[00:00] <seidos> there's a logic to it
[00:00] <|friTTe|> =)
[00:01] <|friTTe|> but isnt it strange that if i choose s and then tab i wont get to choose
[00:01] <|friTTe|> it simply pastes all of them in to the channel
[00:02] <Cheri703> we don't see them
[00:02] <Cheri703> only you see them
[00:02] <Cheri703> you do get to choose
[00:02] <Cheri703> it is consolidating them so you see them in front of you
[00:03] <|friTTe|> ahh ok
[00:03] <|friTTe|> well then its cool
[00:03] <|friTTe|> hehe i was like "omg mass highlightning"
[00:03] <Cheri703> yeah, people would DEFINITELY let you know if it was doing that
[00:03] <|friTTe|> yeah i was actually waiting for that
[00:04] <|friTTe|> hahaha well well, switched computers couple of hours ago and this was new, well seems its sorted
[00:04] <seidos> |friTTe|, no, it's telling you to be more specific.  you can type se + tab and choose.
[00:05] <seidos> or sa + tab, or sh + tab etc
[00:05] <|friTTe|> ah ok
[00:05] <|friTTe|> thx for the help with this hhee
[00:05] <seidos> oh yeah, it's not actually printing that to the channel
[00:05] <seidos> no problem :)
[00:05] <|friTTe|> well thats good
[00:05] <|friTTe|> hehe
[00:06] <seidos> if anyone has any ideas for investigating chrome and pulseaudio i'm open to recommendations :)
[00:06] <|friTTe|> pulseaudio can be a pain
[00:06] <seidos> currently, it appears chrome is accessing sound hardware directly, or perhaps through alsa.  either way, it isn't choosing pulseaudio like the gstreamer apps i have
[00:06] <seidos> |friTTe|, yeah, that's what everyone keeps telling me
[00:07] <|friTTe|> yeah
[00:08] <|friTTe|> on this one it works awesome, on my other deskie im using a keyboard with a built in soundcard cause of the crappy sound
[00:08] <slooksterpsv> oddly pulseaudio and chrome work well for me : seidos
[00:10] <seidos> slooksterpsv, yeah, it used to work for me.  but recording didn't work.  so i installed a new alsa version.  i'm using 1.0.22.1 now.  cat /proc/asound/version to find out
[00:11] <slooksterpsv> seidos: would that be why sometimes my audio gets staticy is cause of pulse audio?
[00:11] <seidos> slooksterpsv, not sure.  there's the driver (module), alsa, and pulseaudio O_o
[00:12] <seidos> i suspect finding where the problem is in that chain isn't that easy
[00:12] <seidos> i think windows was "easier" because of the windows api.  it was like driver or api...pretty much it.  or hardware problem O_o
[00:12] <seidos> sorry, i said the "w" word.  what kind of sound card slooksterpsv?
[00:13] <slooksterpsv> uh... let me check haha
[00:13] <seidos> i have some integrated intel chip...uses snd-hda-intel driver
[00:13] <slooksterpsv> SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[00:14] <slooksterpsv> I have to modify my alsa-base.conf to get my headphone jack to work snd-hda-intel....
[00:22] <phillw> seidos: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 is a great place to start, there are excellent stickies on there and you can search through the postings.
[00:24] <seidos> phillw, i'll look at it, but honestly, i think my set up is too unique.  i probably should create a bug in launchpad, but i'm not sure what package to make it against
[00:26] <phillw> seidos: it's always worth making a post on there, it may not be as unique as you think. Us people have some quite wierd rigs and kit :)
[00:26] <seidos> hmm, google's search for site: http://www.ubuntuforums.org chrome pulseaudio alsa is pulling up sites aside from ubuntuforums.org O_o
[00:26] <phillw> seidos: there is a search within the forum area :)
[00:26] <seidos> phillw, ah, making a post and searching for an answer, different story.  all right, i'll make a post.
[00:27] <phillw> there is also advanced search that will hunt across all of the ubuntu forums for you.
[00:36] <seidos> phillw, so you're saying google searching the site is inferior to advanced search?  or the same?  or...
[00:36] <seidos> searching = search
[00:37] <phillw> you can use google, provided you know how to use the + flag
[00:39] <phillw> <I have a problem +ubuntu> forces google to return the results that have ubuntu in them. you can also use the - flag to narrow things down as it then does not use them.
[00:40] <phillw> seidos: don't use the <>, that was just there to quote it up for you.
[00:43] <seidos> phillw, ah, yeah, i've used the + flag.  i thought the site: option was more precise.
[00:43] <seidos> i've also been told not to use articles that aren't ubuntu related...
[00:44] <phillw> seidos: in the advanced search on the forum area you can get a pretty good hit, but ubuntu forums are not the only source of information.
[00:45] <seidos> phillw, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9988670#post9988670
[00:46] <seidos> that's the thread i created
[00:46] <phillw> seidos: places like http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ and http://psychocats.net/ can also be trusted. If in any doubt, just post it up and some will have a look at it for you.
[00:46] <seidos> yeah, ubuntu wiki, ubuntu help documentation, and forums.  that pretty much covers authentic locations.  ubuntugeek.com and psychocats huh?
[00:46] <seidos> okay
[00:47] <seidos> well, i'll see if i get a response on the thread.  i have two other forum posts that didn't get nary a response
[00:47] <seidos> not a big deal though
[00:47] <phillw> psychocats is run by one of the forum staffers, so he's pretty darn trustworthy :)
[00:48] <phillw> I've never seen any bad info on ubuntugeek either in the years I've been using it as a reference.
[00:48] <phillw> bad as in malicious commands
[00:52]  * seidos nods
[00:56] <johnny77> alt+f2 bring up the run menu program, but in UNR it doesn't work. Is there another way to start that run program?
[01:00] <dusting010> can anyone help me here? #ubuntu did not respond to me :(
[01:02] <phillw> !topic
[01:02] <ubot2> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:02] <dusting010> lol sry, my desktop folders open fine but the folders under "places" dont do anything and when downloads finally decides to respond, vlc pops up and plays the media inside that folder :(
[01:02] <phillw> dusting010: don't wait to ask to ask a question :)
[01:02] <slooksterpsv> !ask
[01:02] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[01:02] <slooksterpsv> hehe
[01:03] <slooksterpsv> why do we have ubot2, others have ubottu
[01:06] <johnny77> is it better to install a program from the website or from the repositories?
[01:06] <slooksterpsv> johnny77 - repositories
[01:06] <jdeslip> repositories
[01:06] <slooksterpsv> dusting010 - hmmm... looking into that
[01:07] <jdeslip> johnn77 - that way you will get automatic updates in the future etc...
[01:07] <johnny77> Just curious, but why?
[01:07] <jdeslip> and it is guaranteed to work with your current version of Ubuntu.
