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Chaos2358hi I was banned from ubuntu and ubuntu off topic a while ago and after conversing ikonia lifted my ban in ubuntu and told me he would lift the ban in off topic after a few days if i didnt flip out and verbally assault anyone else. i can't seem to catch ikonia online" been trying for three days" is there anyone else who can help me??01:50
=== MenZa is now known as lhavelund
ubottusoreau called the ops in #ubuntu (yo__landi)05:34
rwwIdleOne: yolandi is now echoing #ubuntu to me in PM, fyi05:37
rwwalso to gbear14275, by the look of it05:38
IdleOneok05:38
IdleOnelet me know if there are more05:38
rwwlooks like they stopped, thanks05:39
bazhanghe/she is doing that lapdance stuff again? he/she was doing that in #ubuntu before I became an op, so the "I'm new" is counter-factual06:36
Flannellapdance looks like laplace at a glance.06:55
elkyeww eww eww eww eww07:41
Flannelelky: what?07:43
elkyFlannel, creepies in -ot07:44
elky<tapper> hooray, we have an attractive channel op for a change! <ohshaith55> elky's a gal? <ohshaith55> now i'm gonna fall all over you!07:45
elkyetc07:45
elkyeww eww eww07:45
Flannelclassy.07:46
elkyYeah.07:47
ubottuDJones called the ops in #ubuntu (klasa3c2 & others)09:34
ubottuslidinghorn called the ops in #ubuntu (klasa3c2 klasa3c2__)09:34
ikonianice one jpds09:36
jpdsJust the one?09:37
ikoniayes09:37
KB1JWQIt's been a fairly quiet night, not to jinx it.09:46
KB1JWQNetwork-wide, anyway.09:46
ikonialab: hello09:48
labikonia, sup09:48
ikonialab: you've been ban forwarded to this channel as you kept changing your nickname in the #ubuntu channel09:49
ikonialab: multiple people asked you to stop and you kept doing it, so you ended up getting forwarded here09:49
labikonia, sorry i was trying to find a name not registered in freenode. i didn't realize iw as in the ubuntu channle.09:50
ikoniaok, have you found a nickname you want to use ?09:50
labikonia, yeah this one is fine for now09:50
ikoniaso if I remove the ban, you'll stop swapping nicknames in the channel ?09:51
labikonia, of course. it was a mistake.09:51
ikonialab: no problem then, the ban has been removed, you're welcome to leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu09:51
labikonia, thanks , & sorry for the trouble09:52
=== Daviey- is now known as Daviey
elkyHeads up, bacta's active.10:38
ikoniaoh good10:38
ikonianot in any channels I'm in, so good luck staff10:39
elkyso far just -nz10:39
elkyNow in #f10:40
ikoniaf# ?10:41
ikonia#f?10:41
ikoniabeing an idiot in #freenode too10:41
ikoniaahh #f10:41
elkyOh $deity. There was just a non-ironic A/S/L exchange in -nz.10:43
* elky cries.10:43
ikoniaall quiet now10:59
elkyWell of course, you've spooked him by joining there.11:00
ikoniaexcellent11:00
elkyThat was so a password, hah11:13
ikonia?11:15
elkyooaaaoo in -ot11:15
elkyb17ch35 is so a password, not kittehspamz11:15
ikoniaah11:15
ikoniastupid lie to tell11:15
elkyHe's been told to change it, and he didn't argue.11:16
jpdsI'm not arguing; I'm just stating why I'm right.11:17
elkyThough, kittehspamz is a reasonable face-saving device for wrong window passwords. Gives you a few minutes before most people will conclude ;)11:17
gnomefreakwhy was +1 closed instead of they way it was set (+m)?11:23
gnomefreakok why is +1 being forward to #u if there are 75+ people in it. shouldnt we either remove them or open the channel?12:26
gnomefreakand its muted. if we forard it than noone should be in there. please un forward it and leave it muted(makes most sense since it saves us from removeing 75 people)12:28
gnomefreakforward even12:28
Picignomefreak: We usually don't kick everyone out when we close it.12:33
gnomefreakwe shouldnt close it anyway than12:33
gnomefreaknot to mention it screws up my channel order, but why have users in there if it is being closed?12:33
