| nigelb | I now know that jcastro loves palentology. It didn't hit me even when he got that tattoo! | 05:30 |
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| nisshh | nigelb, was it "I <3 palentology"? :) | 05:35 |
| nigelb | nisshh: He proposed a stack exchange for it | 05:57 |
| nisshh | nigelb, ah ok | 05:57 |
| ara | good morning all! | 07:22 |
| nigelb | morning ara :) | 07:23 |
| nigelb | Had a good weekend? :) | 07:24 |
| ara | nigelb, yes, very good thanks, and you? | 07:30 |
| nigelb | ara: interesting weekend with a lot of festivities. I've consumed a lot of sugar and good food :D | 07:30 |
| dholbach | Good morning! | 08:02 |
| dpm | good morning everyone | 08:12 |
| nigelb | good morning dholbach, dpm :) | 08:18 |
| dholbach | hi nigelb, hey dpm | 08:18 |
| dholbach | hey kim0 | 08:22 |
| nigelb | morning kim0 | 08:22 |
| kim0 | dholbach: howdy! | 08:22 |
| kim0 | stupid cloud-init prevented my laptop from booting | 08:23 |
| kim0 | takes 20 minutes to timeout :) | 08:23 |
| nigelb | lol, and he's the cloud representative | 08:23 |
| kim0 | hehe :) | 08:23 |
| kim0 | o/ morning everyone | 08:23 |
| nigelb | in other good news, I now own a server on rackspace cloud | 08:24 |
| nigelb | your talk on UOW finally convinced me that I should get down to doing things :D | 08:24 |
| kim0 | oh really! hehe | 08:25 |
| kim0 | very cool | 08:25 |
| dpm | morning dholbach, nigelb, kim0 and everyone else | 08:31 |
| kim0 | dpm: hey buddy | 08:32 |
| dpm | hey ;) | 08:35 |
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| vish | dholbach¦ hi, who is incharge of sessions? like as in controlling the schedule? | 10:09 |
| dholbach | vish, all the team leads (community, server, desktop, etc.) | 10:09 |
| dholbach | vish, I think it should be enough to add a blueprint, propose it for uds-n and then make sure it gets on the system | 10:09 |
| dholbach | Daviey and jcastro should be able to confirm | 10:09 |
| vish | dholbach¦ hmm, i mean exact timings.. | 10:10 |
| vish | day and hour.. | 10:10 |
| dholbach | the team leads | 10:10 |
| dholbach | they can rearrange | 10:10 |
| dholbach | if necessary | 10:10 |
| vish | dholbach¦ cool, thx | 10:10 |
| duanedesign | morning all | 10:11 |
| vish | is it just me or does anyone else find this pic of dholbach too damn adorable! » http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/4841567839_8953f65f7a_b.jpg | 10:13 |
| vish | ;) | 10:13 |
| dholbach | that's ages ago | 10:14 |
| dholbach | AGES :) | 10:14 |
| dholbach | I was young | 10:14 |
| dholbach | innocent | 10:14 |
| vish | hehe! | 10:14 |
| nigelb | dholbach: And those were the days you had a haircut regularly | 10:15 |
| * nigelb hides | 10:15 | |
| dholbach | nigelb, right you are :-P | 10:15 |
| nigelb | drat, I wish I could let my hair grow | 10:16 |
| nigelb | I'd probably be disinherited :-P | 10:16 |
| vish | dholbach¦ the flickr avatar, who too that photo ? thats quite a good one too | 10:18 |
| vish | took* | 10:18 |
| dholbach | vish, who was it? | 10:18 |
| vish | dholbach¦ your photo! ;p with you lying down eyes closed.. | 10:19 |
| vish | your avatar in flickr | 10:19 |
| dholbach | ah, now I know - that's on picasa, but yeah :) | 10:19 |
| dholbach | thanks for the flowers :) | 10:19 |
| vish | dholbach¦ oh, you took it yourself!!! o.0 | 10:20 |
| vish | hmm, this is an old blueprint now its again for UDS-N : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-foundations-n-user-contributed-metadata-for-software-center , which track is this in? | 10:21 |
| dholbach | vish, no, my girlfriend of the time took it | 10:22 |
| vish | dholbach¦ *phew* , was wondering how you took that yourself! :) | 10:23 |
| vish | Performance has no track lead displayed here : http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/ | 10:25 |