[01:07] <johnny77> jdeslip: sorry didn't see the answer before I hit enter.
[01:08] <jdeslip> johnn77: no problem
[01:09] <dusting010> my thoughts were that i somehow managed to set the items in "places" to open in vlc, but idk how thats even possible for a noob like me and if it were idk how to undo that :(
[01:10] <dusting010> ....
[01:10] <dusting010> fail
[01:10] <jdeslip> dusting010: When you click places->home does a folder open up?
[01:11] <jdeslip> or is that failing too?
[01:11] <dusting010> no, vlc pops up and plays my music
[01:11] <phillw> slooksterpsv: ubottu has several 'clones' to look after different rooms, they are linked. https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IRC/Bots they just share the load out.
[01:12] <dusting010> ... idk why but everything under 'places' either doesnt respond or opens media in vlc...
[01:12] <dusting010> the stuff on my desktop opens fine >.<
[01:13] <phillw> slooksterpsv: for example, in #lubuntu we have ubot5
[01:13] <dusting010> i've tried reinstalling Nautilus but that solved nothing btw
[01:13] <slooksterpsv> dusting010
[01:14] <slooksterpsv> got it, remove the items from the left-hand side in nautilus then re add them
[01:15] <slooksterpsv> well remove the stuff under the separator, e.g. Documents, Music, Pictures, videos, Downloads, etc.
[01:15] <slooksterpsv> then drag and drop that folder back onto the left-hand side and it should fix the places menu if it doesn't make sure you can get into said folders
[01:16] <dusting010> how do i remove them, sry noob here
[01:16] <slooksterpsv> drag and drop them off
[01:17] <dusting010> when i dragg&drop it off the window, nothing happens, it stays in that sidebar thing
[01:17] <jdeslip> If that doesn't work try the following links: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575013
[01:18] <jdeslip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966737&highlight=vlc
[01:18] <slooksterpsv> *sorry right-click remove
[01:21] <jdeslip> slooksterpsv, dusting010: those links would have you right click on a folder in nautilus and then select "open with..." then change the default.
[01:21] <slooksterpsv> oh ok
[01:22] <dusting010> so what is the correct default?
[01:22] <johnny77> what are schema?
[01:23] <jdeslip> dusting010: "File Browser" I think
[01:30] <dusting010> ...... things have gotten worse..... desktop folders have disappeared and i still cant correctly open items under places.... QQ
[01:32] <dusting010> brb
[01:33] <johnny77> UNR uses Unity while the desktop version uses another type of interface program right?
[01:39] <dusting010> k, the places problem has been solved but now i have  a new problem :(
[01:39] <dusting010> now the a folder i have on my desktop is acting weird, its a folder that contains folders
[01:40] <dusting010> when i open that folder and right click a folder in that new window, the window closes :(
[01:41] <dusting010> but doing this same thing by opening it from 'places' does not cause it to close, im soo confused
[01:51] <johnny77> According to software center I have netbook launcher efl installed. If I uninstalled unity would the netbook launcher be automatically loaded upon rebooting?
[01:55] <dusting010> why does the window look different when i open my external from my desktop an 'places'
[01:55] <dusting010> *and
[01:57] <johnny77> I ran netbook-launcher-efl from terminal now I have the old netbook launcher from 10.04 in side of unity.
[02:08] <dusting010> nautilus crashes when i right-click a folder... plz help
[02:09] <Cheri703> johnny77: netbook-launcher-efl gives you the old launcher?
[02:10] <Cheri703> dusting010: are you on a desktop or laptop?
[02:10] <dusting010> desktop
[02:11] <Cheri703> k, try unplugging your keyboard and doing whatever is being stupid
[02:13] <Cheri703> and then plug it back in and report :)
[02:14] <dusting010> how would that help? oh and this only happens when i navigate from desktop, navigating from places and then r clicking doesnt cause me to crash
[02:14] <Cheri703> to me it sounds like a key is being pressed and interacting with the mouse click (could be totally wrong)
[02:14] <Cheri703> just a "rule it out" step
[02:14] <Cheri703> easy to check
[02:14] <Cheri703> I know I've had crazy behavior from my comp because a key was sticking or something
[02:15] <dusting010> lol yeah i c, but its ruled out by the fact that it only happens when i open a folder from my desktop and r click a folder in that new window.....
[02:16] <Cheri703> if you open nautilus from terminal does it work fine?
[02:16] <dusting010> idk how to do that
[02:16] <Cheri703> open terminal
[02:16] <Cheri703> type "nautilus"
[02:17] <Cheri703> or even alt f2 and type nautilus
[02:19] <dusting010> it opens, but when i right click a folder in there it crashes. also, the window for the opened folder looks different when i open from desktop than it does from places, i have nautilus elementary installed
[02:19] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[02:20] <Cheri703> can you try reverting to regular nautilus? (I don't know anything about the elementary thing)
[02:20] <dusting010> lol idk lemme try :)
[02:21] <dusting010> still the same :( and apparently it crashes whenever i right click anything inside the new window :(
[02:21] <Cheri703> hmm...
[02:21] <Cheri703> weird
[02:21] <Cheri703> let me ask a friend of mine, hang on
[02:22] <dusting010> lol kk, is there any way to restore all settings back to the default, i.e. as if it were a fresh install
[02:23] <Cheri703> will check
[02:24] <Cheri703> ok, so I'm being told how to reset stuff (anyone else can verify, but I trust the source)
[02:24] <Cheri703> is this happening on the computer you're currently using?
[02:25] <Cheri703> like to chat?
[02:25] <dusting010> yes
[02:26] <Cheri703> ok, then write this down and try it: reset to basic config -> log out, go to a text console (ctrl-Alt f1 ) log in and rm -rf .gnome2 and any other gnome-looking hidden dir, then ctrl alt f7 to return to graphical login and login, will be back to gnome basics apparently
[02:26] <Cheri703> does that make sense at all?
[02:26] <johnny77> cheri703: yes, it appears so. I'm gonna try uninstall unity. I've already put netbook-launcher-efl in the startup apps. hope it will work.
[02:26] <Cheri703> ooo, nice
[02:26] <Cheri703> I HATE unity
[02:27] <Cheri703> so I've been sticking with 10.04, so I will try that soon
[02:28] <dusting010> lol rm=remove, so u want me to get rid of .rf and .gnome2 files right?
[02:28] <Cheri703> rm -rf is the command, .gnome2 is the folder
[02:28] <Cheri703> "rm -rf"
[02:29] <dusting010> kk brb
[02:29] <Cheri703> wait!
[02:29] <Cheri703> one other thing to try first
[02:29] <Cheri703> are you still there?
[02:29] <dusting010> yes
[02:29] <Cheri703> ok
[02:29] <Cheri703> my friend suggested creating a new account and testing it there
[02:30] <dusting010> the crash thing?
