because I have no access to launchpad
[18:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it did the crashy
[18:37] <shadeslayer> did it not ask to restore stuff?
[18:37] <sheytan> neversfelde i didn't work on the current page. I'm working on a whole new project from top to bottom :)
[18:38] <neversfelde> sheytan: ah ok
[18:38] <neversfelde> we will change the default design again?
[18:38] <sheytan> apachelogger so, should i make he logo more visable/ :D
[18:38] <shadeslayer> i have such a full time table :(
[18:38] <sheytan> neversfelde i think yes
[18:38] <apachelogger> sheytan: no
[18:38] <apachelogger> sheytan: come up with something else :P
[18:38] <apachelogger> dots for example :P
[18:38] <neversfelde> we probably should not do this so often :)
[18:39] <sheytan> apachelogger dots sucks :D
[18:39] <apachelogger> fullack
[18:39]  * apachelogger slaps apachelogger for dotting around
[18:39] <apachelogger> ......
[18:39] <apachelogger> there
[18:39] <apachelogger> muhahaha
[18:39] <apachelogger> :P
[18:39] <sheytan> neversfelde this one isn't that cool, is it? :P Our new will have manuals, videos, lots of information and cool screenshots. See my blog for some shots ;)
[18:39] <neversfelde> sheytan: so I have to talk to ofirk about these links?
[18:39] <sheytan> yes
[18:40] <shadeslayer> bye
[18:40] <neversfelde> sheytan: k, I like our page, but if it is better, I am looking forward :)
[18:40] <apachelogger> sheytan: seriously though, I think we need something... how about an alternative version without the background gear and instead a bottom border thingy (like with the header)
[18:40] <apachelogger> should one deem it necessary one can easily switch and fancy head and bottom certainly make for a good visual balance too
[18:40] <sheytan> apachelogger lets try
[18:41] <sheytan> neversfelde http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2010/08/nowosci-z-poligonu-strona-domowa.html  http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2010/09/wiesci-z-prac-nad-strona-kubuntu.html
[18:42]  * apachelogger thinks sheytan really should blog in the english :P
[18:42] <apachelogger> ...I sort of feel forced to learn polish...
[18:43]  * sheytan thinks about new blog in english but learning polish isn't that hard :D Me knows german :D
[18:43] <apachelogger> well, I do not blog in german either, do I :P
[18:43] <apachelogger> the occasional german or french microblog post aside ;)
[18:44] <sheytan> apachelogger i meant when i can learn german you can learn polish :D
[18:44] <apachelogger> sure, but just to read a blog... seems a bit of a strange rationale :P
[18:45] <sheytan> apachelogger you're not limited to the blog :D
[18:46] <apachelogger> right, I could do a talk in front of the UN in polish :D
[18:46] <neversfelde> sheytan: not enough free traffic to view the internet :)
[18:46] <apachelogger> not sure they would let me though
[18:47] <sheytan> apachelogger what's UN? :D
[18:48] <apachelogger> united nations
[18:49] <apachelogger> oh noes
[18:49] <apachelogger> bug 662824
[18:49] <apachelogger> the amarok is the broken
[18:49] <sheytan> doesn't happen to me ;D
[18:49] <sheytan> i mean Works For Me (TM) :D
[18:50] <apachelogger> I dont use it(tm)
[18:50] <apachelogger> banshee ftw o/ o/ o/
[18:50] <sheytan> aahahah :D
[18:50] <sheytan> win :D
[18:50] <sheytan> but well, me doesn't like gtk stuff in a qt environment ;D
[18:50] <sheytan> apachelogger http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7671/base2t.jpg
[18:51] <apachelogger> the best thing about banshee is that it is written in the mo-no, which in turn is to-slo
[18:51] <apachelogger> sheytan: can you please remove the your name here?
[18:51] <apachelogger> sheytan: makes it hard to demo test it ^^
[18:51] <sheytan> apachelogger demo :D, now let me send you png
[18:52]  * sheytan has new idea :D
[18:52] <apachelogger> oh noes
[18:52] <apachelogger> ...those creative people...