| nigelb | vish: it has to be approved first | 10:28 |
| nigelb | oh, right | 10:29 |
| nigelb | who has to approve | 10:29 |
| vish | ;) | 10:29 |
| nigelb | arh, when I look at subscribers, I expect to see who subscribed them, like bugs | 10:29 |
| nigelb | more proof than blueprints need to be kicked out of Lp :/ | 10:30 |
| vish | gah, i cant find jcastro's video for filing the blueprints :/ | 11:18 |
| jussi | he made a video? | 11:20 |
| vish | hmm, i thought he did one for UDS-l or UDS-m ? | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | jussi: just the person | 11:21 |
| duanedesign | vish: i have seen that | 11:36 |
| duanedesign | vish: have you found it yet? | 11:36 |
| vish | duanedesign¦ nope.. :( | 11:36 |
| czajkowski | vish: check the log in locoteams | 11:37 |
| popey | http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3539348/ | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | I think I remember him saying he did it on friday there | 11:37 |
| duanedesign | vish: kk, let me look where i think it might be... | 11:37 |
| vish | omnipresent popey, thx :) | 11:38 |
| popey | np | 11:38 |
| vish | duanedesign¦ popey found it.. | 11:38 |
| vish | ha! i was searching for "How to schedule a *Blueprint*" ! | 11:40 |
| duanedesign | vish: http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3539348/ | 11:41 |
| duanedesign | ahhh, too slow :\ | 11:41 |
| duanedesign | :P | 11:41 |
| vish | duanedesign¦ thx, yea, popey is too good :) | 11:41 |
| vish | he always surprises me , in several channels he wont be in the conversation, but just drops the url ! | 11:42 |
| duanedesign | there is also- How to schedule an ad-hoc session. How to schedule a session (track leads) | 11:43 |
| vish | he is like 'the big brother' , constantly watching us! ;p | 11:43 |
| duanedesign | <.< >.> | 11:46 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: morning :) | 12:50 |
| Pendulum | hi nigelb | 12:55 |
| akgraner | Hi y'all - Happy Monday!! :-D | 14:17 |
| duanedesign | hello akgraner | 14:53 |
| akgraner | duanedesign, hey! | 14:55 |
| duanedesign | akgraner: the fact that uds is now only onw week away takes some of the sting out of the fact that its monday :) | 15:00 |
| akgraner | duanedesign, that it does... :-) and I have 3 suitcases - I am not sure that's going to go over to well when we start packing the vehicles | 15:01 |
| akgraner | drum kit or my shoes - I'm thinking I need to downsize | 15:03 |
| duanedesign | akgraner: i am trying to limit mine to the two carry ons/ | 15:03 |
| duanedesign | not easy | 15:04 |
| akgraner | duanedesign, you should get one of those Scott-e-vests it's like wearing a suitcase and you still get to carry on 2 | 15:04 |
| duanedesign | haha | 15:05 |
| akgraner | they are awesome.. | 15:05 |
| duanedesign | thats a great idea | 15:05 |
| Pendulum | akgraner: do you need to pack the shoes in a bag? you're driving, so why not just fit them around the drum kit in the car ;-) | 15:05 |
| akgraner | you should see JFo's dang his probably weight 30 lbs by the time he fills all the pockets it's crazy - in a good way - not homicidal maniac way | 15:06 |
| Pendulum | I gave up thinking I was just going to limit to carryons, especially as my medical equipment amount has gone up | 15:06 |
| akgraner | I got gifts I am bringing that's what takes up most of the room they will be empty on the way back so I can put suitcases inside of suitcases | 15:07 |
| akgraner | jcastro, are all the plenary session filled? | 15:10 |
| jcastro | yes | 15:11 |
| akgraner | k | 15:11 |
| akgraner | thanks | 15:11 |
| * AlanBell idly wonders what "JFo's dang" is | 15:11 | |
| AlanBell | oh, parse error. I get it now. | 15:12 |
| JFo | heh | 15:12 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, I left out the comma :-) | 15:12 |
| akgraner | use the Amber filter :-) | 15:12 |