gnomefreakwe had talked about this the other day, dont recall what my last6 time here was i think release day) but we decided to mute it and leave it open12:34
gnomefreakthe way it is atm is redundant12:35
* Pici sighs12:35
gnomefreakwell it is12:35
elky!tonyyarusso12:41
ubottutonyyarusso is weird.12:41
elkybuh bai to that.12:41
elky!forget tonyyarusso12:42
ubottuI'll forget that, elky12:42
PiciHow could you forget tonyyarusso?12:42
jussimeh, he wass weird anyway :P12:45
jussiå12:45
jussiwhoops...12:45
bazhangthe Hat!12:57
jpdsGandi's hosting platform going down!12:58
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (fazzil appears to be abusive - 4)13:04
elkyjpds, yeah, rebooting 6k servers, not in the slightest bit envious of that.13:06
jpdselky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU13:07
gnomefreakdoes anyone know Yawner?13:16
elkyoh my... that is... bwahahahahahahaha13:18
Picignomefreak: Any qualms about opening up +1 ?13:47
bazhang* [Vhogue] (vogue@be.very.very.very.very.very.very.very.very.very.afraid.bz): Eh?  <---shades of Gary13:56
Garybazhang: not me, but I've seen that host (or similar) before, and the user was sane13:57
bazhangGary, referring to your !factoid of yore :)13:57
GaryI know O_O  be afriad!13:58
bazhanghehe13:58
Garyor even afraid13:58
jussi!gary14:00
jussino more gary factoid...14:00
seeker!Gary-#ubuntu-offtopic14:01
Garythe factoid is no longer, long live the factoid!14:01
ikoniais my connection borked ?14:04
Picihm?14:04
ikoniamy connection appeared to go a bit funny then14:04
bazhangikonia, many happy returns14:04
ikoniaah, thank you14:05
jussiikonia: you havent parted since yesterday14:07
Garyikonia: it's your birthday?14:08
ikoniayesterday14:08
* Gary gives ikonia a belated birthday snog, with tongues14:08
Pici:O14:09
ikoniamany thanks14:09
Piciikonia: happy birthday :)14:09
ikoniataq14:09
ikoniata14:09
* Gary wonders if a belated birthday kline is appropriate?14:09
ikoniawhy not14:09
IdleOnewait14:09
bazhanghehe14:09
jussiGary: do it!14:09
IdleOnehappy birthday ikonia!!!14:10
IdleOneok go for the kline14:10
IdleOne:)14:10
ikoniaha14:10
jpds _         _               _ _               _14:10
jpds| |__   __| | __ _ _   _  (_) | _____  _ __ (_) __ _14:10
jpds| '_ \ / _` |/ _` | | | | | | |/ / _ \| '_ \| |/ _` |14:10
jpds| | | | (_| | (_| | |_| | | |   < (_) | | | | | (_| |14:10
jpds|_| |_|\__,_|\__,_|\__, | |_|_|\_\___/|_| |_|_|\__,_|14:10
jpds                   |___/14:10
ikoniaha ha14:10
Picihday?14:10
Garyshouldn't do really, we only normally attack staff on their birthdays14:10
bazhanghappyday14:10
IdleOneGary: he's going to be staff some day14:10
gnomefreakPici: what do you mean?14:12
IdleOne< happy birthday ikonia >14:13
IdleOne -----------------------14:13
IdleOne        \   ^__^14:13
IdleOne         \  (oo)\_______14:13
IdleOne            (__)\       )\/\14:13
IdleOne                ||----w |14:13
IdleOne                ||     ||14:13
gnomefreakPici: the natty repos have been open for a while now looks like shortly after release of 10.1014:13
IdleOnesince the 14th14:13
IdleOnemaybe earlier14:13
gnomefreakhappy birthday ikonia ?14:13
bazhanginvite only14:13
gnomefreakif i was only the tool chain i would agree but since new kernel and other non toolchain packages are uplloaded it should be open IMHO14:15
gnomefreaks/i/if14:15
gnomefreakit :(14:15
elkyThat should be the last of my connection fun.14:16
elkySomehow my bip config got overwritten by 1.2gb of binary nonsense.14:16
elkyGosh, have you people not learned anything about obnoxious ascii art from me?14:16
IdleOnenope :( show us again please14:16
Picignomefreak: open sesame14:17
gnomefreakthanks14:17
elkySorry, 1.8gb of nonsense.14:17
elky _________________________________________________________________________14:19
