=== mueslix is now known as muesli [03:13] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187359 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/TODO TODO++ [07:09] hey guys, i'm getting this error, trying to run kdevelop (kubuntu-ppa packages): /usr/bin/kdevelop.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:10] googling suggests it's fixed and there's a new package out, yet my system's up-to-date [08:12] muesli: are you on 10.10? [08:13] apachelogger: yeds [08:13] hmmm [08:21] muesli: kdevelop 4.0.80? [08:21] Version: 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu2 [08:22] am i missing something? [08:22] :O [08:22] muesli: that version ought to come from the official repos [08:22] !info kdevelop maverick [08:22] kdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.2-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 1049 kB, installed size 4180 kB [08:23] weird [08:23] muesli: can you please run `apt-cache policy kdevelop` and paste the output [08:23] http://pastebin.ca/1966635 [08:24] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick main && deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main [08:24] looks like you do not have a PPA version but the maverick version [08:25] the repos i use seem fine tho, right? [08:25] yes [08:26] http://pastebin.ca/1966638 [08:26] !find libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.1 [08:26] File libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.1 found in kdevplatform-dbg, kdevplatform1-libs [08:26] that's the other annoyance i experience [08:26] muesli: is kdevplatform1-libs installed? [08:26] ohhhh [08:27] you seem to have a buggy scribble package too ^^ [08:27] ii kdevplatform1-libs 1.0.82-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 shared libraries for the KDevelop platform [08:27] :O [08:27] now there is something fishy [08:28] muesli: see, that libs package is coming from lucid, yet your kdevelop is from maverick [08:28] oh [08:28] wtf [08:28] i see [08:29] muesli: try sudo apt-get install kdevplatform1-libs=1.0.2-0ubuntu2 [08:29] yeah, that'll work [08:29] how can i get rid of any old lucid references? [08:29] same for libsublime [08:29] weird [08:30] it's a bit weird that the lucid versions have the greater version number [08:31] ehm [08:31] muesli: well you apparently installed them from beta-backports I suppose [08:31] anyhow [08:32] in /etc/apt/preferences [08:32] Package: * [08:32] Pin: release a=maverick [08:32] Pin-Priority: 900 [08:32] EOF [08:32] or so I think out of the top of my head ^^ [08:32] heh, no preferences file in there yet, i'll go ahead an create one [08:33] or a separate one in preferences.d [08:33] muesli: that should pin all packages to a maverick version, running dist-upgrade after that should up-down-tograde [08:33] so you should remove the pinning again after you ran dist-upgrade or the ugprade to 11.04 will likely fail ^^ [08:34] ok, seems those were the only two packages [08:34] or at least it doesn't want to update anything else [08:35] a clue what's wrong with the scribble package? [08:35] yeah, whoever packaged it had no clue what he did :P [08:35] or it is like super old [08:35] :) [08:35] heh [08:36] muesli: is it official? [08:37] ah [08:37] muesli: seems to be that it is incredibly old [08:39] apachelogger: http://goo.gl/maps/jN1K [08:39] if we want to go to mgmt [08:41] would sort of suck to miss the pizza party though [08:41] pizza party sounds like a perfectly boring geek thing though :P [08:42] we could go to pizza for a half-hour and then take off [08:42] being late to a show is not a big deal [08:42] you just miss the standing around waiting for the band to set up [08:42] ^^ [08:43] because they never do until they are supposed to go on! [08:43] drives me nuts [08:43] lol [08:43] well, I am not a very deciding person, so I live it all up to you to make one :P [08:43] s/live/leave [08:43] let's decide Sunday then [08:44] our tickets would be at will call anyway [08:44] ok? [08:44] * apachelogger only arrives at 2000 on sunday [08:44] maybe more people will speak up who want to go also [08:44] oh [08:44] gotta go [08:44] omg === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:03] valorie: when are you planning to go to this place? [10:04] Monday night is the MGMT show [10:06] http://www.thesocial.org/details/?tfly_event_id=12745 === emonkey-t is now known as emonkey [13:37] apachelogger: aroundz? [13:38] dear Kubuntu folks, I've got a question [13:39] markey: shoot [13:39] * shadeslayer runs in other