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=== mueslix is now known as muesli
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187359 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/TODO TODO++03:13
mueslihey guys, i'm getting this error, trying to run kdevelop (kubuntu-ppa packages): /usr/bin/kdevelop.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:09
muesligoogling suggests it's fixed and there's a new package out, yet my system's up-to-date07:10
apacheloggermuesli: are you on 10.10?08:12
muesliapachelogger: yeds08:13
apacheloggerhmmm08:13
apacheloggermuesli: kdevelop 4.0.80?08:21
muesliVersion: 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu2                                                                               08:21
muesliam i missing something?08:22
apachelogger:O08:22
apacheloggermuesli: that version ought to come from the official repos08:22
apachelogger!info kdevelop maverick08:22
ubottukdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 1049 kB, installed size 4180 kB08:22
muesliweird08:23
apacheloggermuesli: can you please run `apt-cache policy kdevelop` and paste the output08:23
mueslihttp://pastebin.ca/196663508:23
mueslideb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick main && deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main08:24
apacheloggerlooks like you do not have a PPA version but the maverick version08:24
mueslithe repos i use seem fine tho, right?08:25
apacheloggeryes08:25
mueslihttp://pastebin.ca/196663808:26
apachelogger!find libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.108:26
ubottuFile libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.1 found in kdevplatform-dbg, kdevplatform1-libs08:26
mueslithat's the other annoyance i experience08:26
apacheloggermuesli: is kdevplatform1-libs installed?08:26
apacheloggerohhhh08:26
apacheloggeryou seem to have a buggy scribble package too ^^08:27
muesliii  kdevplatform1-libs                              1.0.82-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1                     shared libraries for the KDevelop platform08:27
apachelogger:O08:27
apacheloggernow there is something fishy08:27
apacheloggermuesli: see, that libs package is coming from lucid, yet your kdevelop is from maverick08:28
mueslioh08:28
muesliwtf08:28
mueslii see08:28
apacheloggermuesli: try sudo apt-get install kdevplatform1-libs=1.0.2-0ubuntu208:29
muesliyeah, that'll work08:29
mueslihow can i get rid of any old lucid references?08:29
mueslisame for libsublime08:29
muesliweird08:29
muesliit's a bit weird that the lucid versions have the greater version number08:30
apacheloggerehm08:31
apacheloggermuesli: well you apparently installed them from beta-backports I suppose08:31
apacheloggeranyhow08:31
apacheloggerin /etc/apt/preferences08:32
apacheloggerPackage: *08:32
apacheloggerPin: release a=maverick08:32
apacheloggerPin-Priority: 90008:32
apacheloggerEOF08:32
apacheloggeror so I think out of the top of my head ^^08:32
muesliheh, no preferences file in there yet, i'll go ahead an create one08:32
mueslior a separate one in preferences.d08:33
apacheloggermuesli: that should pin all packages to a maverick version, running dist-upgrade after that should up-down-tograde08:33
apacheloggerso you should remove the pinning again after you ran dist-upgrade or the ugprade to 11.04 will likely fail ^^08:33
muesliok, seems those were the only two packages08:34
mueslior at least it doesn't want to update anything else08:34
mueslia clue what's wrong with the scribble package?08:35
apacheloggeryeah, whoever packaged it had no clue what he did :P08:35
apacheloggeror it is like super old08:35
muesli:)08:35
muesliheh08:35
apacheloggermuesli: is it official?08:36
apacheloggerah08:37
apacheloggermuesli: seems to be that it is incredibly old08:37
valorieapachelogger: http://goo.gl/maps/jN1K08:39
valorieif we want to go to mgmt08:39
valoriewould sort of suck to miss the pizza party though08:41
apacheloggerpizza party sounds like a perfectly boring geek thing though :P08:41
valoriewe could go to pizza for a half-hour and then take off08:42