elky/  _ _ _          _   _     _         _     _ _                      ___  \14:19
elky| | (_) | _____  | |_| |__ (_)___    (_) __| | | ___  ___  _ __   __|__ \ |14:19
elky| | | | |/ / _ \ | __| '_ \| / __|   | |/ _` | |/ _ \/ _ \| '_ \ / _ \/ / |14:20
elky| | | |   <  __/ | |_| | | | \__ \_  | | (_| | |  __/ (_) | | | |  __/_|  |14:20
elky| |_|_|_|\_\___|  \__|_| |_|_|___( ) |_|\__,_|_|\___|\___/|_| |_|\___(_)  |14:20
elky\                                |/                                       /14:20
elky -------------------------------------------------------------------------14:20
elky        \   ^__^14:20
elky         \  (oo)\_______14:20
elky            (__)\       )\/\14:20
elky                ||----w |14:20
elky                ||     ||14:20
Gary\o/14:20
Piciwoo14:20
elky/exec -o figlet like this, idleone? | cowsay -n14:20
Garyspammers!14:20
IdleOneis that what it says14:20
IdleOneheh14:21
Gary /bin/sh: figlet: command not found   <--- makes me cry14:21
elkythen install it, silly boy14:21
PiciOr toilet.14:21
popey\o/ toilet14:21
elkytoilet is good too14:21
IdleOne _________________________________________________14:22
IdleOne/       _ _                                       \14:22
IdleOne|   ___| | | ___   _   ___ _ __   __ _ _ __ ___   |14:22
IdleOne|  / _ \ | |/ / | | | / __| '_ \ / _` | '_ ` _ \  |14:22
IdleOne| |  __/ |   <| |_| | \__ \ |_) | (_| | | | | | | |14:22
IdleOne|  \___|_|_|\_\\__, | |___/ .__/ \__,_|_| |_| |_| |14:22
IdleOne\              |___/      |_|                     /14:22
IdleOne -------------------------------------------------14:22
Garyikonia: I would, but your in too many support channels, and I don't wanna be told off14:22
IdleOne        \   ^__^14:22
IdleOne         \  (oo)\_______14:22
IdleOne            (__)\       )\/\14:22
IdleOne                ||----w |14:22
IdleOne                ||     ||14:22
IdleOneok enough spam for me14:22
ikonia????14:22
ikoniaoh the birthday kline, understood14:23
elkyHah14:23
Garyikonia: /akline ikonia 5 (or a suitably long time) Happy Birthday14:23
ikoniaha14:23
elkySo that's why we see staff get klined?14:23
IdleOneFor those of you who haven't seen this yet http://www.stgraber.org/2010/10/17/edubuntu-live-now-available-online14:30
highvoltagehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/moo/16:12
jussicome on peoples... this the ops channel... not ##cos16:15
jussi##cowsay16:15
jpdshighvoltage: Only from the laughing cow.16:15
highvoltagejussi: oh sorry, I thought IRC implied cows16:16
jpdsjussi: I thought this was #trollathon ?16:16
jussihighvoltage: you are fine, I was just grumbling at the massive ascii art abuse16:16
seekerInternet relay cowsay?16:20
jpdsseeker: What happened to your backtick?16:20
seekerLook at the other me16:21
seekerThis is irc via phone16:22
jussiseeker: how do we know this is you?16:22
jussi(please id)16:22
jpdsjussi: He looks over 18 to me.16:22
jussijpds: I dont even know if it is seeker16:23
Seeker`it is me16:26
seekerGood enough :P16:26
seeker?16:26
LordCowsomething i said?16:36
PiciLordCow: To what are your referring?16:36
Picier, you.16:38
ryaxnbsorry,, didnt mean to join17:22
jpds.17:22
PiciLordCow: Can we help you?17:26
LordCowerk17:56
LordCowsorry, no17:56
LordCowjust visiting17:56
jussiLordCow: may I suggest you read the topic?17:57
LordCowyou may17:57
jussi;)17:57
LordCoworite17:57
LordCowok it's been awesome, ciao17:57
macoi seem to be Personal Tech Support For Life for that person who claimed to be qwert's friend passing on an apology for hir18:33
Piciyikes.18:44
* jussi huggles maco18:45
EvilPhoenixquestion, is it against policies to help a user who wants to get any user to have the powers of the root user?18:53
IdleOnewhat is not supported is enabling the root account but all other user can have sudo privs if that is what you mean18:55
EvilPhoenixehh18:55
* EvilPhoenix reads #ubuntu-server18:56
