[00:01] <vbgunz> smooph1: that's an excellent question. it might be the greatest thing ever invented but like you I still don't know and without it being obvious I just haven't bothered to check it out. I'd suggest maybe googling about it for some background before you mess with it
[00:08] <smooph1> vbgunz: thats what I just did and I have to say that their might be some scenario where this is useful i think its stupid
[00:09] <smooph1> I would love to see a userexperience where somebody does something useful with it
[00:10] <Benkinooby> smooph1, it might be usefull if you use the widgets a lot. so creating different sets of widgest (work, entertainment, ....) might increase efficency
[00:10] <James147> smooph1: as far as I knw activities are under heavy developmetn atm... there is a lot of intrest in them from the developers end so in the comming releases I would expect to see larges changes in them
[00:10] <James147> Benkinooby: they can also be used to store applications as well
[00:10] <James147> not jsut widgets
[00:11] <James147> I think the idea behind them is they each store a "task" which consists of a set of programs and widgets...
[00:12] <Benkinooby> James147, yes you are correct. now reading about that topic i got proofen right http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7671 smooph
[00:12] <Benkinooby> James147, yes you are correct. now reading about that topic i got proofen right http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7671 smooph1
[00:12] <Benkinooby> sorry
[00:16] <James147> Benkinooby: smooph2: this might be of intrest: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/358560-kde-45-desktop-activities-brings-new-meaning-to-organization
[00:17] <smooph2> i just read that article and I am not convinced
[00:20] <Benkinooby> James147, smooph2 to be honest i don't use kde (too heavy for my netbook). the only point of activities might be this launcher (similar to gnome-do)... but i already use kupfer (it's starting with k, but i guess it is not part of the kde) and that is all i need </advertisement> ;)
[00:21] <James147> Benkinooby: krunner is essentially the kde version of gnome-do... nothing to do with activities
[00:21]  * James147 uses kde on his netbook without a problem :S
[00:25] <James147> this also might intrest you: http://chani.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/the-future-of-activities/
[00:38] <xchat> yo
[00:40] <pr0xy> hello
[00:41] <xchat_> hm
[01:04] <firi> hallo
[01:14] <wangari> hi?
[02:58] <lavik> hello..
[03:46] <robin> hello?
[03:46] <adama_> !screensaver
[03:46] <Guest76272> is anybody in?
[03:47] <Guest76272> hello?
[04:03] <retrospectacus> how to setup the screensaver in 10.10 ?
[04:23] <dan_l> !update
[04:23] <retrospectacus> I installed all the screensaver packages but still can't find anywhere to pick a screensaver
[04:23] <dan_l> does anybody know how to start the upgrade to 10.10?
[04:23] <dan_l> I've got a 10.04 install
[04:44]  * islington is away: Gone away for now
[04:45]  * islington is back.
[06:42] <mkpaa> does someone actually have bluetooth working on kubuntu? I can't get bluetooth-agent to find my adapter, hciconfig and hcitool work fine, but there is no working agent available
[06:44] <ForgeAus> I have used bluetooth in kubuntu before, but I didn't have adapter issues
[06:44] <ForgeAus> it mostly did all that transparently
[06:45] <ForgeAus> all I did was plug in the USB bluetooth dongle and it detected the device for me
[06:47] <mkpaa> nods, that is what I did and it, well, finds/doesn't find it
[06:48] <mkpaa> it is listed in adapters, but when I try add device it says no adapters found
[06:48] <ForgeAus> uh I'm not certain how to help you there
[06:48] <mkpaa> nods, good to know that it is atleast technically working :)
[06:49] <mkpaa> lsusb shows Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth dongle
[06:49] <mkpaa> and so does system settings/bluetooth/adapters, but then bluetooth/devices/add device  says no adapters found
[06:53] <tekgeek> I just tried my cell phone on it I had to right click on the bluetooth icon go to settings bluetooth adapters and then set it as discoverable on my laptop
[06:54] <mkpaa> this isn't a visibility issue
[06:54] <tekgeek> my phone could not see the bluetooth on the laptop till I did that
[06:54] <tekgeek> its connected now ... I had never tried that before heh
[06:55] <tekgeek> you are just having an issue with a bt adapter you plug in?
[06:56] <mkpaa> yes
[06:57] <ForgeAus> is it the pc's bluetooth device itself that it is saying isn't found or the other bluetooth device its trying to connect to thats not found?
[06:57] <tekgeek> okay well if you could try it on another machine to see if it works? my dad had bought a micro BT usb device and it would not work on his laptop but it would work on the deskto
[06:57] <akis> hi. i have an hp notebook dv4000 series with an intel celeron 1,50 ghz and only 250 mb ram shared with gaphical adaptor. Which editon of suse (if any) is the apropriate for this machine?
[06:57] <tekgeek> desktop
[06:57] <ForgeAus> I'm slightly confused between the two with the terminology your using
[06:57] <akis> hi. i have an hp notebook dv4000 series with an intel celeron 1,50 ghz and only 250 mb ram shared with gaphical adaptor. Which editon of kubuntu (if any) is the apropriate for this machine?
[06:58] <ForgeAus> n ote: my usb dongle has a led to confirm the bluetooth is working/on
[06:58] <tekgeek> akis: download the newest one and try it as a live cd to see if it works
[06:59] <mkpaa> this could be some permission/dbus issue, but I don't know where to start
[06:59] <mkpaa> the dongle works on windows 7 machine just fine
[07:00] <mkpaa> forge, it is the same piece of system settings, adapter part says found and decices / add device says not found
[07:06] <tekgeek> I just setup synergy on my laptop with kubuntu and on my windows desktop and I keep forgetting I don't have to turn around to type or use the laptop mouse
[07:10] <mkpaa> typing with 2 keyboards is funny :)
[07:10] <tekgeek> have you tried synergy? its the over tcp ip kvm kinda...
[07:11] <tekgeek> the mouse will just move across to the other computer
[07:11] <mkpaa> yes, got it working
[07:12] <tekgeek> the bluetooth?
[07:12] <mkpaa> (synergy, not bluetooth) :P
[07:12] <tekgeek> heh ok
[07:12] <tekgeek> yea I spent an hour or so tonight setting it up and could not figure out what I was doing wrong
[07:13] <tekgeek> watched some videos on how to set it up and some sites ... but none of them said to do what I did to fix it
[07:15] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: I just use a simple k/b +monitor switch .. and multiplex my middle monitor between the two systems ;)
[07:16] <bthesorceror> has anyone else had their synaptics trackpad show up as a ps/2 generic mouse?
[07:17] <tekgeek> frogonwheels:  yea I have several kvm switches in the house but been wanting to try this on my laptop sitting next to me at my desktop
[07:17] <tekgeek> I have 10+ computers in the house and 2 of them run windows for special reasons
[07:18] <frogonwheels> :)
[07:18] <tekgeek> my dads wife doesn't understand linux yet but she is getting there
[07:19] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: I have my MIL running ubuntu :)
[07:19] <frogonwheels> kubuntu even
[07:19] <tekgeek> I have to run it on at least one machine so i don't forget how to use it ... I run a computer repair shop and have to remember how to fix them
[07:19] <frogonwheels> ahh.. yes.  presuming you are talking about windoze
[07:19] <tekgeek> yea
[07:20] <tekgeek> gotta love it ... they break down all the time and I have to fix them
[07:20] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: my work is on windoze, so I'm forced to run at least one.