valoriebeing late to a show is not a big deal08:42
valorieyou just miss the standing around waiting for the band to set up08:42
apachelogger^^08:42
valoriebecause they never do until they are supposed to go on!08:43
valoriedrives me nuts08:43
valorielol08:43
apacheloggerwell, I am not a very deciding person, so I live it all up to you to make one :P08:43
apacheloggers/live/leave08:43
valorielet's decide Sunday then08:43
valorieour tickets would be at will call anyway08:44
valorieok?08:44
* apachelogger only arrives at 2000 on sunday08:44
valoriemaybe more people will speak up who want to go also08:44
apacheloggeroh08:44
apacheloggergotta go08:44
apacheloggeromg08:44
=== hunger_ is now known as hunger
jussivalorie: when are you planning to go to this place?10:03
valorieMonday night is the MGMT show10:04
valoriehttp://www.thesocial.org/details/?tfly_event_id=1274510:06
=== emonkey-t is now known as emonkey
shadeslayerapachelogger: aroundz?13:37
markeydear Kubuntu folks, I've got a question13:38
shadeslayermarkey: shoot13:39
* shadeslayer runs in other direction13:39
markeyas you might have heard (or not), the Amarok project is currently having a fundraiser, "Roktober"13:39
markeyhttps://identi.ca/notice/5668882513:39
markeyoops13:39
markeywrong URL13:39
markeyhttp://amarok.kde.org/en/roktober/201013:39
markeythis ^13:39
markeyand, in these times, it is very hard to drum up donations13:39
markeyso we try to do as much PR as possible13:39
markeyis there a way that we could somehow reach Kubuntu users?13:40
markeyas Amarok is the default music player in Kubuntu...13:40
markeyI think it could be a good audience13:40
shadeslayermarkey: poke #kubuntu-offtopic perhaps? 13:40
markeyis that channel any good, or more irrelevant? I mean, all the decision makers are here13:41
markeyRiddell, etc13:41
* shadeslayer can only donate in terms of patches :(13:41
markeyno, I don't mean to drum up donations from Kubuntu devs :)13:41
persiamarkey, What kind of way would you want to reach them?13:41
markeyyou misunderstood me13:41
markeywe just want to ask if we could somehow do some PR for reaching Kubuntu users13:42
markeypersia: that's a good question13:42
markeyI'm not sure13:42
markeya small news article on kubuntu.org?13:42
markeyor something13:42
markeybrb13:42
persiaKubuntu has some promotional channels, but I suspect you'll get a lot better response to your question if you can come up with some specific things you'd like to have happen (and content for them), rather than an open-ended statement.13:43
* persia has no idea if such proposals would be accepted13:43
markeypersia: well, we've already done the usual: dot.kde.org, blogs, Identi.ca13:43
markeybut that might not reach Kubuntu users well13:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: i see no webkittyness on that link13:43
markeyit reaches devs more13:43
apacheloggershadeslayer: why would you?13:44
shadeslayerapachelogger: i said we need a webkit browser!!!13:44
shadeslayergecko is slow ...13:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: is the maemo thing gecko?13:45
shadeslayeranyways, need some help on a small isue13:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: its firefox ... "based on the mozilla platform"13:45
apacheloggermarkey: in theory, if say amarok did a release and say we were to publish packages for that release and in consequence have a news on the kubuntu.org site, it is very likely that it would mention roktober ... ;)13:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://projects.kde.org/projects/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/iconmanager.cpp#L10613:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, that is bound to change once qtwebkit is ready13:46
shadeslayerhmm13:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok in the link i pointed you, can you explain what that foo does?13:47
shadeslayerand how do i return favicons for about:13:47
apacheloggeronce I found rekonq13:48
apacheloggersince it does not popup or blink or anything13:48
markeyapachelogger: well, we have just released 2.3.213:48
markeynext release is 2.413:48