[18:52] <neversfelde> rofl
[18:52]  * apachelogger skansk with neversfelde meanwhile since Nightrose is MIA
[18:53] <apachelogger> also that typo is free as in free beer
[18:53] <apachelogger> feel free to keep it
[18:54]  * neversfelde hides
[18:54] <neversfelde> and is in panic
[18:54] <sheytan> apachelogger 4Gigs of ram isn't enough for me when i'm gimping ;D
[18:55] <apachelogger> hm
[18:55] <apachelogger> gimping
[18:55] <apachelogger> that sounds dirty
[18:55]  * apachelogger better leaves
[18:56] <shadeslayer> ok ... im back
[18:56] <shadeslayer> no paper to write my assignment on -.-
[18:56] <sheytan> shadeslayer had bad dreams that he didn't done some stuff :D
[18:56] <shadeslayer> sheytan: heh... the last thing i care about are these assignments :P
[18:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lets make a browser for meego
[18:57] <shadeslayer> webkity browser
[18:57]  * apachelogger has a fear of falling off chairs, hence he preferrs sitting on benches
[18:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I am certain there already is one :P
[18:57] <shadeslayer> :O
[18:57] <shadeslayer> where!
[18:57] <apachelogger> also I am now phonon co-maintainer as per order of markey
[18:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: part of standard distribution?
[18:58] <apachelogger> almost certainly nokia will not deploy an intartubes enabled device without browser, so there is bound to be one, or at least be one in production
[18:58] <markey> apachelogger is now a lieutenant of Phonon :)
[19:02] <apachelogger> uhh, that is a fancy title \o/
[19:02] <apachelogger> good news everyone
[19:02] <apachelogger> I am going out to get wasted :P
[19:02] <sheytan> apachelogger http://www.sendspace.com/file/fd5zdt
[19:02] <apachelogger> one must celebrate a promotion properly
[19:03] <neversfelde> apachelogger: ok, so why does my laptop stop playing sound,  when I am not moving the cursor :)
[19:03] <apachelogger> likely pulseaudio/audio driver problem
[19:04] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I removed pulseaudio, same problem, but I did a lot of testing with this system, probably it is time to reinstall it
[19:04] <neversfelde> so, at least I would do so, if I every will be connected to the internet again
[19:06]  * sheytan wonders if the upgrade to 11.04 will be the same smooth as to 10.10 :D
[19:07]  * apachelogger shall make sure that it is not
[19:07] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot73.png
[19:08] <apachelogger> sheytan: I think that looks pretty decent
[19:08] <apachelogger> sheytan: could you also send me a png of the backgrounded version?
[19:08] <ScottK> apachelogger: You going out to get wasted isn't news.  News is when something unusual happens.
[19:08] <apachelogger> neversfelde: well, it still can be a problem with the alsa driver
[19:09] <sheytan> apachelogger what backgrounded you mean, with the logo but without footer?
[19:09] <apachelogger> aye
[19:09] <sheytan> sure
[19:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: no rush though
[19:09]  * apachelogger is leaving now
[19:10] <sheytan> apachelogger it's few clicks away ;)
[19:10] <apachelogger> ScottK: I see :P
[19:10] <neversfelde> apachelogger: sure, it works with Lucid kernel, but I did not have enough time to have a closer look
[19:24] <sheytan> apachelogger http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqoir8
[19:28] <shadeslayer> nooo
[19:28] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:28] <shadeslayer> i cant remove qtwebkit :|
[19:28] <shadeslayer> wth
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we must supply nightly webkit packages as well.. or is that covered under nightly qt?
[19:31] <sheytan> shadeslayer is tehre a plan to build kde trunk in next few days for neon?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> its already built
[19:31] <shadeslayer> we just need to fiddle out the details and some minor packaging details
[19:32] <shadeslayer> all the major stuff is done anyways
[19:32] <Lex79> debfx: are you planning to do kdebase and edu merges?
[19:32] <sheytan> shadeslayer me wish the ppa :D
[19:32] <shadeslayer> sheytan: launchpad.net/~neon
[19:32] <shadeslayer> see the ppa  ;)
[19:32] <debfx> Lex79: yes, i'll push kdebase in a minute
[19:32] <Lex79> ok thanks
[19:35] <shadeslayer> no qtwebkit nightly builds
[19:35] <shadeslayer> :|
[19:37] <shadeslayer> atleast they have a code import on lp \o/
[19:39] <shadeslayer> Lex79: is webkit on in qt4-X11 or as a seprate package?
[19:41] <Lex79> shadeslayer: in a separate package, qtwebkit-source package
[19:41] <shadeslayer> ah i was looking in the right place then
[19:42] <shadeslayer> ah that package is a transitional package
[19:42] <shadeslayer> libqt4-webkit: transitional package for Qt 4 WebKit module 
[19:43] <Lex79> yeah
[19:45] <shadeslayer> why is this :         rm -f imports/QtWebKit/libqmlwebkitplugin.so JavaScriptCore/release/libjscore.a
[19:45] <shadeslayer> thats a clean rule
[19:45] <shadeslayer> hmm... suppose it cant hurt for a nightly package .... 