[07:20] <tekgeek> but then I convince some customers to try out linux and they never call me back to fix them
[07:21] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: as long as it's not 'cause they got fed up and reinstalled windows.. :)
[07:22] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: i had a relative do that to me .. (I set them up with both) ..
[07:22] <tekgeek> frogonwheels:  nope I run into these people in town and they tell me that they have not had one problem runing linux I usually set newbies up with  pclinuxos cause its extremely easy to learn for new linux users
[07:23] <frogonwheels> tekgeek:  and then they got some nasty malware on windoze which motivated them to use kubuntu again !!
[07:23] <tekgeek> hah
[07:23] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: haven't tried that one ;)
[07:23] <tekgeek> pclinuxos is real nice I favor that and kubuntu the most
[07:24] <frogonwheels> tekgeek:  they were downloading torrents and using vlc mostly to play them, so at least there was familiar ground.
[07:24] <retrospectacus> I installed all the screensaver packages but still can't find anywhere to pick a screensaver
[07:24] <tekgeek> the only reason I moved to kubuntu was cause 3 years ago pclinuxos had problems with my wireless adapter on my laptop it would cut out when I did large file moves
[07:25] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: :( I've got a wireless-N card that's pretty much useless as linux seems to trigger a hardware crash in it.
[07:25] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: the only distro that came close to actually driving it was OpenWRT :)
[07:25] <tekgeek> retrospectacus:  under settings there you click on system settings
[07:26] <retrospectacus> and then?
[07:26] <tekgeek> retrospectacus: there is an icon that says desktop
[07:26] <tekgeek> it should be in there
[07:27] <frogonwheels> retrospectacus: if you type 'screensaver' in the search box (top right-hand corner)  it leaves the modules that match un-greyed.
[07:27] <tekgeek> frogonwheels: well not sure if you knew but wireless N was not a standard till january so no one had a set driver for it
[07:28] <tekgeek> I didn't trust wireless N till the last few couple months ....
[07:28] <frogonwheels> tekgeek: didn't know it was that recent.  maybe next year I'll buy a new wireless-N card.
[07:29] <tekgeek> frogonwheels: yea it was called wireless N Draft till january it was a proposed standard that everyone was fighting for like  HD versus Blue ray
[07:29] <retrospectacus> Oh my god I found it
[07:29] <frogonwheels> retrospectacus: was it down the back of the sofa?
[07:29] <tekgeek> haha
[07:30] <tekgeek> I keep moving back my chair and spinning to the left to type on my laptop when I have synergy running
[07:30] <mkpaa> this: bluetooth-util.c: Error from GetProperties reply: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied  .. may or may not have something to do with the problem
[07:31] <mkpaa> probably not
[07:31] <tekgeek> I have been working since 7pm trying to learn java scripts for my website ... its 1:30am here now
[07:39] <moetunes> noscript ftw!
[07:40] <akis> hi. can any one please advise me about the minimum requirements for kubuntu 10.04 lts for netbooks?
[07:41] <tekgeek> akis: what type of netbook do you have?    also there is a Ubuntu version for netbooks called easypeasy
[07:42] <tekgeek> well there is a couple of them easypeasy started out with ubuntu and spun off I think ubuntu has a new one
[07:42] <tekgeek> http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[07:43] <tekgeek> yea  here is the ubuntu official version  http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[07:43] <ozysimpson_2> Good day guys, I generally connect to my remote server using ssh -X -p <777> user@remotehost now i would like to connect using vncviewer, I am unable to do so could some please help me how do i go about solving this issue
[07:43] <tekgeek> nevermind
[07:44] <tekgeek> ozysimpson_2: is this on a local network or are you doing this from another location?
[07:44] <ozysimpson_2> tekgeek, its from a different location
[07:45] <tekgeek> ozysimpson_2: okay so I am going to assume you used port forwarding in a router and check to see if the IP has changed at the location you are trying to access?
[07:47] <ozysimpson_2> tekgeek, you are right, I dont manage the remote site, but your guess is right, they have port forwarded on the router, the IP address on the remote hasnt changed i can still connect to it using ssh
[07:47] <ozysimpson_2> tekgeek, i also check to see if the service is running using ps and yes it is running
[07:48] <ozysimpson_2> tekgeek, and the iptables is turned off and there is no filters
[07:48] <und3rgr0undz3r0> hey
[07:48] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I have a ATI Radeon® Xpress 1100. How do I install the drivers?
[07:50] <tekgeek> ozysimpson_2: okay well there really is not much other than that I have personally connected to my ubuntu box from another location I just had to setup the remote desktop to be ready to recieve and the right ports setup on the router
[07:50] <moetunes> !ati | und3rgr0undz3r0
[07:50] <retrospectacus> !iphone
[07:50] <tekgeek> ozysimpson_2: are you trying to access from a win box or from a linux box
[07:51] <ozysimpson_2> tekgeek, windows? it will be over my dead body, for sure its linux :-)
[07:51] <tekgeek> ozysimpson_2:  I use tightvnc when I am on my win box and I use Krdc from linux to connect to either
[07:51] <tekgeek> heh
[07:51] <ozysimpson_2> i am using vncviewer on my ubuntu
[07:52] <geekosopher> !RockBox
[07:53] <tekgeek> the only thing I can think of is maybe its waiting for confirmation on the remote desktop? but other than that I would double check the settings in  RDP
[07:54] <tekgeek> I am connected now and the only thing I think it could be is that ...  a check for ask you for confirmation
[07:55] <ozysimpson_2> am i suppose to run anything else except vncserver from the server side ?
[07:55] <tekgeek> nope
[07:56] <tekgeek> at least I have never had to
[07:56] <tekgeek> I use it all the time here cause I have 10+ computers in the house
[07:57] <ozysimpson_2> Ok let me do more troubleshooting and discuss the outcome to the channel
[07:58] <tekgeek> well hopefully its just something you missed I would hate it be something other than that which you can not resolve
[09:42] <koditchee> ohai
[09:42] <koditchee> How many Botnets are here.
[10:01] <akis> hi all. can kubuntu 10.04 for netbooks run with only 256 ram?
[10:14] <akis> any advise pls.
[10:16] <valorie> akis, have you tried with a liveCD or liveUSB?
[10:16] <valorie> if it runs that way, it will do great installed
[10:16] <valorie> if not.....
[10:16] <valorie> chancy
[10:16] <valorie> chancey
[10:16] <FloodBotK2> valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:18] <akis> no i didn't. i try to find the minimal requirements for 10.10 but i didn't find anything
[10:28] <valorie> if you have a USB key available, all it will cost you is some time
[10:28] <valorie> download the .iso you want, then use
[10:28] <valorie> !usb
[10:28] <valorie> hmmm
[10:29] <valorie> I just used the kde app, and it worked well
[10:46] <Guest88376> does anyone experiance high cpu usgae by kminx. my kde version is 4.5.2
[10:47] <Guest88376> kmix
[10:47] <Guest88376> !nick
[11:42] <ForgeAus> what hppens with firefox and KDE can you bind it to QT or KDE ?
[11:42] <ForgeAus> is there a package or does it just have to use gtk?
[11:47] <ForgeAus> hmmm...
[11:59] <bayudhanu> test
[12:00] <Mamarok> bayudhanu: this is a support channel
[12:20] <sobczyk> hi, where to put my gtk+ theme so I can set it in kde settings?
[12:20] <ForgeAus> system-settings uh is it appearance applet? you can select gnome theme there usually
[12:21] <ForgeAus> you may need some stuff installed for it to show up tho, I don't know specifically...