[02:30] <Cheri703> yeah
[02:30] <johnny77> cheri703: I'm just about to remove unity and reboot. I'll let you know the outcome.
[02:30] <Cheri703> thanks johnny77
[02:30] <dusting010> kk now to figure out how to make a new accoundt?
[02:31] <Cheri703> system > administration > users and groups
[02:31] <Cheri703> or something like that :)
[02:33] <dusting010> kk brb
[02:41] <dusting010> the problem is only w/this account :(
[02:41] <Cheri703> so?
[02:41] <Cheri703> ok
[02:41] <Cheri703> so it was definitely your customization that caused the issue
[02:41] <Cheri703> so then try the rm -rf thing
[02:41] <Cheri703> give me a sec and I will type it out better
[02:41] <dusting010> kk
[02:43] <johnny77> cheri703: success, well sorta.
[02:43] <Cheri703> oh?
[02:43] <dusting010> ...
[02:44] <Cheri703> hang on dusting010, I'm getting there
[02:44] <dusting010> lol
[02:44] <Cheri703> :)
[02:44] <johnny77> cheri: I now have netbook launcher in 10.04, but it did not come up with any panels. So I ran gnome-panel. I kinda have a mix of netbook and desktop. weird. Also I don't know if there will be any update repercussions.
[02:45] <dusting010> man switching over has been a journey but at least i have u guys for support :)
[02:45] <Cheri703> hmm...odd
[02:47] <johnny77> cheri703: I would assume that the netbook launcher had a panel system to go with it, but I don't know what command it would have been or if I still have said command.
[02:47] <Cheri703> ok dusting010 do you have printing capability?
[02:47] <dusting010> lol no
[02:47] <Cheri703> ok, then copy it down carefully :)
[02:48] <dusting010> kk
[02:48] <Cheri703> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nN5E24Zr
[02:48] <Cheri703> johnny77: that makes sense, I'll take a look
[02:51] <dusting010> so typing rm -rf will tell me to select .gnome2 and other .gnome files?
[02:52] <Cheri703> no, the ls -a will show all of the folders/files in the directory
[02:52] <Cheri703> then you choose from that list to know what to put on the rm -rf
[02:52] <Cheri703> sorry, wasn't clear on that
[02:53] <dusting010> lol hope i dont screw up brb
[02:53] <Cheri703> k
[02:53] <Cheri703> good luck
[02:57] <johnny77> is there a way to adjust icon size?
[02:57] <Cheri703> uhm, icon size where?
[02:59] <johnny77> The icons in the netbook launcher are really big. I didn't know if there was a way to make them smaller.
[02:59] <Cheri703> uhm, try this: Start Nautilus file browser, Menu Edit -> Preferences . And try to set icon zoom level in the "Icon View Defaults" section.
[02:59] <Cheri703> supposedly that can help globally
[02:59] <Cheri703> dunno though
[03:01] <dusting010> damn still the same
[03:01] <Cheri703> :(
[03:01] <Cheri703> uhm, perhaps this is simplistic, but can you just copy your crap from your home folder to the one in the new user folder and just delete current user?
[03:02] <Cheri703> did that help johnny77?
[03:03] <dusting010> looks like thats the only way lol its better than having to reinstall, oh well tyvm
[03:08] <johnny77> cheri703: no, it changed all the icons in Nautilus, but not the menu icons. It may just be a feature of the launcher...
[03:08] <Cheri703> :( ok
[03:08] <Cheri703> yeah, they're big
[03:09] <Cheri703> johnny77: this is all I can find thus far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9984913
[03:09] <Cheri703> I think it has to be a hybrid type thing :/
[03:13] <johnny77> cheri703: I'm cool with that. If I was to remove the menus on the gnome-panel how would I get them back if I wanted to.
[03:13] <Cheri703> I think they're referenced in that post
[03:13] <johnny77> ok, must have not read enough... thank you.
[03:14] <Cheri703> np
[03:26] <johnny77> cheri703: I really love this hybrid I created. I just hope i din't crew up the updates too much.
[03:29] <Cheri703> I don't think so, just look over them and if the update is unity, then don't install it?
[03:47] <jinchuuriki> howdy! problems resolved!!!!!!!
[03:48] <johnny77> cheri703: Thanks for the help. gotta run.
[03:48] <Cheri703> sure
[03:48] <Cheri703> have a good night
[03:49] <johnny77> you too
[03:49] <jinchuuriki> yo chri its me dusting 010
[03:49] <jinchuuriki> :)
[03:49] <jinchuuriki> what are cool apps/programs for a new ubuntu user to check out?
[03:49] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[03:49] <Cheri703> uhm, my staples are inkscape, gimp
[03:50] <Cheri703> vlc
[03:50]  * JoeMaverickSett suggest Banshee for music player. :)
[03:50] <Cheri703> I don't do a whole lot of crazy stuff
[03:50] <Cheri703> there are lists upon lists online
[03:53] <jinchuuriki> lol kk what about irc client? which the best?
[03:53] <Cheri703> I use xchat
[03:53] <AbhiJit> xchat
[03:53] <JoeMaverickSett> irssi :P
[03:53] <AbhiJit> quassel
[03:53] <AbhiJit> :P
[03:54] <Cheri703> I think it depends are you using gnome?
[03:54] <AbhiJit> no
[03:54] <Cheri703> there should have been a comma in there
[03:54] <Cheri703> jinchuuriki: are you using gnome?
[03:54] <AbhiJit> you can use any kde ap on gnome
[03:54] <Cheri703> yeah, but it installs a TON of dependencies for ONE app
[03:54] <AbhiJit> whats wrong in it?
[03:55] <jinchuuriki> idk its ubuntu lol linux noob here :)
[03:55] <Cheri703> I'd rather use that space for other things
[03:55] <Cheri703> ok, probably gnome jinchuuriki
[03:55] <Cheri703> as a general rule, unless you want a whole bunch of space taken up by relatively unnecessary stuff, avoid programs that start with K or ones that refer to "kde"
[03:55] <Cheri703> unless you want to use kubuntu, and then go for it
[03:55] <JoeMaverickSett> jinchuuriki: if it is ubuntu = GNOME, kubuntu = KDE, xubuntu = XFCE. :)
[03:56] <AbhiJit> hmm
[03:56] <Cheri703> some people love kde, some people love gnome
[03:56] <AbhiJit> i use quanta plus
[03:56] <AbhiJit> on gnome
[03:56]  * JoeMaverickSett prefers GNOME.
[03:56] <jinchuuriki> @joe: lol ty for the clarification
[03:57] <JoeMaverickSett> jinchuuriki: no problem. ;)
[03:57]  * AbhiJit loves gnome
[03:57]  * JoeMaverickSett hi5 AbhiJit.