[19:51] <shadeslayer> i think i might have to kill lp
[19:52] <ScottK> Get in line.
[19:53] <shadeslayer> theres a line? i thought everyone is so bloodthirsty we just stab it all together
[19:53] <ScottK> It's more fun to draw it out.
[19:54] <shadeslayer> ah 
[19:54] <al> also it's been open sourced, so patches welco&"#!§NO CARRIER
[19:54] <shadeslayer> al: theres no patch for lp timing out :P
[19:54] <al> i'm afraid if you'd track it down there even might be ;)
[19:55] <ScottK> al: It's open source, but not really free software IMO.
[19:55] <Riddell> other way around
[19:56] <ScottK> I don't consider AGPL as truly free since it forces distribution.
[19:57] <al> regardless of license and policy - nothing with that installation procedure should ever qualify as "free"
[19:57] <ScottK> So I'm only "free" to modify and use code after I set up an distribution mechanism for it.
[19:57] <ScottK> That too.
[19:58] <ScottK> I understand it's getting easier.
[19:58] <al> you can keep your dns zone now? :>
[19:59] <al> ok, i even get the part with the internal host names…
[19:59] <ScottK> No idea.  I just heard that.
[20:00] <ScottK> Anyone packaging kdepim 4.4.7 when it gets rolled later this week?
[20:03] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ill do it probably
[20:03] <shadeslayer> as well as kdevelop .. but that has to wait till tomorrow
[20:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: OK.  Good.  I wanted t make sure someone was queued up to look at it.
[20:03] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:04] <shadeslayer> hmmm... i caught build queue at a good moment.. its empty right noq
[20:04] <shadeslayer> we need more builders, amd should sponsor some :P
[20:04] <shadeslayer> or intel
[20:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok so i poked around, meego only has chromium and fenneck
[20:06] <shadeslayer> fennec
[20:06] <shadeslayer> uhhh
[20:07] <shadeslayer> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/builders/samarium
[20:07] <shadeslayer> why does it say ~kubuntu-members/qtwebkit/trunk ..
[20:07] <shadeslayer> .... possibly because webkit is under ~kubuntu-members
[20:46] <nixternal> I expect a TODO list in my inbox, msg'd to me, or whatever for nutty :p
[20:52] <shadeslayer> nixternal: natty :P
[20:52] <shadeslayer> nutty narwhal ... lol
[20:52]  * shadeslayer puts World Domination at top of TODO
[20:54] <shadeslayer> ->sleep
[21:24] <rbelem> I got the visa! \o/
[21:25] <jussi> congrats rbelem!!
[21:25] <rbelem> :-D
[21:26] <rbelem> that was hard!
[21:26] <jussi> peoples, whoever is responsible for this netbook edition....
[21:26] <jussi> should be congratulated! very useable and very very good!!
[21:35] <apachelogger> hullos
[21:36] <jussi> hiya apachelogger!!
[21:36]  * apachelogger sings the pub with no beer
[21:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: and fennec is no good?
[21:36] <jussi> btw, anyone know a way I can put something in the netbook panel for quick acess to the menu/desktop area - show desktop doeesnt help...
[21:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://maemo.nokia.com/features/maemo-browser/
[21:37] <apachelogger> jussi: isnt there an activity bar already?
[21:38] <jussi> apachelogger: activity bar?
[21:38] <apachelogger> well the thing where you ahve search&launch and page1
[21:39] <jussi> lol...duh! thanks
[21:39] <jussi> hehe
[21:52] <apachelogger> sheytan: maybe a title page background would also be useful?
[21:52] <sheytan> apachelogger sure, give me few minutes ;)
[21:58] <ScottK> jussi: I passed that on to the main plasma-netbook developer.  Agateau gets credit for the app menu stuff.
[21:58] <ScottK> That helps a lot.
[21:59] <jussi> ScottK: excellent!
[22:00] <jussi> ScottK: I do have one little complaint, when clicking on the activity bar, it changes straight away, so I have to click again to get back from page one - I just want it to show me search and launch...
[22:01] <ScottK> Then click on that part of the activity bar, right?
[22:01] <ScottK> I usually click on the app control widget in the panel to get present windows and click on the one I want.
[22:03] <jussi> yes, I click on the search and launch and it slides over to the page one...
[22:03] <jussi> although it doesnt happen everytime... its a bit strange
[22:04] <sheytan> apachelogger ready? :D
[22:04] <apachelogger> Always ^^
[22:05]  * ScottK doesn't ask "for what".