[12:23] <sobczyk> I have only QtCurve and Raleigh, but would want to install ie. new wave
[12:36] <CrypTom> Hi all, I've installed kubuntu maverick and cannot find and simple way (= with the mouse, not with commands) to edit a file as root
[12:38] <CrypTom> a google search did no help much, seems as some distros habe "open as root" support for dolphin
[12:40] <ForgeAus> CrypTom, Krusader usually has it
[12:40] <ForgeAus> (only its more a root-user mode in the menu somewhere, rather than an individual choice to open a single file as root user)
[12:41] <CrypTom> this is not a real problem for me as I've been using linux for 12years, but when I want to convince friends to use linux, it is not an option to tell them that there is always a command line way...
[12:41] <ForgeAus> basically quits itself and reopens krusader as the root user
[12:41] <ForgeAus> CrypTom, well I have to admit I prefer to use GUI options where available
[12:41] <CrypTom> ForgeAus: ok, I've searched (and found) a way for gnome: the nautilus-gksu package
[12:42] <ForgeAus> ouch gnome!
[12:42] <CrypTom> but for kde, I did not find a package
[12:42] <ForgeAus> even I'd take kdesudo over using nautilus!
[12:43] <ForgeAus> but hey, diskspace is cheap uh?
[12:43] <CrypTom> ForgeAus: I use shells the whole day, but a linux-newby... why explain him to Alt+F2 and use kdesudo kate /foo
[12:44] <ForgeAus> I do find permissions and root users an annoyance personally
[12:44] <ForgeAus> even in windows nowerdays with UAC
[12:45] <ForgeAus> but then I've never really been one who's security minded - I usually find myself being the one who's kept in by the fence intended to keep the foxes out of the chicken coop
[12:45] <CrypTom> ForgeAus: I found feature requests from 2007/2008, but it can't be true that kubuntu (kde) does not offer a gui way to open a file as root (or whatever, change perms or delete)
[12:45] <CrypTom> ForgeAus: :-)
[12:49] <ForgeAus> hehe thers always running a nested X using Xephyr as root user, but even that requires some commandline work to set up
[12:50] <ForgeAus> and oddly enough I was discouraged froim doing it
[12:50] <ForgeAus> however I must say I did find it handy with ZenLinux doing that...
[12:51] <ForgeAus> nowerdays theres all sorts of hitches to useful stuff like control+alt+backspace is disabled by default
[12:51] <ForgeAus> the XDMC (or whatever the acronym/option is) is disabled by default for multiple simultaneous KDM logins
[12:51] <ForgeAus> and so on..
[12:52] <ForgeAus> also you may even have to assign a password to the root user in ubuntu...
[12:53] <ForgeAus> (by default you sudo to act as root I'm not certain the actual root user has a password)
[13:05] <CrypTom> ForgeAus: no, root does not have a password
[13:06] <CrypTom> ForgeAus: there is a ppa offering root actions for dolphin, but in my opinion kubuntu should integrate that
[13:09] <ForgeAus> note: you can set a password for the root user, thats not difficult
[13:09] <ForgeAus> (I normally use the same one as the user I installed it under...)
[13:09] <ForgeAus> that way I don't get confused, but again its probably technically considered unsecure to do that
[13:10] <ForgeAus> which would be fine if I was on a multi-user system probably but since I'm the only one using the PC its... an annoyance more than anything
[13:11] <ForgeAus> stilll it is true that using the root user opens up vulnerabilities and makes the entire filesystem succeptible to alteration whereas using a different user, you don't have that concern
[13:12] <ForgeAus> there are IRC servers that actually kline or worse users who log in as the username: root
[13:13] <Kalidarn> yeah u need to set a root password
[13:13] <Kalidarn> if u want one
[13:13] <ForgeAus> for the most part doing that is unnecessary
[13:13] <Kalidarn> lols ForgeAus your in every channel im in lol
[13:13] <ForgeAus> but it does have its uses sometimes
[13:13] <ForgeAus> Kalidarn, well I'm in some other to
[13:13] <Kalidarn> so am i ;P
[13:13] <Kalidarn> your not in ##freebsd ;)
[13:14] <ForgeAus> but I must admit I was only in macports because of you
[13:14] <ForgeAus> (mostly to help you followup with yuor problem)
[13:15] <ForgeAus> because I might hav actually learned something or been able to take up the rest of what you needed help with from a point the macports people got you to
[13:15] <ForgeAus> although obviously they're prety silent right now
[13:18] <Kalidarn> true thanks
[13:19] <ForgeAus> like I said sorry I couldn't have been of any more help!
[13:19] <Kalidarn> port -nRd upgrade --force kdebase4
[13:19] <Kalidarn> hopefully this fixes it
[13:19] <Kalidarn> drkonqi always wants to crash on me :(
[13:41] <supermag> hi how do i read miniDv's from a sony cam ?
[13:44] <Peace-> supermag: ok
[13:44] <Peace-> supermag: you have kdenlive
[13:44] <Peace-> supermag: have you medibuntu repository?
[13:44] <supermag> i think so..
[13:45] <Peace-> so install kdenlive
[13:45] <Peace-> and
[13:45] <supermag> no, i dont have that..
[13:45] <Peace-> ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-52 libavdevice-unstripped-52 libavformat-unstripped-52 libavutil-unstripped-49 libpostproc-unstripped-51 libswscale-unstripped-0
[13:46] <Peace-> that should install everydamendd encoder
[13:46] <Peace-> for kdenlive
[13:47] <supermag> ok
[13:48] <Peace-> but of couse you need medibuntu repository
[13:49] <Peace-> if you have not
[13:49] <Peace-> !medibuntu
[13:52] <supermag> hm.. i have inserted the miniDV, but nothing happens..
[13:58] <Peace-> supermag: well
[13:58] <Peace-> supermag: you have to open kdenlive
[13:58] <Peace-> and then caputre...
[13:58] <Peace-> capture
[14:07] <supermag> it's not connected with firewire, the disk is in my cd rom drive
[14:08] <supermag> i think it is raw data..
[14:13] <supermag> oh shit.. my cd rom is a NON dvd type
[14:14] <supermag> doh!
[14:16] <simion314> how to setup openDNS in kubuntu lucid? resolv.conf does not exists and i created it but it does not work, should i yse the GUI? the static IP configuration i done it in /etc/network/interfaces because i do not trust the GUI and all the wizards
[14:36] <Peace-> supermag: well..
[14:36] <Peace-> supermag: kdenlive eats dv files
[14:37] <Peace-> if you have a dvd ...
[14:37] <Peace-> just drag and drop the file...
[14:37] <Peace-> simion314: have you a router?
[14:37] <supermag> Peace-: mh.. dmesg of the cd input results in :
[14:37] <supermag> [ 2602.287689] sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[14:37] <supermag> [ 2602.287880] sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
[14:37] <supermag> [ 2739.498799] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[14:37] <FloodBotK1> supermag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <simion314> Peace-: i have other Pc connected to the internet and i am sharing the internet connections
[14:38] <Peace-> simion314: https://store.opendns.com/setup/device/ubuntu/ just do that with knetworkmanager
[14:39] <Peace-> supermag: i dunno you was asking about kdenlive and dv files
[14:39] <supermag> Peace-:  Even if the miniDVD is full!