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, it provides an icon13:48
markeyplanned for Kubuntu-Next13:48
markeyearly 201113:48
markeybut that is too late for the fundraiser 13:48
apacheloggerwell, better wait for Riddell then, I would also be in favor of just putting up a news about it13:49
shadeslayeri think i need a special case for about:foo urls, but how do i set the favicon for those :S13:50
apacheloggerhardcode?13:51
shadeslayerbut ... but .. what do i return? how do i set the custom icons?13:55
apachelogger*shrug*13:56
shadeslayerit worked at some point of time13:57
apacheloggerwell yeah, see function above14:02
apacheloggersomething surely must have changed architecture wise14:02
apacheloggersheytan_: can you get me smaller versions of the start page images?14:25
=== sheytan_ is now known as sheytan
sheytanapachelogger smaller means?14:25
apacheloggerthe ones from yesterday where >3000 pixels or so ... coming to some 4 MiB14:25
sheytanyou wanted in hi dpi res ;P14:25
apacheloggeryeah, but the others where not that big :P14:26
sheytanbecause they propably were jpgs :P14:26
apacheloggerhm14:26
apacheloggerdunno14:26
apacheloggereitherway 11 MiB for a template is too large ^^14:26
apacheloggersheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/Timelord/Design/14:26
sheytanlet me make the best jpegs quality i can do ;)14:26
apacheloggersheytan: no, just use lower res png14:27
sheytanapachelogger i can't scale it now14:27
apacheloggerbut jpeg is lossy14:27
sheytanif you can, you can make it look good, too ;)14:27
apacheloggerno14:27
apacheloggerjpeg is lossy14:27
apacheloggerthat is like saying you can make an mp3 sound good :P14:28
apacheloggeryou CANNOT14:28
sheytanwell, no one notices the difference :P14:28
sheytanand well, not on a projector ;P14:28
apacheloggerwell14:28
apacheloggeropenoffice scales it anyway14:28
apachelogger...14:28
apacheloggerso14:28
sheytanand what about svg?14:29
sheytandoes ooo scales it too?14:29
apacheloggeryes14:29
sheytanor will it convert it to raster14:29
apacheloggerwell, in order to display it it will "convert" it to raster14:29
sheytanso my job is done here ;)14:30
sheytani mean, you take the jpg14:30
apacheloggerI shall not use jpg :P14:30
shadeslayerhehe14:31
sheytanbut really, no one notices it14:31
sheytaneven when someone will not look closer, you can't notice it on  the monitor ;P14:31
shadeslayerRiddell: Kubuntu Natty Kontact and Qt patch review at same time, think you can shift them around?15:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: new kdevelop goes into updates right?15:28
ulysses!find kmail.mo15:53
ubottuFile kmail.mo found in language-pack-kde-af-base, language-pack-kde-ar-base, language-pack-kde-ast-base, language-pack-kde-az-base, language-pack-kde-be-base, language-pack-kde-bg-base, language-pack-kde-bn-base, language-pack-kde-br-base, language-pack-kde-bs-base, language-pack-kde-ca-base (and 66 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kmail.mo&mode=&suite=maverick&arch=any15:53
=== Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy
ScottKshadeslayer: They can be shifted.  I wouldn't worry about it too much.  16:11
shadeslayerScottK: ok, ill upload to beta to be sure, then we can move them to updates16:12
ScottKshadeslayer: I was answering your UDS scheduling question.16:13
shadeslayeroh :P16:13
shadeslayerScottK: oh btw theres a small confusion in the mail marianna sent us .. it says the shuttle service is paid for, and then goes onto to tell us the fare16:15
ScottKIf it's not paid for, it's reimbursable.16:15
shadeslayerok16:15
ScottKshadeslayer: If you subscribe to the specs you're interested in, that will (I believe) encourage the scheduling system to spread them out.16:17
shadeslayeralready registered for both :)16:17
shadeslayerill double check16:17
shadeslayerah .. im not registered for qt one :(16:18
shadeslayerScottK: whats Gifting? :P16:32
ScottKYou're guess is as good as mine.16:33
shadeslayerso the guy who gives the session is the Engineering Director @ Canonical16:34
ScottKHe is.16:45
