[02:43] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi kdenetwork (4:4.5.2-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low * Merge with Debian git [02:43] remaining changes: - debian/control: - Build against libboost1.42-dev - Don't [03:05] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi kdesdk (4:4.5.2-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [ Alessandro Ghersi ] * Merge [03:05] with Debian git remaining changes: - Build against libboost1.42-dev - kdesdk-dbg [03:10] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi kdetoys (4:4.5.2-1ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [ Alessandro Ghersi ] * Merge [03:10] with Debian git remaining changes: - Don't add kweather.install (kweather is not [03:24] [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi [ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi kdeutils (4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [ Alessandro Ghersi ] * [03:47] Merge with Debian git remaining changes: - Add libzip-dev, [07:11] :O [07:11] apparently tonight was merge night [07:14] valorie: congrats on membership :) === DWonderly is now known as DarkwingDuck [07:50] wow, getting this in kubuntu would be awesome: [07:50] http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/parallel [07:50] basically, it replaces xargs, and does the same thing with multiple cores [07:50] can't find it in the repos, though [08:06] markey, Might package it up then, if you like. [08:06] persia: that'd be great :) [08:06] GNU stuff tends to be easy. I suspect you can get away with a rules.tiny solution. [08:13] thanks, apachelogger! [08:13] I look forward to meeting y' [08:13] all [08:13] soon [08:23] JontheEchidna: bug 662005 likely is caused by bogus packaging [08:23] Launchpad bug 662005 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "designer-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV in KLocale::codecForEncoding()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/662005 [08:23] me@logos:~$ dpkg -L okteta | grep designer [08:23] /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/designer [08:23] /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/designer/oktetadesignerplugin.so [08:23] that is pretty wrong right there.... [09:28] hm [09:29] IMHO kdm nees some major reinventing [09:29] *needs [09:29] IMO, kubuntu needs to clone apachelogger [09:29] :-) [09:30] you keep finding things that need total rebuilding or reinventing [09:30] going to happen at UDS :P [09:30] \0/ [09:30] then you'll have time for Disneyland! [09:32] there is a movie about that, though [09:32] about cloning? [09:32] watch out when your clones start going crazy and taking over your life [09:32] indeed [09:33] * apachelogger wouldnt have a problem with that either [09:33] in fact, probably a disney movie, lol [09:33] leaves 100% time for disney [09:33] or sleeping [09:33] rofl [09:35] * apachelogger notes that actually pretty decent concerts seem to be the week of UDS [09:35] next time I need to check that in more timely manner [09:35] on 23 there are the toasters [09:35] wow, like who is playing? [09:36] mgmt on monday [09:36] phoenis on tuesday [09:36] massive attack on wednesday [09:36] bad religion on saturday [09:36] I would like to see mgmt [09:37] I've seen bad religion, and they are awesome in concert [09:37] http://www.thesocial.org/details/?tfly_event_id=12745 [09:37] that video link to mgmt you posted earlier is still freaking me out [09:37] apachelogger: isn't kdm in the process of being plasmafied? [09:38] Sput: yes, though it needs reinventing under the hood too [09:38] you could make it all pink and fluffy inside! [09:38] though I suppose plasmafication makes most of the user visible wrongness disappear [09:38] if it should ever land in trunk [09:38] Sput: yus, reusing the plasma theme :D [09:38] less effort == splendid [09:39] * apachelogger notes that ticketmaster.com is quite the bad on usability [09:39] massive attack - eh [09:39] valorie: $40 for mgmt it seems [09:39] * valorie listens to the toasters on last.fm [09:39] that isn't bad [09:40] although small clubs are more to my liking [09:41] that does involve seeing some bands that are less than cool [09:41] but I've found some awesome ones as well [09:41] wikitravel says there is generally good night time entertainment in orlando... even illegal one in the sorta red light district ... [09:41] like Murder by Death [09:41] whom I love [09:44] last.fm's recommendations are pretty darn good! [09:48] hm [09:48] pam face authentication's qt gui needs [09:48] ehm [09:48] well [09:48] cuteness [09:48] in fact I wonder if however made it read the documentation for the widgets do not have layouts assigned to them messing up line wrapping [09:48] -.