[03:57] <AbhiJit> :)
[03:57] <Cheri703> if you guys are ever looking for a ridiculous way to waste time, check out this game: http://www.gamefudge.com/Nex
[03:57] <Cheri703> it's hilarious
[03:58] <jinchuuriki> btw, do i need an anti v for ubuntu?
[03:58] <Cheri703> uhm, not really
[03:59] <AbhiJit> !virus | jinchuuriki
[03:59] <ubot2> jinchuuriki: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[03:59] <AbhiJit> JoeMaverickSett, its mrning here!!! what  about you?
[03:59] <JoeMaverickSett> Cheri703: okie, that game is addictive. :D
[04:00] <JoeMaverickSett> AbhiJit: it's 11am here. :)
[04:00] <Cheri703> heh, yeah
[04:00] <AbhiJit> JoeMaverickSett, :)
[05:25] <evilrobotsquid> Is there anyway besides editing Gnome's Startup Items to speed up Ubuntu Netbook Edition
[05:43] <evilrobotsquid> Anyone here tried out Lubuntu?
[05:49] <bioterror> ofcourse
[05:49] <bioterror> using atm.
[05:50] <evilrobotsquid> bioterror, Are there any special packages I'll need to install if I'm using it on a laptop/netbook?
[05:50] <bioterror> using on laptop and I dont think so
[05:51] <bioterror> works smoothly just out of box
[05:51] <evilrobotsquid> bioterror, I was just wondering about it going into sleep when screen is shut, stuff like that
[05:51] <bioterror> works fine
[05:52] <bioterror> I've disable the screenlock after suspend
[05:52] <bioterror> it's annoying when the xscreensaver asks for the password
[05:52] <evilrobotsquid> bioterror, Cool.  How do you do that?
[05:53] <bioterror> oh
[05:56] <bioterror> hmmm
[05:56] <bioterror> dun see one anymore
[05:56] <bioterror> :-)
[05:57] <bioterror> evilrobotsquid, come to #lubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <bioterror> and we can discuss more later
[05:57] <bioterror> I have to afk becouse I have to go to work now
[05:57] <evilrobotsquid> bioterror, I'm gonna go ahead and throw it on ;)  Thanks though for the recommendation
[05:58] <bioterror> yeah
[05:58] <bioterror> I recommend
[05:58] <bioterror> and if you have some sort of problems with it, now you know from who to ask for help ;)
[08:44] <slidinghorn> Mohan_chml:  whenever you get back, I replied to your email.  Thanks for your interest :)
[08:50] <Mohan_chml> slidinghorn: Hola :)
[08:50] <slidinghorn> Mohan_chml:  howdy :)
[08:50] <Mohan_chml> slidinghorn: -team
[09:24] <Mossyfunk> What's the easiest way to add winxp to grub. I can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst it's not there
[09:25] <Mohan_chml> Mossyfunk: for 9.10 and the other newer versions, it is /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:25] <Mohan_chml> and your windows Is not detected by the grub?
[09:26] <Mossyfunk> installed it after linux on a seperate HDD when the linux one was not plugged in
[09:26] <Mossyfunk> is there some automagic script to search and add it?
[09:27] <Mohan_chml> !grub2
[09:27] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:27] <Mohan_chml> I think it has the link to find the Win partition
[09:27] <Mohan_chml> Mossyfunk: try sudo os-prober and sudo update-grub
[09:27] <Mohan_chml> that will do mostly
[09:29] <Mossyfunk> worked a charm thanks mate =)
[09:37] <Mohan_chml> :)
[10:11] <duanedesign> morning all
[10:12] <slidinghorn> morning duanedesign
[13:33] <simar> hey my live installation in a pendrive is not booting up.. Is there a way that I can enter a recovery mode like we have when we install ubuntu in hard disk.??
[14:30] <sebsebseb> Hi
[14:31] <sujiths80> hi
[14:34] <sebsebseb> sujiths80: hi
[14:39] <tarcisomesquita> How it works?
[14:39] <pedro3005> hello tarcisomesquita
[14:42] <sujiths80> hi
[14:42] <pedro3005> hi  sujiths80
[14:42] <sujiths80> When I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 ,I am not able to see my sda1 partition.
[14:42] <sujiths80> The partition is a NTFS partition
[14:42] <bioterror> hmmm
[14:42] <bioterror> you cannot boot?
[14:43] <bioterror> or you just cant see at all?
[14:43] <sujiths80> I can boot but problem is I lost one partion.My system is a dual boot with Windows vista
[14:43] <bioterror> I think that partition still exists, but it's not in the GRUB menu
[14:43] <sujiths80> In windows vista I can see all partions..this happend after the upgrade
[14:44] <sujiths80> Sorry I am new to ubuntu so I cann't understand the terms
[14:44] <bioterror> okay
[14:44] <bioterror> let's start from the beginning
[14:44] <sujiths80> ok
[14:44] <bioterror> you have ubuntu and you have windows vista
[14:45] <bioterror> you upgraded your ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10
[14:45] <bioterror> and after that you lost your /dev/sda1 ?
[14:45] <sujiths80> yes u r  right
[14:45] <sujiths80> but I can see sda2 and sda3
[14:45] <bioterror> hmmm
[14:46] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: you've got a memo :)
[14:46] <hobgoblin> I know
[14:46] <hobgoblin> funnily enough freenode told me that
[14:47] <bioterror> sujiths80, do you mean that you cant choose on boot windows vistas?
[14:47] <bioterror> -s
[14:47] <bioterror> or you cant see even in a file manager that filesystem
[14:48] <sujiths80> no...there is no problem in booting...but I cannt see the sda1 partition in ubuntu but I can see the same in vista...
[14:48]  * AndrewMC got a notice that hobgoblin read it :)
[14:48] <sujiths80> yes u r right
[14:48] <hobgoblin> AndrewMC: freenode is on the ball then :)
[14:48] <bioterror> sujiths80, sda1 is your windows vista partition?
[14:49] <AndrewMC> hobgoblin: well its how good atheme services are ;)
[14:49] <sujiths80> yes
[14:49] <sujiths80> but all my partitions are NTFS and I can access it from ubuntu and vista
[14:50] <bioterror> sujiths80, maybe you're missing ntfs drivers. like fuse-3g or something
[14:50] <sujiths80> in that case how abt other partitions which is also NTFS ?
[14:53]  * hobgoblin butts in - if this is a wubi install and sda1 is the host drive then it will be mounted in /host(s) - if it's not wubi I'll butt out again ;)
[14:53] <bioterror> sujiths80, sorry. I'm doing things at work at the same time that I can leave for today. so I seemed to miss that point where you told us that you have other NTFS partitions which you can access
[14:53] <bioterror> sujiths80, is it wubi?