shadeslayerwe should do something like http://www.edubuntu.org/vmmanager16:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^ amazing stuff16:50
apacheloggersure, get a server16:51
apacheloggeralso16:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: you are hereby promoted to personal schedule assitant of phonon's lieutenant16:53
apacheloggermeaning you are in charge of making sure I am registered for sessions that I want to be registered for16:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: congrats16:53
* shadeslayer registers apachelogger for all of them16:53
shadeslayer:P16:53
shadeslayerdoes that mean youll teach me during your free hours? :P16:53
apacheloggerfree hours?16:54
apacheloggerwhat free hours now?16:54
shadeslayerlike.. when your free16:54
shadeslayerduring UDS16:55
* apachelogger needs to get a likeback release cracking, also fix0r up the pam-face-auth, also new phonon-vlc is coming up, also on the matter of phonon-vlc the graphicsitem magic still needs internals fixed up, also new release of kcm-qqt-graphicssystem is pending, also ...16:56
apacheloggerkcm-hosts is waiting too16:57
apacheloggeroh dear oh dear16:57
* apachelogger upgrades his you bun too16:57
shadeslayerto natty? 0_o16:59
apacheloggerupgrade failed, system broken17:00
apachelogger\o/17:00
* apachelogger zsyncs 17:00
apacheloggercool17:02
apacheloggerkpresenter now works more reliable with odf than ooo17:02
apacheloggersplendid17:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: beta packages?17:03
apacheloggeraye17:04
apacheloggeror maybe kpresenter just does not do otp to begin with17:04
* shadeslayer doesnt see any speedups using raster in KDE17:05
=== cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch
apacheloggertalking about speed17:07
apacheloggeris it just me or does ooo feel sluggish17:07
shadeslayeryou just noticed?17:07
shadeslayerooo is sluggish always... i just use google docs 17:07
* apachelogger uses vim17:10
apacheloggernow if ooo's KDE integration was not seriously scary I would look into this17:10
apacheloggeralso I do not really know where to look17:10
apacheloggerIIRC we have that stuff in patches *Shrug*17:10
* ScottK thought that with his godlike developer powers, apachelogger was afraid of nothing?17:12
apacheloggerI am very much afraid of scary code17:12
apacheloggerI rather enjoy a good presentation template17:13
ScottKMaybe you should de-scarify it.17:13
apacheloggerlike the new Kubuntu one ;)17:13
apacheloggerScottK: impossible, ooo's code base is scary by design17:13
apacheloggerthe folder names alone17:13
apacheloggerit remains a mystery who thought that slx and abw are good dir names17:14
ScottKRight, but we're switching to LibreOffice, so it should all be magically wonderful without Oracle's evil influence.17:14
apacheloggerah17:14
apacheloggerright17:14
apacheloggeroracle is at fault :P17:14
apacheloggeron that note, libreoffice is like openoffice with crapy logo :P17:15
ScottKI'm guessing we'll have more source and less patch, but not much else will change.17:16
apacheloggeryeah17:17
shadeslayerfregl: poke17:23
freglhi shadeslayer17:23
shadeslayerfregl: hi, could you join #rekonq?17:24
debfxaha, qtwebkit is not installable on arm because phonon ftbfs17:39
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shadeslayer:O17:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/10/19/exporting-qml-from-photoshop-and-gimp/17:56
shadeslayerthe future is now17:56
nixternalholy hell that is bad ass17:57
shadeslayeroh yeah17:57
ScottKNCommander: Could we get some help with what to do about phonon on armel?  We're sort of stuck until that's resolved.17:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: dude, I am so ahead of you :P17:59
shadeslayerheh :P17:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: the media player experiment I did some time ago with sheytan...18:00
apacheloggercreated in gimp, exported to qml, refined by me :P18:00
shadeslayerthat was all via gimp?18:00
shadeslayergreat18:00
shadeslayersee this is why you will be teaching me :P18:00
apacheloggersheytan: did you export those pngs via gimp?18:01
apacheloggercause the compression seems sort of crappy18:01