| AlanBell | the comma can be useful at times! | 15:16 |
| akgraner | hehe | 15:18 |
| dholbach | JFo, you rock! | 15:47 |
| JFo | dholbach, :) thank you | 15:48 |
| nigelb | jcastro: did ya see http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/10/17/shuttleworth-admits-it.html ? | 16:18 |
| nigelb | It does a lot of quotes from the ask mark session :/ | 16:18 |
| jcastro | nigelb: brad kuhn doesn't like canonical or ubuntu? What a shock | 16:18 |
| nigelb | heh | 16:18 |
| jcastro | *shrug* | 16:18 |
| nigelb | meh, he's critizing us for like what 10 projects/ | 16:18 |
| highvoltage | ugh, I find Brad Kuhn horribly annoyint | 16:23 |
| highvoltage | *annoying | 16:23 |
| highvoltage | (and I'm sorry to say that about someone) | 16:23 |
| nigelb | highvoltage: Join the club :/ | 16:23 |
| popey | !logs | 16:24 |
| ubot2 | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 16:24 |
| Technoviking | He is what is wrong wrong wrong in open source | 16:24 |
| popey | He is a man with an opinion and a blog. | 16:24 |
| highvoltage | he *constantly* spams identica (and the groups I follow) with all kinds of negative, blown out of proportion junk | 16:24 |
| popey | There are a lot of them about. | 16:24 |
| highvoltage | opey: if only it was limited to his blog | 16:24 |
| nigelb | I find identi.ca lesser and lesser attractive. | 16:24 |
| nigelb | I now almost soley just use twitter | 16:25 |
| Technoviking | nigelb: me too | 16:25 |
| nigelb | Technoviking: I heard even sil got irritated at identi.ca | 16:25 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: that happened a while ago | 16:28 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: yeah, my vague memory is reading on popey's blog | 16:29 |
| nigelb | also, jcastro: http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/076/524/original/Haters.gif | 16:30 |
| jcastro | hah | 16:30 |
| jcastro | highvoltage: nigelb: here's how I handle people like this | 16:30 |
| jcastro | I have X amount of people who truly want to help ubuntu and open source | 16:30 |
| jcastro | I have Y amount of time | 16:30 |
| jcastro | every time we have to deal with Z people who care about neither X people don't get helped. | 16:31 |
| nigelb | jcastro: fair enough. | 16:31 |
| * nigelb posts it on his desk | 16:32 | |
| doctormo | jcastro: You mean yX=X/(Y-yZ) or some such. unless X is supposed to be defined twice. | 16:32 |
| jcastro | whatever. :) | 16:33 |
| jcastro | remember brad kuhn quit using ubuntu with a nice 50 page essay | 16:33 |
| jcastro | so really, why should I waste my time reading whatever his problem is when we have piles of people who need help?? | 16:33 |
| doctormo | Someone's job should be to distill that sort of thing anyway. | 16:34 |
| jcastro | hey Daviey | 16:47 |
| jcastro | before I go. | 16:47 |
| jcastro | what's the frequency of summit checking for blueprints | 16:47 |
| jcastro | in the past it was something like 10 minutes? | 16:47 |
| jcastro | to schedule them I mean | 16:47 |
| Technoviking | popey: know anyone on the Mactell team? | 17:00 |
| popey | nope | 17:01 |
| Daviey | hey jcastro | 17:01 |
| jcastro | hey Daviey | 17:01 |
| Daviey | jcastro: i've cron'd it for hourly | 17:01 |
| jcastro | <3 | 17:02 |
| jcastro | Daviey: iirc during actual UDS they redo it for like 5 minutes | 17:02 |
| Technoviking | popey: trying to join cause I have patched some of the matel packages for MAverick. | 17:02 |
| Daviey | jcastro: lemme time how long a suck takes | 17:02 |
| jcastro | Daviey: at UDS msm will be sitting at the desk and will be scheduling for people | 17:03 |
| Daviey | jcastro: 5 mins sounds a little extreme IMO.. but you let me know how often, and i'll do it | 17:03 |
| jcastro | Daviey: yeah it doesn't bother me how long it is, as long as people can schedule stuff at UDS and it shows up | 17:03 |