[14:55] <sujiths80> yes
[14:56] <sujiths80> I think so...but I am not remembering it correctly
[14:56] <hobgoblin> sujiths80: check /host then
[14:56] <bioterror> hobgoblin, thanks for sharing this one. I have no experience on wubi
[14:57] <hobgoblin> bioterror: I have little experience other than what the wiki says and telling people to install properly when they are sure they want to use ubuntu ;)
[14:57] <sujiths80> yes I can see that in /host
[14:57] <bioterror> :D
[14:57] <bioterror> mystical is wubi
[14:57] <sujiths80> but why it disappeared in sd1 ?
[14:58] <sujiths80> sda1 ?
[14:58] <hobgoblin> sujiths80: because it is mounted in /host
[14:58] <bioterror> sujiths80, if you say in terminal "df -h" without "", does it prompt to you that partition?-)
[14:59] <sujiths80> /dev/loop0             17G   13G  2.6G  84% /
[14:59] <sujiths80> none                  997M  300K  996M   1% /dev
[14:59] <sujiths80> none                 1002M  1.2M 1001M   1% /dev/shm
[14:59] <sujiths80> none                 1002M  304K 1002M   1% /var/run
[14:59] <sujiths80> none                 1002M     0 1002M   0% /var/lock
[14:59] <sujiths80> /dev/sda1              49G   35G   15G  71% /host
[14:59] <sujiths80> /dev/sda2              49G   47G  1.9G  97% /media/sda2
[14:59] <sujiths80> /dev/sda3              52G   38G   14G  74% /media/sda3
[14:59] <bioterror> yeah
[15:00] <Mohan_chml> !paste | sujiths80
[15:00] <ubot2> sujiths80: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:00] <sujiths80> sorry
[15:00] <bioterror> sujiths80, you could stab /etc/fstab to put that sda1 into a correct place if you want
[15:00] <Mohan_chml> sujiths80: Just keep it in mind ad use pastebin from the next time. no worries ;)
[15:00] <sujiths80> but in 10.04 I could access it from /sda1
[15:01] <sujiths80> okei sure
[15:01] <sujiths80> bioterror: can you elaborate more
[15:01] <bioterror> but problem is solved, nice
[15:01] <bioterror> I'm off to home, laters ;)
[15:02] <hobgoblin> sujiths80: not sure what it is you need? if the drive is mounted and you can access it ...
[15:02] <sujiths80> ok
[15:03] <sujiths80> hobgoblin: Earlier when I open my system ,I can see all these drives under computer
[15:04] <sujiths80> but now I cannot see this
[15:04] <hobgoblin> I think that when they are mounted they go from Computer to each mount point
[15:05] <hobgoblin> not too sure tbh - only played with wubi once
[15:05] <sujiths80> hobgoblin:I am new to ubuntu so I am not able follow all terms
[15:07] <hobgoblin> sujiths80: tbh I am not sure what you are wanting ... and I understand if you are new :)
[15:09] <sujiths80> let me make it clear...earlier in 10.04 ..I can access this drive from "Places" but now in "places" I cannot see this drive
[15:10] <AndrewMC> sujiths80: are they listed under Places> Computer?
[15:11] <sujiths80> sda2 and sda3 are listed under places>computer
[15:11] <AndrewMC> sujiths80: Opening them should mount them
[16:08] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[16:10] <Mohan_chml> Hello and wb Silver_Fox_ :)
[16:11] <Mohan_chml> Silver_Fox_: -team for a min please
[17:03] <Mohan_chml> wb mathay
[17:05] <mathay> Hey Mohan_chml
[17:05] <mathay> What's going on?
[17:06] <Mohan_chml> Just finished my dinner. and nothing much. hbu?
[17:09] <mathay> Mohan_chml: I'm doing a lab report right now. Riveting stuff.
[17:10] <Mohan_chml> ah....! cool :)
[17:41] <Guest30090> #nick Jezza
[18:01] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye.
[18:06] <johnny77> If I wanted to try out kubuntu, xubuntu or edubuntu, would it be a matter of downloading something from the repositories or more difficult?
[18:07] <aveilleux> johnny77, You can just sudo apt-get install <distro-name>-desktop
[18:07] <aveilleux> johnny77, then you'll have that system installed
[18:07] <pleia2> can install that package via the software center too
[18:07] <pleia2> just search for "kubuntu-desktop" for instance
[18:09] <pedro3005> johnny77, be aware that downloading any of these might fill your menus with other DE shit
[18:10] <pleia2> pedro3005: yikes, language :)
[18:10] <johnny77> I understand that kubuntu uses KDE, Xubunut uses Xfce and edubuntu has special educational software with it. But they all use the ubuntu kernel right?
[18:10] <pedro3005> pleia2, oh, sorry
[18:10] <pleia2> it'll install the default apps for that desktop
[18:10] <pleia2> johnny77: yep
[18:11] <johnny77> will these effect my already installed UNR or Ubuntu desktop?
[18:12] <pleia2> when installing kubuntu it might replace gdm with kdm, and your bootup splash screen
[18:12] <pleia2> but it's been a while since I've done this, so I don't know for sure
[18:12] <johnny77> gdm?
[18:12] <pleia2> the graphical login screen
[18:13] <pedro3005> pleia2, it does not, IIRC
[18:13] <pedro3005> you will still be using GDM
[18:13] <pleia2> pedro3005: does it change the default?
[18:13] <jezz_> why no tjust download the ISO, and try live CD ?
[18:13] <pleia2> I know you still *can* use it, since it's still installed
[18:13] <pedro3005> pleia2, when I did that a couple releases ago, it didn't
[18:14] <pleia2> cool
[18:14] <johnny77> No CD drive, but can I put them on a USB stick?
[18:15] <jezz_> just mount the iso
[18:15] <jezz_> you could install virtual box, and then just run it in a virtual machine
[18:16] <johnny77> Can I install KDE or Xfce with out installing the Ubuntu derivatives?
[18:16] <pleia2> yep
[18:16] <johnny77> If I do that will it then replace the gnome desktop?
[18:17] <pleia2> no, it'll add it to GDM so when you log on you can select which environment you want to use
[18:18] <johnny77> would it be better to install just the environment or the derivitive
[18:19] <pleia2> depends on what experience you want, if you just want to try out the environment that's easier
[18:19] <pleia2> if you want the full experience - KDE with all the KDE apps installed, install the full derivative
[18:24] <nothingspecial> johnny77: install kde-minimal and xfce4
[18:27] <latenite> Hi folks, What would I have to change if I wanted my "user" which is in sudo and has "ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" to execute all commands WITHOUT the need to PREFIX "sudo". so waht i want is 1st call in : http://pastie.org/1230375
[18:28] <bioterror> dont do it
[18:28] <bioterror> but you can say "sudo su"
[18:29] <bioterror> and you dont have to sudo all the time, becouse you're super user
[18:30] <johnny77> nothingspecial: searching "xfce4" in software center bring up 82 items. Which is the enviroment?