* apachelogger just turned a 4.8 MiB png into a 1.5 one18:01
shadeslayerhmm.. maybe we can write rekonq's home page in QML awesomeness18:01
apacheloggerehm18:01
apacheloggerunsuited use case?18:01
apacheloggeris unsuited even a word?18:02
apacheloggersounds kinda wrong18:02
shadeslayerwhy? :D18:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: web browser??!!?! :P18:02
sheytanapachelogger you mean the video player?18:02
nixternalthat is a word apachelogger18:02
shadeslayerso? yours is a video player18:02
apacheloggeralso, QML != stuff that does scale in size18:02
apacheloggernixternal: cool, thx18:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: but the controls are fixed18:02
apacheloggersheytan: aye18:03
nixternalat least we use it in poker, but typically use 'offsuit' instead :)18:03
sheytanapachelogger all created with gimp and exported, too18:03
apacheloggerBiometrics Model not Generated for the User.18:04
apacheloggerGiving Up Face Authentication. Try Again=(.18:04
apacheloggergoodness18:04
* sheytan thinks user account config should be more user friendly18:04
apacheloggeryou know, if that were some kind of title I would love the capitals, but oh boy18:05
apachelogger...in a message...18:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: heh, app crashes -> no konqi18:10
shadeslayerrather, no Dr. konqi18:10
apacheloggerapp crash?18:10
shadeslayeryus, like choqok or rekonq or anything18:10
apacheloggermaybe apport is on?18:11
shadeslayerno apport window as well18:11
shadeslayerbut how do i check?18:11
apachelogger/etc/default/apport18:13
shadeslayernope, disabled there as well18:13
shadeslayerpossible bug 66336718:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 663367 in kubuntu-debug-installer (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-debug-installer crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_dispatch()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66336718:14
shadeslayerwell.. no 18:14
shadeslayerthats in debug installer :/18:14
shadeslayermeh.. *shrug* .. need to sleep18:15
shadeslayercya18:15
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187519 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp (log message trimmed)18:17
CIA-116Populate PackagePrivate's Group set directly, instead of populating a temporary18:17
CIA-116set, and then iterating through each value of that set and adding it to18:17
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187521 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp comments++18:28
=== Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz
apacheloggerhello hello18:39
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187522 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) (log message trimmed)18:39
CIA-116Add a new setUndoRedoCacheSize() function to QApt::Backend. This allows18:39
CIA-116applications to customize the undo/redo stack size, allowing them to increase it18:39
apacheloggercan someone please try http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/Timelord/Design/18:39
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187525 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add a saveInstalledSelectionsList() function to QApt::Backend that exports a list of all installed packages to the given path. This list can be ready by readSelections() or by the Synaptic Package Manager.18:47
neversfeldeapachelogger: what in particular?18:50
apacheloggerevyerthing :P18:50
neversfeldeapachelogger: okular asks me for showing it in presentation mode :)18:50
apacheloggerwell, of course, it is a presentation :P18:50
neversfeldeso it works18:51
apacheloggeractually I was more thinking about testing the otp :P18:51
neversfelde1 MB :(18:51
neversfeldeok, I'll do 18:51
neversfeldeapachelogger: that's a template?18:53
apacheloggeryes18:53
* neversfelde should really not test anything without knowing what it is about :)18:53
neversfeldeapachelogger: I like it18:53
apacheloggercool18:53
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187526 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp USe a common function for writing our selection files in saveSelections and saveInstalledPackagesList, code duplication--18:54