[14:39] <simion314> Peace-: i realy do not like the GUI, it should have a simple way to chose from ,dhcp or static or other and let me enter IP and all the stuff
[14:39] <Peace-> simion314: well that is the easiest way
[14:39] <Peace-> i guess you should modify interfaces
[14:39] <Peace-> but i don't nkow how
[14:40] <Peace-> maybegoogling
[14:41] <simion314> Peace-: i set my IPs using /network/interfaces and setting the opendns  should be made using /etc/resolv.conf but now it is mssing , i think that they changed how things are done and nobody  made qa how to or something
[14:42] <Peace-> simion314: resolv.conf is not used anymore
[14:42] <Peace->  like xorg.conf
[14:43] <k0s> huj
[14:43] <simion314> Peace-: and geub/menu.lst they always change things, it is hard untill you get the new ways
[14:44] <Peace-> simion314: menu.lst doens't exist anymore
[14:44] <simion314> i prefer the simplicity to configure arch
[14:44] <Peace-> simion314: we get grub2
[14:44] <Peace-> with grub.cfg
[14:44] <Peace-> simion314: wel... kubuntu uses the latest stuff
[14:44] <Peace-> arch is a distro for expert
[14:44] <Peace-> but i didn't use that stuff
[14:45] <Peace-> i want a system that works fast
[14:46] <simion314> Peace-: is not so hard, just that i have a crapy laptop and using arch can be hard because the y always use the latest stuff,kernel and xorg and i could get into bugs with my stupid video or sound card
[14:46] <Peace-> simion314: you have only to keep the older version if you don't want stupid bug.. like i have doen keepping 10.04 instead to upgrade to 10.10
[14:47] <Peace-> keeping
[14:47] <Peace-> done
[14:47] <Peace-> :) typo
[14:47] <Peace-> ah you meant arch
[14:48] <Peace-> well i didn't used that stuff
[14:48] <Peace-> kubuntu is a nice way for linux for me
[14:48] <Peace-> not too hard not too easy
[14:48] <simion314> Peace-: tried to install 10.10 64 bit on a PC and it crashed during booting, maybe it was the CD, i do not know, i remained with 10.04 , i get impresed when my laptp seen  the XP shares on other PC and the XP could not see thse shares,it seamed like magic
[14:49] <simion314> Peace-: it would e nice to get latest kde in 10.04 but i think we will have to upgrade to get 4.6
[14:49] <Peace-> simion314: you should use alternate cd
[14:49] <Peace-> i have seen a lots of prioblem in these year with desktop version
[14:49] <Peace-> alternate version has always worked fine
[14:50] <Peace-> years
[14:50] <Peace-> samba ..
[14:50] <Peace-> you have to set it well
[14:55] <simion314> Peace-: my bigest problem i the video driver, can't resume from suspend, can't use multi monitors
[14:55] <Peace-> simion314: on kubuntu ?
[14:55] <Peace-> simion314: how many ram did you have and how much spwan did you used
[14:56] <Peace-> omg my english
[14:56] <Peace-> xD
[14:56] <Peace-> how much ram have you ? and how much spwan di you set on the installation
[14:57] <Peace-> no way :D
[14:57] <Peace-> swap
[14:57] <simion314> Peace-: i have 2 Gb of ram, swap i have less then 2 gb, i have only 1 Gb
[14:57] <Peace-> you can't suspend if you have few swap
[14:57] <Peace-> mm
[14:58] <Peace-> simion314: just amomente
[14:58] <Peace-> a moment
[14:58] <Peace-> simion314: just try this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/bash-close-kde-with-bash-using-dbus/
[14:58] <Peace-> simion314: try to use suspend with that command
[14:59] <Peace-> and view the error
[14:59] <Peace-> if there is
[14:59] <Peace-> an error
[14:59] <Peace-> that is my blog..
[14:59] <simion314> Peace-: i can suspend ,i can't resume , the thing is wih the propritary driver worked with this swap
[15:00] <Peace-> simion314: video card?
[15:02] <simion314> Peace-: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]  , it has no longer support from ATI so i have to use open source driver
[15:02] <Peace-> omg
[15:03] <Peace-> ati xpress200 a notebook
[15:03] <Peace-> xD i had that videocard
[15:03] <Peace-> simion314: what i can say ati sucks
[15:05] <simion314> if you have a suported card it is ok, i know that intel suck too si it remains nvidia maybe they make drivers for more time, i have no idea
[15:06] <Peace-> simion314: yea you right intel sucks too
[15:06] <Peace-> simion314: i have one and 10.10 doesn't work well
[15:06] <Peace-> simion314: so i have 10.04 :)
[15:06] <Peace-> too
[15:06] <Peace-> simion314: but i have found a lots of topic on ubuntu forum about your card...
[15:07] <Peace-> simion314: maybe there is a solution
[15:07] <Peace-> simion314: glxinfo | grep render
[15:09] <simion314> direct rendering: Yes
[15:09] <simion314> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RS400 5A62) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 NO-TCL
[15:09] <simion314> Peace-: kwin effects work fine
[15:09] <Peace-> so..
[15:09] <Peace-> i guess is the best you can get
[15:09] <Peace-> i think
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:17] <simion314> Peace-: i will google to find where /etc/resolv.conf disapeared
[16:46] <jhutchins_lt> Anyone know of a tool to monitor a connection to an ISP for uptime?
[17:08] <Uppsilon> hi
[17:09] <Uppsilon> I can't seem to log in, I see KDM, login and then it goes blank for a few seconds and kdm reappears
[17:10] <Uppsilon> I can log in via the console at ctrl+alt_F1 or any of those terminals
[17:11] <Uppsilon> anyone?
[18:09] <sresu> FFMPEG (libavcodec) installation lacks the following encoder: MPEG AAC Audio. How to fix this?
[18:09] <snarkster> can you install the aac audio codec?
[18:10] <sresu> snarkster: What is the correct package name for it?
[18:10] <snarkster> i believe libmp4v2-0
[18:11] <snarkster> im on gnome at the moment, so did a search thru synaptic for aac
[18:12] <snarkster> how do i get the icons for devices to show up on the folderview desktop?
[18:12] <sresu> snarkster: Hold on please
[18:16] <sresu> snarkster: No, it didn't help
[18:16] <sresu> snarkster: Its Streaming / Transcoding failed:... error basically
[18:16] <snarkster> you have transcode installed?
[18:17] <snarkster> do you have faad installed?
[18:17] <snarkster> may i inquire as to what your trying to do?
[18:18] <sresu> Yes, I've faad installed
[18:19] <sresu> snarkster: Yes, I'm trying to use Convert/Save option in VLC
[18:19] <snarkster> ive never been able to get that to work correctly
[18:20] <snarkster> do you have faac installed as well?
[18:20] <snarkster> you have libfaad2 installed?
[18:21] <sresu> Yes for both
[18:22] <snarkster> hmm
[18:22] <snarkster> have you tried mplayer>
[18:22] <snarkster> i really hate it when getdeb is down
[18:23] <snarkster> are you trying to convert save a dvd?
[18:23] <sresu> snarkster: mplayer for converting and saving aac media
[18:23] <sresu> snarkster: No
[18:23] <snarkster> mplayer is supposed to play EVERYTHING.. just askin anyway
[18:24] <sresu> snarkster: Oh.. That's fine. I only want to save and convert aac media
[18:24] <snarkster> what about ffmpeg?