| Daviey | jcastro: I think a blog post explaining that people really should register their interest via LP and the ical feed would be useful about now :) | 17:04 |
| jcastro | what do you mean? | 17:04 |
| jcastro | via lp? | 17:04 |
| Pendulum | Daviey: do you mean by subscribing to blueprints? | 17:05 |
| Daviey | Pendulum: ack | 17:05 |
| Daviey | jcastro: theory being, it's easier to schedule if people show that they are required, or would like to attend | 17:06 |
| Daviey | naturally, they don't *need* to register - but it means they are more likely going to be able to attend things they want to | 17:06 |
| Daviey | (or needed at) | 17:06 |
| Daviey | jcastro: OK, just timed a suck and it took 2m7.097s ... this will get longer as more specs appear. | 17:07 |
| jcastro | ah | 17:07 |
| Daviey | so 5 mins, could mean there is constantly one running... 15 mins might be better. | 17:07 |
| jcastro | Daviey: ok well, I've been making sure people who are only there for a few days have registered with lp. | 17:07 |
| jcastro | Daviey: I was thinking 30 | 17:07 |
| jcastro | but whatever | 17:07 |
| Daviey | sounds good to me | 17:08 |
| Daviey | jcastro: On Monday, i'll switch it to 30 mins | 17:08 |
| Daviey | Technoviking: What does your mactel package do? :) | 17:08 |
| jcastro | Daviey: did you get my bug about the shuffling of tracks? | 17:09 |
| Daviey | jcastro: not yet read it | 17:10 |
| Daviey | jcastro: Hmm... yeah... so, admins see a warning if they are back to back in the planner | 17:11 |
| Daviey | and new sessions won't be autoscheduled next to each other | 17:11 |
| Daviey | but because the tracks weren't set when the first scheduler run was made, the other day - it didn't realise there was a problem | 17:11 |
| jcastro | Daviey: ok so I should reshuffle existing ones then? | 17:11 |
| jcastro | ok, I can fix it | 17:12 |
| jcastro | it's trivial | 17:12 |
| Daviey | there is tool that needs some work to randomise the existing ones.. but not sure it's needed at this stage, is it? | 17:12 |
| jcastro | no, it's easy for me to fix them | 17:12 |
| Daviey | groovy | 17:13 |
| jcastro | as long as from now on they don't go back to back | 17:13 |
| Technoviking | Daviey: I have built a newer version of the pommed package that work with the newer (mid-2010) unibody Macbook Pro keyboard backlight | 17:14 |
| Daviey | Technoviking: nice! /me has one :) | 17:14 |
| Technoviking | should be in my ppa in a few hours, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mike.basinger/+archive/ppa/+packages | 17:15 |
| Daviey | Technoviking: Is this 1.34? | 17:15 |
| dholbach | j | 17:15 |
| Technoviking | no 1.33 | 17:15 |
| jcastro | Daviey: I get an "oh bugger" when I try to move one | 17:15 |
| jcastro | on tuesday | 17:15 |
| Daviey | Technoviking: hmm.. Natty currently has 1.34.. couldn't you backport that one? | 17:15 |
| Daviey | jcastro: hmm, which one? | 17:15 |
| jcastro | ok on tuesday | 17:16 |
| Technoviking | Daviey: let me try | 17:16 |
| highvoltage | jcastro: yep, generally what I do to :) | 17:16 |
| jcastro | I am trying to move every other brown one out of antigua 1 | 17:16 |
| jcastro | Daviey: try to move GEIS out of a slot for example | 17:16 |
| Daviey | I just moved gestures in media players, and it worked :/ | 17:16 |
| Daviey | jcastro: what day is that on? | 17:17 |
| Daviey | oh sorry | 17:17 |
| Daviey | tuesday :) | 17:17 |
| * dholbach calls it a day | 17:18 | |
| dholbach | have a great rest of your day | 17:18 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow! :) | 17:18 |
| * dholbach hugs you all | 17:18 | |
| Daviey | dholbach: o/ | 17:18 |
| Daviey | jcastro: Ok... work around is to drag the colour, not the title | 17:18 |
| jcastro | ah ok | 17:18 |