neversfeldewell, it is decent and blue18:56
neversfeldeso it is like Kubuntu should be 18:56
neversfeldeand often is :)18:57
apacheloggersheytan: think it is ready for publish?18:57
sheytanapachelogger as a slide bg add the one with a gray footer19:03
sheytanis better imho :D19:03
sheytanbrb19:03
apacheloggerthey are all there :P19:03
claydohmarkey: Could also have some sort of announcement/post in http://kubuntuforums.netforums/index.php?board=24.0 this would reach a number of Kubuntu users19:25
* claydoh plans to get organized and timely kubuntu-related announcements into the forums this cycle.19:28
apacheloggermeh19:36
apacheloggersheytan: pingy19:36
sheytanapachelogger oh, in the pdf19:38
sheytani meant a otp with that one ;P19:38
apacheloggerthey are all in the otp19:39
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot78.png19:39
apacheloggersheytan: can you make me a banner sort of thingy for a blog post - like http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot77.png here just good looking19:40
sheytanapachelogger kpresenter shows me only the start page and one slide19:40
apachelogger940x19819:40
sheytanapachelogger sure, but blue for top and gray for fotter, right?19:40
apacheloggerclaydoh: what do you think of the text at http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot77.png ? ;)19:40
apacheloggersheytan: well, I only need a banner that is somehow related19:41
apacheloggersheytan: each blog post can have a different banner on my blog :P19:41
apacheloggerhence it makes sense to have something fancy looking at the top that is related to the what the blog post is about19:41
apacheloggersheytan: in kpresenter I think you can only switch via format -> master slide19:42
apacheloggeror some such19:42
claydohapachelogger: change "master slides. Two bla bla" to master slides: two bla bla"19:44
claydohotherwise perfection imo19:44
apacheloggersweet, thanks19:44
* claydoh regrets not continuing his learning of other languages, and is constantly amazed at how well many people do so well with their second and third languages19:48
claydohthat was a poorly written sentence lol19:48
sheytanapachelogger http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8006/headergx.png19:49
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot79.png19:52
apacheloggersplendid19:52
apacheloggersheytan: cheers19:52
sheytanapachelogger mayne put something on  the left side? lie y our logo, photo or something19:53
sheytanfeels kinda empty now19:53
apacheloggernakkid picture of claydoh?19:54
sheytanwhat of what? :D19:54
apacheloggersheytan: actually I like the minimalism there, but if you have an idea to improve it... :)19:54
claydohapachelogger: ewww scary scary idea :)19:54
apachelogger*shrug*19:55
sheytanapachelogger if you can remove the "apachelogger's log" text, i can put it on the header with good looking ubuntu font :D19:55
apacheloggerI cannot19:55
apacheloggersheytan: any other ideas?20:02
sheytanapachelogger work in progress :D20:02
apacheloggeroki20:02
* apachelogger thinks about making a slideshow20:03
sheytanapachelogger can you link your blog where you wrote about the template?20:15
apacheloggersheytan: I do not understand I am afraid20:15
sheytanapachelogger http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot79.png it's a shot of you blog. Can you link me there? :D20:16
apacheloggersheytan: http://apachelog.wordpress.com20:16
sheytanapachelogger http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/782/headervi.png20:16
sheytanapachelogger i don't see the post about the template20:17
apacheloggersheytan: because it aint not published yet20:17
sheytanooooh20:17
sheytanand how do you like the banner? :D20:17
apacheloggerlet me try it20:18
apacheloggerhttp://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/kubuntu-presentation-template/20:19
apacheloggersheytan: very nice20:19
apacheloggerI think we can leave it at that20:20
sheytanyeah :D20:20