[18:25] <sresu> snarkster: ^first
[18:25] <snarkster> could try it? <shrug>
[18:25] <snarkster> winffmepg is alot easier than the command line
[18:26] <snarkster> sorry winff
[18:26] <sresu> snarkster: ffmpeg itself gives that error since vlc uses it
[18:26] <sresu> snarkster: No never tried winff
[18:26] <snarkster> corrupt data file?
[18:27] <snarkster> or is this a stream?
[18:27] <sresu> snarkster: Yes, second attempt was on stream. First on simple acc file
[18:27] <sresu>  How to have aac stream saved?
[18:28] <snarkster> what are you attempting to convert to?
[18:28] <sresu> snarkster: First aac file to mp3/wav
[18:29] <snarkster> here try this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+covert+aac
[18:29] <snarkster> first link explains how to
[18:30] <snarkster> second link may be better
[18:30] <snarkster> the ehow link
[18:31] <sresu> snarkster: Thanks for looking into it.
[18:31] <snarkster> it is of course set for ubuntu not kubuntu
[18:31] <snarkster> hope that helps.
[18:32] <snarkster> now back to my icon question. id really like to have icons appear on my desktop for devices like cds and such.
[18:33] <snarkster> ala kde 3.5 style.
[18:35] <snarkster> ok by all the responses Im getting there is no option for that. LOL
[18:42] <nasser750gx> Hello
[18:42] <nasser750gx> Anybody can help me
[18:42] <nasser750gx> regarding a PPTPD question?
[18:42] <nasser750gx> ???
[18:43] <nasser750gx> Is this room alive?
[18:55] <ArGGu^^> hello can I remove pulseadio in kubuntu maverick by just removing the pulseadio package?
[18:56] <ArGGu^^> or do I need to do some configuration also?
[18:56] <ArGGu^^> *pulseaudio
[18:56] <nasser750gx> My Question is I want to know how to setup IP Ranges in PPTPD Config File, so I can service more than a 1000 Users
[19:02] <Chaos2358> hey guys i have a question. I installed Amarok music organizer on my Lucid lap top. It says it's kse but was in synap package manager so i figured it was cool. the problem lies in that it wont recognize any of my mp3 media. I have the Ubuntu restricted material installed as well as the mp3 codecs and everything else on my system recognizes the mp3's. Any ideas??
[19:03] <Peace-> Chaos2358: mm
[19:03] <Peace-> Chaos2358: have you kubuntu ?
[19:03] <Peace-> or ubuntu ?
[19:03] <Chaos2358> No I have ubuntu
[19:03] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[19:03] <Chaos2358> Yet Amaroke KDE wa in my package manager
[19:04] <Chaos2358> DOne it
[19:04] <draik> I'm not sure what happened, or is happening, but I cannot burn to a DVD.
[19:04] <Peace-> draik: mm?
[19:04] <draik> I'm using k3b and brasero. K3b will see the optical drive, then say it won't burn.
[19:04] <draik> Brasero just doesn't see the drive.
[19:04] <Peace-> brasero is shit
[19:04] <draik> OK. it will be removed
[19:04] <Chaos2358>  agree brasero is shit
[19:04] <Peace-> k3b on the terminal
[19:04] <Peace-> and you can see the error
[19:05] <Peace-> then googling...
[19:05] <Peace-> Chaos2358: wait a second
[19:05] <Chaos2358> ok thank you
[19:05] <Peace-> Chaos2358: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[19:05] <Peace-> try that
[19:05] <Chaos2358> ok 1 sec
[19:05] <draik> No optical drive found.K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution: Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding devices
[19:05] <draik> That's the error
[19:06] <Peace-> draik: wow the daemon doesnt runnin gxD
[19:06] <draik> What is the HAL daemon name? I don't see hald in /etc/init.d/
[19:06] <Chaos2358> Peace-,  package may be missing or obsolete
[19:07] <Peace-> draik: Add your username to /etc/group under disk.
[19:07] <Peace-> draik: it's a missing package
[19:07] <Peace-> draik: sorry was not fr you the last message
[19:07] <Peace-> Chaos2358:  there is something that you are missing
[19:07] <Peace-> that's all
[19:08] <palodequeso> has anyone else ever had the issue "Can't open device file /dev/nvidia0"?
[19:08] <draik> Peace-: disk:x:6:draik   -- is that correct?
[19:08] <palodequeso> This is the first nvidia card I've ever had issue with.
[19:08] <Chaos2358> Peace-,  ok but does it make any difference that amarok is the only thing that doesnt recognize mp3's? possible that it just isnt cross platform compatible?
[19:10] <draik> Peace-: I added my username, restarted k3b, but still getting the same error.
[19:10] <Peace-> draik: ok that solution
[19:10] <Peace-> doens0t work
[19:11] <Peace-> Chaos2358: well amarok is made with debian system
[19:11] <Peace-> and mp3 it's not free
[19:11] <Chaos2358> it's got me a bit confused
[19:11] <Peace-> like you could think
[19:11] <Peace-> mp3 is a codec
[19:12] <Chaos2358> Peace-,  because it's the only thing giving me problem
[19:12] <Peace-> amarok can play files like ogg that are free
[19:12] <Peace-> Chaos2358: on kubuntu amarok just work good
[19:12] <Chaos2358> Peace-,  but why won't it? the only thing it will recognize is aac
[19:12] <Peace-> because here we install kubuntu-restricted-estras
[19:12] <Peace-> that is different
[19:13] <Peace-> from ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:13] <Chaos2358> Peace-,  well i guess its a cross platform issue then
[19:13] <Chaos2358> what is difference in ubuntu and kubuntu?
[19:14] <Peace-> kde +kernel buntu = kubuntu
[19:14] <Peace-> gnome +kernel buntu = ubuntu
[19:14] <Chaos2358> gotcha
[19:14] <Peace-> it's not cross platform
[19:14] <Peace-> omg
[19:14] <Peace-> draik: can you run kdesudo k3b
[19:14] <Peace-> try with that
[19:16] <RLa> where should i put # mount ... commands for custom file systems?
[19:16] <Peace-> eh?
[19:16] <RLa> directly into mtab?
[19:16] <Peace-> fstab?
[19:17] <RLa> oh yes
[19:17] <Peace-> you mean fstab?
[19:17] <RLa> thanks
[19:17] <RLa> yes
[19:17] <RLa> mtab has currently mounted file systems?
[19:26] <gecko_> Hi
[19:27] <ironfroggy> Anyone have tips on diagnosing why analog mics wont record, but a usb one will?
[19:32] <tim> Hello?  First time on IRC and new to Kubuntu...
[19:34] <MikHel> Hi!
[19:34] <MikHel> Hi tim!
[19:34] <tim> Can I ask for help with a problem?
[19:34] <MikHel> Sure
[19:35] <tim> 3 days into my first experience with Linux/Kubuntu 10.10.  When I run software update I get that it cannot get an exclusive lock...E: Error http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security Release.gpg
[19:35] <tim> Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:36] <tim> I've searched the internet but can find a way to resolve it...
[19:36] <MikHel> Do you have network connection on that computer?
[19:36] <tim> That's what I'm on right now so yes.
[19:37] <tim> Wireless is running at 2 MBit/s or I can connect via ethernet.
[19:37] <MikHel> I have not installed 10.10 yet. Still on 10.4 mostly
[19:37] <tim> Do you think you can help?
[19:38] <MikHel> Do you have another software install program running at the same time? The software update message you have used to be what I'd see if I was running synaptic at the same time.
[19:38] <tim> Right now I have Firefox and Thunderbird open.  That should be it.