| jcastro | good enough | 17:18 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: sent another couple 'interviews' from people who are brand new to the community. I probabally should of waited and compiled them all in one email. | 17:19 |
| jcastro | what does "error meeting not in that slot" | 17:19 |
| jcastro | duanedesign: I saw, thank you | 17:19 |
| duanedesign | okies great. | 17:19 |
| jcastro | Daviey: oh, it seems I was moving stuff around while it was rescheduling | 17:20 |
| Daviey | jcastro: ossibly | 17:21 |
| Daviey | p+ | 17:21 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: if you need any additional help with that let me know | 17:21 |
| Daviey | jcastro: I moved 2 back to back ones on tuesday to check | 17:21 |
| Daviey | jcastro: One other thing, can you check in with the IRCC folks to make sure the bot runs ok. | 17:24 |
| Daviey | and room names etc. | 17:25 |
| jcastro | jussi: ^^ | 17:25 |
| jussi | oh, yeah, room names, Ill get onto those soon | 17:25 |
| Technoviking | Daviey: 1.34 building, should work | 17:34 |
| Daviey | Technoviking: groovy | 17:34 |
| Daviey | Technoviking: looking forward to try it | 17:34 |
| * maco blinks | 18:07 | |
| maco | the expense form for uds is in excel format | 18:07 |
| JFo | there's an expense form? | 18:08 |
| nigelb | xls? | 18:08 |
| * JFo was not aware | 18:08 | |
| maco | nigelb: yes | 18:09 |
| AlanBell | maco: I commented on that last time | 18:09 |
| maco | JFo: i'm guessing canonifolk do things differently, maybe? | 18:09 |
| maco | im looking at the sponsored people email | 18:10 |
| czajkowski | yeah but OO can open .xls so whats the issue ? | 18:10 |
| nigelb | maco: I'm just glad it isn't xlsx :/ | 18:10 |
| maco | czajkowski: just surprised theyd use xls when they know its all linux folks...we can use ods | 18:10 |
| czajkowski | possibly just easier for the person doing it tbh | 18:11 |
| czajkowski | it's not really a big deal imo | 18:11 |
| czajkowski | it'd be worse to send a .ods to a person who only uses windows :) | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | well OOo works perfectly cheerfully on Windows | 18:12 |
| czajkowski | only if you have it installed | 18:12 |
| czajkowski | :) | 18:12 |
| AlanBell | yup. I think when I expressed my surprise the response was along the lines of "meh" | 18:14 |
| AlanBell | and there are some people who get sponsorship and expenses who are not Ubuntu users apparently | 18:15 |
| AlanBell | like for example the person who did that odd plenary on dynamic text changes in wiki like datasets | 18:15 |
| nigelb | that french lady | 18:16 |
| vish | maco¦ last time someone from canonical mentioned they get the perdiem beforehand | 18:16 |
| vish | while the community claim expenses later.. | 18:16 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: yeah. Never heard anything more about that, although I did have a crack at implementing it myself | 18:16 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: oh, you implemented it? Neat. | 18:16 |
| AlanBell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/hidetext.html | 18:17 |
| AlanBell | I implemented it during the session :) | 18:17 |
| AlanBell | got bored during the second half | 18:17 |
| doctormo | vish: As am employee at Canonical I claimed perdiem after, no different to the community. | 18:17 |
| dpm | yeah, we all get the perdiem after claiming it | 18:17 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: heh, but isn't slow enough? | 18:18 |
| AlanBell | there are some limitations on what can be done in HTML and jquery, spans become block elements during a hide transition | 18:18 |
| vish | doctormo¦ hmm, well, i was told that they dint claim but got the perdiem everyday.. | 18:18 |
| nigelb | Enclose it in a div and do the transition then? | 18:18 |
| vish | no its was only info i was told.. | 18:18 |