[22:05] <sheytan> ScottK Don't ask :D
[22:05]  * apachelogger thinks that is a good idea
[22:08] <sheytan> apachelogger http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/338/startpage.jpg
[22:08] <apachelogger> fancy
[22:08]  * apachelogger tries
[22:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: do you think one should place font on that?
[22:09] <sheytan> apachelogger on what?
[22:09] <apachelogger> on the background ^^
[22:09] <sheytan> Yeah, why not
[22:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: what color would you use for that?
[22:09]  * apachelogger thinks something greyish maybe
[22:10] <sheytan> white, only white here :D
[22:10] <sheytan> gray + blue != goodness :D
[22:10] <sheytan> i mean, not in this case :D
[22:14] <apachelogger> hm
[22:14] <apachelogger> not suited for large amounts of text
[22:14] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot74.png
[22:16] <apachelogger> sheytan: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot75.png
[22:16] <apachelogger> I do not think text fits there at all
[22:16] <apachelogger> sheytan: maybe removing the gear would help?
[22:17] <sheytan> apachelogger first you shouldn't put that much text into a presentation. And if you have to, like in this case you quote someone, use smaller font :)
[22:17] <sheytan> And i'll try  to remove the gear
[22:17] <apachelogger> people *will* use loads of text :P
[22:17] <apachelogger> they always do
[22:18] <sheytan> apachelogger they shouldn't
[22:18] <sheytan> if you put the same thing you will say into a presentation, it is useless
[22:18] <apachelogger> they also shouldn't use deprecated software, yet there are quite a few of them using gnome...
[22:19] <sheytan> anyway, make the font smaller :D
[22:20] <apachelogger> well, it wouldn't help the issue of the gear disturbing :P
[22:21] <sheytan> apachelogger this one will http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/338/startpage.jpg
[22:23] <apachelogger> better
[22:23] <apachelogger> though
[22:23]  * apachelogger still doesnt quite like how it looks
[22:23] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot76.png
[22:24] <sheytan> apachelogger why not? :P
[22:24] <apachelogger> not sure
[22:24] <apachelogger> it just looks a bit odd IMHO
[22:24] <apachelogger> then again I am not much of  fan of start pages anyway
[22:25]  * apachelogger would just use the first startpage background as empty page that is on before the talk actually begins, just looking nice, but not having any use
[22:26] <sheytan> apachelogger i can add stuff there, but simple looks better imho
[22:26] <sheytan> it's not a wallpaper :D
[22:26] <apachelogger> yeah
[22:26] <apachelogger> sheytan: just leave it, can you get me a png of both versions?
[22:26] <sheytan> sure
[22:26] <apachelogger> I think then the template is pretty much done :D
[22:27] <sheytan> apachelogger will this be the kubuntu default one? :D
[22:27] <apachelogger> I shall hope so
[22:28] <sheytan> Cool :D
[22:28] <sheytan> Btw, any plans to put libre office instead of open office?
[22:28] <sheytan> to 11.04
[22:29] <apachelogger> that is up to ubuntu
[22:30] <sheytan> they will replace it
[22:30] <sheytan> apachelogger if you decide, use that one without a gear :D
[22:31] <apachelogger> we will just provide both ;)
[22:31] <apachelogger> recommend the one without gear for pages with text, and the one with for text-less use
[22:32] <sheytan> sounds good
[22:33] <apachelogger> file:///home/me/Kubuntu.pdf
[22:33] <apachelogger> ehm
[22:33] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/Timelord/Kubuntu.pdf
[22:35] <sheytan> apachelogger http://www.sendspace.com/file/7h9qyi
[22:37] <sheytan> apachelogger http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5yevp
[22:38] <sheytan> brb
[22:38] <apachelogger> sheytan: thanks
[22:43] <sheytan> apachelogger share the template when you make it ;D
[22:43] <sheytan> and you're welcome ;)
[22:44] <apachelogger> opinions on the example pdf?
[22:46] <sheytan> apachelogger for pdf, the top and bottom parts should be 2 different files.
[22:46] <sheytan> but, well, looks nice :D
[22:47] <apachelogger> yeah, just showcasing all options
[22:48] <sheytan> looks good :D
[23:05] <sheytan> kI'm kGoing kTo kSleep. kBy kGuys :D
[23:09] <apachelogger> hm
[23:09] <apachelogger> maybe I should have compressed them pngs, the otp is 11 MiB ^^
[23:15] <apachelogger> oh
[23:15] <apachelogger> the png is rather largely exported
[23:18] <apachelogger> anyone still around?
[23:26] <apachelogger> well, then I shall go to bed ^^
[23:26] <apachelogger> o/
[23:42] <Sput> I'm still here, apachelogger!