- [09:50] valorie: always a question of the right seed :) plus last.fm sometimes has bad days where it keeps giving me crappy songs [09:51] sure, but I was looking at suggested shows in my area [09:51] helps that Seattle has lots of little clubs [09:51] and the remains of a music scene [09:52] ah, I thought you meant the song suggestions [09:52] I do scrobble to last.fm so it knows what I like [09:52] yeah, I've been scrobbling for years and years [09:53] scrobbled 56707 songs :) [09:54] 44K, behind you [09:54] \o/ [09:54] but I do listen to the radio, and that doesn't scrobble [09:54] lol [09:54] sput wins! [09:54] yes I listen to the radio as well, and it scrobbles! [09:54] (mainly because I use amarok as last.fm player) [09:55] right, but i'm listening to NPR [09:55] lol [09:55] NPR? [09:55] National Public Radio [09:55] npr.org [09:55] ah [09:55] I listen to last.fm radio :) [09:55] they are actually good for music [09:56] but mostly news and analysis [10:10] valorie: ping [10:13] DarkwingDuck: pong [10:13] I hear you are a Doc person too [10:13] :-) [10:13] valorie: Dave Wonderly. Pleased to meet you [10:13] :) [10:13] ah! [10:14] Aye [10:14] indeed, and soon we'll get to meet in person [10:14] :-) [10:14] That we will. We have some work to do [10:14] I was looking through some of the site info [10:14] and it looks..... OLD [10:15] but I assume this means documentation at the app level, not just the site(s) [10:15] at doc.kde.org? [10:15] Aye [10:16] in the help center [10:16] help:/kubuntu/index/ [10:17] do we have different people working on the site, or is it all one team effort? [10:17] most of it wasn't updated to reflect 4.5 [10:17] seperated [10:17] I work with system docs. [10:17] Hows your XML and DocBook? [10:18] I've not really used it [10:18] but I've done markup [10:18] so I'm sure I can learn what's necessary [10:18] I'm a writer, that's my strength however [10:18] *nods* awesome. its always a start. Hows your english editing? [10:19] good to very good [10:19] timezone? [10:19] so, you know that userbase is becoming a landing place for docs [10:20] right? [10:20] Pacific time [10:20] I live south of Seattle, Washington USA [10:20] you? [10:20] San Diego [10:20] for instance, our Amarok Handbook is being created on Userbase [10:21] then being translated, and finally being put into Docbook [10:21] I believe they want to become the preferred work method [10:21] hmmm. [10:22] in that way, docs are available on the web and in the apps [10:22] identically [10:22] mostly [10:22] *nods* [10:22] that doesn't necessarily help with Kubuntu-specific stuff [10:23] but how much of that do we have? [10:23] :) We dont go too far into apps [10:23] mostly sys docs [10:23] ok, so KDE does the apps [10:23] yes [10:23] and we (on the sites) focus on use [10:23] and within the khelpcenter [10:24] k, I'm just trying to scout around and figure out how everything is organized [10:24] khelpcenter is within the apps, correct? [10:25] Im slowly organizing everything [10:25] Alt F2 > help [10:25] Everything under Kubuntu Documentation [10:25] we hold everything in a BZR branch [10:26] lp:kubuntu-docs [10:26] I understand I'm going to have to learn some BZR [10:26] ::sigh:: [10:26] lol [10:26] a bit :) [10:26] hoping my small git experience helps, instead of confuses [10:27] i was svn n picked up bzr in an hour [10:27] myself, jjesse and nixternal have commit access [10:28] +</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Ubuntu'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;"> [10:28] +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'Sans Serif';">Really in need of a UI wizard! =P</span></p></body></html> [10:28] srsly [10:28] * DarkwingDuck thwaps apachelogger [10:28] why does the ubuntu font come after you and eat your puppies [10:28] lol [10:28] * apachelogger is pissed and switches to bad music [10:28] apachelogger: you at uds? [10:28] will you rather [10:29] I shall annoy everyone at uds so hard that they will pay me to join opensuse, for opensuse does not have a stupid font that creeps up in your ui files [10:29] that is some horrible html "styling" apachelogger [10:29] how is ubuntu a font family anyway [10:29] ... [10:30] valorie: tell that to Qt [10:30] valorie: nixternal stepped down, jjesse will be limited in helping he said so i kinda inharited everything... glad i have more help [10:30] why people use qt designer is a mystery to me [10:30] sec [10:30] apachelogger: dont hold back... tell us what you really think [10:30] especially if they evidently have no idea of what is going on under the hood - hence the missing layouts in the pam-face-authentication stuff [10:30] * apachelogger takes his keyboard and throws it after uninformed programmers [10:31] :D [10:32] And, i have class in the morning. goodnight. valorie, looking forward to working with you. [10:32] nini DarkwingDuck [10:32] oh [10:32] apachelogger: you will be at uds? [10:32] that reminds me, I have algorithms magic in like 30 minutes [10:32] oh dear oh dear [10:32] DarkwingDuck: yes [10:32] apachelogger: see you there [10:33] nixternal stepped down? [10:33] sad [10:33] aye, he taught me most of what i know [10:34] but he'll be around enough to ask questions of? [10:34] I'm not afraid to ask and appear stupid [10:34] since sometimes I am [10:34] lol [10:34] I have his number. but ive been doing a couple years now :) [10:35] OK, well at UDS, I guess we will have a chance to do a review of what needs doing [10:35] prioritize, etc. [10:35] seems like maybe we need to recruit a few more people? [10:35] thats part of the plan [10:37] brrr [10:37] * apachelogger is looking forward to florida temperatures [10:38] flipping cold here [10:39] getting cold here too [10:39] was sunny, but brrrr [10:41] well folks, I'm running out of steam [10:41] niters [11:09] pavucontrol lacks icons when installed in Kubuntu. Does that mean I have to install Gnome icons as well? [11:17] Mamarok: Some items won't show up until a reboot has been performed, Failing that try running it from the CLI or from Alt-F2 to see if it has been install correctly [11:20] I wonder why qtcreator fails to build on arm with: libqtwebkit-dev : Depends: libqtwebkit4 (= 2.0.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [11:24] a reboot? You are kidding, this is linux after all [11:24] I did start it from krunner [11:31] debfx: maybe because qt4-dev-tools and libqtwebkit-dev depend on conflicting versions of libqtwebkit4? [11:32] (just guessing) [11:32] al: no, qt4-dev-tools : Depends: libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.0~week31) === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [12:29] meh [12:29] that pam-face-authentication gui is in need of design [12:30] ...and I dont mean the artworky design [12:31] also their wizard is made out of annoyance [12:47] apachelogger: let me know when you are done.. [12:47] apachelogger: oh and btw, where is my memenu!! ? :F [12:47] youmenu [12:47] oh [12:47] they are discussion wemenu I heared ^^ [12:48] that is like the nearby-foo plasmoid just more integrated [12:48] and called menu [12:49] hehe [12:50] ok, lets hope its cool [12:54] jussi: certainly not as cool as leaning over to my cam to get apt-get kicking ^^ [12:58] apachelogger: true [13:01] * apachelogger is a terrible bug reporter === hunger_ is now known as hunger [13:49] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187144 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Speed up the construction of the main Worker class by one blank QVariantMap construction. We always initialize it before use, so we don't need to construct it in the class initializer. [14:39] inkscape is broken \o/ [14:39] terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gtk::IconThemeError' [14:39] theme errors are certainly most fatal [15:33] apachelogger: see bug #651678 - very annoying [15:33] Launchpad