[18:32] <pedro3005> johnny77, xubuntu-desktop ?
[18:32] <latenite> bioterror, I have a script hat calls commadn like "fdisk" from someone who assumed the scriptcaller to be root. I daont want to change the script I d rather make add a user that can call fdisk right awayy
[18:33] <latenite> bioterror, but I cant "PREPEND " sudo or sudo su...to all the occurences in the script
[18:33] <bioterror> latenite, sudo passwd root
[18:33] <bioterror> give root user a password and then you can say "su" and you're a root
[18:33] <bioterror> :D
[18:34] <bioterror> latenite, I haven never actually seen any other user to have such  priviledges than root
[18:34] <bioterror> and that's how *nixes work
[18:34] <bioterror> there's lusers and there's root
[18:35] <latenite> imagine a part of my script : ssh $user@&remotebox "fdisk /dev/sda"
[18:36] <latenite> bioterror, I dont want to change the scritp to : su ssh $user@&remotebox "fdisk /dev/sda"
[18:36] <latenite> or sudo su ssh $user@&remotebox "fdisk /dev/sda"
[18:36] <johnny77> pedro3005: do you know if that will install just the environment or the whole derivative?
[18:36] <pedro3005> johnny77, whole deal
[18:36] <latenite> what I want ist the $user to be abel to run fdisk
[18:37] <latenite> WITHOUT prefising anything to the command
[18:37] <latenite> get my point?
[18:38] <bioterror> yes
[18:38] <latenite> cool
[18:38] <latenite> so is there a way to do that?
[18:38] <bioterror> but this is ubuntu-beginners and you're demanding alot tbqh
[18:38] <bioterror> I dont feel that your question is really a beginner problem ;)
[18:39] <bioterror> and I cant help you with permission to do fdisk on system without being a superuser
[18:39] <latenite> sure fine :) what ubunutchannel woule be a good place to start?
[18:41] <bioterror> latenite, maybe #ubuntu-server
[18:41] <bioterror> that's more like server kind of thingie
[18:43] <latenite> ok i ll ask over  there. thanks for your help :)
[19:07] <johnny77> If I have a program installed for ubuntu, will it work in Kubuntu and Xubuntu?
[19:09] <bioterror> johnny77, yes
[19:36] <Zombieff> Hi all, I'm trying to find any documentation on soundmenu integration for a mediaplayer. Can anyone help?
[20:06] <latenitess> Hi my internet is not working: http://pastie.org/1230626 all other machines in my network ARE online. What could be wrong here?
[20:10] <latenitess> route add default gw $IP
[20:10] <latenitess> did the trick...wh ois ubuntu not setting this up my itself?
[21:32] <anadon> hey, this working?
[21:32] <aveilleux> No
[21:32] <anadon> damn
[21:32] <anadon> Well better go
[21:32] <anadon> Wait....
[21:32] <anadon> So, a question about changing the executable bit
[21:34] <anadon> how do I turn it on?
[21:35] <aveilleux> anadon: That's an extremely vague question. Could you elaborate?
[21:36] <anadon> I've tried chmod to change the permissions/executable bit on a file so I can play fallout 3
[21:36] <anadon> it's a link to a .exe
[21:36] <anadon> Also, something is preventing me from cd-ing into my own files
[21:37] <aveilleux> anadon: Um, you can't open exe files in Ubuntu
[21:37] <aveilleux> anadon: Windows executable files are incompatible with Linux
[21:37] <anadon> WINE
[21:37] <anadon> it makes them work
[21:37] <aveilleux> y-yes
[21:37] <aveilleux> But you don't need the exe file to be executable
[21:38] <anadon> i know, but it was detail
[21:38] <paultag> :)
[21:38] <paultag> anadon, chmod +x
[21:38] <paultag> anadon, you're talking about the perm bits, yeah?
[21:38] <anadon> yup
[21:38] <paultag> anadon, yeah, you can use chmod to run the bitmask -- do you know how bitmasks work?
[21:38] <anadon> but something is going on where i can't get into the directory from the command line
[21:38] <anadon> nope
[21:39] <paultag> anadon, humm, do you have the exec bit flipped on the dir for your user?
[21:39] <paultag> c
[21:39] <paultag> Whups :)
[21:39] <anadon> I'll check
[21:39] <paultag> anadon, ls -la dir/
[21:39] <paultag> anadon, sorry, no slash on the end
[21:39] <paultag> I'd like to see who owns it and what the perms are, if you could
[21:40] <anadon> won't run
[21:40] <anadon> doesn't reconize it
[21:40] <paultag> anadon, can you use pastebin what you're doing?
[21:40] <paultag> !pastebin | anadon
[21:40] <ubot2> anadon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:41] <paultag> Just a copy paste of the terminal would be great
[21:41] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ sudo chmod /home/anadon/Fallout3.exe -rwxrwxrwx
[21:41] <anadon> [sudo] password for anadon:
[21:41] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ chmod /home/anadon/Fallout3.exe -rwxrwxrwx
[21:41] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ /home/anadon/Fallout3.exe
[21:41] <anadon> bash: /home/anadon/Fallout3.exe: Permission denied
[21:41] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ chmod --help
[21:41] <paultag> Hahaha, ahha
[21:41] <anadon> Usage: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE...
[21:41] <anadon>   or:  chmod [OPTION]... OCTAL-MODE FILE...
[21:41] <anadon>   or:  chmod [OPTION]... --reference=RFILE FILE...
[21:41] <anadon> Change the mode of each FILE to MODE.
[21:41] <anadon>   -c, --changes           like verbose but report only when a change is made
[21:41] <anadon>       --no-preserve-root  do not treat `/' specially (the default)
[21:41] <paultag> anadon, dude, pastebin!
[21:42] <anadon>       --preserve-root     fail to operate recursively on `/'
[21:42] <anadon>   -f, --silent, --quiet   suppress most error messages
[21:42] <paultag> !pastebin | anadon
[21:42] <ubot2> anadon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:42] <anadon>   -v, --verbose           output a diagnostic for every file processed
[21:42] <anadon>       --reference=RFILE   use RFILE's mode instead of MODE values
[21:42] <anadon>   -R, --recursive         change files and directories recursively
[21:42] <anadon>       --help     display this help and exit
[21:42] <paultag> spammmmmmm
[21:42] <anadon>       --version  output version information and exit
[21:42] <anadon> Each MODE is of the form `[ugoa]*([-+=]([rwxXst]*|[ugo]))+'.