direction [13:39] as you might have heard (or not), the Amarok project is currently having a fundraiser, "Roktober" [13:39] https://identi.ca/notice/56688825 [13:39] oops [13:39] wrong URL [13:39] http://amarok.kde.org/en/roktober/2010 [13:39] this ^ [13:39] and, in these times, it is very hard to drum up donations [13:39] so we try to do as much PR as possible [13:40] is there a way that we could somehow reach Kubuntu users? [13:40] as Amarok is the default music player in Kubuntu... [13:40] I think it could be a good audience [13:40] markey: poke #kubuntu-offtopic perhaps? [13:41] is that channel any good, or more irrelevant? I mean, all the decision makers are here [13:41] Riddell, etc [13:41] * shadeslayer can only donate in terms of patches :( [13:41] no, I don't mean to drum up donations from Kubuntu devs :) [13:41] markey, What kind of way would you want to reach them? [13:41] you misunderstood me [13:42] we just want to ask if we could somehow do some PR for reaching Kubuntu users [13:42] persia: that's a good question [13:42] I'm not sure [13:42] a small news article on kubuntu.org? [13:42] or something [13:42] brb [13:43] Kubuntu has some promotional channels, but I suspect you'll get a lot better response to your question if you can come up with some specific things you'd like to have happen (and content for them), rather than an open-ended statement. [13:43] * persia has no idea if such proposals would be accepted [13:43] persia: well, we've already done the usual: dot.kde.org, blogs, Identi.ca [13:43] but that might not reach Kubuntu users well [13:43] apachelogger: i see no webkittyness on that link [13:43] it reaches devs more [13:44] shadeslayer: why would you? [13:44] apachelogger: i said we need a webkit browser!!! [13:44] gecko is slow ... [13:45] shadeslayer: is the maemo thing gecko? [13:45] anyways, need some help on a small isue [13:45] apachelogger: its firefox ... "based on the mozilla platform" [13:45] markey: in theory, if say amarok did a release and say we were to publish packages for that release and in consequence have a news on the kubuntu.org site, it is very likely that it would mention roktober ... ;) [13:46] apachelogger: http://projects.kde.org/projects/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/iconmanager.cpp#L106 [13:46] shadeslayer: well, that is bound to change once qtwebkit is ready [13:46] hmm [13:47] apachelogger: ok in the link i pointed you, can you explain what that foo does? [13:47] and how do i return favicons for about: [13:48] once I found rekonq [13:48] since it does not popup or blink or anything [13:48] apachelogger: well, we have just released 2.3.2 [13:48] next release is 2.4 [13:48] shadeslayer: well, it provides an icon [13:48] planned for Kubuntu-Next [13:48] early 2011 [13:48] but that is too late for the fundraiser [13:49] well, better wait for Riddell then, I would also be in favor of just putting up a news about it [13:50] i think i need a special case for about:foo urls, but how do i set the favicon for those :S [13:51] hardcode? [13:55] but ... but .. what do i return? how do i set the custom icons? [13:56] *shrug* [13:57] it worked at some point of time [14:02] well yeah, see function above [14:02] something surely must have changed architecture wise [14:25] sheytan_: can you get me smaller versions of the start page images? === sheytan_ is now known as sheytan [14:25] apachelogger smaller means? [14:25] the ones from yesterday where >3000 pixels or so ... coming to some 4 MiB [14:25] you wanted in hi dpi res ;P [14:26] yeah, but the others where not that big :P [14:26] because they propably were jpgs :P [14:26] hm [14:26] dunno [14:26] eitherway 11 MiB for a template is too large ^^ [14:26] sheytan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/Timelord/Design/ [14:26] let me make the best jpegs quality i can do ;) [14:27] sheytan: no, just use lower res png [14:27] apachelogger i can't scale it now [14:27] but jpeg is lossy [14:27] if you can, you can make it look good, too ;) [14:27] no [14:27] jpeg is lossy [14:28] that is like saying you can make an mp3 sound good :P [14:28] you CANNOT [14:28] well, no one notices the difference :P [14:28] and well, not on a projector ;P [14:28] well [14:28] openoffice scales it anyway [14:28] ... [14:28] so [14:29] and what about svg? [14:29] does ooo scales it too? [14:29] yes [14:29] or will it convert it to raster [14:29] well, in order to display it it will "convert" it to raster [14:30] so my job is done here ;) [14:30] i mean, you take the