bug 651678 in Inkscape "anjuta crashes with assertion failure on startup" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651678 === ulysses_ is now known as ulysses [17:23] http://www.moby.com/journal/2010-10-17/heres-where-i-spend-my-days-it-looks-nas.html [17:23] ehehehe [17:24] kewl site btw [17:24] apachelogger: im not getting a new phone ... infact .. i dont have a phone now :'( [17:25] time to run to knut i suppose :P [17:26] apachelogger: coming to the pizza+movie thing? [17:27] what pizza+movie thing? [17:27] knut the polar bear? [17:27] apachelogger: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/242/detail/ [17:27] shadeslayer: also about phones, thiago surely could get some n900 :P [17:28] apachelogger: we should poke him hard then :P [17:28] ohm [17:28] ehm [17:28] ahm [17:28] xls == excel, no? [17:28] yus [17:28] also ... pdf .. [17:29] well, nothing wrong with pdf [17:29] but xls [17:29] ... [17:29] fdf!!! [17:29] debfx: knut.. the awesome guy who gives away N900's :P [17:29] * apachelogger should drop one of those "please do not send me office files" replies just of the lolz of it [17:29] heh... [17:29] shadeslayer: he is also awesome for other reasons :P [17:30] like dancing the electonic boogie [17:30] apachelogger: yes, but giving away N900's tops the list [17:30] nah, electro boogie does :P [17:30] never seen him dance :) [17:30] ask the youtubez [17:31] too many polar bear results :P [17:31] oh wait [17:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzXtRtH8OBI [17:32] i think i saw that on CNN sometime ago [17:32] how can I convince bzr-buildpackage to build my uncommitted package? :( [17:33] debfx: erm.. you can commit and then uncommit if theres a issue, as long as you dont bzr push [17:33] by impl0ment0ring the true idea of bzr driven development [17:33] branch branch branch [17:34] shadeslayer: I could but I don't want to [17:34] apachelogger: ok.. i agree, electronic boogie tops the list [17:34] *nod* [17:34] so [17:34] about the pizza movie and free love thing [17:34] hmm [17:35] from a community building POV we should attend, of course I would rather have the whole kubuntu crew attend, so we probably should consider this at large [17:35] also, I think monday is the day valorie and I are going to the MGMT gig :P [17:35] MGMT ? [17:35] youtubez [17:35] ooohh rock [17:36] youtubez is the new lord google [17:36] disturbing video take 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI&ob=av2n ^^ [17:37] apachelogger: This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. << lulz [17:37] haha [17:37] clearly too disturbing for india [17:37] * apachelogger wished the same for austria [17:37] it is is sorta like amnesia - the dark decent as a music video [17:37] that said [17:37] I still did not finish amnesia [17:38] * apachelogger can only play like 30 minutes at a time before running danger of passing out [17:39] comments on bug 565376 welcome [17:39] Launchpad bug 565376 in desktopcouch "bughugger does not work in kubuntu lucid" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565376 [17:39] desktopcouch [17:39] surely that thing still does not support kwallet :P [17:39] yes .. [17:39] dont think so :P [17:39] also I am not entirely sure I patched it to [17:39] Quintasan hey dude. What about the PN logo. Do you want it still? :D [17:40] * apachelogger points sheytan_ towards a presentation template :P [17:40] sheytan_: id say yes :) [17:40] that said [17:40] what do you people think about porting the you bun too one to kubuntu blue&logo? [17:40] * sheytan_ is proud to announce that the Join Us page is now complete redesigned and waits for development :D [17:41] apachelogger is there a how to to create that template? [17:41] i mean, how do i put stuff to one file [17:41] via the master slide [17:41] hmm... i should one of my pending assignments ... [17:41] sheytan_: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/talks/Ubuntu%20in%2050%20minutes.odp if you can make me such a background I can put together the template [17:42] * apachelogger is not entirely sure if the style fits kubuntu though.... [17:45] oggy oggy oggy! [17:46] hmm... for some reason i dont have pinentry update [17:46] and im on the main mirror [17:46] Published 18 hours ago ... -.