| vish | so* | 18:19 |
| AlanBell | well yes, but then it is a block, not inline | 18:19 |
| nigelb | meh | 18:19 |
| nigelb | but it would look smoother | 18:19 |
| maco | vish: maybe reference to the lack of receipt needed for per diem? | 18:20 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: well the point is to insert and remove some words from within a sentence | 18:20 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: I thought the point was to transition it slowly instead of just a diff | 18:21 |
| nigelb | (this shows how well I was listening to the session :p) | 18:21 |
| vish | maco¦ nah, not that .. it was the first day when we had gone for dinner, and we[community] were wondering about receipt but the employee mentioned he already got the perdiem :) | 18:22 |
| maco | but you dont need a receipt for dinner... | 18:22 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: have a play with it, you will see what I mean :) the toggle button at the bottom does what I wanted the top ones to do | 18:23 |
| * nigelb looks | 18:23 | |
| vish | maco¦ yea, but that aint the point.. it was that he already received the perdiem for the day.. | 18:23 |
| vish | huh! theme party! so i guess jono is batman??? | 18:47 |
| * jussi is still trying to decide what to be... | 18:50 | |
| nigelb | jussi groom :p | 18:51 |
| jussi | lol | 18:51 |
| nigelb | or dracula | 18:51 |
| jussi | no | 18:51 |
| nigelb | your wedding suit reminded me of dracula somehow | 18:51 |
| * nigelb runs | 18:51 | |
| jussi | thanks.... | 18:51 |
| jussi | quizbuntu bot sucks... :( | 18:52 |
| * nigelb will do it, soon | 18:52 | |
| hggdh | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-October/231246.html | 19:07 |
| hggdh | <sigh/> those guys are out of control | 19:08 |
| nisshh | hggdh, heh, lucky im not subscribed to that list :| | 19:10 |
| nisshh | i would get so much cruft in my inbox it's not even funny | 19:11 |
| hggdh | nisshh: I am still, but seriously considering giving up. The amount of psuedo-wittiness, and plain simple rudeness is amazing, coming in froma small group | 19:12 |
| nisshh | hggdh, yeah, sometimes i find parts of the community that are a bit like that :| | 19:13 |
| vish | hmm, how does that work actually? | 19:13 |
| nisshh | vish, how does what work? | 19:13 |
| hggdh | vish: hoe does what work? | 19:14 |
| hggdh | heh | 19:14 |
| vish | i think it copies the "******" instead of converting it as "*******" | 19:14 |
| nisshh | all i see is asterisks :) | 19:14 |
| vish | nisshh¦ i was typing asterisks... :) | 19:15 |
| hggdh | of course it will not convert to asteriscs, there is no such thing. But the poster suggests it does, so one goes and type the real password in an email... | 19:15 |
| vish | heh! :) | 19:15 |
| nisshh | vish, oh.... :) | 19:15 |
| hggdh | this is, theoretically a list for Ubuntu users -- casual users, most of the time -- to get sound technical advice. Instead, we get petty discussions and plain malicious suggestions | 19:16 |
| nisshh | yeah | 19:16 |
| nisshh | i suspect it was better when it was first around, but it seems to have slowly gotten worse | 19:16 |
| vish | hggdh¦ but did he actually type his password? i think he is either mistaken that it converts or tying to play a trick, later might be rarer ;) | 19:17 |
| vish | trying* | 19:17 |
| vish | hggdh¦ who is the moderator? | 19:19 |
| hggdh | vish: the not author is not a naïve user. I cannot see anything else but social engineering at work, disguised | 19:19 |
| hggdh | vish: I don't know. I am glad I am not -- right now I am so mad I would boot the author | 19:20 |
| vish | hehe! | 19:20 |
| * vish just imagines a member of the security seeing that ..! ;) | 19:21 | |
| vish | the team would have a heart-attack ;p | 19:21 |
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