[21:42] <paultag> spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[21:42] <anadon> Report chmod bugs to bug-coreutils@gnu.org
[21:42] <anadon> GNU coreutils home page: <http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/>
[21:42] <anadon> General help using GNU software: <http://www.gnu.org/gethelp/>
[21:42] <aveilleux> spaaaaaaam
[21:42] <anadon> For complete documentation, run: info coreutils 'chmod invocation'
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ cd /home/anadon/
[21:42] <AndrewMC> paultag: quiet him until the spam stops gushing out of his glient
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ chmod u+rwx fallout3
[21:42] <AndrewMC> client**
[21:42] <anadon> chmod: cannot access `fallout3': No such file or directory
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ chmod u+x Fallout3.exe
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ sudo chmod o+x Fallout3.exe
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ cd /home/
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:/home$ ch anadon/
[21:42] <anadon> ch: command not found
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:/home$ cd anadon/
[21:42] <aveilleux> paultag: /mode +q anadon
[21:42] <paultag> AndrewMC, ach, It's almost over, I think
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ sudo cd /home/anadon/
[21:42] <anadon> sudo: cd: command not found
[21:42] <anadon> anadon@anadon-laptop:~$ ls -la dir
[21:42] <anadon> ls: cannot access dir: No such file or directory
[21:42] <AndrewMC> /cs quiet #chan nick
[21:42] <paultag> sorry anadon
[21:43] <AndrewMC> just wait a few mins
[21:43] <paultag> anadon, so, you're trying to run a windows game under GNU/Linux
[21:43] <paultag> anadon, two things you've done wrong -- 1) you're using - with chmod
[21:43] <paultag> anadon, - removes the perms, + adds them
[21:43] <paultag> anadon, next, you have to run windows binaries through WINE, and not natively
[21:43] <paultag> should be all set now
[21:43] <paultag> anadon, next time, use pastebin
[21:44] <anadon> sorry
[21:44] <paultag> anadon, aveilleux was right to suggest wine :)
[21:44] <paultag> as was noted:
 anadon: Um, you can't open exe files in Ubuntu
 anadon: Windows executable files are incompatible with Linux
[21:44] <AndrewMC> paultag: you know also there is a ChanServ command for quieting /cs quiet #chan nick
[21:45] <paultag> :)
[21:45] <paultag> AndrewMC, yeah, but meh :)
[21:45] <anadon> I am trying to run them through WINE, but off a windows patron because I have a tiny SSD
[21:45] <AndrewMC> lol
[21:45] <paultag> AndrewMC, yeah, that's fine, but you can't run it like that
[21:45] <paultag> AndrewMC, chmod has no bearing on WINE, I don't think. Just do wine ./Fallout3.exe
[21:45] <paultag> sorry AndrewMC
[21:45] <paultag> anadon, ^
[21:45] <paultag> anadon, and I'm not sure it works like that
[21:45] <paultag> tbh
[21:45] <AndrewMC> people do that all the time actually :P
[21:45] <paultag> because you won't have your so s and stuff
[21:46] <paultag> anadon, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=fallout+3+ubuntu+wine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[21:46] <paultag> anadon, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14322
[21:46] <paultag> anadon, http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1145714
[21:46] <paultag> anadon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963602
[21:46] <paultag> anadon, those all look really good
[21:46] <paultag> Looks good on Lucid to me
[21:47] <paultag> anadon, you might have to similink ~/.wine/drive_c to your actual C:\. Now that I think of that, I wonder if that will work....
[21:47] <paultag> anyone here any good with Wine? Can you do that? That seems like voodoo
[21:48] <anadon> O_o
[21:48] <paultag> anadon, if that works, you could run any of your windows apps from Ubuntu, but I have a feeling there is something so wrong about that
[21:48] <anadon> similink???
[21:48] <paultag> anadon, yeah, in GNU/Linux you can make a "directory" ( really a link ) point to another directory
[21:49] <paultag> anadon, so that you can mount your windows partition as let's say /mnt/windows, and then set up /home/anadon/.wine/drive_c to be /mnt/windows
[21:49] <paultag> I have a feeling that might break, though
[21:49] <paultag> it stands for symbolic link, btw
[21:50] <anadon>  ok, well the c:/ with wine is locked, so I'll just use a different letter
[21:50] <paultag> ....
[21:50] <paultag> :)
[21:51] <anadon> does each time to drive remount it get a different ID?
[21:51] <aveilleux> Uhhh
[21:51] <aveilleux> anadon
[21:51] <anadon> yup?
[21:51] <aveilleux> That doesn't work. If WINE has the correct setup, then you can edit the drives however you want
[21:52] <Vinny_M_P> Does anyone have experience installing an HP printer through a print server?
[21:52]  * paultag goes back to work
[21:52] <paultag> Vinny_M_P, no, sorry :) stick around, someone has, I bet
[21:52] <paultag> brb for real
[21:53] <anadon> aveilleux, It's locked for me
[21:53] <anadon> looks designed that way
[21:54] <aveilleux> What is locked?
[21:54] <aveilleux> "It" is vague
[21:54] <anadon> the default file route for the "C" drive
[21:54] <aveilleux> anadon: Are you in winecfg?
[21:54] <anadon> yup
[21:55] <aveilleux> anadon: Can you describe why you think c:\ is locked?
[21:56] <anadon> options are darkened and unchangeable and un-selectable
[21:56] <aveilleux> That makes no sense.
[21:56] <anadon> want a screen shot?
[21:56] <aveilleux> why not
[21:57] <anadon> how do i send images?
[21:57] <anadon> just drag?
[21:58] <aveilleux> no
[21:58] <aveilleux> Upload it ti an image host or something
[21:58] <aveilleux> http://imgur.com/
[21:58] <aveilleux> IRC is not like other chat clients, it doesn't have built-in file transfer.
[21:59] <anadon> http://imgur.com/wYmrR.png
[22:00] <aveilleux> weird.It works for me.
[22:00] <aveilleux> Let's set that aside for now.
[22:00] <anadon> what version?
[22:01] <anadon> 1.1?
[22:01] <aveilleux> What is it that you wanted to do when you first came in here? Just run a program, right?
[22:01] <anadon> yup
[22:01] <aveilleux> 1.3.4
[22:01] <anadon> ah, dev
[22:01] <aveilleux> before, when you said you couldn't cd to the directories
[22:01] <anadon> yup
[22:02] <aveilleux> what did you mean? Like, directories that you knew existed, you just couldn't get at? Like which ones?
[22:02] <anadon> my personal flder
[22:02] <anadon> i can see it in a window, but not terminal
[22:02] <aveilleux>  /home/username?
[22:02] <aveilleux> open Terminal for me
[22:02] <aveilleux> type "cd ~" without the quotes
[22:02] <aveilleux> tell me what happens
[22:03] <anadon> nothing
[22:03] <aveilleux> That means your home directory is owned by you, that's good. What folder are you trying to cd into?
[22:04] <anadon> I didn't know my home directory was the default
[22:04] <anadon> sooooooo
[22:04] <anadon> next problem....