- [17:46] oh oh oh [17:47] W: pam-face-authentication: non-standard-dir-in-usr usr/kde/ [17:47] W: pam-face-authentication: file-in-unusual-dir usr/kde/4/bin/xwindowFaceAuth [17:47] E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade.xml [17:47] E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade_eye.xml [17:47] E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade_eye_tree_eyeglasses.xml [17:47] E: pam-face-authentication: file-directly-in-usr-share usr/share/haarcascade_nose.xml [17:47] at times I wonder [17:47] I REALLY DO [17:47] do developers actually think before doing thing [17:47] s [17:49] apachelogger: haha, knut is god! [17:49] fullack [17:56] apachelogger http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6811/basej.jpg === sheytan_ is now known as sheytan [17:58] sheytan: png would be better? [17:59] apachelogger this is only a demo :D [17:59] sure, just a sec :D [17:59] oh [17:59] me likes the demo [18:00] sheytan: need a different dimension too [18:01] something like 11 inch to 8 inch [18:02] apachelogger give me few minutes, todo list is endless :D [18:02] shadeslayer: What release are you running? [18:02] ScottK: maverick! [18:03] 11.02" by 8.27" [18:03] Not published then. [18:03] It needs review by the SRU team. [18:03] sheytan: ^ [18:03] shadeslayer: If you can't wait, it's in my PPA. [18:04] ScottK: nah.. i have a local deb here ... but what i dont understand is... if its published, is it stuck in SRU queue? [18:04] or rather the upload queue [18:04] shadeslayer: Not stuck. Waiting for review. [18:04] ohk [18:04] A member of ubuntu-sru reviews the diff for every SRU before approving it. [18:07] i thought you just upload it in proposed and your done :) [18:07] apachelogger 300ppi? [18:08] what are ppi? [18:08] apachelogger pixels per inch ;) [18:09] * apachelogger only knows dpi [18:09] and there I would go for 600+ [18:09] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot71.png [18:10] apachelogger dpi is the same as ppi i thin k [18:11] apachelogger: from wiki " Some digital file formats record a DPI value, or more commonly a PPI (pixels per inch) value, which is to be used when printing the image" [18:12] * apachelogger only knows DPI [18:12] so much for common :P [18:12] surely some artist wrote that article [18:12] shadeslayer: You're done, but the SRU team is not. [18:12] ok [18:13] sheytan: btw, I doubt the subtle surface of the header will be visible on most projectors [18:13] apachelogger yeah, that's why i put there a light gradient ;) [18:14] still not sure it would be noticable [18:14] most projectors out there are utter crap [18:14] apachelogger, don't worry :D [18:19] * apachelogger is too old to not worry :P [18:20] with regards to bug 655646 I am wondering if the indicator plugin will turn on the tray icon if no indicator is around... [18:20] Launchpad bug 655646 in kopete (Ubuntu) "Kopete's icon not shown in system tray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/655646 [18:26] shadeslayer: do we think we could just copy moby's site and use it for kubuntu? ^^ [18:26] I'm pretty sure you have to turn it back on yourself. [18:26] It's not a bug in any case. [18:26] apachelogger: is it GPLv* licensed? :P [18:26] ScottK: IMHO it is an upgrade issue [18:27] ScottK: yeah you can turn it on [18:27] apachelogger: What's the upgrade issue? [18:27] upon upgrade we should make sure the indicator is active, and if not add it [18:27] ScottK: that now kopete will close on close whereas before it did not and with indicator it does not either [18:27] apachelogger: does dh have a --with qt option? [18:27] If we're going to take the systray icon away, I agree. [18:28] shadeslayer: no, why? [18:28] what for? [18:28] just wondering [18:28] dh will figure out the build system itself [18:28] and what if the pro file is in src/ [18:28] the only reason we have with kde is because debian likes to do fancy stuff :P [18:28] and not in top level of source [18:28] shadeslayer: just override auto_dh_configure [18:28] or what the target is called [18:28] man dh [18:28] invoke qmake manually [18:28] right it wont pick that itself right? [18:29]