EvilPhoenixsomeone stated their question in a manner interpreted as "how can I make every user get the same permissions as root iwthout sudo"18:56
EvilPhoenixwithout*18:56
topylithen the answer is "you can't"18:57
EvilPhoenixthat's what I thought18:57
EvilPhoenixthank you :)18:57
PiciHrm.18:57
ubottuIn ubottu, guntbert said: !webmin is <sed> / See !ebox instead.//20:59
guntbertduring the last 6 months I found no one who accepted ebox as a substitute for webmin - so I suggest omitting the pointer from the webmin factoid21:00
IdleOnenot sure I undestand how ommiting the ebox pointer would be helpful21:02
IdleOneomitting*21:02
guntbertIdleOne: in that keping it leads to a lot of questions about ebox - and not one person came and said they actually used it - so ...21:03
IdleOneusers asking about webmin need to know that it is no longer supported and offering them the "equivalent" in Ubuntu can only be helpful to them21:03
IdleOneguntbert: if they chose to not use ebox that is another story and if they insist on using webmin which is no longer supported and ask questions about it we can refer them to other channels or a forum.21:04
guntbertIdleOne: exactly, thats why I want to keep the factoid (see my edit request above) but ebox is in no way "equivalent"21:04
IdleOneyes, I see your edit but my worry is that just telling them it isn't supported any longer is not helpful.21:06
guntbertIdleOne: in my eyes ebox is a configuration monster trying to eat your system - it uses only proprietary config files and there seems to be no way back from it - whereas stopping to use webmin is easy21:06
IdleOneebox may not be equal to webmin but it is what is supported in Ubuntu21:06
guntbertIdleOne: to my knowledge ebox has gone commercial.... and I never actually saw ebox support from ubuntu anywhere21:07
IdleOneit is still in the repos21:07
guntbertIdleOne: yes, sure - but I'd rather tell people to use a text editor (and their brain :-) than ebox - believe me, I gave it a try21:09
IdleOnehehe21:09
IdleOnewell perhaps discuss it with other ops in here see what they think21:09
guntbertIdleOne: should that mean "you will"  or "I shall" ?21:10
IdleOneguntbert: you should, since you have experience using ebox21:11
macoi think it was the word "well" not the contraction "we'll"21:11
IdleOneyes, sorry I meant well and not we'll21:11
guntbertIdleOne: ok, will do :-)21:11
IdleOneI use well to much21:12
guntbertIdleOne: you wrote "well", but I was not quite certain :-) and didn't want to insist in a matter where maybe you wanted to take it21:13
IdleOneI just feel that remove the ebox pointer would make the factoid, final, in the sense " We don't support it and don't have anything else to offer".21:14
IdleOneremoving*21:14
guntbertthats exactly what is happening now (except its not "us" who took the support away), thats been an upstream decision and ahd also to do with the fact that the webmin team didn't want to work on incorporating debian configs ...21:16
guntbert*had21:16
guntbertplease be so kind and point some other ops to my edit request - I shall join tomorrow again to argue it21:18
IdleOneokie dokie.21:18
guntbertg'night and thx for your time21:19
IdleOneno problem21:19
Chaos2358ikonia here21:37
ikoniahey21:37
ikoniaChaos2358: yup, lets remove your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic21:37
Chaos2358thank you21:37
Chaos2358i do the /whois ikonia ikonia everytime i get on here and it alwasy shows you as away21:38
ikoniaI've been away for the weekend21:38
Chaos2358ahhh vacation?21:38
ikoniaChaos2358: just a few days away21:39
ikoniaChaos2358: if you try to join #ubuntu-offtopic now, I think you ban has been removed21:39
Chaos2358yes it's lifted and thank you21:39
ikoniasuper21:40
Chaos2358ok going back to ubuntu21:40
ikoniacool21:40

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