[22:04] <aveilleux> It doesn't matter, if you cd /anywhere and "nothing" happens, then it means the cd was successful
[22:04] <anadon> ok
[22:04] <aveilleux> You'll only get an output if there was an error
[22:04] <anadon> now, for changing that executable bit
[22:05] <aveilleux> What do you mean by "executable bit"
[22:05] <aveilleux> You mean the execute *permissions* of a file?
[22:06] <anadon> http://imgur.com/qazZD.png
[22:06] <anadon> the checkbox for execute
[22:06] <aveilleux> Yeah don't edit the permissions of that file.
[22:06] <aveilleux> It's irrelevant.
[22:06] <aveilleux> You're not executing the .exe file, you're opening it in WINE.
[22:07] <anadon> yes, i changed it so it would automatically do that
[22:07] <anadon> instead of the archive manager
[22:07] <aveilleux> where is that file located?
[22:07] <anadon> home folder
[22:08] <aveilleux> Uh,
[22:08] <anadon> /home/anadon/
[22:08] <aveilleux> with the rest of the game files?
[22:08] <aveilleux> Fallout 3 is more than one file after all :V
[22:08] <anadon> my windows patron
[22:08] <aveilleux> ...what are you talking about?
[22:08] <anadon> I dual boot
[22:09] <aveilleux>  /home/anadon/ is your home directory. It is located on your Linux partition by default.
[22:09] <anadon> yup
[22:09] <aveilleux> Since that file is in your Windows directory, that means it is NOT located in your home folder.
[22:09] <anadon> there's a link to the windows patron
[22:09] <aveilleux> Partition.
[22:09] <anadon> :/
[22:10] <aveilleux> Where is the file *actually* located?
[22:10] <aveilleux> Look under the Basic tab.
[22:10] <aveilleux> It'll tell you right there
[22:10] <anadon> /media/088A36378A36221C/Program Files (x86)/Bethesda Softworks/Fallout 3/Fallout3.exe
[22:11] <aveilleux> Okay, so cd /media/088A36378A36221C/Program\ Files \(x86\)/Bethesda\ Softworks/Fallout\ 3/
[22:11] <aveilleux> then wine Fallout3.exe
[22:11] <aveilleux> or wine start Fallout3.exe
[22:11] <anadon> can't, the parentheses mess it up
[22:11] <anadon> for CD-ing
[22:12] <aveilleux> Hence the \
[22:12] <anadon> ah
[22:19] <anadon> failed
[22:19] <anadon> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\fallout3.exe"
[22:20] <aveilleux> type pwd and paste the output here
[22:20] <aveilleux> It's only one line
[22:20] <anadon> /media/088A36378A36221C/Program Files
[22:21] <aveilleux> Whoops.
[22:21] <anadon> ?
[22:21] <aveilleux> cd ../Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Bethesda\ Softworks/Fallout\ 3/
[22:22] <aveilleux> just copy and paste that code
[22:23] <anadon> it won't copy for some reason
[22:23] <anadon> Just been doing it by hand
[22:23] <aveilleux> Are you pasting with ctrl+c?
[22:23] <aveilleux> er
[22:23] <aveilleux> ctrl+v?
[22:23] <aveilleux> Because that won't work
[22:23] <anadon> yup
[22:23] <aveilleux> You have to use shift+ctrl+v
[22:24] <anadon> Wll, terminal requires shift+ctr+v
[22:24] <anadon> yup yup yup
[22:24] <aveilleux> and right-clicking on selected text and hitting "copy" doesn't work?
[22:25] <anadon> nope
[22:25] <aveilleux> How odd.
[22:25] <aveilleux> What client are you using?
[22:25] <anadon> empathy
[22:25] <aveilleux> Eeeewwwww
[22:25] <aveilleux> eeeeewww.
[22:25] <aveilleux> ew.
[22:25] <anadon> lol
[22:25]  * aveilleux does not like any aspect of Empathy.
[22:25] <anadon> ???
[22:26] <aveilleux> I do not like that client in any way, shape or form.
[22:26] <anadon> that looks like a sign off
[22:26] <anadon> :P
[22:26] <anadon> well, suggestions?
[22:26] <aveilleux> For your current purposes, as long as you can type exactly what I give you then it's fine
[22:27] <aveilleux> But for future reference, a way better IRC client is xchat;
[22:27] <aveilleux> .
[22:29] <anadon_> y
[22:29] <anadon_> ok, got xchat
[22:30] <aveilleux> well,
[22:30] <aveilleux> okay then
[22:31] <aveilleux> anyway, are you in Program Files (x86)/ whatever whatever/Fallout 3?
[22:31] <anadon_> yup
[22:32] <anadon_> ran wine fallout3.exe
[22:32] <anadon_> failed
[22:32] <aveilleux> Define "failed"
[22:33] <anadon_> did not run; exited with errors
[22:33] <aveilleux> pastebin it
[22:33] <anadon_> rks/Fallout 3$ wine fallout3.exe
[22:33] <anadon_> err:module:import_dll Library xlive.dll (which is needed by L"H:\\Program Files (x86)\\Bethesda Softworks\\Fallout 3\\fallout3.exe") not found
[22:33] <anadon_> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"H:\\Program Files (x86)\\Bethesda Softworks\\Fallout 3\\fallout3.exe" failed, status c0000135
[22:33] <anadon_> anadon@anadon-laptop:/media/088A36378A36221C/Program Files (x86)/Bethesda Softworks/Fallout 3$
[22:33] <aveilleux> no
[22:33] <aveilleux> no
[22:33] <aveilleux> no
[22:33] <aveilleux> !pastebin | anadon_
[22:33] <ubot2> anadon_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[22:34] <anadon_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/515902/
[22:35] <anadon_> ?
[22:36] <aveilleux> anadon_: cp /media/088A36378A36221C/Windows/system32/xlive.dll ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/
[22:36] <aveilleux> anadon_: then go into winecfg and under the "libraries" tab, enter a new override for xlive.dll
[22:36] <aveilleux> anadon_: then try again
[22:39] <anadon_> the library doesn't exist, and when I put in the override it did nothing
[22:39] <aveilleux> It doesn't? That's... odd
[22:39] <anadon_> if this had been easy, I would have done it myself!
[22:40] <aveilleux> anadon_: Is it possible for you to re-install Fallout 3 into your WINE directory? Because according to its AppDB entry, installation runs fine. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14322
[22:41] <anadon_> it didn't work that way and said there were measures in place by the program to prevent wine from working which is why I tried this alternative method
[22:42] <anadon_> it's there, but doesn't even begin to start
[22:42] <aveilleux> SecuROM works fine under WINE, as long as you're using a legitimate copy of the disc. I've done it with other SecuROM games.
[22:42] <anadon_> mhm
[22:42] <anadon_> I'll try again