apacheloggerhttp://kde-files.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Presentation+Template?content=13386220:24
shtylmanapachelogger: the logo in the bg behind text is not good :)20:25
apacheloggerthere is worse things I think ^^20:26
shtylmandon't want to distract people by putting clutter behind text20:26
apacheloggerlet me swap the screenie real quick20:26
shtylmanthere is.. but when you have the control.. might as well fix it :)20:26
shtylmanless = more20:26
sheytanshtylman we've got a version without the logo, too20:26
shtylmanalso.. the upper right corner20:27
shtylmanthe actual kubuntu logo fades away cause of what is behind it20:27
shtylmanthe three leading glowing balls I like.. the one in the upper corner.. dunno20:28
shtylman(btw this is all opinionated critique) ..20:28
shtylmanso feel free to ignore what you think20:28
shtylmanalso.. if you put a black glow behind the kubuntu logo text and button I think you will find it might standout a bit better20:29
shtylmanfrom the bg20:29
shtylmanbut not too much shadow20:29
sheytanyou know there isn't a perfect design that will make everyone happy ;P20:29
shtylmanjust enough to give contour20:29
shtylmansheytan: sure there is :)20:30
apacheloggeryeah orange dots :P20:30
sheytanshtylman what is it? :D20:30
apacheloggereveryone likes orange dots20:30
apacheloggerwell, except for apachelogger maybe20:31
apacheloggerbut he is a ranting old geezer anyway 20:31
sheytanorange doesn't fit well with all colors ;P20:31
shtylmanwhat orange dots?20:32
apacheloggersheytan: that is why you only use orange dots + white :P20:33
apacheloggershtylman: you bun too orange dots ;)20:33
apacheloggerI have yet to figure out why but the canonical design team is all crazy about dots20:33
shtylmanI don't really find they are all that crazy about dots20:34
apacheloggerdude, count the dots in their design papers :P20:36
shtylmanhaha20:36
shtylmanwell.. they picked a texture style20:36
shtylmanand are working on using it20:36
shtylmanone image is much better than 100's20:36
apacheloggeras I said20:36
apacheloggerorange dots :P20:36
apacheloggersheytan: thanks for your work20:38
sheytanapachelogger you're welcome ;)20:39
apacheloggerScottK: do you happen to know who is responsible for the stream setup for UDS?20:41
apacheloggerI would like to update my amarok script in somewhat timely manner20:41
ScottKapachelogger: No, but I suspect jussi knows.20:42
apacheloggerjussi: ^^^^20:42
jussiyeah, its canonical sysadmins20:42
apacheloggerjussi: how to best go about contacting?20:43
jussing and co iirc20:43
jussi#canonical-sysadmin I guess20:43
apacheloggerhttp://blip.tv/file/3680506?utm_source=player_embedded oh dear oh dear20:57
CIA-116[ubuntu] Alessandro Ghersi <alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org * alessandro-ghersi@kubuntu.org-20101019205425-9m7s33g1dq9ony8d * debian/changelog Fix changelog21:54
debfxJontheEchidna: I'm merging kdeedu right now, Debian hasn't split cros into librocslib4 and librocslib-dev22:19
debfxis it worth keeping them (there are no reverse (build-)deps)?22:20
JontheEchidnaThere's overhead either way, so we might as well keep them. They aren't too maintenance-heavy22:20
JontheEchidnaas long as they're providing a proper ABI/API (bumping .so version when necessary, etc) having a dev/lib split is technically proper22:22
RiddellI'd (almost) always favour merging packages to match what debian has22:29
debfxI have my doubts about the api compatibility22:30
debfxis the lib actually useful for other applications?22:31
Riddellif there's no rdepends it's not an issue22:32
Lex79debfx: Debian has kdeedu 4.5.1 in git?22:33
debfxyes but then dropping the package is also not an issue22:34
debfxLex79: yes22:34
Lex79debfx: follow Debian, there are no rdepends outside kdeedu22:35
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187617 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp SVN_SILENT: Boolean style tweaks22:44
CIA-116[libqapt] jmthomas * 1187630 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Wasn't really thinking when I committed this the first time around...23:08
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