[19:40] <MikHel> Hmmmm. And how do you run software update?
[19:40] <tim> I am trying to run it through the KPackageKit
[19:41] <tim> It actually shows that I have 15 updates but once I say ok to the error message I can't find a way to allow them to update
[19:41] <TNZ_> hi tim
[19:41] <tim> Hi
[19:41] <TNZ_> have you installed synaptic ?
[19:42] <tim> What is synaptic and how do I install it?  I've only been off of Windows for about 3 or 4 days... :(
[19:42] <tim> Can I install it through the KPackageKit?
[19:42] <TNZ_> oka ... let's go smart
[19:43] <TNZ_> first, open a terminal and run the following command
[19:43] <TNZ_> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:43] <TNZ_> answer the question
[19:43] <MikHel> TNZ_: Not sure installing synaptic would help him.
[19:44] <MikHel> He may have two KPackageKit running...
[19:44] <tim> Run Synaptic Update?  Yes or No?
[19:44] <MikHel> tim: you run KPackageKit from the main menu? Or from some window that appears automatically telling you updates are available?
[19:45] <TNZ_> should be, but synaptic manages coorectly all dist-upgrade stuffs ... and with two packagekit running, i'd say logoff/logon
[19:45] <tim> From the main menu.  I also see the update icon in the tray.  Both say I have 15 updates but I have the error on the one through the main menu
[19:46] <MikHel> tim: try the one from the icon tray
[19:46] <MikHel> after exiting the other one.
[19:46] <TNZ_> tim, try to manage kpackagekit before trying synaptic :)
[19:47] <tim> I had never noticed the one in the tray before now.  It seems to be updating.
[19:47] <MikHel> Does anybody know how to start a daemon at bootup that would not run as root?
[19:47] <MikHel> tim: There you go. We did help ;)
[19:47] <BluesKaj> tim, open kpackagekit and look for the source repository listed in the error and remove it , or look in software sources and do the same
[19:48] <tim> That seemed to do it.  Thanks.
[19:49] <TNZ_> mikhel : you write the script call as this :  su - TheUsernameYouWant -c "TheGreatCommandEver"
[19:49] <BluesKaj> tim, seemed isn't  sure enough , try sudo apt-get update in the terminal , to make sure
[19:49] <tim> One more question....  I have Firefox installed as my browser but have no Icon to start it with.  I have to search for it through the search bar in the main menu.  It shows me a sprocket and Firefox that I can click to open it.  Any way I can get an icon into the main menu?
[19:50] <MikHel> TNZ_: but does the init system still understand that TheGreatCommandEver is a daemon or does it think su should be a daemon?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> tim, right click oin the icon in the menu and choose "add to panel "
[19:51] <TNZ_> let me see ...
[19:51] <MikHel> TNZ_: I had thought of that idea but since there is no discussion of it in the man page of init, I have the feeling that init may not understand that it does not need to follow su but the command. Or does su simply exec itself into the command and thus there is no problem?
[19:52] <tim> back to the update problem...  This is what I got...  Fetched 198B in 15s (13B/s)
[19:52] <tim> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'extras.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:52] <tim> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:52] <tim> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[19:52] <FloodBotK1> tim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:52] <tim> Sorry about that
[19:52] <BluesKaj> tim, I'll repeat : open kpackagekit and look for the source repository listed in the error and remove it , or look in software sources and do the same
[19:53] <palqka> tim try to change to main server
[19:53] <palqka> or give it to choose the best for you
[19:53] <MikHel> tim: Can you upen 'extra.ubuntu.com' and security.ubuntu.com in a browser?
[19:53] <tim> I have KPackageKit open.  How do I find the source repository?
[19:54] <tim> Is /dists/maverick the repository?
[19:54] <TNZ_> I mikhel : I was thinking about simple scripts you find in /etc/rc*.d or /etc/init.d ... you add "su -" stuff in this king of scripts
[19:55]  * palqka 
[19:55] <MikHel> TNZ_: I know but I want to shift away from init.d since that is what ubuntu is doing.
[19:55] <tim> I can open security.ubuntu.com yes
[19:56] <TNZ_> yep, I known ... may be in the man pages of "service" command ?
[19:56] <MikHel> TNZ_: reading what the man page of su says, it starts a shell in which it executes the command, so I fear init will not follow to the actual executable
[19:58] <tim> what next?
[19:59] <TNZ_> MikHel, I just read le service manpage, in fact it refers to /etc/init.d scripts ... no more idea :/
[19:59] <TNZ_> -le +the
[20:00] <ouba> hello
[20:00] <TNZ_> hi
[20:00] <TNZ_> tim, can you try the second URL
[20:00] <TNZ_> ?
[20:01] <ouba> if someone use kdenlive, could you export to format with mp3 ?
[20:01] <ouba> when I try one of them, it claims libmp3lame is not availble
[20:01] <tim> I get an error can't find www.extra.ubuntu.com
[20:03] <BluesKaj> tim, choose settings , then find the repository ending with gpg if it exists , how it could have got there is a mystery
[20:03] <TNZ_> normal, the server does not exist
[20:03] <ouba> I searched on various ubuntu forums or directly on kdenlive website, with no success :(
[20:05] <tim> I don't see anything with gpg in it...
[20:08] <TNZ_> tim, find the repository using extra.ubuntu.com and uncheck the line ... it's gonna be removed from the list currently in use
[20:08] <TNZ_> and then you could update normally
[20:10] <BajK_> Is it possible that I buy another graphics card to attach a third monitor to my computer?
[20:10] <BajK_> with Kubuntu
[20:10] <tim> There are 2: deb and deb-src both with the same line - extras.ubuntu.comubuntu/maverick main.  Should I uncheck them both?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> tim,, could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list pls.
[20:11] <BluesKaj> oops , gotta , ups guy is here wth my new grphics card ...bbl
[20:11] <TNZ_> yes tim, uncheck the 2
[20:13] <tim> I ran software update after I unchecked them but still get "Error htp//securityubuntu.com moverick-security Release.gpg
[20:14] <TNZ_> tim ... mOverick ?
[20:14] <tim> sorry...  Maverick-security Release.gpg
[20:17] <TNZ_> weird ... I'm using ubuntu 10.4 and a full depository update goes like an arrow ... maybe, because you're using 10.10 and there are several guys updating ? :/
[20:19] <BajK_> hm, I am going to put another nvidia graphics card in my pc and attach another 24 inch monitor
[20:19] <palqka> u sounds like zombie
[20:19] <palqka> :D
[20:21] <tim> I don't know.  10.10 seems more stable than 10.4 did.  I had lots of trouble when I tried 10.4.  Very minor problems with 10.10.  It's been running well for 4 days and that's 3 days longer than I ever got the 3 times I tried to install 10.4
[20:22] <MikHel> TNZ_: I was going about it the wrong way. The executable I want to run has a -u and -g flag to specify under what userid and groupid it runs :)
[20:25] <TNZ_> MikHel > Great !
[20:25] <MikHel> Going to reboot to make sure it starts alright :-D See you guys after this short break!
[20:35] <MikHel> TNZ_: It worked perfectly! :D
[20:49] <ouba> for information, on ubuntu, we need to activate medibuntu reposity and install those version of mpeg, etc ...
[20:49] <ouba> bye
[20:50] <tuspas> hy guys can someone please help me get my umts modem get working on my eeepc ?