jpg [14:30] I shall not use jpg :P [14:31] hehe [14:31] but really, no one notices it [14:31] even when someone will not look closer, you can't notice it on the monitor ;P [15:02] Riddell: Kubuntu Natty Kontact and Qt patch review at same time, think you can shift them around? [15:28] apachelogger: new kdevelop goes into updates right? [15:53] !find kmail.mo [15:53] File kmail.mo found in language-pack-kde-af-base, language-pack-kde-ar-base, language-pack-kde-ast-base, language-pack-kde-az-base, language-pack-kde-be-base, language-pack-kde-bg-base, language-pack-kde-bn-base, language-pack-kde-br-base, language-pack-kde-bs-base, language-pack-kde-ca-base (and 66 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kmail.mo&mode=&suite=maverick&arch=any === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy [16:11] shadeslayer: They can be shifted. I wouldn't worry about it too much. [16:12] ScottK: ok, ill upload to beta to be sure, then we can move them to updates [16:13] shadeslayer: I was answering your UDS scheduling question. [16:13] oh :P [16:15] ScottK: oh btw theres a small confusion in the mail marianna sent us .. it says the shuttle service is paid for, and then goes onto to tell us the fare [16:15] If it's not paid for, it's reimbursable. [16:15] ok [16:17] shadeslayer: If you subscribe to the specs you're interested in, that will (I believe) encourage the scheduling system to spread them out. [16:17] already registered for both :) [16:17] ill double check [16:18] ah .. im not registered for qt one :( [16:32] ScottK: whats Gifting? :P [16:33] You're guess is as good as mine. [16:34] so the guy who gives the session is the Engineering Director @ Canonical [16:45] He is. [16:48] we should do something like http://www.edubuntu.org/vmmanager [16:50] apachelogger: ^ amazing stuff [16:51] sure, get a server [16:52] also [16:53] shadeslayer: you are hereby promoted to personal schedule assitant of phonon's lieutenant [16:53] meaning you are in charge of making sure I am registered for sessions that I want to be registered for [16:53] shadeslayer: congrats [16:53] * shadeslayer registers apachelogger for all of them [16:53] :P [16:53] does that mean youll teach me during your free hours? :P [16:54] free hours? [16:54] what free hours now? [16:54] like.. when your free [16:55] during UDS [16:56] * apachelogger needs to get a likeback release cracking, also fix0r up the pam-face-auth, also new phonon-vlc is coming up, also on the matter of phonon-vlc the graphicsitem magic still needs internals fixed up, also new release of kcm-qqt-graphicssystem is pending, also ... [16:57] kcm-hosts is waiting too [16:57] oh dear oh dear [16:57] * apachelogger upgrades his you bun too [16:59] to natty? 0_o [17:00] upgrade failed, system broken [17:00] \o/ [17:00] * apachelogger zsyncs [17:02] cool [17:02] kpresenter now works more reliable with odf than ooo [17:02] splendid [17:03] apachelogger: beta packages? [17:04] aye [17:04] or maybe kpresenter just does not do otp to begin with [17:05] * shadeslayer doesnt see any speedups using raster in KDE === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch [17:07] talking about speed [17:07] is it just me or does ooo feel sluggish [17:07] you just noticed? [17:07] ooo is sluggish always... i just use google docs [17:10] * apachelogger uses vim [17:10] now if ooo's KDE integration was not seriously scary I would look into this [17:10] also I do not really know where to look [17:10] IIRC we have that stuff in patches *Shrug* [17:12] * ScottK thought that with his godlike developer powers, apachelogger was afraid of nothing? [17:12] I am very much afraid of scary code [17:13] I rather enjoy a good presentation template [17:13] Maybe you should de-scarify it. [17:13] like the new Kubuntu one ;) [17:13] ScottK: impossible, ooo's code base is scary by design [17:13] the folder names alone [17:14] it remains a mystery who thought that slx and abw are good dir names [17:14] Right, but we're switching to LibreOffice, so it should all be magically wonderful without Oracle's evil influence. [17:14] ah [17:14] right [17:14] oracle is at fault :P [17:15] on that note, libreoffice is like openoffice with crapy logo :P [17:16] I'm guessing we'll have more source and less patch, but not much else will change. [17:17] yeah [17:23] fregl: poke [17:23] hi shadeslayer [17:24] fregl: hi, could you join #rekonq? [17:39] aha, qtwebkit is not installable on arm because phonon ftbfs === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina [17:56] :O [17:56] apachelogger: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/10/19/exporting-qml-from-photoshop-and-gimp/ [17:56] the future is now [17:57] holy hell that is bad ass [17:57] oh yeah [17:59] NCommander: Could we get some help with what to do about phonon on armel? We're sort of stuck until that's resolved. [17:59] shadeslayer: dude, I am so ahead of you :P [17:59] heh :P [18:00] shadeslayer: the media player experiment I did some time ago with sheytan... [18:00] created in gimp, exported to qml, refined by me :P [18:00] that was all via gimp? [18:00] great [18:00] see this is why you will be teaching me :P [18:01] sheytan: did you export those pngs via gimp? [18:01] cause the compression seems sort of crappy [18:01] * apachelogger just turned a 4.8 MiB png into a 1.5 one [18:01] hmm.. maybe we can write rekonq's home page in QML awesomeness [18:01] ehm [18:01] unsuited use case? [18:02] is unsuited even a word? [18:02] sounds kinda wrong [18:02] why? :D [18:02] shadeslayer: web browser??!!?! :P [18:02] apachelogger you mean the video player? [18:02] that is a word apachelogger [18:02] so? yours is a video player [18:02] also, QML != stuff that does scale in size [18:02] nixternal: cool, thx [18:02] shadeslayer: but the controls are fixed [18:03] sheytan: aye [18:03] at least we use it in poker, but typically use 'offsuit' instead :) [18:03] apachelogger all created with gimp and exported, too [18:04] Biometrics Model not Generated for the User. [18:04] Giving Up Face Authentication. Try Again=(. [18:04] goodness [18:04] * sheytan thinks user account config should be more user friendly [18:05] you know, if that were some kind of title I would love the capitals, but oh boy [18:05] ...in a message... [18:10] apachelogger: heh, app crashes -> no konqi [18:10] rather, no Dr. konqi [18:10] app crash? [18:10] yus, like choqok or rekonq or anything [18:11] maybe apport is on? [18:11] no apport window as well [18:11] but how do i check? [18:13] /etc/default/apport [18:13] nope, disabled there as well [18:14] possible bug 663367 [18:14] Launchpad bug 663367 in kubuntu-debug-installer (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-debug-installer crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_dispatch()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663367 [18:14] well.. no [18:14] thats in debug installer :/ [18:15] meh.. *shrug* .. need to sleep [18:15] cya [18:17] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187519 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp (log message trimmed) [18:17] Populate PackagePrivate's Group set directly, instead of populating a temporary [18:17] set, and then iterating through each value of that set and adding it to [18:28] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187521 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp comments++ === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [18:39] hello hello [18:39] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187522 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) (log message trimmed) [18:39] Add a new setUndoRedoCacheSize() function to QApt::Backend. This allows [18:39] applications to customize the undo/redo stack size, allowing them to increase it [18:39] can someone please try http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/Timelord/Design/ [18:47] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187525 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add a saveInstalledSelectionsList() function to QApt::Backend that exports a list of all installed packages to the given path. This list can be ready by readSelections() or by the Synaptic Package Manager. [18:50] apachelogger: what in particular? [18:50] evyerthing :P [18:50] apachelogger: okular asks me for showing it in presentation mode :) [18:50] well, of course, it is a presentation :P [18:51] so it works [18:51] actually I was more thinking about testing the otp :P [18:51] 1 MB :( [18:51] ok, I'll do [18:53] apachelogger: that's a template? [18:53] yes [18:53] * neversfelde should really not test anything without knowing what it is about :) [18:53] apachelogger: I like it [18:53] cool [18:54] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1187526 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.cpp USe a common function for writing our selection files in saveSelections and saveInstalledPackagesList, code duplication-- [18:56] well, it is decent and blue [18:56] so it is like Kubuntu should be [18:57] and often is :) [18:57] sheytan: think it is ready for publish? [19:03] apachelogger as a slide bg add the one with a gray footer [19:03] is better imho :D [19:03] brb [19:03] they are all there :P [19:25] markey: Could also have some sort of announcement/post in http://kubuntuforums.netforums/index.php?board=24.0 this would reach a number of Kubuntu users [19:28] * claydoh plans to get organized and timely kubuntu-related announcements into the forums this cycle. [19:36] meh [19:36] sheytan: pingy [19:38] apachelogger oh, in the pdf [19:38] i meant a otp with that one ;P [19:39] they are all in the otp [19:39] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot78.png [19:40] sheytan: can you make me a banner sort of thingy for a blog post - like http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot77.png here just good looking [19:40] apachelogger kpresenter shows me only the start page and one slide [19:40] 940x198 [19:40] apachelogger sure, but blue for top and gray for fotter, right? [19:40] claydoh: what do you think of the text at http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot77.png ? ;) [19:41] sheytan: well, I only need a banner that is somehow related [19:41] sheytan: each blog post can have a different banner on my blog :P [19:41] hence it makes sense to have something fancy looking at the top that is related to the what the blog post is about [19:42] sheytan: in kpresenter I think you can only switch via format -> master slide [19:42] or some such [19:44] apachelogger: change "master slides. Two bla bla" to master slides: two bla bla" [19:44] otherwise perfection imo [19:44] sweet, thanks [19:48] * claydoh regrets not continuing his learning of other languages, and is constantly amazed at how well many people do so well with their second and third languages [19:48] that was a poorly written sentence lol [19:49] apachelogger http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8006/headergx.png [19:52] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot79.png [19:52] splendid [19:52] sheytan: cheers [19:53] apachelogger mayne put something on the left side? lie y our logo, photo or something [19:53] feels kinda empty now [19:54] nakkid picture of claydoh? [19:54] what of what? :D [19:54] sheytan: actually I like the minimalism there, but if you have an idea to improve it... :) [19:54] apachelogger: ewww scary scary idea :) [19:55] *shrug* [19:55] apachelogger if you can remove the "apachelogger's log" text, i can put it on the header with good looking ubuntu font :D [19:55] I cannot [20:02] sheytan: any other ideas? [20:02] apachelogger work in progress :D [20:02] oki [20:03] * apachelogger thinks about making a slideshow [20:15] apachelogger can you link your blog where you wrote about the template? [20:15] sheytan: I do not understand I am afraid [20:16] apachelogger http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot79.png it's a shot of you blog. Can you link me there? :D [20:16] sheytan: http://apachelog.wordpress.com [20:16] apachelogger http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/782/headervi.png [20:17] apachelogger i don't see the post about the template [20:17] sheytan: because it aint not published yet [20:17] ooooh [20:17] and how do you like the banner? :D [20:18] let me try it [20:19] http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/kubuntu-presentation-template/ [20:19] sheytan: very nice [20:20] I think we can leave it at that [20:20] yeah :D [20:24] http://kde-files.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Presentation+Template?content=133862 [20:25] apachelogger: the logo in the bg behind text is not good :) [20:26] there is worse things I think ^^ [20:26] don't want to distract people by putting clutter behind text [20:26] let me swap the screenie real quick [20:26] there is.. but when you have the control.. might as well fix it :) [20:26] less = more [20:26] shtylman we've got a version without the logo, too [20:27] also.. the upper right corner [20:27] the actual kubuntu logo fades away cause of what is behind it [20:28] the three leading glowing balls I like.. the one in the upper corner.. dunno [20:28] (btw this is all opinionated critique) .. [20:28] so feel free to ignore what you think [20:29] also.. if you put a black glow behind the kubuntu logo text and button I think you will find it might standout a bit better [20:29] from the bg [20:29] but not too much shadow [20:29] you know there isn't a perfect design that will make everyone happy ;P [20:29] just enough to give contour [20:30]