[20:50] <tuspas> i think i configured the networkmanager right
[20:50] <tuspas> but i cant gat a connection
[20:53] <silentz0r> Hello, after updating today (I think my kernel was updated as well) I am having trouble with the Nvidia graphics.
[20:54] <silentz0r> I tried nvidia-xconfig, but it didn't work, i tried disabling and re-enabling the Nvidia drivers, didn't work
[20:55] <tuspas> what problems you exactly have ?
[20:56] <silentz0r> well, no desktop effects, no accelerated graphics
[20:56] <silentz0r> even though the Nvidia drivers seem to be Active
[20:57] <tuspas> nvidia-settings ?
[20:57] <silentz0r> what about it?
[20:58] <tuspas> try this out if you cansee ther somefing
[20:58] <silentz0r> nothing useful so far, detects my graphics card
[21:00] <silentz0r> brb
[21:01] <bepraaa> Hey guys, I'm currently on 10.04 and have been awaiting the upgrade to 10.10.
[21:02] <bepraaa> When it didn't pop up a message to ask me to upgrade (as it's been doing as long as I can remember),
[21:02] <bepraaa> I tried to use apt to do it manually.
[21:03] <bepraaa> But it appears that 10.10 STILL hasn't hit the repos.
[21:03] <silentz0r> back, i just restarted my machine and it showed me this big splash screen saying "Nvidia Beta Driver"
[21:03] <bepraaa> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[21:08] <silentz0r> so anyone else having graphics issues after updating kubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:08] <bepraaa> Not I.
[21:08] <bepraaa> But while you're here, how did you update?
[21:08] <silentz0r> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[21:08] <bepraaa> My system hasn't popped up the notice yet, and my attempts to cajole it have failed.
[21:09] <bepraaa> I have tried those numerous times.
[21:09] <bepraaa> As well as dist-upgrade.
[21:11] <Diziara> bepraaa, try the info on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu
[21:17] <silentz0r> actually, i have noticed that my system was acting weird yesterday as well
[21:17] <silentz0r> graphics-wise
[21:18] <walrus> Hello everyone :-) I'm on a fresh install of Kubuntu 10.10, and I'm experiencing a little problem running AWN: "glib.GError: Icon 'gtk-missing-image' not present in theme"... What I could figure out on forums is that oxygen theme, which is the default KDE theme I presume, is missing this icon... anyone knows anything about that?
[21:23] <bepraaa> Diziara: Thanks, I'll take a look at that.
[21:23] <bepraaa> walrus: You could try adding the icon manually or switching themes.
[21:25] <bepraaa> Diziara: Fixed it thanks a bunch!
[21:25] <walrus> bepraaa: hum I'd prefer adding it manually, could you point me out on how to do this? I'm farily new to linux :p
[21:26] <walrus> but why would this so important icon be missing from such a largely used theme as oxygen?
[21:27] <bepraaa> I don't know how one would add it manually...
[21:28] <bepraaa> I don't know why it's missing from the theme...it may be that there is a path problem or a typo somewhere.
[21:29] <walrus> I see... I choose Kubuntu over Ubuntu mainly to have KDE+oxygen, what a shame...
[21:34] <bepraaa> I would google up a way to add it manually before you do anything else.
[21:34] <tim> Can anyone tell me how to get the firefox shortcut into the panel.  I installed it through the KPackageKit but I can't find it in the panel
[21:35] <bepraaa> It's in your menu.
[21:35] <bepraaa> Just drag it from there to where ever you want it.
[21:37] <bepraaa> But, if you mean it's not in the menu either, you'll have to right click on the "K" button
[21:37] <bepraaa> and select the menu editor.
[21:38] <bepraaa> Then you just add an entry and put "firefox" as the command.
[21:44] <tim> I tried that.  It doesn't open it up.  Do I need to enter  a working path?
[21:48] <bepraaa> Try running firefox in a terminal.
[21:54] <tim> that doesn't work.  Is there more to the command than just Firefox or a path?
[21:57] <bepraaa> Nope.
[21:57] <bepraaa> Every command should just work.
[21:57] <bepraaa> Does it say "command not found" or something else?
[21:58] <Mamarok> tim: tried mozilla in krunner? (Alt+F2)
[21:59] <Mamarok> the executable is called mozilla-firefox IIRC
[22:06] <bepraaa> "firefox" always worked for me, except on the unbranded packages.
[22:12] <tim> I must be missing something because it doesn't seem to work.  If I search in the K menu it shows a sproket with Firefox and I can left click and run it but I can't right click it or drag it anywhere
[22:15] <James147> tim: what are you tring to do exactly? (and what isent working?)
[22:17] <tim> James147: I installed Firefox thru the KPackageKit.  I can't find the shortcut or executable anywhere to add to the K Menu.  I can however open the K Menu and search for Firefox.  It shows me a sprocket and says  Firefox.  I can click and run it but I can't right click it or drag it anywhere.
[22:19] <tim> James147:  I am pretty good with computers but am only 4 days into my Kubuntu experience...
[22:19] <James147> tim: what version of kbuntu do you ajhve?
[22:19] <tim> 10.10
[22:20] <James147> s/ajhve/have/
[22:20] <James147> tim: and I take it you installed "Firefox Web Browser" from kpackagekit?
[22:20] <tim> yes
[22:24] <tim> tim: test
[22:24] <James147> tim: can you paste the output of "dpkg --status firefox | grep Status" ?
[22:25] <tim> do you want me to type that into a terminal or a run command?
[22:25] <James147> tim: terminal
[22:27] <tim> James147: it says "Ok Installed" unless I typed something wrong.  Should it have come back with more?
[22:27] <James147> tim: nop, thats what I was looking for :)   (note the grep part fo the command filters the output from dpkg)
[22:28] <James147> tim: and running "firefox" in a terminal launches it?
[22:28] <tim> I have to run.  Back in 15 or 20 if u r still here.  Thanks
[22:33] <pegasusbil> has enyone successfully installed kubuntu on a netbook?
[22:34] <James147> pegasusbil: why? are you having problems? (have done it on my asus eeepc 1005ha)
[22:39] <James147> !pm | pegasusbil
[22:40] <pegasusbil> sorry i am new using irc
[22:40] <James147> pegasusbil: np, how long is it taking? and ahs it stalled at a spific point?
[22:41] <pegasusbil> it does stall during installation...tapping enter gets it running again, after 40 min  i gave up
[22:43] <James147> pegasusbil: :S did you select to download the updates and extra packages during the installer?
[22:44] <pegasusbil> yes
[22:44] <James147> pegasusbil: when you didnt have a internet connection?
[22:44] <pegasusbil> yes
[22:44] <James147> ...
[22:45] <James147> pegasusbil: try it again :) this time dont tell it to download things if it dosent have an  internet connection
[22:46] <pegasusbil> i will give it another try.....i have it running on dell xps1210 right now, but i want the battery life of a netbook
[22:48] <James147> pegasusbil: you wont get the battery life of a netbook just by isntalling software...
[22:50] <pegasusbil> i realize that, i rather use my netbook instead of this dell LT which I am runnig now
[22:50] <James147> pegasusbil: o you ahve a seprate netbook :)
[22:51] <pegasusbil> yes
[22:52] <pegasusbil> i am reinstalling on the netbook as we speak
[22:58] <pulaski> Hi, I run kubuntu 10.04 LTS lucid linux and I recently upgraded to kde 4.5.1. After the upgrade every time I login to kde kde now runs a program called kdesudo that opens 2 dialog boxes that prompt me for my password again, one after the other so I have to enter it twice. This makes 3 times I have to login. I'd like to skip these 2 extra logins. Does anyone have any ideas how to do this?
[22:59] <James147> pulaski: what program is kdesudo trying to execte?
[22:59] <backros> hello, i was on ubuntu 10.04 trying to apt-get intall something, and my computer froze so i restarted it, and now i get an 'initramfs' shell at boot i don't know why :( i can access my linux partition /dev/sda5 with ext2explore when i'm on windows
[23:00] <James147> backros: how full is the drive/
[23:00] <pulaski> thanks for responding James147, nice to see you again. I'm unsure  which program kdesudo is trying to execute. I havn't noticed anything other than kdesudo on the title bar of the dialog boxes.
[23:01] <backros> James147, the linux partition? how can i know from there?
[23:01] <James147> pulaski: kdesudo should tell you inside the dialog
[23:01] <pulaski> I'll look again thanks.
[23:02] <pulaski> James147: i'll look again thanks.
[23:02] <backros> James147, it shouldn't be full anyway
[23:03] <James147> backros: easiest way would be to boot into a live cd mount the drive and run "df -l"
[23:03] <bepraaa> backros: You might try looking at the kernel log in the initramfs shell.
[23:03] <bepraaa> IDK what the command for that is though.
[23:03] <bepraaa> "dmesg" might also give some info.
[23:04] <backros> the thing is that i don't have two computers so i must reboot to try what you say
[23:04] <backros> so i'll try dmesg, and something else?
[23:04] <bepraaa> I was afraid of that...
[23:04] <bepraaa> Well, if you find yourself rebooting for some reason, take a few seconds to read the logs ;)
[23:05] <bepraaa> You can use less to read them from /var/log.
[23:05] <bepraaa> gtg guys, see you later.
[23:06] <backros> James147, since i don't have a live cd right now, do you have any other suggestion for the initramfs shell besides dmesg and /var/log?
[23:07] <backros> i'll try these for now
[23:14] <tim> James147:  Still around?
[23:14] <James147> yup
[23:15] <James147> tim: I take running "firefox" in a terminal launches it?
[23:15] <tim> I can't run Firefox from a terminal.  If I click on the K Menu and type Firefox in the search bar it shows a sprocket and Firefox and I can left click and run it but I cannot left click or drag it.
[23:16] <tim> James147: sorry I meant - I cannot Right click or drag it.
[23:16] <James147> tim: what error do you get when you try running it from terminal?
[23:17] <James147> (note that its "firefox" with a lowercase F)
[23:17] <sh1ft3d> did you check the last time the firefox file was modified?
[23:17] <backros> some of the error messages i get before the initramfs shell appears are: "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at..."; "mount /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory" (same for /sys and /proc); "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" "no init found trying init= bootarg"; then i found nothing particular in dmesg (i wouldn't know even if there was) and /var/log doesn't exist
[23:18] <sh1ft3d> Hmmm, thats crazy
[23:18] <James147> backros: have you tried an older kernel?
[23:18] <tim> James147: it doesn't do anything from a terminal. The prompt just sits there.
[23:19] <sh1ft3d> Does the username and host machine appear?
[23:19] <tim> Sh1ft3d: I removed and installed it again today.
[23:19] <James147> tim: whats the output of "which 'firefox'"?
[23:19] <backros> James147, i removed all the old kernels from the grub editor :( but i think some of them are still installed
[23:20] <tim> James147: I don't understand "which 'firefox'" please be more specific.  Do you want me to type that into a terminal?
[23:20] <sh1ft3d> type in ps
[23:20] <James147> tim: in a terminal type:     which 'firefox'
[23:20] <sh1ft3d> and see if any firefox processes are running
[23:20] <backros> James147, /boot appears empty from ext2explore
[23:21] <tim> James147: it says    usr/bin/firefox
[23:23] <James147> tim: what happens if you run:   /usr/bin/firefox   ?
[23:26] <backros> no other idea?
[23:26] <ranmaruhibikiya> Hi ppl
[23:27] <ranmaruhibikiya> I have a problem with kubuntu 10.10, showing japanese chars on gtk apps
[23:27] <ranmaruhibikiya> kubuntu 10.04 works great with it, but this new one...
[23:28] <ranmaruhibikiya> I'm using UIM
[23:28] <tim> That did it!  I also went to menu editor and modified the command line.  Fantastic, thanks for your help!
[23:29] <James147> tim: not sure why just running 'firefox' dident work...
[23:29] <James147> tim: whats the output of:   echo "$PATH"     ?
[23:31] <James147> tim: I would also look inside ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu   and see if it contains firefox.desktop ... that stores all the changes between the system and your menus
[23:31] <tim> how do I paste it to the screen?  Last time I tried I got a message from FloodBot
[23:31] <James147> !pastebin | tim
[23:32] <James147> tim: pasteing about 2-3 lines if ine though
[23:32] <tim> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:33] <James147> tim: :) you need to hit paste! then copy the link of the age it takes yo to :)
[23:34] <tim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[23:35] <tim> Sorry I'm missing a step but the end of that is the result of the echo "$PATH" command
[23:36] <James147> tim: that looks fine... still dosent explain why '/usr/bin/firefox' works ad just 'firefox' hangs :S
[23:36] <tim> James147: I have to run again to pick up my son.  I'll look through the menus as you suggested.  Thanks for you help.
[23:37] <rysiek|pl> James147, tim: `which firefox` -> run in terminal
[23:37] <pulaski> James147: Hi again, I think I discovered more or less what's happening. KdeSudo is asking for permission to mount two of several devices I have configured on my box.
[23:41] <pulaski> James147: I'm unsure which devices kdesudo is asking permission for but I can live with the extra logins for now. My config is complicated so I'll have to do more analyis.
[23:42] <James147> pulaski: if you want to mount drives on boot the best place is to add an entry for them in /etc/fstab
[23:45] <pulaski> James147: Thanks for responding. I'm happy with my fstab and all my devices are mounting correctly. Like I said, my config is complicated so I'l live with the logins for now. BTW you may recall a clipboard problem I was having the last time we spoke. It was a bug. After a couple of updates things just started working correctly again. Thanks for all your help.
[23:45] <Mamarok> why not setting that in the System Settings? Easier to do than editing fstab
[23:46] <Mamarok> SystemSettings -> Removable Devices
[23:47] <James147> Mamarok: because editing it in system settings does it on a peruser basis, /etc/fstab does it during the eairly boot stages
[23:47] <James147> (hence the asking for the password after login)
[23:48] <pulaski> James147: Near as I can figure.
[23:48] <otswim> hi: i'm trying to upgrade to 10.10 with this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu but i can't do step 2: i don't have such a menu in kpackagekit
[23:49] <otswim> these
[23:49] <James147> otswim: what version are you on?
[23:49] <otswim> 10.04
[23:50] <James147> otswim: run this in a terminal: "sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade"
[23:50] <otswim> James147: i have some GPG errors with 'update', should i fix them first?
[23:51] <James147> otswim: for what repo
[23:52] <otswim> James147: actually now i've got this error message: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/277204/
[23:53] <James147> otswim: you connected to the internet?
[23:53] <otswim> yes
[23:54] <otswim> James147: sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[23:54] <James147> otswim: to fix that error you could try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4952791&postcount=10
[23:55] <James147> (the previous one that is)
[23:55] <otswim> James147: it "fetched" successfully
[23:56] <James147> otswim: as for the do-relea... try: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal